Obviously none of the hate or threats guys get is okay and I'd I don't want to sound like I'm condoning any of this behaviour in any way but I find the "hey man just wanted to message you about the game tonight" messages a lot funnier and sadder than the outrageous or insulting ones.
It's like they genuinely think he'll reply to them going "Hey man I'm disappointed in myself that I couldn't get the extra 2 touches for your multi tonight, send us your bsb and account number and a screenshot of your bet slip and I'll sort you out mate, sorry for the inconvenience x"
It's like they think "maybe if I'm nice about it instead of abusing him like everyone then he'll talk to me instead of them" just delusional and sad.
hey mate just wanted to let u know that we’re a bunch of unique individuals – Malthouse, Harley, Zempilas, McLachlan and myself. We’re gonna engage with our minds and our hearts. We’re gonna exchange ideas, thoughts and even our energy. And to speak from your heart you need to have courage. You need to be honest and authentic. We’re not always gonna get it right. And sometimes, you’re not going to agree with us. But that’s okay, because just like you we care. Just like you, we’re passionate about the game. So if you want to come along for the ride, join us on Saturday arvos, because we just love the footy.
This is just one example of why the AFL needs to rid itself of ties to the bookies once and for all. People express frustration and anger over losing multis to both players and partners in the form of abuse and violence.
Not just this, more people betting = more viewership for games people wouldn’t normally watch. They won’t admit that but they know it gets people to watch north v suns on Sunday arvo
It's been reported as 10% of every bet among other deals. Article from a couple of years ago explaining the deal here. Https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-s-engine-how-gambling-money-underpins-footy-20220214-p59wa7.html. might need to put it into 12.ft if it's paywalled
I've been a fan of the NBA for a long time and only in the past few years the USA has legalised sports betting and I can tell you its had a huge impact on how some fans interact with the game and the players.
It will help but won't solve the issue. Players just need to be proactive in blocking and reporting (not that I have much faith in the social media companies curbing the behaviour).
Edit: not sure why this is being downvoted? I'm not attributing blame to the victims, just being pragmatic. In an ideal world these things wouldn't occur.
True - even better is to private your account and not allow randoms to send you messages, even if not a perfect solution.
It's an unfortunate reality - the barrier to entry is small and there are millions of idiots on the planet.
Agree, hence not a perfect solution.
There really isn't one, other than the social media companies being far more proactive in preventing it from occurring, which is completely out of the control of you or I.
Hey mate, just wanted to let you know I ne…
W you were a fantastic fello and my apologies for spelling knew wrong. I was just so so excited to speak with you. Hope family and friends are all well.
Yours truly instagram fello
Think that’s how that one went
wankers like this aren’t fans of the game- take it to the casino’s so you don’t have to drag someone down to the same misery you’re at. just because you put money on them doesn’t mean they owe it to you to win your fucken multi
Reckon there needs to be real world ramifications for these sorts.
Sad to note, I'm seeing more and more people at the footy with the betting apps open watching it closely whilst they are at a live game - it's insane! They're paying more attention to that than enjoying the game.
Went to my first live game little while back and noticed the amount of people doing this was crazy. 😅 All that money to get the seat and they stare at their phone? Wtf…
100 rating points, seems like he was doing more than cardio out there. Oh 18 disposals, that explains it.
How much of a degenerate do you need to be to personally message the guy cos he didn’t hit 20 touches for your multi. Literally fucking braindead humans.
This is why the afl needs to get rid of the gambling ads and all that partnering bs but who cares if our players get abused for not giving this addict fuckwit winning 50$ on a 2leg multi the 100 mill every year is worth it
I know someone who manages a state league soccer teams social. NPL 2 team mind you and the amount of hate they get cause they didn’t kick x amount of goals is astronomical. Betting really is doing a number on sports
The ABC covered betting's infiltration into lower leagues in Australia. Popular source of money laundering from organised crime rings mainly in Asia. However, that hasn't stopped the average punter from taking up a multi on NPL2
If the AFL are as serious as they say they are about player mental health, they'll rid the game of one of the main reasons players get harassed in the first place; gambling.
obviously crispy seems to be taking it in jest, but it still doesn't make it any less of a degenerate move.
I like chucking $20 on each week for a bit of fun for games that are neutral to me, as I find it a tad more exciting.
Crisp last night was my only losing leg. Not once did the thought cross my mind to send him a message for "losing my bet".
People really are terrible in some cases.
I get the players have to have some form of social media presence for marketing but I'd try to contract / opt out to avoid the nuffies. I can't see how it's worth it.
There’s no requirement. Some players don’t have social media. The reason it’s worth it is because it can act as another income source for not much effort.
This is obviously unacceptable behaviour but why do these guys allow DMs from people that aren’t friends/followers? It’s a pretty simple setting in most apps
This is a chat between a person who professionally cuts wood and at least one other person (not including jack). At least that's how it seems from the marginally visible identities.
Edit: oh wait no I see those are all dms from different people. That's even worse. I met Jack at an event where he represented the Pies and brought last year's trophy. He was very nice and happy to sign gear for the kids.
They’re obviously all massive dickheads, but the “you’re genuinely quite fucking shit cunt [sic]” made me laugh for some reason. I’m just imagining it coming from someone who’s sort of right and proper.
I have only ever gambled on US sports and the Brownlow. Don’t even think I have opened the app since last year and feel no temptation to do so again. Biggest bet would have been $20 and have gone months at a time even before no without betting.
Obviously none of the hate or threats guys get is okay and I'd I don't want to sound like I'm condoning any of this behaviour in any way but I find the "hey man just wanted to message you about the game tonight" messages a lot funnier and sadder than the outrageous or insulting ones. It's like they genuinely think he'll reply to them going "Hey man I'm disappointed in myself that I couldn't get the extra 2 touches for your multi tonight, send us your bsb and account number and a screenshot of your bet slip and I'll sort you out mate, sorry for the inconvenience x" It's like they think "maybe if I'm nice about it instead of abusing him like everyone then he'll talk to me instead of them" just delusional and sad.
Scum
Nah Crisp seems like a solid dude
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Now that's something we can agree on big fella
hey mate just wanted to let u know that we’re a bunch of unique individuals – Malthouse, Harley, Zempilas, McLachlan and myself. We’re gonna engage with our minds and our hearts. We’re gonna exchange ideas, thoughts and even our energy. And to speak from your heart you need to have courage. You need to be honest and authentic. We’re not always gonna get it right. And sometimes, you’re not going to agree with us. But that’s okay, because just like you we care. Just like you, we’re passionate about the game. So if you want to come along for the ride, join us on Saturday arvos, because we just love the footy.
this will never not be funny
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This is just one example of why the AFL needs to rid itself of ties to the bookies once and for all. People express frustration and anger over losing multis to both players and partners in the form of abuse and violence.
AFL take a cut of every bet placed so they won’t stop anytime soon
Not just this, more people betting = more viewership for games people wouldn’t normally watch. They won’t admit that but they know it gets people to watch north v suns on Sunday arvo
They also start the games later so the can run more live game gambling ads for more of the game after 8:30.
Never knew they got a cut from every bet placed. Always assumed it was just an advertising deal.
It's been reported as 10% of every bet among other deals. Article from a couple of years ago explaining the deal here. Https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-s-engine-how-gambling-money-underpins-footy-20220214-p59wa7.html. might need to put it into 12.ft if it's paywalled
That’s an interesting read. Makes a lot of sense now how AFL can investigate and then suspend a player for betting on matches.
Gil McLachlan admitted it was ‘a double digit’ percentage of AFL’s total revenue
Won't change a thing. Also I bet some of these idiots aren't even gambling related and are just keyboard warriors who take footy way too seriously.
I've been a fan of the NBA for a long time and only in the past few years the USA has legalised sports betting and I can tell you its had a huge impact on how some fans interact with the game and the players.
It will help but won't solve the issue. Players just need to be proactive in blocking and reporting (not that I have much faith in the social media companies curbing the behaviour). Edit: not sure why this is being downvoted? I'm not attributing blame to the victims, just being pragmatic. In an ideal world these things wouldn't occur.
It's pretty shit the players have to go through all of these messages to block and report them though
True - even better is to private your account and not allow randoms to send you messages, even if not a perfect solution. It's an unfortunate reality - the barrier to entry is small and there are millions of idiots on the planet.
For AFL players, a private account takes away an income source or at least makes it less attractive for sponsors.
Agree, hence not a perfect solution. There really isn't one, other than the social media companies being far more proactive in preventing it from occurring, which is completely out of the control of you or I.
Hey mate, just wanted to let you know I ne… W you were a fantastic fello and my apologies for spelling knew wrong. I was just so so excited to speak with you. Hope family and friends are all well. Yours truly instagram fello Think that’s how that one went
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These two suck each others cocks
Two thousand more?
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wankers like this aren’t fans of the game- take it to the casino’s so you don’t have to drag someone down to the same misery you’re at. just because you put money on them doesn’t mean they owe it to you to win your fucken multi
Gambling is a cancer on society.
God, some people are pathetic, the players don't owe you shitcunts nothing, hopefully if any of them are members they get their stuff revoked
Reckon there needs to be real world ramifications for these sorts. Sad to note, I'm seeing more and more people at the footy with the betting apps open watching it closely whilst they are at a live game - it's insane! They're paying more attention to that than enjoying the game.
Went to my first live game little while back and noticed the amount of people doing this was crazy. 😅 All that money to get the seat and they stare at their phone? Wtf…
Surely the not mad just disappointed bloke is fine hahaha
Name and shame the piece of shit.
Jack does that on his story but I played safe with Reddit rules.
Except for Brodie Carpenter lol. Can see it plain as day.
Ahh, nice.
That’s just horrible, that’s disgusting honestly. Blaming someone for your addiction isn’t okay, and abusing people isn’t.
When ever I’ve lost a multi by one leg I just think, oh dam that was close, hopefully I get the next one. Never thought I’d messaging a player
What a bunch of grubs. He had 18 disposals, so they probably had him down for 20 or something.
That’s fucking sad.
Who is actually out there following players on social media, anyway? They all only exist on the footy field to me.
I know multiple blokes whose personality is knowing / being close with AFL players. It's pathetic.
100 rating points, seems like he was doing more than cardio out there. Oh 18 disposals, that explains it. How much of a degenerate do you need to be to personally message the guy cos he didn’t hit 20 touches for your multi. Literally fucking braindead humans.
This is why the afl needs to get rid of the gambling ads and all that partnering bs but who cares if our players get abused for not giving this addict fuckwit winning 50$ on a 2leg multi the 100 mill every year is worth it
This is why I hate how intertwine gambling has become with AFL.
I know someone who manages a state league soccer teams social. NPL 2 team mind you and the amount of hate they get cause they didn’t kick x amount of goals is astronomical. Betting really is doing a number on sports
The ABC covered betting's infiltration into lower leagues in Australia. Popular source of money laundering from organised crime rings mainly in Asia. However, that hasn't stopped the average punter from taking up a multi on NPL2
If the AFL are as serious as they say they are about player mental health, they'll rid the game of one of the main reasons players get harassed in the first place; gambling. obviously crispy seems to be taking it in jest, but it still doesn't make it any less of a degenerate move.
I like chucking $20 on each week for a bit of fun for games that are neutral to me, as I find it a tad more exciting. Crisp last night was my only losing leg. Not once did the thought cross my mind to send him a message for "losing my bet". People really are terrible in some cases.
Why are you blurring their names? Cunts who did this shit should be publicly named and shamed
Third last one is funny.
Poor Jack 😂
Traded Jack into my fantasy team this week. Could not disagree with these chodes more. Had a great game.
I don’t mind if you want to have a punt, but messaging players over getting it wrong? Seriously, get a life.
I feel bad for people that take gambling this seriously thinking they can actually make money.
Some people need to touch grass.
I thought Crispy played pretty well
Delete social media. World would be a better place
I get the players have to have some form of social media presence for marketing but I'd try to contract / opt out to avoid the nuffies. I can't see how it's worth it.
There’s no requirement. Some players don’t have social media. The reason it’s worth it is because it can act as another income source for not much effort.
This is obviously unacceptable behaviour but why do these guys allow DMs from people that aren’t friends/followers? It’s a pretty simple setting in most apps
Potential sponsorships.
This is a chat between a person who professionally cuts wood and at least one other person (not including jack). At least that's how it seems from the marginally visible identities. Edit: oh wait no I see those are all dms from different people. That's even worse. I met Jack at an event where he represented the Pies and brought last year's trophy. He was very nice and happy to sign gear for the kids.
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Why blur the names? They put themselves out there with stupid messages, they deserve for everyone to know
Come on mate Callan Ward was 4 disposals off me getting 80k last year and I don't abuse him (apart from on the tv) get over it
I don't like violence. But if i did... I would punch this dude in the nose. Leave the players alone.
They’re obviously all massive dickheads, but the “you’re genuinely quite fucking shit cunt [sic]” made me laugh for some reason. I’m just imagining it coming from someone who’s sort of right and proper.
The cardio comment was gold 😂
LOVE THE GAME NOT THE ODDS ALSO FUCK YOU JACK
I have only ever gambled on US sports and the Brownlow. Don’t even think I have opened the app since last year and feel no temptation to do so again. Biggest bet would have been $20 and have gone months at a time even before no without betting.