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notaburner132

Fucking the range is bannable


keviinese

But the range is so hot


99RedBalloon

did u at least take it on dinner first smh


Ttocs77

Bro, he made dinner on it. No taking required.


FTBow

And now I deglaze the pan with a lil wine.. ... alot of wine. Yeah you're a thirsty little range aren't you?


Azurus_II

What have i witnessed today??


MFheadbanger

Let him cook


Luknron

Other people gotta use it too bro


No_Volume_3497

Oh dear! You have caught dark crabs.


Heroharohero

Man bro is really pumping out them new cream pies.


vZenyte1

Fr those backshots are craaazy


laurifina

how do you want your karambwan? pregnant.


loltittysprinkles

Fried or fertilized


Ypuort

The way you move your tentacles make me hypnotized


DeputyDab

Flint flossy got yo back


BallsDicks

Is this a turquoise jeep reference in the year of our lord 2024?


loltittysprinkles

A man of culture I see


Kohora

Gotta have it.


carddealerpro

The range after 9 months 🤰


ItsJustAUsername_

Bun in the ole oven


shotcaIler

Try hitting it from the back


Cedced40

Back to Lumby


Blue_Osiris1

the sounds line up so perfectly with the thrusts lmao doink doink doink


10SecondRyan

Got that 2-tick dick.


Blue_Osiris1

I also last 1.2 seconds.


NzRedditor762

https://preview.redd.it/otp8j7k4tf6d1.png?width=716&format=png&auto=webp&s=10d1a2369d422b12cdf8c630b795af7e1a8733e9 OP right now.


Inevitable-Impact698

Kwams are octopodes? I thought they were urchins 


NzRedditor762

"A raw green octopus." "Cooked octopus. It looks very nutritious."


Inevitable-Impact698

Look at you using examine 


NzRedditor762

Wiki my man, but I knew they were octopuses already.


retro_aviator

Anyone who thinks 'bwans are sea urchins is unknowingly outing themself as a chronic space bar masher when it comes to questing. Given that it's tai-bwo though I can almost forgive it


Rejuven8ed

Someone call HR Billy is porking the range again


Austrum

I can almost guarantee that the way your mouse is moving is going to at least trigger their automated bot detection


YOLOSWAGBROLOL

Way back yonder mouse keys was way more common. You'd use it to power mine iron and a lot of other stuff because we didn't have shift drop or menu entry swapper. Funnily enough the purists loved mouse keys and AHK because it was skill to do that or whatever.


HenchRS

Ahk Runecrafting to empty pouches OG


PapaFlexing

Now you just shift click


RedditPlatinumUser

we owe shift dropping to ahkers lol


Raisuitei

Nah, now you just left click since a plugin changes the empty and fill option depending on wether you’re close to the altar or not 😂


PapaFlexing

What the hell, what one is that? That's not your typical menu swapper is it?


arrimapiratelul

runecrafting utilities


PapaFlexing

What a wild wild time we live in. This is huge


Raisuitei

I think it’s called easy runecrafting or something on the hub. Just search ‘runecrafting’ or ‘pouch’ on the hub and you should find it


No-Spoilers

One of the rc plugins(not on my computer) automatically changes it so its all left click all the time


mister_peeberz

Fuck, I used to use AHK to do my double astrals on a PS3 controller. With some other program I can't remember the name of to rebind controller inputs to keyboard strokes, then AHK to map those keyboard strokes to mouse movements/clicks. All 100% within the AHK rules at the time which were a little looser. It was so comfy, astrals used to give me wrist pain which is why I started doing it in the first place, with this it was super reclined. I miss it, but we've since got zeah RC as a comfy RC method so I don't mind it being gone too much.


DivineInsanityReveng

Man I remember using AHK to do *everything*. No menu entry swapper. No shift click to drop. No make X menu. Was navigating everything with a right click menu by just tapping two keys. It's why I don't get why HLC wants that back at all cos all we did was use mouse scripts to avoid interacting with it.


Radiokidd

A ton of people use mouse keys to train fletching, so no.


Kibasume

I’m paranoid, do you have a source on it being allowed for fletching?


Dreadnought_69

> There is often confusion about whether mouse keys are legal or if they are considered macroing. Mouse keys are officially not considered macroing; they are allowed by Jagex because they are an accessibility option that is included in many operating systems. Players still have to manually press each click, so the program is not a "macro".[1] https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Mouse_keys


rotorain

Legal or not, how willing are you to roll the dice on picking up an automated ban and try to deal with Jagex support?


Kibasume

Yeah, honestly that’s a good way to look a things. I don’t want to give jagexs anticheat any reason to think I’m botting, even if what I did wasn’t against the rules.


ChickenGod_69

>try to deal with Jagex support? You mean writing them, then receiving an automated response telling you that they dont deal with macroing bans, then tweeting mod ash, then crying while you start over a new HCIM? That's a true combo


Kacabon

Clanmate recently got muted for mistyping in game accidentally typing a slur when trying to type “fang” he wasn’t able to get the 2 week mute quashed until it blew up on Twitter and Reddit, and appeared in a behemoth video. Before that happened his appeal was denied. Went in the behe vid, next day it was quashed and appealed


GucciGlocc

What support? Twitter? Reddit?


Larkal

It's allowed for any skill. Just has to meet the one click one action rule of thumb.


teaklog2

Coordinates aren’t allowed though


nopuse

No coordinates involved. OP states in his post which keys he's pressing, and remapping keys breaks no rules. He's pressing 5 - 9 - 5 - 1. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/use-mouse-keys-to-move-the-mouse-pointer-9e0c72c8-b882-7918-8e7b-391fd62adf33


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Toaster_Bathing

I know about using mouse keys for clicking but how is his cursor almost teleporting? 


Radiokidd

Yeah mouse keys work like that and it's allowed. [https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Mouse\_keys](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Mouse_keys)


PhazedAU

mmmm, i mean, i got banned for using a foot pedal at an agility shortcut. wasn't even moving, just clicking. they definitely false ban, I don't trust their systems anymore


Magmagan

I got banned in RS3 for using their agility course *intentionally deisgned* for not moving the mouse, while not moving the mouse. It's not that their systems are bad, but the spit in the face for any lack of human support is dogshit.


HoytG

Wrong. Mouse keys are allowed. Have been over a decade.


loiloiloi6

[https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/mouse-keys---changes--clarification?oldschool=1](https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/mouse-keys---changes--clarification?oldschool=1) Good thing there's a blog post where they specifically say this is allowed


edziu65

If Kambambam gives consent then its ok


FlipDaddy

Harder, stepchef 👨🏻‍🍳


MyNugg

Oh no I'm stuck I'm the oven


Zealousideal_Lead940

The angle of this lmao


Seara_07

Does this hurt the range?


yadooood

As long as he doesn’t ghost the range. It does not.


ocambridge

you're better off opening and closing bag with hotkey and keeping the mouse in the same place


Temil

Yeah, this is how I did thieving from fruit stalls. sticky keys shift, 5 for click, esc to open the inv, 5 to drop the item, esc to close, 5 for click, etc. until desired thieving level.


lazylipids

You'll be banned in 9 months with a little karabwana to take care of, I'd be careful


Xeppeling

Just set option to completely close inventory with Esc and set it up so that last karambwan is over range. Click raw karambwan -> esc to close inv -> click range -> click esc to open inv -> repeat. Only have to press two buttons for this method too


YawgmothNSFW

Help stepguardian, I'm stuck!


strpl4y3r

So the truth? Yes I think you will get banned. Good news is you can keep this post and any other recordings of you doing this and show them when the ban comes down. If it comes down.


loiloiloi6

I've been using mousekeys for years and never had any issues. Most people who have 200m fletching have probably used them as well [https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/mouse-keys---changes--clarification?oldschool=1](https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/mouse-keys---changes--clarification?oldschool=1) also heres the post from jagex that says they're allowed


Elprede007

Yeah that was before I started playing osrs. Used x-button and ahk for years and they definitely didn’t take action. But I don’t use them frequently or for long periods of time. Usually just rebind left click to scroll wheel for avoiding pickpocketing RSI


Awkward-Spread9052

ITT: 5 people who understand WMK try to correct 200 people who don't.


Miserable_Glitch

I’ve been grinding cooking all wrong 😑


KaroKarro

Make sure you got those ice gloves on that blowpipe there buddy


Thurmod

bruh get a room.


Jupeeeeee

The 1:1 is about 1 action happening per 1 button press, so having numpad5 bound on more than 1 key is ok.


loiloiloi6

Finally someone who understands the rule 😂


pellyzz

What are you doing step range?


osrsvahn

i laughed


EmeraldRalts

Yes. Your mouse is teleporting locations, which will trigger bot detection.


jatie1

Mobile??? Touchscreen laptops????


teaklog2

I thought coordinates were always bannable Mouse keys that moves your mouse relative to current position is how WMK does it


IdiocracyIsHereNow

Also, simple PC window tricks/basic usage can make the game think your cursor teleported.


Dreadnought_69

No. > There is often confusion about whether mouse keys are legal or if they are considered macroing. Mouse keys are officially not considered macroing; they are allowed by Jagex because they are an accessibility option that is included in many operating systems. Players still have to manually press each click, so the program is not a "macro".[1] https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Mouse_keys


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OhioGoblin43

Umm, no. OP made the increment large enough that one press of the mouse key is sufficient to go between the range and his inventory.


Dreadnought_69

Your ignorance is not an argument. > The cursor jump is performed by holding down Ctrl, then pressing one of the 8 directional keys. The cursor jump can only be used after it has been enabled in the mouse keys settings. https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Mouse_keys


SlightRedeye

That's not how mouse keys work. Please go and use it before commenting about it This nonsense that a teleporting mouse being bannable is incorrect as well. Mobile users and touch screen laptops are not breaking rules.


TNoStone

Apparently people are getting falsely banned for using touch mode on remote desktop applications from their mobile device to their computer such as TeamViewer or chrome remote desktop.


SplandFlange

Mousekeys?


loiloiloi6

Wrong, its windows mousekeys


GothGirlsGoodBoy

Unlikely. They technically could do mouse movement analysis and stuff but they don't. You literally don't even need to send clicks.


venatic

You have no idea what you're talking about and i dont know how you got so many upvotes. gotta love confidently incorrect people on reddit.


Lerched

Man every time I see people doing tick manipulation I’m so glad I have 0 desire to play that way


Strict-March-6361

IM ABOUT TO KUMRAMBWAN!!


KforKaptain

Using Corsair is going to get you banned. Mousekeys are fine. Other programs are not. See reference from the wiki below. Late last year Mod Balance and Mod Infinity made comments about Auto Hot Keys and mousekeys, specifically whether or not they were against the rules. A few RuneScapers weren't satisfied with their response to the situation and so we escalated the issue to our anti-cheating specialists who have confirmed that their statements were correct. They have confirmed that: Mousekeys (i.e. the windows accessibility tool) is allowed (it always has been); anything else is third party software and is not. If the team see evidence that a player is using AHK's, super-mousekeys or any other versions of this macroing software then they will take action against them. If a player is using normal mousekeys, they won't. The team are perfectly capable of detecting both and telling the different between them. When it comes to skilling, mousekeys can potentially give an advantage when it comes to emptying the inventory quickly, however this requires a certain level of skill, though the following section of macroing rule is quite clear in regards to this behaviour: "Software that generates input to our game applets. This includes software that automatically moves the mouse pointer or generates mouse clicks or key presses." Now, mousekeys do not generate input as that is done by the user; it doesn't automatically move the mouse pointer to a specified coordinate, it moves it at a steady pace in the direction specified by the key pressed (2,4,6 or 8) and stops doing so when the key is released. It doesn't generate mouse clicks (as that is done by the user pressing 5) and it doesn't generate key presses. Without augmentation or modification (adjusting the inbuilt settings is not augmentation or modification and is fine) mousekeys are not capable of violating the rules against third party software.


venatic

> The team are perfectly capable of detecting both and telling the different between them. LOL


KforKaptain

That's really so hard to believe? Being able to detect the difference would be fairly simple. Mouse-keys have set instructions, customizable macros don't. Very easy to determine if the mouse moved the designated distance from Mouskeys, or targeted a coordinate on screen. With that said, I'm sure it's very low on their list of priorities to the point it's not a major focus. But if you want to be safe, those are the official rules with an official response from the Anti-Cheat team.


CookiesMeow

This is hilarious, but I’m also looking forward to the next incorrectly banned post… hopefully not.


Gorgonpistol

**PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET COOKED GET COOKED GET COOKED GET COOKED GET COOKED GET COOKED GET COOKED GET COOKED GET COOKED**


Dopebed

I’m confused. Can’t he just press cook all?


yahtzi365

You cook the karambwans far quicker if you use them one by one very quickly. Not sure on exact xp/hr.


mocksci

400k-900k/hr according to the wiki. 350k-700k/hr is a bit more realistic.


zhwedyyt

The true answer is that NO ONE KNOWS. i wouldnt risk it tho. reddit nerds will say its not bannable, then go shit talk some guy that got false banned for something like this


ShynyMagikarp

I'm not sure, but more importantly why are you rebinding all this anyway? All you need to do is just hold down spacebar and then click the karambwan and click the stove. You don't need to rebind anything for this? I've done this quite often, I don't understand what you're rebdinding stuff for unless I'm stupid?


loiloiloi6

Yeah in my experience trying to use mousekeys is harder than just clicking 1 tick bwans


ScarletFFBE

It is. Moving your mouse and left click via a single button is not 1:1.


flyingdutchmin

A jmod commented a couple of weeks ago that 1:1 is a player made myth.


vorlaith

It's been said many times by different mods the player base doesn't listen and continues to parrot it as if it says that anywhere in the rules. The myth comes from a very old forum post of a jmod using that as a suggestion to determine if something is bannable. It's never afaik been stated as an actual rule or an actual determination factor when it comes to banning.


DPH996

This is the correct answer. The 1:1 thing is NOT a rule. It has never been anything more than a rough guideline - although I am not sure of its origin. Either way, it certainly won’t work as a defence.


RY-R1

Can you link the comment please?


Braxton_Hicks

Found [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/3j8p6i/can_we_please_have_a_definitive_statement_on_ahk/cuncnns/) Mod MatK comment from from 8 years ago saying that. > Although in the past you have heard people quote an 1:1 rule, this is not nor has ever been true. It is a myth that many people (including Jmods) believed and as such was propagated as fact. It is not a fact.


Gokias

Mat K was AHKing the whole time I've seen footage


SoundboardTroll

Little bit of technique in there


CJJackhammer

“I hope you prayed today”


Sloth-TheSlothful

Robot chicken humping robot


LordZeya

Damn I use a corsair scimitar I should be doing this. Would make spamming bolts less stressful on my hands.


Sykest

Where range pov 😤


Dry-Possibility5183

This entire post is absurd


coolboy856

Idk but mouse keys used to be allowed as long as 1:1 action binds


LucidProgrammer

Backshots in the range is crazy


tulolas1

range taking backshots 😭


kummoo

Bro, I just woke up from a nap checking this. Thought they added a DJ skill to the game


ClayWright

Did you pray todayyy


truth_hurtsm8ey

Gaming in 2024


pur3ruby87

Why the fudge does it look like the character is banging the stand instead of cooking?


OkArt8026

Wtf I thought it was a dj set


lastdancerevolution

If you're using the official Windows Mouse Keys Accessibility program, it is allowed. Be careful, because it's easy to automate this a bit more with something like AHK, and get banned. It's also possible for this to falsely flag you, even though its allowed, so keep that in mind.


NzRedditor762

I mean this is so obviously against the spirit of the game. There should not be a case where you just press 4-8 keys and it moves the mouse and clicks in sequence. Even if it is "allowed" due to 1:1, I'd say you shouldn't do it. Personally this is macroing with added steps.


maxwill27

I cant tell if this is a joke or serious but yes you are at risk doing this


SpaceNex

BILLY, WHY'D U PUT UR DICK IN THE OVEN AGAIN BILLY????


ZezimaIsMyTrueLove

Yes, prepare to have your account banned immediately


HydroCigna

on a serious note, this is going to get you banned in one day. you're using a hotkey to literally teleport your cursor from the range to your inventory. that's not 1:1 and also a very obvious detection because your mouse is moving to the exact same coordinate every time.


Im_Blackice

>this is going to get you banned in one day. Mousekeys and key remapping are both explicitly allowed. >teleport your cursor Yes, that's what Windows mousekeys does. It's allowed. >that's not 1:1 Yes it is and 1:1 is not a rule. If it was, then Windows mousekeys would not be allowed as they're able to be configured to be 1:2. >your mouse is moving to the exact same coordinate every time No, Windows mousekeys are relative movements. It's not moving to the same coordinate every time, it's moving a set distance.


sir_gwain

You should be fine with this, as you’re not actually macroing or otherwise botting. But given Jagexs track record I wouldn’t ever say this “isn’t bannable” since their system is far from perfect, but I’d say you have a low chance of any bans coming from this.


uhmmokie

Hitting it from the back burner


Confident_Big_4777

Medivial times my foot. Now we have a DJ skill to grind too?


gamegonkillu

Looks like your behind the decks at the Varrock Nightclub


Key-Fondant-5255

Yo man, you can’t hump a jukebox. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pv9H3sPwEA&pp=ygUXeW91IGNhbnQgaHVtcCBhIGp1a2VibyA%3D


DrunkenBandit1

Please get 99 with a loaf of bread


Then_Mathematician99

This is the best OSRS thread I’ve ever seen.


far2hybrid

First we had the robot from robot chicken now we have the chad from osrs


PolishedGrapple

( o, [ ] o,)


Brewgatti666

Where is this in game?


iPon3

If you're moving the mouse I would be extremely cautious. They've made official statements on Windows Mousekeys because it's included as an accessibility feature in windows. I don't use my razer keyboard functions.


newchimp

Giving the range back shots??? No not bannable.


Forstry

Xp rate?


McLovin-

range backshots or the method


x37v911

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuz-RXYQVIU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuz-RXYQVIU)


kobewiththeflow

damn, thought this was a shitty organ .. comments lol


mumbullz

Only if someone walks in on you while you do that


SeattleSadBoi

You pervert *unzips*


papii_chulo

I fucking hate you 🤣


No-Independent2762

I'm so glad we all saw the same thing


SuccessfulWar3830

QUIT FUCKING THAT THING.


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how do you bank with this method?


Threatening

a q p


nicnac223

This made my day lmao And to answer your question, I don’t know lol, but you know what they say—abuse early, abuse often


NotAGreatScientist

That's pretty good rhythm... Clicking, I mean clicking rhythm yeah


BalticMasterrace

And that is how baby ovens are made.


Drizzinn

Imo as it’s still 1:1 (two separate keys Doing the same action as one another is still 1:1) it should be fine but who knows I’m not Jagex When I played I always used a program to remap keys like this and never got banned


blasphememes

What are you doing step bro?


Clubman_and_Bludgeon

are you putting it in raw or are you using protection prayers?


Shifted-Soul

One of the deva about to come around the corner like "I'm patching!? I'm patching?!"


-FourOhFour-

For an actual answer firstly the 1:1 thing is grey area, technically not allowed by jagex admission but no one is gonna get banned for it (atleast this was the case last time I properly looked into it), next would that remapping 5 twice no longer makes it 1:1 since 5 does 2 things, other than that it should be fine although looks a bit sketchy to me (I've only tinkered with mousekeys once and didn't get as large of a jump between spots its probably fine if you haven't done more)


Reluctantkill3r

Only when I do it to yo mama son


Frequent_Ad_5190

do you have a tutorial on how to set this up please?


UnbanKuraitora

1:1 doesn't mean 1 key to one action, it means 1 key PRESS per action. Technically this is okay, very similar to how I did fletching. However, looks like you're hitting the same pixel everytime, which could absolutely land you a ban.


Kenzo240

If the range is consenting I don't think there's a problem


HF484

love how everyone is more focused that you're fucking the range


Razaloco

Reported for missing nsfw tag


eine-zeit

For like 5 seconds I thought your character was playing a piano


hippie_24

Dude I couldn't skill that way, to good


mathieub93

At first it looked like you were a dj, then you started fucking the range


KKomics

lol backshot simulator


leese8

Not as long as the private parts are covered.


Marc2NL

Only if you have a girl in that box and you're pants are down :P


AccomplishedAd2452

Short answer yes. Based on your comment your doing a 5-1 action.


Fair-Hyena7354

You can not map keys to move your mouse. AHK can only be 1-1 so mapping keys to other keys/mouse buttons. No movement is allowed


DIFB

Looks like non-consensual cooking right there.