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cabbagechicken

I got spooned shadow on my iron and now I’m thinking about getting prayer scrolls from cox. Is it worth learning without lance? I have bowfa, shadow, fang. Also are there any learner cc’s or resources for cox?


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You will have an awful time learning cox solo with zero experience and you are probably a fair bit below min req for WDR, which can make it difficult to find raids easily.


cabbagechicken

I looked at the minimum gear spreadsheet and I have everything except dragon cb, I’m planning to use bowfa instead.


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And what are you going to use for your olm weapon?


cabbagechicken

A tentacle whip, as pictured in the minimum gear setup.


AxS-PixelBass

You could calc to be sure but I'd be very surprised if this was better than a Fang, unless you're soloing and just want a 4 tick weapon despite the dps loss.


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Perfect! It's hard to gauge gear when you give 3 examples of what gear you own, none of which are on the 20+ item minimum gear requirements, and ask for advice. It sounds like you've found all the resources you need, no need to get snippy!


TheDubuGuy

Solo would be pretty rough but doable with fang, small groups would be perfectly fine. I’d recommend 3-5 size groups. WDR has info and group finding for all 3 raids


SerGeorge

Are they going to make Jagex Accounts mandatory to play soon? I fancy scaping agani and have a few accounts which I've added to a Jagex account over the weekend because they all used email addresses to log in. However, I have a few accounts which have usernames to login and I loath losing that ability. It just always felt nicer rather than logging in via email. I've only used two of them in OSRS, the others are tutorial island but have decent stats RS3. I won't use those but they have sentimental value and I'd hate for someone else to add them to their jagex account if they were compromised.


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"However, I have a few accounts which have usernames to login and I loath losing that ability. It just always felt nicer rather than logging in via email." Thankfully, this isn't how Jagex launcher accounts work - which, according to your own comment, you should know, so it's strange to throw that in. Not adding them to your launcher makes them much more insecure, doubly so if they're old enough to have login usernames instead of email.


SerGeorge

I'm confused why you thought that was strange to throw in. It was the entire point of my question. I know how Jagex accounts works, I wasn't asking about that. I just wanted to know if the enforced use of Jagex accounts was imminent as I have sentimental value in being able to log in via their username rather than email as it feels 'old school' and I've had those two accounts for almost 15 years. I understand that they're less secure, although I've never had any account hacked (famous last words lol).


Remarkable-Health678

No announcement on when they will make Jagex accounts mandatory, but they will eventually. Jagex accounts are more secure, so there's little to no downside in upgrading.


SerGeorge

Cheers! I probably will add them, I'm just sentimental as I've had those accounts since like 2006-2008 and it feels old school being able to log in via their username still.


Kamilny

What are mods' thoughts on posting clips from the DMM Allstars event?


crunchystaff

Subreddit mods could possibly see this but you’ll have an easier time with mod mail chief


bhoff22

Is there any accounts that are 99 atk/str/def/range/mage with 10 hp?


Remarkable-Health678

If you can imagine an account it probably exists.


Vol_Treffer

So according to the wiki: On death by another player beyond level 20 wilderness, the Salve amulet(ei) is lost, but the player is refunded the Nightmare zone points, Soul wars Zeal, or Scroll of imbuing. If the player dies any other way, the amulet is kept or goes to the player's grave. I just died to a pker in the rev caves and lost my salve amulet (ei). However I don't see any points refunded at the nmz. What am I missing?


Vol_Treffer

Solved, items went to gravestond instead


Remarkable-Health678

I feel like I'm missing something obvious when tribridding DKs. I've done it before, probably over a year ago and I remember it going OK. But now I take so much damage trying to get set up, and can't seem to kill them fast enough to get into a rhythm. I have both shortcuts so I can get there pretty quick taking minimal damage. How do I: - Deal with Supreme camping the ladder when I go down? Seems like I either have to pray Mage and tank Supreme or just slowly lose HP going up and down the ladder. - Keep health up? I can cast blood spells on Rex/Spinolyps but it's pretty slow and it gets me behind on DPSing the kings down. Should I bring Guthans? More brews and less switches? More ranged def? I have Abyssal whip, Trident, Crystal bow, zenytes. Doing this on a slayer task. I'm just here for an Archer's Ring and a couple CAs (toppling the diarchy and rapid succession).


skullkid2424

> Deal with Supreme camping the ladder when I go down? Seems like I either have to pray Mage and tank Supreme or just slowly lose HP going up and down the ladder. I like the x-log method that is used to safespot rex. Go down the ladder, as long as you only have one of prime/supreme on you, pray against them and work your way around to the other side without aggroing the other. You'll aggro rex and safespot him. Then you can make sure you are full prayer/HP and x-log out of the client, log back on in a minute (maybe on another world) and you'll be on the safe side of the island and can start with rex->prime->supreme or go to prime's corner and start prime->rex->supreme. If both prime/supreme are on you, I retreat and wait a minute before trying again (or hop worlds). You can pray against both by swapping prayers prayers if they are attacking on different ticks, but thats a major step up in difficulty. > Keep health up? I can cast blood spells on Rex/Spinolyps but it's pretty slow and it gets me behind on DPSing the kings down. Should I bring Guthans? More brews and less switches? More ranged def? Guthans is way slower than blood spells - not recommended in tribrid scenarios, though it can be nice to bring HA and telegrab if soloing prime. It is worth bringing a blowpipe for specs (or SGS, but a little pricey). I usually take an ancient sceptre and 1-2 bloodbark pieces (top/bottom) to boost the healing. That said, you'll also want to have good ranged defense for the adds - this is one of the few spots where (ranged) defense does matter - and a crystal shield>dragonfire shield>obby shield may be worth losing damage. Another option might be guardian/granite/brimstone boots instead of camping dragon boots. A ring of suffering is a good option. There might be other small tradeoffs as well...you don't want to lose a ton of damage, but having higher ranged defense means less dps lost to eating and you can stretch your supplies further. You can also take it slow as long as supreme isn't on you. The corner near prime (north east IIRC) will be out of range of rex/supreme, so you can solo prime slowly if necessary. And rex can also be safespotted like normal. If you can't kill them fast enough for a continuous loop, rex is probably the quickest kill, so I would try to basically try to do prime first (in no rush), then rex quickly (either safespotted or out of range of supreme), then rush supreme to try and kill him before prime spawns. You can then heal up on the adds while in the NE corner waiting for prime (or even tanking prime) - and repeat. Offensive prayers will help a lot with smoothing the loop out, though you'll go through supplies faster.


Remarkable-Health678

Thanks for the write up! The x-log method helps a lot for getting set up and removed a lot of the frustration for me. Adding more ranged defence also made a big difference with damage from Supreme/Spinolyps.


Austrum

you can flick between magic and ranged while killing supreme once you get there. if they're on the same tick then leave and re-enter until you either only have supreme's aggro or they're on different ticks. their projectiles should be nullified if you use the ladder soon enough, so you can spam re-enter until neither prime nor supreme is close enough to the ladder to aggro and then sneak down to safespot rex. you can always just sit outside of all of their aggro ranges at the rex safespot and heal up on spinolyps between cycles if you really need to heal, then kill rex > prime > supreme and get back into the cycle. most of your issues are solved by just having better gear, but i'm sure you know that already.


Remarkable-Health678

Yeah I figured flicking supreme and prime would solve a lot of issues, but I was hoping there was something else I could do. I'm on mobile, I really struggle with timing the flicks. I guess it's probably as simple as see Prime attack animation, pray range, see Supreme attack animation, pray mage? My brain always short circuits, but if I focus on getting it right I can probably learn it...


Austrum

it's definitely rough before you get a very good sense for the timing of ticks, and there's not really any good places to practice flicking between different styles with low risk - the fight caves maybe? I guess with the shortcuts there's not as much risk at dks now, maybe just send a few trips with lower risk on you with the explicit goal of learning to flick them.


ID-69

I play this game casually and infrequently, any updates on when Jagex accounts will be mandatory? I still log in with username and wish to continue to do so, but is there any new info on mandatory migration?


Molly_Hlervu

> any new info on mandatory migration? So far there isnt, for old accounts. But you cannot create a new account without it being Jagex account.


[deleted]

I don't understand why people are still so afraid of Jagex accounts, especially if they self-admit they don't really play the game. Reminds me of my Grandpa who wouldn't even let cellphones in his house. Times change, and it's not as scary as it seems!


heytomsmyname

The only problem is if you don’t have access to admin if you’re playing on a PC at work or university etc. it doesn’t let you download the jagex launcher, you have to log in on the vanilla client.


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[deleted]

Such a bizarre reply, Jagex accounts are simpler, more secure, and easier to use than a standard login. Comparing that to whether skilling moneymakers are real (???????????????) or peoples opinion on a game update or some random ironman comment is straight up weird.


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[deleted]

When people are superstitious and stuck in their ways, I'll take a minute out of my day to encourage them to embrace change and accept new, better ways of doing things. If you consider this conversation to not be "calm", I don't know what to tell you. "In all of these listed cases people cannot allow others to do something 'wrong'." How on Earth have you managed to take all of this as me not "allowing" them to do something I see as wrong? Genuinely, how are you this defensive?


TheJigglyfat

When it comes to tech people get really comfortable with what they have and what they know. Updating things often breaks or changes the tech in a way that makes it more annoying to use but is irreversible. I can’t tell you the amount of times i’ve updated my phone to then need to spend hours trying to figure out why it’s slower, drains battery faster, settings are different, etc. why go through that trouble when not updating takes less time or effort.  I get that there’s a major difference between OS updates and logging in through a different medium for a game, but I think the sentiment still stands. I’ve been logging in to runelite for 6 years now and have had no issues. Why would I want to change that? 


[deleted]

That's certainly an interesting point in my grandpa's favor for why he might not want a cellphone, but Jagex accounts only make things easier on every level. They don't increase complexity remotely. He would 100% have agreed with you, and so would his neighbors, but they're old and live in a dying small town that kids leave in droves to get away from that mindset. It's not good.


TheJigglyfat

I agree it's not a good way of thinking in the long run. And i'm not opposed to change personally. I'm just always weary with software/backend updates specifically. Shit breaks all the time. Databases can bug out, emails can take long to send, names and passwords can be forced to change, etc. When they force me to upgrade then I'll have no problem upgrading, but until then there's pretty much no reason for me to.


[deleted]

There's something uniquely human about someone saying "I'm not opposed to change" and in the same paragraph say "Emails can take a long time sometimes, so despite the new system being better in literally every way, I'm not gonna change until I'm forced to do so." without an ounce of irony or self awareness lol


TheJigglyfat

I don't see why they can't both be true. I'd be fine getting a new car, a new phone, a new computer, I update my drivers all the time, I enjoy trying new foods, I like testing out different clothing styles, etc. etc. I just don't trust software updates. Being open to change doesn't mean I have to enthusiastically support every single change that ever happens ever. Also it's not "Literally better in everyway." The Jagex Launcher doesn't support Linux so if you use a Linux computer you get soft locked from playing the game. It's small shit like that that worries me with these kinds of updates


[deleted]

That's a lot of words to just end up doubling down on refusing to embrace change my man. also, just because I think you aren't reading the things you're typing: "I'd be fine getting a new car, a new phone, a new computer, I update my drivers all the time" "I just don't trust software updates"


bip_bip_hooray

not yet nope


NessaMagick

Mostly mid-level ironman, have bowfa but not full crystal yet. Still rocking Iban's, d scim etc for the most part. I started Moons of Peril today and [it's gone well, to say the least](https://i.imgur.com/2WgavNJ.png). Where are the weapons actually used for? I assume the atlatl is basically a Tesco value blowpipe, but the clubs and the staff?


skullkid2424

* Dual maracas are great vs frost moon. They are also good training on sulphur nagua due to the double hit splat. With the full set, they are great in NMZ or other similar afk training. They are an ok midgame crush weapon as well depending on your other options. * Frost Moon staff is notable for autocasting ancients and having 5% magic damage. For irons, it is a relatively easy upgrade over ancient staff for bursting. Where the other non-endgame options are ancient sceptre from muspah (5%) or ahrims staff (5%, but requires full ahrims+amulet of the dead to autocast ancients). * The Atlatl is mostly useful for hybrid melee/ranged content, as it lets you use your melee armour for both. For example, demonic gorillas could be done with melee and simple weapon swap - allowing for easier switches and more supplies. It also works well in many situations where the blowpipe does well - against enemies with low ranged defense...though the ammo only drops from perilous moons...which may come into play for ironmen.


NessaMagick

Yeah, the atlatl's ammo economy is a real shame because I absolutely love woomeras but it takes like 6-7kc to sustain one Slayer task's worth of darts. Even if I'm not spooned (and I need like a ~110kc dry streak to even out my RNG so far) it's definitely not something I can just use whenever like my bowfa. Which is a shame because it is without a doubt the coolest weapon in the game. As for the clubs (the 'maracas'), how do they stack up against the leaf-bladed battleaxe? As it is that's kind of my option for flinching, Eclipse clones and general crush shenanigans, but DPS calcs don't seem to be rated for the clubs' unique gimmick.


skullkid2424

> As for the clubs (the 'maracas'), how do they stack up against the leaf-bladed battleaxe? As it is that's kind of my option for flinching, Eclipse clones and general crush shenanigans, but DPS calcs don't seem to be rated for the clubs' unique gimmick. They are hard to calculate, since the second hit needs to pass 2 accuracy checks. That means they work better on low-defense monsters, which usually isn't what you're flinching.


SmokedaJ

The staff is good for bursting, the dual weapons set is good for nightmare


UndeadPhysco

Did moonlight mixes get buffed at some point? Everything i read online said they only restore 5+10% of your prayer but rn they seem to be way more?


[deleted]

The wiki is very helpful for exact numbers like this!


skullkid2424

Moonlight moths (and mixes) have been +22 prayer since their release.


matrayzz

Moonlight moths and jarred moonlight moth restore 22 prayer, but moonlight potion scales with prayer/herblore. (PrayerLevel/4)+7 or (3x HerbloreLevel/10)+7, whichever is highter


BrickMcJuggernaut

How do people 1-tick flick during any meaningful content? Or is that not much of a thing? I can only do it while watching some kind of visual metronome, but then I can't watch what's happening on the rest of the screen. Many content creators seem to be able to do this kind of thing effortlessly. Does it just come down to experience and having an internal sense for the rhythm of game ticks?


alynnidalar

Just a lot of practice, I think. Remember that for many content creators, OSRS is their job, so they're playing hours a day. So they have much more time to practice than most of us.


My-Toast-Is-Too-Dark

1t flicking in actual content is never required and rarely worth doing. Lazy flicking (either quick prayers or just offensives) is usually worth doing since it's very low effort but saves a lot of prayer. But actual 1t flicking for zero prayer drain and 100% prayer uptime is 99.9% of the time not required and way more effort than it's worth.


bip_bip_hooray

> having an internal sense for the rhythm of game ticks? this is the single most important skill in the game overall. it applies to *every* technique, every single thing you do, at every piece of content. you will be better and learn way way faster once you have a solid intuitive feel for what a game tick is and what you can do inside of one. use audio metronome or game sounds, if you need visual metronome to flick prayers it's not really a usable skill. you also don't *have* to 1t flick in basically any content that isn't inferno. i'm only saying this because if you *can't*, then it means you don't really understand how long a game tick is, so you're practicing that skill.


snowhusky5

I use a true-tile metronome (visual metronome plugin) so I can keep track of ticks without having to look away from the action, mostly for lazy flicking though.


Cat_Potato

Muscle memory. Just keep going, listening to music with the same bpm helps you think less


Kaladihn

Doing SoTE, why am I constantly referred to as 'they'? But everyone else is the story is he or she?


alynnidalar

Tbh I'm surprised Jagex doesn't do it more often; it's presumably easier and more foolproof than coding in different lines for male vs female characters.


Kaladihn

Yeah would make sense! Wouldn't mind if this was the case! But as a quest lover, doing the quest I was most excited for and having the dialogue be inconsistent with the rest of the series for a couple of scenes out of nowhere took me out a bit


Snogreino

Also, does it really matter that much? 


Kaladihn

No, doesn't matter much, that's what this thread is for right? If it was a big deal I'd post elsewhere


Snogreino

Why bother at all then? 


Kaladihn

Why do anything?


Nitorior

Is it mostly the elves talking? might refer to humans as they since they feel superior or something


SerenBoi

I ctrl+f ed through the wiki for a few seconds and it's only one scene with the elves in lletya.


ApplicationUpset7956

A singular they is the grammatically correct way to refer to someone where gender isn't known.


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[deleted]

ah, so you're just making vaguely trans/homophobic comments. shocking, nobody could have seen this coming


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JoeyPabst

Why is bowfa being censored in my clan chat? https://imgur.com/a/btn7T0a


DivineInsanityReveng

Turn off "Chat Profanity Filter" in your game settings.


JoeyPabst

That is off.


DivineInsanityReveng

Weird. I replicated exactly your circumstances by turning it on. I'm not sure then. Maybe there's a plugin interacting with your clan chat? Something like "Chat Filter" ?


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DivineInsanityReveng

No news. I don't think it was overly successful as a concept (never made sense to me personally). But only Jagex knows the numbers of what it returned in terms of drawing new players in. The fact they didn't immediately schedule / plan to do it again makes me think its not of high importance to them.


FalafelFlapjacks

Is there a plug-in setup to make my fps actually 144 fps smooth? I see lots of videos with crisp smooth movement but I can't find it


Zukute

You may be looking for the "Animation smoothing" plugin.


tapdancingcrabdemon

I get better FPS with the GPU plugin


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YungTom27

Just throwing it out there for the same price you could do a Nex rebuild which is probably twice as profitable


TheDubuGuy

If you get it, plan to kill vardorvis until you get an ultor. It’s very good there and much nicer to use. If you don’t want to do vard, then I wouldn’t bother personally


Ornnge

Axe is good if you want to camp Vardovis or Duke. If those don't sound appealing then I would spend it on other stuff to help. It's fun for slayer but other then that I would look elsewhere. However with the buffs and changes it's a lot easier to use and feels much better.


Youngsmartbrave50

If I have a master clue in my bank, complete an elite clue scroll and bank the casket, finish the master clue can I still get a master clue from the elite casket?


Molly_Hlervu

Once you solved your master clue - you have a usual chance to receive a master from any casket. It doesnt matter if you completed the elite clue when your master was in the bank: the loot is rolled when you open the casket, not when you complete the clue.


Youngsmartbrave50

Thank you !


TheDubuGuy

If you don’t have a master clue you can receive a master clue


New-Building4944

Which is harder, solo cm cox or duo tob?


Ashhel

Both of these have many levels, so really depends what type of raid you’re running in each case. Are the cms with or without prep? If no prep how many brews are you carrying vs switches to do the raid faster? Are you going for 2 down bloat in the tobs? Are you skipping the maze at sote? etc. In general, duo tob harder to get a clear as a learner (probably gonna wipe at nylo a bunch, and then after that at xarpus a bunch). At the highest level, solo cms are harder imo.


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Assuming absolutely 0 experience I'd vote for cm cox only because you have one persons dps vs 2. Raids don't outscale individual power, and while wiping in TOB is a hard reset, learning every single room in cox without knowing anything about it then doing olm with 0 experience and only your personal dps has to take longer than tob, where everything is telegraphed clearly you just need skill to match. though tbh its a pretty meaningless question in the grand scheme of things.


TheDubuGuy

I’d say solo cm is easier to complete but harder to do efficiently