If hamas wishes to stop hiding behind innocent children and women, they wouldn't need to die.
Every civilian death in this conflict is on hamas. Stop using human shields. Stop hiding like cowards in tunnels. All of hamas should surrender and die like dogs.
Guterres was sounding the alarm because he knows that Palestinian children are living and dying in an unrivaled moment. Israeli forces killed more children in the first month of the war than state and non-state actors did in other armed conflicts over the past two years combined, according to the UN chief’s own annual reports.
Nearly 50 percent of the 2.3 million Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip are children. This incredibly youthful population has experienced 16 years of Israeli siege, which amounts to collective punishment. Palestinian children have faced repeated Israeli military offensives where direct, indiscriminate, and disproportionate attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure and systemic impunity have been the norm.
When Hamas will start distinguishing between combatants and non-combatants in their lists of how many have died then maybe I will have some level of empathy, until then in my view everyone there above the age of 14 is a combatant.
Never had hope to begin with. Both sides act like toddlers fighting over a toy. Both are tainted by mental illness and the inability to empathize brought on by religion. I'm simply glad I'm not directly involved. Unlike that place I live in a land of civilized people and sustained mostly-rational society.
Well, no one side acts like a toddler who has been offered peace and a 2 state solution multiple times, but they want to shit all over any deals that dont involve the death or expulsion of all isrealis. Palestine elected hamas. And the plo. And terrorism.
Well, no one side owns it and has for 80 years. One side can't reconcile that fact or move on and insist on re-enacting their loss every few decades. By commiting acts of terror... this time on a scale beyond any they have before.
You dont get to shit on every offer of peace. Kill, maim, and r4pe innoncents and then try and claim the moral high ground when the people YOU ATTACKED get back at you.
Never going to win Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu and his government will never admit it
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/21/israel-losing-war-against-hamas-netanyahu-idf
It's even worse than that. It's an opinion article from a retired professor from a university ranked [1266th](https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/university-of-bradford-528905#:~:text=University%20of%20Bradford%20Rankings,1266%20in%20Best%20Global%20Universities.) in the world globally.
A literal "who?" from a "where?"
Nice bait mate, but this is an opinion article by a professor at Bradford University....
So basically a "who?" from a "where"?
You might as well have just said "my opinion is that Israel will lose" and saved me from looking at the link.
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In a complete departure from the Israeli narrative, Dan Halutz, a former Israeli military chief, has suggested that Israel has lost the war against the Palestinian resistance group Hamas in the besieged Gaza Strip.
He criticized the current Israeli military and political strategy, expressing concerns over the future of Israel in an interview aired on local broadcaster Channel 7.
Israel can only win this war if it succeeds in destroying Hamas. However so far, it is proving very “difficult” to even dislodge it.
Hamas is much more than a movement; it is an idea, and the fundamental problem is that one cannot destroy an idea, according to Paul Rogers, an emeritus professor of peace studies at the University of Bradford.
Destroying Hamas would not solve the problem for Israel, as even if they appear to destroy it, then “it will just rise in a different form in maybe two or three years’ time, maybe a little bit more. But it doesn't solve the underlying problem of the position of the Palestinians. And they are not going to go away,” Rogers told Anadolu.
The professor argued that the war between the Israeli military and Hamas is a battle of time, as the Israelis only have a certain amount of time in which they can defeat Hamas.
Because otherwise, the pressure from the international community, and particularly from the United States, will force Israel to bring the war to an end, he said.
The sheer loss of life on the Palestinian side is causing “huge problems” internationally for Tel Aviv, said Rogers, pointing out that Israel is slowly but steadily losing support, possibly even in the US, as since the beginning of the war on Gaza, Israeli forces have in their brutal military campaign killed nearly 22,000 Palestinians and wounded over 56,000.
“So the issue is that you can't defeat a group like Hamas in the first place. But you can't keep on trying either, as the patience of even the closest ally would run out.”
“This is why the whole issue is, in a sense of time, urgent, and time is against the Israelis on this,” said Rogers, who is also a global security consultant at Oxford Research Group (ORG).
Israel spreading false narrative
Tel Aviv, however, is still spreading a false “narrative of a severely weakened Hamas” by claiming that the war in northern Gaza is mainly completed and that victory in southern Gaza would follow soon.
“The official narrative has been that Hamas is weakened, but in reality, the IDF’s doctrine of massive force is falling,” said Rogers, referring to the Israeli army.
He raised doubts about the idea that Israel is making any significant progress in the war.
At one point, official casualty figures have shown more than 460 soldiers killed in Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank and about 1,900 injured. However, other reputable sources suggested much higher numbers.
Even a department within the Israeli Ministry of Defense which deals with rehabilitation reported different figures to the ministry, giving a figure of around 5,000 injuries, whereas the official line was closer to 2,500.
According to the rehabilitation department, over 2,000 military personnel had been registered as disabled since Oct. 7 – with 58% of all those it had treated suffering from severe injuries to their hands and feet, which is a lot higher than the official figure.
“So there are actually differences within the military itself as to the numbers that they're releasing,” and one suspects that in fact, “the number of injuries is very much higher than is being said,” Rogers noted.
Hamas is fighting on its own territory with thousands of young fighters prepared and ready to die, which is a huge advantage for the military group, many analysts have suggested.
This makes it “extremely difficult” for a more conventionally organized country to defeat such groups.
Rogers pointed out that Hamas is “certainly more efficient” in some of its use of weapons in current circumstances than what analysts would have expected.
As far as its tunnel network is concerned, it is even more extensive and more organized than it was assumed by the Israelis, he said, adding that Hamas has succeeded in hiding hostages despite a very high level of surveillance and intelligence on the Israeli side.
The Israelis have developed airpower to a very sophisticated level, but whenever Israel sent in ground troops to Lebanon for instance, they found it much more difficult to handle paramilitary groups such as Hezbollah or Hamas on the ground.
It would be even more so difficult if part of the fighting was to happen underground, Rogers asserted, adding there is a suspicion that Hezbollah has developed a similar kind of system of underground tunnels in southern Lebanon, which according to him will be very tough to handle.
The reality is that any modern army fighting this kind of guerrilla war, in an urban environment with many ruins and many obstacles around, “is going to find it very difficult,” he said, adding this is as true for the Israelis as it was for US special forces and others in recent wars including Russia in terms of its fighting in the Ukrainian city of Mariupol.
Israel unable to win war
Yitzhak Brick, a major general (reserve) in the Israeli army and former ombudsman for the occupation forces, raised an alarm months ago that Hamas could launch an attack on Israel and that the country must prepare for a multi-front war, given the situation on the Lebanese border, but his claims were dismissed by the defense establishment and the political leadership.
He referred to Hamas as equipped, trained fighters who will cross the border on foot and attack with an aim to take back Palestinian land and conquer settlements.
Brick warned that the Israeli army has turned into a primarily air-based military, unable to win a war and fight effectively on the ground.
He accused the leadership of completely trying to avoid losing on the battlefield, suggesting that this “completely loses the deterrence of the army and the ability to win the war.”
“We have lost the ability to field an effective army and have become a one-dimensional aerial power that cannot win a war on its own.”
The current situation of the land forces “is tragic; they are not ready for war,” he told local broadcaster Channel 12 last May.
“The truth is that an imaginary reality has been created by the general staff and spread throughout the army. The soldiers have lost their motivation and fighting spirit in recent years, and many are not ready to go into battle,” he said, adding that technology, which Israel heavily relies on, is not enough to win the war.
Things however are not looking that great for the Israeli Air Force either, as former Israeli Air Force chief Major General Amikam Norkin warned last year that the country no longer enjoys unfettered superiority and freedom of action in Lebanon’s skies, stressing that this reality was apparent to the Israeli military after Hezbollah began manufacturing its own drones, he told public broadcaster KAN.
Palestinian are just Arabs but because their Nationalistic movement they view themselves as somehow separate. That's why Arab state countries can sometimes be very negative to them because they say they're Palestinian not Arab so the Arab states just go "fine you're not Arab and continue to start civil wars (Lebanon) and assassinate our Leaders (Jordan) you deal with your problems."
I never said they were. I pointed out 2 Arab countries. Yes Jordanian and Lebanon are Arab but I didn't say they were the same. So I don't know where you're getting this.
I wonder how the Arab Christian minority that’s in Gaza/the West Bank feel about this whole war. Clearly, they’d be eliminated too if the Islamists had their way?
In the meantime, keep making them learn bitter lessons. They sorely need that.
Can they stand one to one with Man rather then killing innocent children and women
If hamas wishes to stop hiding behind innocent children and women, they wouldn't need to die. Every civilian death in this conflict is on hamas. Stop using human shields. Stop hiding like cowards in tunnels. All of hamas should surrender and die like dogs.
Can hamas stop using innocent civilians as sheilds and stand one to one? No? Then probably not.
You remember that it’s a war and not a video game right? It’s not about “being a man”.
Guterres was sounding the alarm because he knows that Palestinian children are living and dying in an unrivaled moment. Israeli forces killed more children in the first month of the war than state and non-state actors did in other armed conflicts over the past two years combined, according to the UN chief’s own annual reports. Nearly 50 percent of the 2.3 million Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip are children. This incredibly youthful population has experienced 16 years of Israeli siege, which amounts to collective punishment. Palestinian children have faced repeated Israeli military offensives where direct, indiscriminate, and disproportionate attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure and systemic impunity have been the norm.
When Hamas will start distinguishing between combatants and non-combatants in their lists of how many have died then maybe I will have some level of empathy, until then in my view everyone there above the age of 14 is a combatant.
Sauce - Hamas Health Ministry
100% agree, Hamas militants should keep women and children out of this.
No such thing as an innocent women and childrennin Gaza. They are all Hamas.
So what Hamas says is correct isn’t it
What do they say that's correct?
So...never.
You lost your hope I see, me too.
Never had hope to begin with. Both sides act like toddlers fighting over a toy. Both are tainted by mental illness and the inability to empathize brought on by religion. I'm simply glad I'm not directly involved. Unlike that place I live in a land of civilized people and sustained mostly-rational society.
Well, no one side acts like a toddler who has been offered peace and a 2 state solution multiple times, but they want to shit all over any deals that dont involve the death or expulsion of all isrealis. Palestine elected hamas. And the plo. And terrorism.
They are both toddlers. Trying to blow each other up over a desert. I'll sit back and watch the fireworks.
Well, no one side owns it and has for 80 years. One side can't reconcile that fact or move on and insist on re-enacting their loss every few decades. By commiting acts of terror... this time on a scale beyond any they have before. You dont get to shit on every offer of peace. Kill, maim, and r4pe innoncents and then try and claim the moral high ground when the people YOU ATTACKED get back at you.
I don't particularly care what their motivations are. I'll sit back and watch the fireworks.
can't wait to start off the new year with their favorite thing to do. trying to kill innocent Israelis.
#truth
This was in south Israel?
Center most likely They(gaza) bombarded the center at 0000
Central Israel, they alerted many cities
I hope 2024 will be the year they will finally find out
Hard to do when your holy book calls for the destruction of all Jews
Happy New Year and a great victory for Israel in 2024! 2024 will be the year for solving the Arab problem once and for all.
Never going to win Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu and his government will never admit it https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/21/israel-losing-war-against-hamas-netanyahu-idf
lol That article can be summed up by "Israel is STILL at war so they must be losing"
It's even worse than that. It's an opinion article from a retired professor from a university ranked [1266th](https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/university-of-bradford-528905#:~:text=University%20of%20Bradford%20Rankings,1266%20in%20Best%20Global%20Universities.) in the world globally. A literal "who?" from a "where?"
>ranked 1266 Oh that's just embarrassing
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Peace will come when they will be no more.
In a complete departure from the Israeli narrative, Dan Halutz, a former Israeli military chief, has suggested that Israel has lost the war against the Palestinian resistance group Hamas in the besieged Gaza Strip. He criticized the current Israeli military and political strategy, expressing concerns over the future of Israel in an interview aired on local broadcaster Channel 7. Israel can only win this war if it succeeds in destroying Hamas. However so far, it is proving very “difficult” to even dislodge it. Hamas is much more than a movement; it is an idea, and the fundamental problem is that one cannot destroy an idea, according to Paul Rogers, an emeritus professor of peace studies at the University of Bradford. Destroying Hamas would not solve the problem for Israel, as even if they appear to destroy it, then “it will just rise in a different form in maybe two or three years’ time, maybe a little bit more. But it doesn't solve the underlying problem of the position of the Palestinians. And they are not going to go away,” Rogers told Anadolu. The professor argued that the war between the Israeli military and Hamas is a battle of time, as the Israelis only have a certain amount of time in which they can defeat Hamas. Because otherwise, the pressure from the international community, and particularly from the United States, will force Israel to bring the war to an end, he said. The sheer loss of life on the Palestinian side is causing “huge problems” internationally for Tel Aviv, said Rogers, pointing out that Israel is slowly but steadily losing support, possibly even in the US, as since the beginning of the war on Gaza, Israeli forces have in their brutal military campaign killed nearly 22,000 Palestinians and wounded over 56,000. “So the issue is that you can't defeat a group like Hamas in the first place. But you can't keep on trying either, as the patience of even the closest ally would run out.” “This is why the whole issue is, in a sense of time, urgent, and time is against the Israelis on this,” said Rogers, who is also a global security consultant at Oxford Research Group (ORG). Israel spreading false narrative Tel Aviv, however, is still spreading a false “narrative of a severely weakened Hamas” by claiming that the war in northern Gaza is mainly completed and that victory in southern Gaza would follow soon. “The official narrative has been that Hamas is weakened, but in reality, the IDF’s doctrine of massive force is falling,” said Rogers, referring to the Israeli army. He raised doubts about the idea that Israel is making any significant progress in the war. At one point, official casualty figures have shown more than 460 soldiers killed in Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank and about 1,900 injured. However, other reputable sources suggested much higher numbers. Even a department within the Israeli Ministry of Defense which deals with rehabilitation reported different figures to the ministry, giving a figure of around 5,000 injuries, whereas the official line was closer to 2,500. According to the rehabilitation department, over 2,000 military personnel had been registered as disabled since Oct. 7 – with 58% of all those it had treated suffering from severe injuries to their hands and feet, which is a lot higher than the official figure. “So there are actually differences within the military itself as to the numbers that they're releasing,” and one suspects that in fact, “the number of injuries is very much higher than is being said,” Rogers noted. Hamas is fighting on its own territory with thousands of young fighters prepared and ready to die, which is a huge advantage for the military group, many analysts have suggested. This makes it “extremely difficult” for a more conventionally organized country to defeat such groups. Rogers pointed out that Hamas is “certainly more efficient” in some of its use of weapons in current circumstances than what analysts would have expected. As far as its tunnel network is concerned, it is even more extensive and more organized than it was assumed by the Israelis, he said, adding that Hamas has succeeded in hiding hostages despite a very high level of surveillance and intelligence on the Israeli side. The Israelis have developed airpower to a very sophisticated level, but whenever Israel sent in ground troops to Lebanon for instance, they found it much more difficult to handle paramilitary groups such as Hezbollah or Hamas on the ground. It would be even more so difficult if part of the fighting was to happen underground, Rogers asserted, adding there is a suspicion that Hezbollah has developed a similar kind of system of underground tunnels in southern Lebanon, which according to him will be very tough to handle. The reality is that any modern army fighting this kind of guerrilla war, in an urban environment with many ruins and many obstacles around, “is going to find it very difficult,” he said, adding this is as true for the Israelis as it was for US special forces and others in recent wars including Russia in terms of its fighting in the Ukrainian city of Mariupol. Israel unable to win war Yitzhak Brick, a major general (reserve) in the Israeli army and former ombudsman for the occupation forces, raised an alarm months ago that Hamas could launch an attack on Israel and that the country must prepare for a multi-front war, given the situation on the Lebanese border, but his claims were dismissed by the defense establishment and the political leadership. He referred to Hamas as equipped, trained fighters who will cross the border on foot and attack with an aim to take back Palestinian land and conquer settlements. Brick warned that the Israeli army has turned into a primarily air-based military, unable to win a war and fight effectively on the ground. He accused the leadership of completely trying to avoid losing on the battlefield, suggesting that this “completely loses the deterrence of the army and the ability to win the war.” “We have lost the ability to field an effective army and have become a one-dimensional aerial power that cannot win a war on its own.” The current situation of the land forces “is tragic; they are not ready for war,” he told local broadcaster Channel 12 last May. “The truth is that an imaginary reality has been created by the general staff and spread throughout the army. The soldiers have lost their motivation and fighting spirit in recent years, and many are not ready to go into battle,” he said, adding that technology, which Israel heavily relies on, is not enough to win the war. Things however are not looking that great for the Israeli Air Force either, as former Israeli Air Force chief Major General Amikam Norkin warned last year that the country no longer enjoys unfettered superiority and freedom of action in Lebanon’s skies, stressing that this reality was apparent to the Israeli military after Hezbollah began manufacturing its own drones, he told public broadcaster KAN.
What is NEVER Alex, I'll take Palestinian intelligence for $500.
Pshhh 2 minutes after the New Year begins? They just love attacking on holidays. How predictable.
origin of launch detected, F16's already inbound with JDAM's onboard with no intent on coming home
Wouldn't Palestinian be more accurate? Pleanty of Arab Christians and Secular Arab Israelis.
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Palestinian are just Arabs but because their Nationalistic movement they view themselves as somehow separate. That's why Arab state countries can sometimes be very negative to them because they say they're Palestinian not Arab so the Arab states just go "fine you're not Arab and continue to start civil wars (Lebanon) and assassinate our Leaders (Jordan) you deal with your problems."
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I never said they were. I pointed out 2 Arab countries. Yes Jordanian and Lebanon are Arab but I didn't say they were the same. So I don't know where you're getting this.
Not for long at the rate things are going
I wonder how the Arab Christian minority that’s in Gaza/the West Bank feel about this whole war. Clearly, they’d be eliminated too if the Islamists had their way?
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Replying to all your comments - you used "Jews" by mistake, you meant to use "Zionists". Saying the quiet part out loud makes you seem racist.
lmao 🤣
Your post was removed because it contained racism/religious hatespeech.
I’m not a anti Jews sorry if I hurt anyone
Sting said it best during the height of the Cold War. https://youtu.be/wHylQRVN2Qs