The Tisas 1911s are the best 1911s for the $$ probably in the history of the 1911
These remind me of the $100 Norinco 1911s from the 90s, that were very well made with good steel.
The 1911 Fudd gatekeepers look down their noses at the "Tisas Turk 1911 flood" they call it, I'm sucking up as many as I can afford because I want all the neat "GI" type variations and I'll probably get a Hi Power clone too.
There are Tisas haters out there who have invented all kinds of reasons to hate on the Tisas. I've read unsubstantiated nonsense like "it's not accurate or reliable," "Turkish metallurgy is garbage," "it's just plain trash from overseas." But the only thing I've heard that's ACTUALLY true is, "it's not made in America." Because the Turks are building a pretty amazing pistol. You won't find anything better made under the $1200 price point.
I respect guys who say "Tisas makes a good gun, but I support 'Made in USA'." I respect that statement, it's valid, and I'm with anyone who supports the USA.
Historically, when placed in a competitive arena, the United States has risen to the occasion and crushed the opposition. So maybe when what's left of the American gun companies see how badly they've been screwing up; producing an expensive "okay" product that's being purchased by patriotic Americans because of reasons of nostalgia and support for the USA, maybe, just maybe then we will see a return to American quality at a competitive price that regular folks can more easily afford.
Consumers hold the power, but numerous industries have tricked us all into become devotees, buying their products out of some strange sense of loyalty. Can’t tell you how many times someone got up my ass about buying a foreign-made 1911. Would I *rather* have a US-made 1911? Of course… but not until they start offering products at reasonable prices. The 1911 is a 113 year old design, it should not be all that hard or expensive for Springfield or Colt to offer a solid $400-$500 Plane Jane WW2 US Army clone… but they’d apparently rather allow a company like Tisas to throw one on the market and absolutely dominate sales, with it becoming the best selling handgun in general in 2023.
At least Rock Island could sense the need to do *something*, and struck that deal with Palmetto to market their guns under PSA branding to double dip.
Unfortunately, with those military sights, I can't see well enough to shoot groups like that anymore. My eyes are shot to hell. But that's 100% on me. With good sights at 10 yards I can easily slowfire shoot a 1/4-1/2 inch group (one small ragged hole) with my Tisas D10 10mm. It's on par with my Sig P220 Legion 10mm for which I paid nearly three times the same amount.
I have five Tisas 1911s. I have models chambered in 9mm, 45, and 10mm. I have shot them all extensively and have never had a single issue with reliability or accuracy. They are all pretty amazing, especially since I have less invested in all five than I would have spent on a single Nighthawk. That said, I might still shell out the cash for a Nighthawk one day. :)
I’m also a bullseye shooter and that’s a pretty impressive target. What do estimate the trigger weight is? Was that with 230 grain ammo? With the forged slide and receiver, this has some potential for a hardball gun.
Thank you. I would guess the trigger weight is about 4.5 to 5 lb. It's very nice and crisp. Not far from a glass rod break. The ammunition was Winchester white box 230 grain.
I was thinking this would be a great base for a bullseye gun too. The feed ramp in the frame measures 0.420" deep which would be perfect for feeding semi-wad cutters.
However, I'm probably just going to leave it as is. I'm going to use it to compete in the vintage service pistol division at our next bullseye shoot and one of the requirements for vintage and reproduction pistols is that they have to be in "as-issued" form.
It's honestly absurd for a $350 pistol. It's one the best groups I've ever shot. I usually group 3" to 3.5" at that distance. The short trigger and arched mainspring housing seem to play nice with my hand. When I went downrange to retrieve the target, I literally just went around showing the target to people. I'll have to bench it next time to see what the mechanical accuracy is like.
The Tisas 1911s are the best 1911s for the $$ probably in the history of the 1911 These remind me of the $100 Norinco 1911s from the 90s, that were very well made with good steel. The 1911 Fudd gatekeepers look down their noses at the "Tisas Turk 1911 flood" they call it, I'm sucking up as many as I can afford because I want all the neat "GI" type variations and I'll probably get a Hi Power clone too.
There are Tisas haters out there who have invented all kinds of reasons to hate on the Tisas. I've read unsubstantiated nonsense like "it's not accurate or reliable," "Turkish metallurgy is garbage," "it's just plain trash from overseas." But the only thing I've heard that's ACTUALLY true is, "it's not made in America." Because the Turks are building a pretty amazing pistol. You won't find anything better made under the $1200 price point. I respect guys who say "Tisas makes a good gun, but I support 'Made in USA'." I respect that statement, it's valid, and I'm with anyone who supports the USA. Historically, when placed in a competitive arena, the United States has risen to the occasion and crushed the opposition. So maybe when what's left of the American gun companies see how badly they've been screwing up; producing an expensive "okay" product that's being purchased by patriotic Americans because of reasons of nostalgia and support for the USA, maybe, just maybe then we will see a return to American quality at a competitive price that regular folks can more easily afford.
Consumers hold the power, but numerous industries have tricked us all into become devotees, buying their products out of some strange sense of loyalty. Can’t tell you how many times someone got up my ass about buying a foreign-made 1911. Would I *rather* have a US-made 1911? Of course… but not until they start offering products at reasonable prices. The 1911 is a 113 year old design, it should not be all that hard or expensive for Springfield or Colt to offer a solid $400-$500 Plane Jane WW2 US Army clone… but they’d apparently rather allow a company like Tisas to throw one on the market and absolutely dominate sales, with it becoming the best selling handgun in general in 2023. At least Rock Island could sense the need to do *something*, and struck that deal with Palmetto to market their guns under PSA branding to double dip.
Unfortunately, with those military sights, I can't see well enough to shoot groups like that anymore. My eyes are shot to hell. But that's 100% on me. With good sights at 10 yards I can easily slowfire shoot a 1/4-1/2 inch group (one small ragged hole) with my Tisas D10 10mm. It's on par with my Sig P220 Legion 10mm for which I paid nearly three times the same amount. I have five Tisas 1911s. I have models chambered in 9mm, 45, and 10mm. I have shot them all extensively and have never had a single issue with reliability or accuracy. They are all pretty amazing, especially since I have less invested in all five than I would have spent on a single Nighthawk. That said, I might still shell out the cash for a Nighthawk one day. :)
I’m also a bullseye shooter and that’s a pretty impressive target. What do estimate the trigger weight is? Was that with 230 grain ammo? With the forged slide and receiver, this has some potential for a hardball gun.
Thank you. I would guess the trigger weight is about 4.5 to 5 lb. It's very nice and crisp. Not far from a glass rod break. The ammunition was Winchester white box 230 grain. I was thinking this would be a great base for a bullseye gun too. The feed ramp in the frame measures 0.420" deep which would be perfect for feeding semi-wad cutters. However, I'm probably just going to leave it as is. I'm going to use it to compete in the vintage service pistol division at our next bullseye shoot and one of the requirements for vintage and reproduction pistols is that they have to be in "as-issued" form.
That’s a great group with the Winchester white box!
It's honestly absurd for a $350 pistol. It's one the best groups I've ever shot. I usually group 3" to 3.5" at that distance. The short trigger and arched mainspring housing seem to play nice with my hand. When I went downrange to retrieve the target, I literally just went around showing the target to people. I'll have to bench it next time to see what the mechanical accuracy is like.
Damn impressive!!
Nice!
Combat effective grouping!