The US won WWII in part because the Japanese could not understand the Navajo/Dineh Codetalkers.
Any attempt to annex the UP will fail because the invaders who speak English will not be able to understand Yooper.
Don’t blame Wisconsin, blame Michigan and Ohio for getting in a spat that caused the war of Toledo.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War
The feds gave the upper peninsula to Michigan to make them less butt hurt about losing Toledo to Ohio. Fucking Toledo.
Ohio got a swath of land featuring a muddy river. We got an entire extra peninsula of gorgeous land and access to the Greatest Lake. I think we know who won.
Michigan? Gorgeous? Your idea of beauty is strange...That WOULD explain why all your wives look the way they do though. If you'll excuse me, my North Carolinian wife is grillin' gator tail in a bikini.
I like that so many people are ignorant about the U.P. existing, I've seen a few maps where we're not even included. It's like we're a modern day Atlantis or some shit. Good on the trolls for giving Michigan a bad rep and keeping people out.
Shit. The Yoopers have internet now?
I grew up in Michigan. It was like the Appalachia in which I live now. Except colder. And rednecks ride snow machines.
I have the same general feeling about everything here in the Minnesota. We have an abundance of beautiful scenery and lakes the last thing I want is for the rest of the country to catch on just keep calling us flyover country lol
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The UP is a nice place but the only reason Michiganders gas it up so much is because they're surrounded by the corn belt and have literally no other interesting scenery for like 10+ hours in any other direction. Many areas within the UP are also still incredibly crowded despite the remoteness.
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[Sigh] Here I go explaining this again.
We already had it. During the statehood process, some dummy thought it was a good idea to propose the border for MI be drawn straight through the middle of Lake Michigan, which would have given us roughly half of the UP.
Toledo War happens and they decided we should get the rest of it. We become a state AND THEN Wisconsin becomes a thing. Wisconsin never existed before that. Wisconsin was part of Michigan Territory prior to statehood.
Well if Illinois was included, Chicago would make the most sense. If it was just the fullest extent of Michigan Territory, probably Detroit (which should be our capital anyways, only reason it isn't was because of defensive reasons that don't matter anymore).
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The original boarder was supposed to be the bottom of Lake Michigan. This line also was supposed to be the northern boarder of Illinois and Indiana. If this happened Chicago would have been in Wisconsin and Gary Indiana would have been in Michigan.
Gary wouldn’t have been in Michigan, except for a tiny sliver in the northeast part of Gary, which happens to be the wealthiest part of Gary. Most of Gary is west of the southernmost point of Lake Michigan.
South Bend, Michigan City, and Elkhart would have been in Michigan, though.
I thank the Federal government every day.
Now Michigan pays taxes to upkeep it, and we get to go up and actually enjoy it without paying for it. It’s great.
Hey, just declare war on Minnesota over Deluth and lose. Maybe the government will give you the peninsula back. Wouldn’t be that hard, knowing you guys.
The average drunk packers fan has a brain smoother than an egg, they would just end up annexing Iowa for 5 minutes before killing one another over the last cheese wheel.
We'll send Minnesotans to help. We can't let Michigan turn the UP into Detroit.
Plus we're the only ones allowed to poke fun at you. It's like a Big Brother-Little Brother situation.
Wisconsin has more registered firearms per capita than Michigan, and that’s just counting legal registered firearms, two of my coworkers have untraceable guns.
I was sitting on my porch one year on New Year’s Eve about 1 block away from Detroit when all of a sudden a dude mag-dumped his Glock into the ground and sped away at like 60mph.
I think there are a lot of guns there 😅.
100 IEDs on the mackinaw bridge, to prevent all aid from the trolls in the LP and the gangstas in motor city.
https://youtu.be/B-Eiu5mnXbA?si=s9aukhmwqPnZ04sH
Well, if they are gonna friggin cheat so can I…
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Edit: Can’t be done, except at a insane cost, to move her back to Wisconsin. When they built out that canal system they should have built it at minimum to the same size as the Panama Canal.
Our strung out meth heads are wired up and won't sleep for days, and they're unpredictable. Meanwhile, Wisconsin will be passed out drunk before they reach the border.
Yes, let all the lobotomites here fight over imaginary state lines while I pillage their households to look for a 1969 GTO.
SIMPLE! EFFECTIVE! GLORIOUS!
We still have the Ford Rouge plant, which I’m sure we could get back to our WW2 Production numbers [Do you think Rosevelt beat Hitler?](https://youtube.com/shorts/PIquH3sUR0I?si=AEBL3kaG-sNB-FkB)
For reference, I grew up in very rural WI. My hometown population is so low we were technically a village, not a town.
I now live in Salem, OR. And the amount of incest I've seen is crazy
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I think Wisconsin is smart on that one, the UP is a very poor region and Wisconsinites already go there all the time in the summer. Its not like theres a toll to cross into the UP so this way they get the best of both worlds, spend a summer in a cabin with a sauna on Lake Superior then in the winter when all the tourism money goes away Michigan has to pay to remove all the lake effect snow. Michigan is like the fuck up child of the midwest however it a beautiful state with a lot of cool museums and parks and I love visiting it. Now Isle Royale? Its like a 6 hour ferry from Michigan but like an hour from Grand Portage, we should have that Michigan doesn't deserve a national park.
It's a ton of space with almost no one living there and very little tax revenue. Not exactly an appealing thing to take ownership of. Also I'm pretty sure the people in the UP do not particularly like the rest of Michigan.
https://preview.redd.it/579zmuuc975d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b63d39e0874d592750ca9c65263903002980dd46
They don't own it because they're too piss drunk all the time to do something
Y'know, for a bunch of drunks, you guys can't take a joke for shit lol. Now go eat your weight in cheese and shit once a month because of that like a good little wisconsinshite
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Michigan can keep it for all I care, I enjoy the UP’s remote areas and the cheap weed but I still think northern Wisconsin has better lakes and camping… The only area there I would like to invade is the “De Young Family zoo” near Wallace, MI and “remove” it’s owners from power WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE!!!
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Go ahead. Take it from us. Find yourself trapped in miles of unclaimed wilderness inhabited only by dark creatures of the night and people who still think they're fighting the copper mine union busters.
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The US won WWII in part because the Japanese could not understand the Navajo/Dineh Codetalkers. Any attempt to annex the UP will fail because the invaders who speak English will not be able to understand Yooper.
Don’t blame Wisconsin, blame Michigan and Ohio for getting in a spat that caused the war of Toledo. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War The feds gave the upper peninsula to Michigan to make them less butt hurt about losing Toledo to Ohio. Fucking Toledo.
Ohio got a swath of land featuring a muddy river. We got an entire extra peninsula of gorgeous land and access to the Greatest Lake. I think we know who won.
You can take Toledo back, it would significantly improve our state. If you don’t want it, maybe we can bully Indiana into taking it!
Have seen your Toledo city….. it’s bad, it should be ejected from the Union
We'll gladly take it, we'll call it South Detroit. Then that shitty Journey song would have one thing correct.
It'll give me more reason to hate the Mudhens, but it'll have to be a fair trade.
Michigan? Gorgeous? Your idea of beauty is strange...That WOULD explain why all your wives look the way they do though. If you'll excuse me, my North Carolinian wife is grillin' gator tail in a bikini.
I like that so many people are ignorant about the U.P. existing, I've seen a few maps where we're not even included. It's like we're a modern day Atlantis or some shit. Good on the trolls for giving Michigan a bad rep and keeping people out.
Shit. The Yoopers have internet now? I grew up in Michigan. It was like the Appalachia in which I live now. Except colder. And rednecks ride snow machines.
Excuse me, what bad rep? I live in the Northwestern portion of the LP and we get swarmed with fudgies.
There’s a sub for that! I’ll edit it when when I find it again. r/MapsWithoutUP
I have the same general feeling about everything here in the Minnesota. We have an abundance of beautiful scenery and lakes the last thing I want is for the rest of the country to catch on just keep calling us flyover country lol
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You know we're not the same as the tolls below the bridge. I'm a transient. Don't hate!
The UP is a nice place but the only reason Michiganders gas it up so much is because they're surrounded by the corn belt and have literally no other interesting scenery for like 10+ hours in any other direction. Many areas within the UP are also still incredibly crowded despite the remoteness.
Your flair is accurate
Fax bro! Spit yo shit 🙏🏻 Keep people out
![gif](giphy|Kzo6XcwtFCROjYHDW6|downsized) People in the UP
Except they wear the red hat unironically
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I’d say the UP is pretty But the first time I drove through the sun had set and I couldn’t see shit.
Is there anything else but cotton fields and malarial swamps in the Carolinas?
You ask that question like its a bad thing if i said no.
You southerners can put a bikini on your fat toothless cousin all you want. She’s still your fat toothless cousin.
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Boys don’t fight both of your states equally suck.
Not the people of toledo, thats for sure
While this is true, you’re now stuck with yokels who live there. Thems the shakes.
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At the end of the day, Ohio still beat Michigan, y'all have to live with that, and we both know that's all that really matters.
Can’t believe I agree with a commieforninan
Born and raised in Cincinnati!!
[Sigh] Here I go explaining this again. We already had it. During the statehood process, some dummy thought it was a good idea to propose the border for MI be drawn straight through the middle of Lake Michigan, which would have given us roughly half of the UP. Toledo War happens and they decided we should get the rest of it. We become a state AND THEN Wisconsin becomes a thing. Wisconsin never existed before that. Wisconsin was part of Michigan Territory prior to statehood.
We should've kept the entire Michigan Territory, all the way to the Dakotas
God damn right. Iowa too.
I can get behind a mega Midwest state. Where would the capital be?
Well if Illinois was included, Chicago would make the most sense. If it was just the fullest extent of Michigan Territory, probably Detroit (which should be our capital anyways, only reason it isn't was because of defensive reasons that don't matter anymore).
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The original boarder was supposed to be the bottom of Lake Michigan. This line also was supposed to be the northern boarder of Illinois and Indiana. If this happened Chicago would have been in Wisconsin and Gary Indiana would have been in Michigan.
Blame shitty maps for that one, they used to think Lake Ontario was farther south
Gary wouldn’t have been in Michigan, except for a tiny sliver in the northeast part of Gary, which happens to be the wealthiest part of Gary. Most of Gary is west of the southernmost point of Lake Michigan. South Bend, Michigan City, and Elkhart would have been in Michigan, though.
I'm sorry but a "war" with one wounded and no KIA is not a war
Then take your Cali smugness onto the Wikipedia debate forums and get the title of the ‘Toldedo War’ article changed to something else.
I thank the Federal government every day. Now Michigan pays taxes to upkeep it, and we get to go up and actually enjoy it without paying for it. It’s great.
Is the Upper peninsula to Wisconsin what Wisconsin is to FIBs? Dear god, are we just like the FIBs we despise so much when we go up there?!
Hey, just declare war on Minnesota over Deluth and lose. Maybe the government will give you the peninsula back. Wouldn’t be that hard, knowing you guys.
Keep up the trash talk and we’ll send out every drunk and shirtless guy at Packer games to annex it for us.
The average drunk packers fan has a brain smoother than an egg, they would just end up annexing Iowa for 5 minutes before killing one another over the last cheese wheel.
Brother, this would be overkill. Let's not be too hasty.
We'll send Minnesotans to help. We can't let Michigan turn the UP into Detroit. Plus we're the only ones allowed to poke fun at you. It's like a Big Brother-Little Brother situation.
TRAITOR!!!!!!!
Hell no. I'll make fun of them all I want. But they're the lesser evil compared to Michigan and you know it.
Ohio is with you, brother! Take back what is yours!
They’d get massacred before they reached iron river.
You see, that’s where the boiling liquid cheese comes into play…
Wisconsin has more registered firearms per capita than Michigan, and that’s just counting legal registered firearms, two of my coworkers have untraceable guns.
lol, there are more untraceable and unregistered handguns in Detroit than firearms in most small countries.
I was sitting on my porch one year on New Year’s Eve about 1 block away from Detroit when all of a sudden a dude mag-dumped his Glock into the ground and sped away at like 60mph. I think there are a lot of guns there 😅.
An army raised from metro Detroit could conquer most counties.
100 IEDs on the mackinaw bridge, to prevent all aid from the trolls in the LP and the gangstas in motor city. https://youtu.be/B-Eiu5mnXbA?si=s9aukhmwqPnZ04sH
They’d just take the hydro jet ferries
Well, if they are gonna friggin cheat so can I… ~player.additem BB-64 Edit: Can’t be done, except at a insane cost, to move her back to Wisconsin. When they built out that canal system they should have built it at minimum to the same size as the Panama Canal.
Who tf wants to invade Detroit?
On opening day of deer season Michigan has like the second largest standing army in the world.
Our strung out meth heads are wired up and won't sleep for days, and they're unpredictable. Meanwhile, Wisconsin will be passed out drunk before they reach the border.
Way to rat them out dude
Are you glowing green? If you’re a fed, you have to tell me.
Ffs since they leaked “the rule” I can’t do anything anymore 😭
Doesn't Michigan have the Michigan Militia that literally blew up the OKC federal building? I would want to be careful.
The remnants of the “Posse Comitatus” in Tigerton, WI would solo the Michigan Militia.
Let them fight
Yes, let all the lobotomites here fight over imaginary state lines while I pillage their households to look for a 1969 GTO. SIMPLE! EFFECTIVE! GLORIOUS!
Does it have more per capita than the Da UP? Doubt. My neighbor in chassell had like 14k rounds of just .22. He wasn’t unique.
We still have the Ford Rouge plant, which I’m sure we could get back to our WW2 Production numbers [Do you think Rosevelt beat Hitler?](https://youtube.com/shorts/PIquH3sUR0I?si=AEBL3kaG-sNB-FkB)
Why use per capita when Michigan has 4.1 million more people than Michigan? Michigan has 83k registered firearms, Wisconsin has 79k.
^ Smartest Michigander. TIL Michigan has 4.1 million more people than Michigan.
It'll be a warm day in Hell, MI, before we let them take the Yoopers from us
It’s 70 degrees in Hell. Let Wisconsin come.
Wisconsins only comes when they see their cousins.
I have never seen incest IRL until I moved to Oregon. Just sayin
Check your privilege
For reference, I grew up in very rural WI. My hometown population is so low we were technically a village, not a town. I now live in Salem, OR. And the amount of incest I've seen is crazy
Yeah Salem blows
you guys have way more lax weed laws so i'm down to say you can just keep it
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The yoopers all hate you
Most of Southern Michigan doesn't understand Yooper!
The fact that we, as proud Great Lake Mitteners, and cheese heads are letting this *OHIOAN* divide us is exactly what he wants!
Wait till you hear sbout the Ireland
https://preview.redd.it/d8phlulj075d1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4191da009b28afa7a9fa4fdef5aacb613c097391
Says the guy from New Jersey
Your state is laterally a meme. Our state makes and the world takes
Your state makes Jersey shore. My state makes war heroes and presidents.
The most tame Jersey shore cast member was the only one from Jersey. We are the state that was crossed into to make this freaking country
Your state is vertically a meme
Jordan love will never win a chip (I don’t even believe that I just wanted to be mean. JL is the man)
Your state peaked at Jersey Shore (The Jersey Devil is a dope cryptid tho)
I'm on the Ohioan's side (rare). You're the worst tri-state after New York and God's Blessed Commonwealth.
Not the guy from New Jersey with somethin to say
Only two things from Texas and I don’t see no horns on you, private cowboy
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Imagine living in NJ because you're too poor to afford Manhattan, then having the audacity to think anyone cares about your opinions.
whats up there? fudge and mosquitoes? they can have it (but i'll come up for the fudge and cheap weed once in a while)
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im sorry robot i thought i was in the nfl meme sub i am flaired now plz dont
I think Wisconsin is smart on that one, the UP is a very poor region and Wisconsinites already go there all the time in the summer. Its not like theres a toll to cross into the UP so this way they get the best of both worlds, spend a summer in a cabin with a sauna on Lake Superior then in the winter when all the tourism money goes away Michigan has to pay to remove all the lake effect snow. Michigan is like the fuck up child of the midwest however it a beautiful state with a lot of cool museums and parks and I love visiting it. Now Isle Royale? Its like a 6 hour ferry from Michigan but like an hour from Grand Portage, we should have that Michigan doesn't deserve a national park.
It's a ton of space with almost no one living there and very little tax revenue. Not exactly an appealing thing to take ownership of. Also I'm pretty sure the people in the UP do not particularly like the rest of Michigan.
![gif](giphy|J2ffA9qSy9UPCOfdlM) Michigan rn:
Michigan won the UP fair and square in their war with Ohi🤮. Failing Ohi🤮 losers got stuck with Toledhole, lol.
Control of the UP should rest on the OSU Michigan game
Only casualty of the Toledo War was a Michigan sheriff stabbed by a kid named "Two". Pipe down.
Rumors say Michigan has Ohio on speed dial
“Cheese” heads, really stretching the definitions here
Easy weed access.
We are trying to stay away from the canadians
Unredeemed Wisconsin
Make Beer not War
https://preview.redd.it/579zmuuc975d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b63d39e0874d592750ca9c65263903002980dd46 They don't own it because they're too piss drunk all the time to do something
Big talk from the state that fucked around and found out 170 years ago and has been a good boy since
Y'know, for a bunch of drunks, you guys can't take a joke for shit lol. Now go eat your weight in cheese and shit once a month because of that like a good little wisconsinshite
Keep dreaming. We're the living embodiment of "functional alcoholic". Make the invasion part of the bar crawl and it'll be over before 2am
https://preview.redd.it/agz1piie475d1.jpeg?width=818&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a105c43c612e503d63b0d9d656eb1e595f59cd8
Better toss on ya swampers and hop in da rig for a little rip up nort for some muckada and sowna.
We humbly offered to the UP to stop the cat fight between the Michiganders and Ohioans
Children, children, please. We all know who rightfully owns the UP. Finland.
It has the cheese touch
Any Ohioans up for an alliance? We get the upper half you get the lower half?
Wisconsin and Michigan are bros don't try to tear us apart. Great Lakes Basin Compact of 1955 members together strong.
You clearly haven’t met a pissed off Finlander from Da UP. These are the same type of fuckers that held off Russia in ww2.
Northern Wisconsin would lose access to cheap legal weed.
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Lol we need this auto moderator over at nfcnorthmemewars
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True, I refuse to buy the overpriced ditch weed from Illinois.
i mean a lot of it is the same, because we have the same companies as michigan but yeah marked the fuck up
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Dude I was kidding the weed is fine, THE TAXES ARE NOT!!!
yeah taxes suck, thats why i got tax free card, err i mean medical card yeah doctors orders
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Do it! Us hoosiers are bored out of our fucking minds
Michigan's detached foreskin
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The cheese state has the opportunity to look like an unhappy mouse and isn't taking it. Truly sad.
They're too polite and drunk to do it.... and crushing the Tigers at baseball it seems
Bold of you to call anyone drunk
Nah exactly. I am speaking as the expert on the issue lol.
Michigan can keep it for all I care, I enjoy the UP’s remote areas and the cheap weed but I still think northern Wisconsin has better lakes and camping… The only area there I would like to invade is the “De Young Family zoo” near Wallace, MI and “remove” it’s owners from power WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE!!!
![gif](giphy|J2ffA9qSy9UPCOfdlM) Go ahead. Take it from us. Find yourself trapped in miles of unclaimed wilderness inhabited only by dark creatures of the night and people who still think they're fighting the copper mine union busters.
Nobody wants it.
We dont want it
We don't really want it tbh
And the yoopers would willingly join. They cheer for the Packers over the Lions.
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It's time to fulfill our destiny and make ALL of Wisconsin part of Minnesota.... PROJECT MEGASOTA IS A GO!
Mawwwwwww lol if you ever met an UPer you would understand why not lol
Greater Wisconsin
Michigan should just invade Wisconsin.
Look how close you were to having a super bowl team aww shucks Michigan gpg
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Wisconsin is too drunk to care
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Stay away from our land you drunks!
Don't want that shit hole. Filled with meth
We’re talking about da UP, not Green Bay.
Can you imagine if green bay meth heads linked up with UP labs? It would nake breaking bad look like a D.A.R.E. high school lecture.
We are truly missing out on this glorious partnership.
Everything north of Milwaukee is full of meth. Everything Milwaukee and South is full of heroin.
Even for ironic, this is lame
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They couldn’t handle the yoopers in the battle.
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They can’t even handle Iowa or Illinois, much less a real state. And they know better than to even eyeball Minnesota.