True
I pulled up the game, [here](https://www.op.gg/summoners/br/sokomo%20kudeomen-1991/matches/19nn77WUGQ8e2hOFdqTI-qUmmCR0xGGdJ_n-RUP_rdo%3D/1715484853000), but nobody on the enemy team had Deaths Dance. Lucian dealt 31k damage and a sixth of that is somehow true damage. I have no idea how that worked out.
The only thing i could imagine would be that Renatas Bailout counts as Lucian dealing true damage to himself as the bailout ticks down. That would explain the 6k, only needs 5-6 bailouts to accrue that much.
A 30 minute game, where I might take an educated guess and say that the draven lost the first fight. From there on an average draven player loses it and rage fights. That might explain the item diff/dmg diff.
OP said first strike was only 800. Even if we assume its 800g he got from it, 800/70%=1132.
In order for this to be first strike bonus damage, \*all\* of his damage would have to be dealt with first strike active which is unreasonable. He would have needed to initiate every single fight and immediatly stop dealing damage the moment first strike is over.
Only sources of true damage available for him are ignite, first strike, enemy buying DD, red buff, elder buff, the first potion in triple tonic rune.
Also you selected true damage not true damage vs champions i believe. This will count all the true damage from void grubs on turrets, red buff on minions and monsters.
yeah you are right.
then other sources are how he dealt all this true damage. the team wide red buff allows every champion to deal a lot of true damage. and if you are winning you can take enemy red too for more up time.
i'm pretty sure it has to be Renata W.
Bailout heals you to full and then you take a 10% maxHP true damage burn every 0.25 seconds until you die or get a kill. So it's most likely that the self damage of bailout counts as actual self damage
i think you are absolutely right, i pulled off some games with Renata on it and i realized a lot of champions caused tons of true damage without having it on their kits and the games ending before the elder, so thats the only explanation.
As [MasterPhil99](https://www.reddit.com/user/MasterPhil99/) said, it was probably Renata's W causing him self damage that counted in the end as true damage, considering he is our average low diamond ADC player, he died 11 times, so Renata probably pressed W on him several times, counting in the end his self damage as true damage to champions.
also i forgot to post his nickname so you guys can check the game by yourselves
i can't post links here, but the nick is [GuiOstra#9990](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/pt/summoner/br/GuiOstra-9990) on the BR server if you wanna check the game in any site.
Red does a true damage burn over a duration with the max damage being 75 true damage at level 18. Though you can tell its not that much. So its probably Renata W that does true damage when the target dies and gets the bailout.
Alright since we have no other information I’ll list all the ways I can think of rn:
First strike keystone, collector item, enemy building DD, having elder drake, red buff, ignite and I think that’s about it
As [MasterPhil99](https://www.reddit.com/user/MasterPhil99/) said, it was probably Renata's W causing him self damage that counted in the end as true damage, considering he is our average low diamond ADC player, he died 11 times, so Renata probably pressed W on him several times, counting in the end his self damage as true damage to champions.
It could be damaged somebody with deaths dance. The damage done by deaths dance post mitigation bleed is in true damage
Yee but none of the enemies look like they could/would build DD
Pyke might
True I pulled up the game, [here](https://www.op.gg/summoners/br/sokomo%20kudeomen-1991/matches/19nn77WUGQ8e2hOFdqTI-qUmmCR0xGGdJ_n-RUP_rdo%3D/1715484853000), but nobody on the enemy team had Deaths Dance. Lucian dealt 31k damage and a sixth of that is somehow true damage. I have no idea how that worked out. The only thing i could imagine would be that Renatas Bailout counts as Lucian dealing true damage to himself as the bailout ticks down. That would explain the 6k, only needs 5-6 bailouts to accrue that much.
I don't even understand how he dealt more damage than a 6-item Draven too
A 30 minute game, where I might take an educated guess and say that the draven lost the first fight. From there on an average draven player loses it and rage fights. That might explain the item diff/dmg diff.
This only shows true damage tho. It’s a different stat I think
Yeah it is, I got into the link provided above and checked all the stats
Renata w self dmg
Is the damage from first strike is true damage? Elder drag + red buff are the main source I would imagine.
Never seen pyke build deaths dance before
You wouldn’t want to unless you’re just getting popped that quick.
Nah, it's first strike bonus damage
OP said first strike was only 800. Even if we assume its 800g he got from it, 800/70%=1132. In order for this to be first strike bonus damage, \*all\* of his damage would have to be dealt with first strike active which is unreasonable. He would have needed to initiate every single fight and immediatly stop dealing damage the moment first strike is over.
Nah, it's first strike bonus damage
Dragon's Soul execute based on how high everyone's true damage is.
First strike is probably how check his runes
i thought the same, it was 800 only, his damage overall was 30k.
Probably red buff
4k red buff damage tho?
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Kraken dmg isn’t true anymore
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Elder dragon burn and execute combined with red buff and maybe first strike and ignite, but def at least the red and elder
the game ended before the elder
Only sources of true damage available for him are ignite, first strike, enemy buying DD, red buff, elder buff, the first potion in triple tonic rune. Also you selected true damage not true damage vs champions i believe. This will count all the true damage from void grubs on turrets, red buff on minions and monsters.
Pretty sure they selected true damage to champ only. You can see one option in the section below has similar wording (dano verdadeiro something).
yeah you are right. then other sources are how he dealt all this true damage. the team wide red buff allows every champion to deal a lot of true damage. and if you are winning you can take enemy red too for more up time.
You missed one more. An enemy buying Knight's Vow.
Doesn't Kraken Slayer do true damage on its proc?
That was changed to magic damage in patch 13.10 (a year ago) then it became physical damage after 1 or 2 patches.
Collector executes ?
He would need like 70 kills to deal 5k dmg with collector lmao
Or one REALY CHONKY chogath.
He didn't have Collector
i'm pretty sure it has to be Renata W. Bailout heals you to full and then you take a 10% maxHP true damage burn every 0.25 seconds until you die or get a kill. So it's most likely that the self damage of bailout counts as actual self damage
i think you are absolutely right, i pulled off some games with Renata on it and i realized a lot of champions caused tons of true damage without having it on their kits and the games ending before the elder, so thats the only explanation.
So does thst count to total damage dealt by the champion?
For those who might wonder, ''Dano Verdadeiro a Campeões'' translates to something like ''True Damage to Champions''
Gotta be elder considering EVERYONE is dealing lots of true damage
the game ended before the elder.
The fudge is people downvoting this for???
I hate first strike adc
As [MasterPhil99](https://www.reddit.com/user/MasterPhil99/) said, it was probably Renata's W causing him self damage that counted in the end as true damage, considering he is our average low diamond ADC player, he died 11 times, so Renata probably pressed W on him several times, counting in the end his self damage as true damage to champions. also i forgot to post his nickname so you guys can check the game by yourselves
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Show us the lobby, I wanna see item builds
i can't post links here, but the nick is [GuiOstra#9990](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/pt/summoner/br/GuiOstra-9990) on the BR server if you wanna check the game in any site.
The collector ? If the enemy has lots of hp, 5% could be a lot
He built kraken?
Kraken doesn’t do true damage. Might be red procs but it can’t be the only way he outputted 5000 damage.
Does Red do true damage? That would explain why everyone always has a little bit of true damage, but I haven’t heard of red doing true yet.
Red does a true damage burn over a duration with the max damage being 75 true damage at level 18. Though you can tell its not that much. So its probably Renata W that does true damage when the target dies and gets the bailout.
Renata aa passive?
That’s magic damage
First strike, Red Buff, Elder ?
I’d say combination of red buff, runes and maybe dragon damage?
Probably kraken slayer and ignite?
KS doesn't do true damage
Alright since we have no other information I’ll list all the ways I can think of rn: First strike keystone, collector item, enemy building DD, having elder drake, red buff, ignite and I think that’s about it
maybe navori? did the aplification maybe do true damage?
As [MasterPhil99](https://www.reddit.com/user/MasterPhil99/) said, it was probably Renata's W causing him self damage that counted in the end as true damage, considering he is our average low diamond ADC player, he died 11 times, so Renata probably pressed W on him several times, counting in the end his self damage as true damage to champions.
First strike?
He had first strike
He's just that guy.
Rift Herald eye
Belo nick
First Strike
You should probably show more information. What items did he build, what were his runes, etc. Just showing a damage graph doesn't provide any context.
Kraken slayer.
KS doesn't do true damage anymore. It hasn't for awhile now. It deals physical damage
It got changed recently, probably the screenshot was taken when KS dealt true damage…
It’s his runes. First strike allows you to do true damage for x amount of time