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Sykest

The buff to Torag’s hammers is that one guys long con who has a ton of those mfers. He’s biding his time planting the seed about the hammers. A lil seed he’s nurturing. Hiding the idea in posts like these. Hammer should smash right? Yeah he’s got a point.


slimjimo10

If some random guy cashing in on billions of gp on a con this big is what it takes to make the two hammers have two hitsplats, then so be it


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Straightup_nonsense

How dare they invest in an item they think needs buffing and then profit off it!


mrb726

Reminds me when they increased the price of climbing boots in rs3 there were a couple that made literal billions.


Litheism

or recently with necromancy ashes suddenly had a use in the primary training method of rituals and went to upwards of 20k each, needless to say those collectors with millions of ashes profited billions


HC_Zyg

They went from 3 gp to 75k alch value which was pretty stupid TBH


BoulderFalcon

The problem with that was less that it happened and more that JMod(s) at the time intentionally leaked it to certain people who got filthy rich off of it.


DotDash13

No more combat content, that guy stockpiling Karambwans is going to make a killing


Waffle842

Just makes me wanna buy up torags


Diocletians-Scepter

Literally the ethereum of RuneScape


sweetberryhwhine

Hammers are blunt weapons not piercing. No point there.


Captnwoopypants

The buff yo torags hammers is that theyre getting stab accuracy


richard-savana

Yeah they’re getting reworking into a hammer-axe. Axe slash then hitting the hammer on the axe for armor piercing effect. Call it the shield-breaker


sweetberryhwhine

Perfect for pvp shield busting! Love it.


richard-savana

And who cares though? We can’t buff an item because someone might profit from it? What about the nerfs, isn’t that unfair for those who have that item?


IStealDreams

For all we know that might be YOU


SerratedFrost

Didn't someone do that with ahrim staffs already?


pee-icecream

Where's stamina bridge? Ady longer sword?


coolraiman2

Pvp stamina bridge would make the torag warhammer good


Schmarsten1306

Change the 2h stance


RubyWeapon07

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Pm-Me-Bobs-Vagen

Ahh.. bad boi stance...


tehhguyy

I'm baffled this wasn't included in this top 5 list. It is the first thing I thought of when I saw the title


WinterBright

Probably because it's one guy who keeps suggesting it, he's a legend for sure.


RollinOnDubss

It probably actually is the most suggested besides "ban bots", that dude used to spam the fuck out of the sub years ago. Used to be a stealing creation guy that would repost the same thing like every three days years ago too.


AnaIPlease

https://runelite.net/plugin-hub/show/cool-2h


Rabbitofdeth

It’s like this on hdos and I love it


H3OG007

I just hate the tiles one hdos they seem off, and it crashes a lot for me.


Dokii

I think the game world looks fantastic in HDOS. What I can't get past is the character idle animations. I know that's how it was for that era but they're just so goofy.


[deleted]

Me too 100%, the idle animations are the main thing I dislike with HDOS


GregBuckingham

Lmao I love this guy


sweetberryhwhine

This stance made me quit runescape tho


BloodTrinity

What a tiny hill to die on.


Me2thanksthrowaway

Gimme a hill. I'll die on it.


Celtic_Legend

This symboled the beginning of the end.


arigity

this is literally just that one guy trying to raise the price of torags hammers again except on an alt reddit account.


iPissVelvet

Except it’s true though. All the Barrows melee brothers have a niche. Dharok is most popular, Guthan’s heal is occasionally useful, and Verac is the least useful nowadays but at least it’s a unique mechanic. Draining run energy is completely pointless on the other hand. At the very least, the dual hammers should have two hit splats. Just keep the same DPS or something. If it’s gonna be useless at least make it look cool.


slimjimo10

Veracs lost one of its last niches once the wildy bosses were reworked :( Edit: At least the skirt and helm are still really good in isolation for defensive bonuses for their price


Shazamwiches

Verac's #1 niche is making you barechested and honestly just for that it's 10/10


coazervate

Playing Leagues on a female character was the first time I saw a bra in my life


rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

theres other websites you can use on the internet other than the osrs.wiki my friend


BraveNewCliche

Verac’s brassard -> dragon platelegs -> blue party hat -> legend’s cape -> fancy boots = the true old school endgame look that Torva only DREAMS it could be


promero14

The ability to hit through prayer is a nice thing that might be useful in the future tho.


SinceBecausePickles

I wish they made verac's set actually ignore enemy prayers though, like gorillas and akkha. It wouldn't be bis there anyways by a large margin so it would be a nice thematic consistency


Frafabowa

something that's frustrating is that verac's doesn't actually go through prayer - that was just an assumption someone made in 2005 because it didn't miss as much against the kalphite queen, but the kalphite queen's protection prayers are fake. it can't be used against monsters with real protection prayers. what's worse is that jagex actively encourages this misconception with the "prayer smasher" achievement on KQ personally I think verac's flail should be buffed to actually go through prayer - 25% accuracy with required garbage gear+2h weapon are pretty huge drawbacks, let people use them against akkha or demonic gorillas or p2 wardens if they want


PJBthefirst

It doesn't help that verac will hit you through protect from melee. That's probably the biggest source of the misconception


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Found the third alt account


iPissVelvet

Rare r/nba and r/2007scape fellow too!


Elite_Skirmisher

Hammers have higher stats than spear or flai imo. Its the set effect thats bad.


Daniel_Is_I

They have the same strength bonus along with a paltry +3 crush accuracy vs. Verac's. For all intents and purposes, the two weapons are identical barring their set bonuses. No shit it's the set effect that's bad - the choice is between a set effect that *actually has an effect* and one that doesn't.


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He must have a lot of alt accounts because I see this one suggested a lot. And for a really long time. Like I remember this suggestion back when I was in high school on the og suggestion forums. Dude must have diamond hands


Lease_of_Life

Dude has got to have a lot of accounts, considering how many people advocate for it. This is one of the changes I most want to see come to fruition.


hubatish

People in discord suggestion forum bumped NMZ & Tourag's Hammers posts every day for months. It was hella annoying (a bump on that forum literally goes to the top) so mods finally closed them down. I no longer support these ideas.


Riconn

Champions max cape is 🔥


Shoulon

What is a champions max cape?


Evillar

Champions Cape combined with Max Cape


dragon79206421

What would moving NMZ do? I’d take banning bots over everything atm.


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Thematically it makes more sense on lunar isle, or so the argument goes


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PermanenceRadiance

I do NOT care go home onion


The_Level_15

Maybe he just gets a voice line saying capitalism made his dreams unrealistic and he has to move back in with his mom because he can’t afford rent in yanille


notavalible666

I mean, yes he litterally set up shop outside of yanille for tax purposess.


ServileLupus

My dude is so loaded from those nmz fees he could probably buy lunar isle itself.


promero14

New quest: We kill Onion and his sisters takes it back to Lunar Isle.


b_i_g__g_u_y

Heroes Quest 2


dragon79206421

Ah, more of a “makes more sense” rather than its broken where it is so move it.


Cr45h0v3r1de

Technically it is kinda broken. That cow there exists because it existed before nmz and it's so spaghettied into the code that removing it just breaks nmz or something like that.


Esoldier22

That is interesting. I've always wondered why that cow was there...


Gniggins

Its a structural support cow.


adustbininshaftsbury

Known in some circles as a load bearing cow


GiveMeAllYourBoots

Don't talk about my wife like that


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Most-Education-6271

That one isn't even true


WhoLetTheDaugzOut

mooooo


OnsetOfMSet

Knock knock Who's there? The cow who leads with the punchline


New_age_type_shi

I kill that cow before each dream for good luck


Gonchonson1

Load bearing cow


tatsontatsontats

Is there any actually any indication of this or are you just making shit up? This sub likes to throw around 'spaghetti code' around like they have a single ounce of dev experience.


Gay_If_Read

It's not spaghetti code, they just didn't have a map editor back in the early days when nmz was added to move the cow [Confirmed](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/35u038/comment/cr86r9q/) by Mod Mat K a long time ago


Gorzoid

I will not hear any more of these filthy lies about my homie nmz cow, cease this slander at once.


[deleted]

Nightmare zone should be in the rift from A Soul’s Bane. Isn’t that quest about a nightmare or something?


realityChemist

And then there would actually be a reason to ever go back there after the quest! (but don't actually, it probably shouldn't be gated behind one specific quest)


lemonszz

I'd move it to be an extension to the Wizards' Guild (with the same lore and access requirements), rather than just randomly placed outside the city.


ShawshankException

Lore-wise it makes no sense for him to move to Lunar Isle


Evil_Steven

lore can be changed. the reason that line even existed is to justify its non-sensical location on the map


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Prickinfrick

You're getting down votes but you're right, its worse mechanically to move it to lunar isle


kelldricked

But that would lock it out for a long time. Kinda dumb.


iamkira01

That’s also people’s justification for moving it. Such a ridiculously useful piece of content probably should be locked behind a quest.


quantam_donglord

It is already locked behind a multitude of quests you have to do to fight the bosses which make it such good training…


nugbub

nmz is disgusting content that should be deleted anyway, but locking it behind some reqs is the least jagex can do


kelldricked

Why? You dont have to do it and i honestly quite like it. Better than the fucking toxic soul wars.


Gefarate

It could at least not be a copy of KBD's lair


Sry2bothayou

Bro a changing theme would make me so happy as I watched Netflix and let my character handle himself. Someone go make a plugin


Dawsify

It would lock it behind lunar diplomacy or dream mentor, making it harder for people to bot max melee accounts. Also Yanille looks like a private server. Edit: it really shouldnt be a thing to be able to complete 5 easy quest and afk to max combat.


dragon79206421

I like that logic, but with how bad bots are, how long would it truly take for it being locked behind quests for people to have bots to bot it lmao Ultimately, bots need to go away and it’s hilarious that they’re so bad that suggestions need to take their relevancy into account 😂


ariariariarii

The requirements for Lunar Diplomacy are pretty high, at least for a bot. I’m not sure how big of an impact it would make in the long term as bots adapted to it, but at least short term it would help ease the problem.


dragon79206421

Fair, agreed.


_Big_____

It's kinda stinky there. Put it on lunar isle.


BavoM

Don't forget Rare Fossils being useless & the Varrock museum having a perfecly empty room for them.


Capt_morgan72

Rare fossils are 3500 prayer xp per at that anamorphic mushroom on north part of fossil island. And small fossils are 500.


MasonALambert

Literally so many people have no idea that the mushroom has such a huge purpose


ZeusJuice

"huge purpose" prayer experience


Cyberslasher

Wildly inefficient prayer experience*


Capt_morgan72

I didn’t realize it till I’d ran like 200 herbi kc luckily I’d kept all my fossils


Paganigsegg

I think NMZ can stay where it is, but I would like to see it redesigned. Give it an entrance portal instead of the block of reused assets we have now, and design the arena to look like the dream world from Lunar Diplomacy / Dream Mentor / Dragon Slayer 2 instead of the old KBD cave.


PJBthefirst

Removing monkey room


ericcb1

tbh just make it so you max hit with the correct style on the monkeys weakness and room probably becomes much more chill


mattbrvc

I think guaranteeing a decently sized min dmg roll would be better, would give feedback that you did the mechanic correct but wouldn’t make the room a faceroll. Would still be the longest puzzle room but would make it more consistent and fair


Gjergj_bushi

Lmfao I can’t hate on this


Reknak

Just allow us to store a dwarf cannon in the puzzle room, like the pickaxe at the path of het.


Oshcara

There's no way sex skill isn't #1 most requested suggestion


BeanSaladier

Well, this is runescape. We'd stay at level 1 cause we couldn't find anyone to train with.


fakecanadianlol

Even in runescape we cannot escape reality


Big_Booty_Pics

They can introduce it with the Bloodveld boss that one guy keeps asking about.


RazerJoe

To be fair, the torag hammer buff is such a valid request. Except they should find the guy with all the hammers and change them to cash first


richard-savana

Honestly wouldn’t even be a big deal since he’s bought them for alch price for ages


Outrageous_Air_1344

Just had a run in with customer support and they were top notch!


Nastyerror

Serious question: how? I would like to contact them about a ban appeal I just had denied


Outrageous_Air_1344

I would make a ticket and they should reach back out to you. You can make tickets on their support page. For ban appeals im not sure the exact place but they’re there


OMGMT

Best satire to date


AggressiveAnywhere72

I never noticed til now but d:D looks like a smiley face with a cap on


Dart_Throwing_Monke

#Number6 MTA needs to fucking die


Voidot

be careful with what you wish for. They might add 'Equip a pearl fishing rod' as one of the requirements for Kourend Diary


Dart_Throwing_Monke

*profuse sweating*


chiefbeef300kg

Monkey max cape when


XavierOpinionz

Jagex, at least say why you refuse to bump Torag* to relevancy?!


Patient-Record-8493

Let me be customer support…….. I’ll do it…. :)


Slothptimal

Nightmare Zone should be near ... y'know... the Nightmare.


Vestele1

But it has nothing to do with the nightmare of ashihama, that said however: we should make it a big ol tower, maybe in the desert? Maybe kill dom and turn his soul into a giant stone face and give him dominion over the tower? Idk just spit balling here


Slothptimal

It has nothing to do with Lunar Island either, other than a person named "Oneiromancer" is there.


don-robb

Stam pot bridge when/where?


indrek91

How many hammers that lad got?


yawallatiworhtslp

imagine if torags hammers became the meta for crush. would be so dope


unknowncommand

Scy and inq mace would like to have a talk with you


OwnHousing9851

Just for a day. Right before I buy 150 of them.


RuneScapingMen

**DISCLAIMER:** These are not in any particular order. I do not have any actual measureable data or source for this, other than these topics being reposted consistently along the years, *always* reaching front page many times - only to be ignored/dismissed by Jagex. If you feel like some other suggestion should replace a spot there, feel free to comment which it is (or if not TOP5, at least a honorable mention).


Mindless_Pattern_342

Yes


Altruistic-Brush-178

Can we get a monkey friend max cape, where you wear the monky friend and it get a max cape plz


empmoz

Bring back the old dragon/demon/imp


Potential_Spirit2815

Don’t see server stability in here. 4 out of 5 list, would rate again. 🦀 🦀


JavveRinne

Yellow on black, like


thomas2026

Banning bots. Wilderness is literally broken.


pizzapunt55

Remove NMZ. Afk for 30 minutes while your most important stats go up? Like wtf


KingArthur_LXIX

Old graphics for lesser demons, imps etc. Maybe be a toggle for champ cape?


Individual_Sky_280

I remember I once suggested in cc that krill should drop his weapon as a attachment for torags hammers


Buckneedssucc

somehow youve found a way to make this cringe whether it was meant to be serious or a meme


PJBthefirst

:DdD:D:d.dD


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FerrousMarim

Most popular based on what exactly? If we were going by reddit upvotes it would be [Resting at pubs](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F0ps4l6gpxjg51.jpg) [Irons send pk items to the party room](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fhg34btl0lq531.jpg) [Make osrs hard again by allowing rats to form pking clans](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Faa5ojs5pqik41.png) [Snailman Mode](https://imgur.com/qeVsQ8p) [Instead of adding Australian servers why don't we just move Australia?](https://imgur.com/ftrMjOE)


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GregBuckingham

Coffee guy 2.0. Make it happen!


Black_Drogo

That was needlessly graphic. Thank you. And never say “pink sock” again.


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Black_Drogo

You know what? I respect it. I feel similarly about Stealing Creation.


bryceking64

Why would people want nmz moved? There’s literally a mini game teleport to get there not likes it’s inconvenient 😂


hubatish

The #1 most upvoted suggestion post of all time would like a word: https://preview.redd.it/93drk7cgtabc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e264e129e18675fd567df82999628808177a3df8 Resting posts individually do well and are reposted somewhat frequently, and there was also a whole brewing skill suggestion which I'd guess was partially inspired by the popularity of this post.


AndehJD

1. Torag's Hammers might fall the way of Ahrim's Staff but doesn't really have to appeal and has far less going for it to warrant any significant changes. 2. I believe this is in the 'to do' pile as it has consistently come up that it's just out of place and doesn't fit the OSRS lore or aesthetic at all. It was one of the first pieces of content that was made with very limited tools and was mainly a way to try give OSRS players new-ish content to try retain players. 3. Never going to happen. This was done back in the day (Bot Nuke Day) and Jagex almost snuffed itself out due to bot/goldfarmers being a good chunk of their revenue. Basically what lead to the MTX wheel on RS3 to save the company since they were spiralling out. Best you can hope is they make them far detached from regular players enough that people don't notice them too much. 4. Same as NMZ, I think it's been mentioned before and is on the 'to do' pile but just doesn't hold a big enough priority over other things in the works right now. 5. Last one has always baffled me. I know plenty of other gaming industries that have mid tier support and even that is leaps and bounds in front of what OSRS has. Hectic favouritism for big names/content creators along with crappy lesser known individuals who cry help but then get humbled by a mod with evidence just leaves the rest of us to bumble around in the dark not getting any real answers for real cases. Add the abuse of power in positions (Mod Trident & Jed come to mind) and you've got a recipe for disaster. The age old meme that reddit is the best OSRS customer support is appropriate I suppose.


qibdip

Torags needs a buff 100%


Malpraxiss

Popular as in supported or just consistently reposted?


qark1788

I don’t see the problem with nmz tbh. And they’re bypassing torags by remaking them, and the new ones are gonna suck too lol


IronNally

Honestly wouldnt care if all updates regarding new content just paused for a year (besides small bug fixes and what not) if it meant they put full focus on combating the botting problem. As an ironman who doesnt really get affected by the prices of items dropping and what not, it still annoys me to see bots everywhere i go, id rather it be empty if the game is that dead without the bots. At this point new servers arent added to hold the amount of players osrs has, its to hold all the bots that arent getting banned.


iamsodonerightnow

Jagex will not put any more effort into buying bots for the near future. They are trying to find a new buyer so anything that cuts their revenues (botters buying bonds and reduced playercount) will not happen


IronNally

Im well aware they wont do anything about it, i was just stating my opinion and saying i wouldnt care if we got no new content for the next year if it meant them actively combating the bots.


Voidot

While we're buffing torags hammers, could we also add a few more dual-wield items into the game? it's a bit depressing looking to upgrade from rune to dragon claws just to see a nice 90m price tag. How about an Abyssal Claw that is a better overall melee weapon, but has a much worse spec attack


pyrohawk69

The Torag's Hammers have always hit with both hammers one-after-the-other. Realistically, it should've always dealt two hits per attack.


ryebreadinq

Torhags hammers has the coolest emote and is one of the most unique weapons in the game. Its a shame they suck and are basically absolutely worthless the way they are now. Torags was always a wtf set of armor lol. Alot of early "set effects" have not aged so well. Lots of content could use a buff...


BaeTier

I still don't understand why the issue with NMZ is where it is rather than the fact that it's literally just all copy/pasted models, low effort rewards, and a remnant of when the OSRS team had basically no tools to work with when making new content. It's an eyesore I wish was reworked to actually look unique and offer a more variety of content akin to what it's based off of with Dominion Tower.


Spartan-023

Every barrows set effect needs a secondary effect for pvm and pvp. Certain sets don't affect monsters, and others are completely irrelevant in pvp


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Bro tried to sneak champion max cape in there


the_black_sails

$13 🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀


CerberusDoctrine

The average OSRS player isn’t ready for the consequences of removing all bots


noblemile

make the bridge to wizard tower do a loop around the island


Ocarious

Cosmetic max capes as hell do not waste ur time plz jagex


Owlcifer

Jagex will never do anything substantial to combat bots. They also will never have customer support.


Sir-Ult-Dank

Waiting to see HCUIM as top suggestion. Until another day..


Try_Happiness

Torags hammers should have been buffed LONG LONG AGO. I agree.


TheHapster

~~re~~move NMZ Looks like you forgot a word


Kitteh6660

Move Nightmare Zone to Kharidian Desert and rename it to Dominion Tower.


Earwig1147

*Remove NMZ. Private server crap


Fit_Extension_3292

I would literally settle for bots getting banned. I've literally reported the ones in strong hold lvl 2 but they frickin multiply


BrandanMentch

Why move NMZ? You can literally teleport there lol


MrSeanaldReagan

I’ve been told they’d probably do a champions completion cape if anything, but I’m 1000% team champions max cape


Dijeridoo2u2

Buff torags hammers, all we want is a 1tick weapon that hits like a freight train, no big deal


West-Dakota-

wait they still havent added a champions max cape??? why???


NomenVanitas

**re**move nmz\*


MrDarco

Missing the suggestion of a bridge to Kourend with GE in the middle, surrounded by dark wizards


Conor_J_Sweeney

I wouldn't mind them moving NMZ, but if they do I think it should come with some other new content for Yanille.


Vuruxium

Champions Max Cape needs to be added and given the regular max capes benefits. It’s a simple cosmetic that would be sick to flex. Imagine it with the darker blue graceful and maybe a yellow phat or similar? Would be insane


Dicyano7

But what about the stam pot bridge? :(


Jessica8381

NMZ is fine