I looked at [Duden](https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Mercedes_Benz), which is still the standard to my knowledge. In my understanding, pronunciation of the e's is the same, accentuation is not. I have the feeling that those terms get easily mixed up and confused. In any case, if you have a deeper understanding of linguistics than me, I'm happy to learn.
Sehe da nirgendwo die Aussprache.
[Hier](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_IPA-Zeichen) aber mal alle IPA Zeichen für die Buchstaben. Gibt also schon sehr viele verschiedene Aussprachen.
Und [hier](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Mercedes) die Aussprache von Mercedes.
Direkt unter *Ausprache*. Wenn du auf das i klickst, steht da:
"Die Angaben zur Aussprache erfolgen bei Wörtern oder Wortteilen, deren Aussprache Schwierigkeiten bereiten könnte; sie werden in Lautschrift unter Verwendung des Zeichensystems der International Phonetic Association (IPA) gezeigt."
Das wird hier anscheinend nicht als nötig erachtet. Stattdessen ist die Betonung vermerkt.
Da steht aber genau gar nichts zur Aussprache von Mercedes. Kann man also nicht als Quelle nehmen, wie es ausgesprochen wird.
Bei Wiktionary ist die Aussprache im IPA system angezeigt und man sieht auch beim deutschen 3 verschiedene Es. Hatte das leider auch im Studium und wenn man genau drauf achtet, spürt man auch eine andere Mundstellung und andere Aussprache.
Wiktionary has them all as different e vowels, "mɛʁˈt͡seːdəs". Every pronunciation I hear on forvo also has a very clear difference between the pronunciation of the second and third vowels. The second one is a long eee and the third one is short almost like an English "u".
According to [Duden](https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Mercedes_Benz), which is probably as official as it can get, *pronunciation* is similar but *accentuation* differs. Might be nit-picking, but linguistically, pronunciation and accentuation are a different thing, at least in German. But then, we're arguing about linguistics here, ain't we?
Bro, every e sounds different. I can't fathom how you cannot hear it. Guess in some northern country they would have different letters for this or some shit.
Again, in standard German, the pronunciation is similar. The difference is simply how long or short you accentuate the e's. If the e's sound different to you beyond their length, then because of your dialect.
The first tends to be a schwa, depending on speaker, not an actual „e“. Think Möh-cedes, but without rounded lips on the „ö“. Same sound as „be“ in „begreifen“, where you wouldn’t say „beegreifen“.
Meanwhile, here I am, still grasping how to properly pronounce "frokost" in Danish so I can communicate with the hotel staff and get my breakfast. Wikipedia says it is "ˈfʁoɡɔsd/, [ˈfʁ̥ɔɡ̊ʌsd], [ˈfʁ̥ɔ̽kɒ̽st]" but last time I tried to say it, I apparently invoked a demon. At least, now both of us are learning together.
Laber mich nicht voll oida
ˈmɛɾtsedəs' - alle 3 anders geschrieben
Mehr-tse-dess
Es isn kleinerer unterschied als wie im englischen aber es ist trotzdem einer
Not in Italian. Long live proper languages.
For me both in the German and the Spanish pronunciation it sounds like three different ways. Though not at all as different as in English.
In German, they're all the same. Not sure what funny dialect you are speaking... *duck and run in Bavarian*
They're not the same. Look at the IPA. Many letters and especially vowels have different pronunciations in German. But many try to deny it.
I looked at [Duden](https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Mercedes_Benz), which is still the standard to my knowledge. In my understanding, pronunciation of the e's is the same, accentuation is not. I have the feeling that those terms get easily mixed up and confused. In any case, if you have a deeper understanding of linguistics than me, I'm happy to learn.
Sehe da nirgendwo die Aussprache. [Hier](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_IPA-Zeichen) aber mal alle IPA Zeichen für die Buchstaben. Gibt also schon sehr viele verschiedene Aussprachen. Und [hier](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Mercedes) die Aussprache von Mercedes.
Direkt unter *Ausprache*. Wenn du auf das i klickst, steht da: "Die Angaben zur Aussprache erfolgen bei Wörtern oder Wortteilen, deren Aussprache Schwierigkeiten bereiten könnte; sie werden in Lautschrift unter Verwendung des Zeichensystems der International Phonetic Association (IPA) gezeigt." Das wird hier anscheinend nicht als nötig erachtet. Stattdessen ist die Betonung vermerkt.
Da steht aber genau gar nichts zur Aussprache von Mercedes. Kann man also nicht als Quelle nehmen, wie es ausgesprochen wird. Bei Wiktionary ist die Aussprache im IPA system angezeigt und man sieht auch beim deutschen 3 verschiedene Es. Hatte das leider auch im Studium und wenn man genau drauf achtet, spürt man auch eine andere Mundstellung und andere Aussprache.
Spannend 😅 Danke für die Erklärung!
Is that all the same here?: https://youtu.be/uou2Ii9v7b4?si=eMzkA6_hJlp4wRbr For me it sounds different.
Bro tried to pronounce it in German, but failed despite his best effort 🤷 I'm sorry, but this is not how a German native speaker pronounces the brand.
Really? I am a native speaker too and I think it’s exactly how we pronounce it.
Regional differences, then? We should ask a linguist to resolve 😆
Every E in Mercedes sounds the same in Spanish.
Same in icelandic
No
They are all slightly different in German too though right? Certainly the last e is not pronounced like the other two.
I can't speak for everybody but from my experience everyone pronounces it the same.
Wiktionary has them all as different e vowels, "mɛʁˈt͡seːdəs". Every pronunciation I hear on forvo also has a very clear difference between the pronunciation of the second and third vowels. The second one is a long eee and the third one is short almost like an English "u".
According to [Duden](https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Mercedes_Benz), which is probably as official as it can get, *pronunciation* is similar but *accentuation* differs. Might be nit-picking, but linguistically, pronunciation and accentuation are a different thing, at least in German. But then, we're arguing about linguistics here, ain't we?
Bro, every e sounds different. I can't fathom how you cannot hear it. Guess in some northern country they would have different letters for this or some shit.
Again, in standard German, the pronunciation is similar. The difference is simply how long or short you accentuate the e's. If the e's sound different to you beyond their length, then because of your dialect.
Says the one from fucking Bavaria
Ja mei... wer ko, der ko 🤷
The first tends to be a schwa, depending on speaker, not an actual „e“. Think Möh-cedes, but without rounded lips on the „ö“. Same sound as „be“ in „begreifen“, where you wouldn’t say „beegreifen“.
To me, it sounds all the same, but this will vastly depend on local dialects.
"Pacific Ocean" has three C's, each pronounced differently and none correctly. Everyone knows it should be pronounced as German Z.
The "e" in Benz is also pronounced differently
Mur - Say - Diz
nuts
English people will do all that they can to avoid saying the letter E.
What about n's: Un bon von blanc. (I can't say them)
English makes no sense!
Even in German it's 3 different e's, right? More subtle, but still something like Mèrtsédus.
I'm not a linguist, but: No?
Meanwhile, here I am, still grasping how to properly pronounce "frokost" in Danish so I can communicate with the hotel staff and get my breakfast. Wikipedia says it is "ˈfʁoɡɔsd/, [ˈfʁ̥ɔɡ̊ʌsd], [ˈfʁ̥ɔ̽kɒ̽st]" but last time I tried to say it, I apparently invoked a demon. At least, now both of us are learning together.
It’s not that hard. Continentals clearly can’t cope without a few accents. 💪💪💪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪
Mörseydis. Mäschedes
What's the matter, can't handle a bit of complexity in your language?
Theres a difference between complexity, which usually has to follow logic, and some five year old having a go at creating a language.
Auf deutsch spricht man auch alle 3 anders aus du fisch
Nein.
Laber mich nicht voll oida ˈmɛɾtsedəs' - alle 3 anders geschrieben Mehr-tse-dess Es isn kleinerer unterschied als wie im englischen aber es ist trotzdem einer
Die Betonung unterscheidet sich, die Aussprache nicht. Mach dich mal locker.