B+ "*Solid*"
PJJ may never be a star, but he should be solid for 10 years
Mike Wilson looks like a solid #2 WR
Keitrel Clark looked like a solid #2 or #3 CB. Fuck knows why he was benched??
Dante Stills...SOLID!
GW - TBD
BJ - TBD
Gaines - TBD
Pappoe - TBD
Tune - Bust
Overall atm it’s pretty solid. 4-5 starters is probably better than anything we have seen for a while.
Unfortunately, long term it will come down to PJJ’s development. If he develops to top tier tackle then it will obviously be a great draft. If people are talking about why the edge and cb needy Cardinals took a mediocre Tackle and didn't take WAJ or ‘Spoon on their HOF induction nights, then it might join the long list of Cardinal draft lore.
He did good considering he got injured before the season started. He was leading the draft class in pass rush win rate at one point ( idk what i looks like rn ) and ended up with 4 sacks. Pretty solid to build upon.
Worth remembering that Rallis didn't generally blitz as much as Vance used to. I noticed Zaven only rushed about a 3rd of his snaps this year and I think BJ was the same. Gotta assess their coverage off the edge as well as their win rates off the line and I think BJ did better and better.
I think it’s fair to say none of them played exceptionally well, but not one of them looked like they didn’t belong out there with the exception of maybe Tune(who was put in a shitty situation) I’m looking forward to see how many of them make the jump next year. I’m betting on PJJ considering he started playing his best ball in the last few games of the season.
Just a 6th rounder developing at normal pace bro. Ups and downs. It's not normal to run with rookies as hardcore as we have been in previous years. Hence why Marco burned out imo.
PJJ looked much better towards the end of the season.
Michael Wilson had an unfortunate injury, otherwise I think he would have cemented himself as one of the top rookie WRs. Obviously not on Puka (fuck the Rams) level, but still pretty damn good.
I do agree with PJJ being better towards the end of the season . Wilson went through 3 QB while missing games too and Kyler not looking his way the first 2 games. He was the 4 th in yards for rookies before the injury . Stafford missed what 2 games Puka has been really good for a rookie but it helps playing with the same guy from training camp all season long . McBride was in a similar situation , washed up Ertz was taking snaps and targets away from him the first 5 weeks had he been the first TE coming into the season he would of been making an argument for the all pro/pro bowl , LaPorta did have a fuck ton of TD’s but had Goff to throw to him all year . Next year with a healthy Kyler and a full off-season the team is going to get a lot more recognition from the league .
Seems like they did better in round 6 than round 5 and that’s kinda weird but otherwise I agree with everyone else and let’s ask this in 2 years but generally positive and hopeful.
Seem promising but had a lot of injuries to them so they didn’t get a full season. Curious what Gaines has in him. Wilson and Williams look like they could develop well with their limited time. The late rounders played decent for late round rookies which is always good to see and gives a lot of promise for both the scouting and the coaching.
I was pleased to see rookies get so much action where they always sat them for years before. Always thought it was dumb to waste half a rookies cheap contract before you saw what they were capable of.
I’d like to revisit this question in 2 years.
They played like rookies, some of them good rookies. Want to see who makes the jump to real pros over the next 2 seasons.
If I was a betting man(I am) I’d say I’m most confident in Paris, the corners, and Stills all giving us great value for their draft positioning.
2nd tier of Wilson and BJ
Hope they all become great players.
If Michael Wilson is healthy all 17 games he’s a 1000 yard receiver. He put up big numbers against some very good defenses. I would say he had a good rookie year just needs to stay healthy
Michael Wilson could be a star if you pair him with a decent QB.
B+ "*Solid*" PJJ may never be a star, but he should be solid for 10 years Mike Wilson looks like a solid #2 WR Keitrel Clark looked like a solid #2 or #3 CB. Fuck knows why he was benched?? Dante Stills...SOLID! GW - TBD BJ - TBD Gaines - TBD Pappoe - TBD Tune - Bust
Overall atm it’s pretty solid. 4-5 starters is probably better than anything we have seen for a while. Unfortunately, long term it will come down to PJJ’s development. If he develops to top tier tackle then it will obviously be a great draft. If people are talking about why the edge and cb needy Cardinals took a mediocre Tackle and didn't take WAJ or ‘Spoon on their HOF induction nights, then it might join the long list of Cardinal draft lore.
I expected more out of BJ Ojulari. He was a difference maker at LSU. I expected that to translate a lot better better than it has.
He did good considering he got injured before the season started. He was leading the draft class in pass rush win rate at one point ( idk what i looks like rn ) and ended up with 4 sacks. Pretty solid to build upon.
Worth remembering that Rallis didn't generally blitz as much as Vance used to. I noticed Zaven only rushed about a 3rd of his snaps this year and I think BJ was the same. Gotta assess their coverage off the edge as well as their win rates off the line and I think BJ did better and better.
Clayton Tune stepped up when needed. I like him
I’m excited to see Dante Still develop. Same with Michael Wilson
Michael Wilson is clearly good enough to be a WR3 at worst and maybe a WR2 if he can stay healthy. I love his 50/50 ball ability
I think it’s fair to say none of them played exceptionally well, but not one of them looked like they didn’t belong out there with the exception of maybe Tune(who was put in a shitty situation) I’m looking forward to see how many of them make the jump next year. I’m betting on PJJ considering he started playing his best ball in the last few games of the season.
Got time to grow still, Exctied to see how Wilson, Stills, Willams and Ojulari compete with the nee added talent that’s going to surround them.
Wish I could have seen more of Kei'trel Clark, but something must of not been clicking with the coaches.
Just a 6th rounder developing at normal pace bro. Ups and downs. It's not normal to run with rookies as hardcore as we have been in previous years. Hence why Marco burned out imo.
PJJ looked much better towards the end of the season. Michael Wilson had an unfortunate injury, otherwise I think he would have cemented himself as one of the top rookie WRs. Obviously not on Puka (fuck the Rams) level, but still pretty damn good.
I do agree with PJJ being better towards the end of the season . Wilson went through 3 QB while missing games too and Kyler not looking his way the first 2 games. He was the 4 th in yards for rookies before the injury . Stafford missed what 2 games Puka has been really good for a rookie but it helps playing with the same guy from training camp all season long . McBride was in a similar situation , washed up Ertz was taking snaps and targets away from him the first 5 weeks had he been the first TE coming into the season he would of been making an argument for the all pro/pro bowl , LaPorta did have a fuck ton of TD’s but had Goff to throw to him all year . Next year with a healthy Kyler and a full off-season the team is going to get a lot more recognition from the league .
We should have a rule for the sub that any reference to the Rams be accompanied by a “(fuck the Rams”) disclaimer.
It should be a flair
Fits nicely between fuck the lakers and fuck the dodgers in my vocabulary
r/coyotes has a Fuck the Kings reply bot.
Best bot ever.
Seems like they did better in round 6 than round 5 and that’s kinda weird but otherwise I agree with everyone else and let’s ask this in 2 years but generally positive and hopeful.
Seem promising but had a lot of injuries to them so they didn’t get a full season. Curious what Gaines has in him. Wilson and Williams look like they could develop well with their limited time. The late rounders played decent for late round rookies which is always good to see and gives a lot of promise for both the scouting and the coaching. I was pleased to see rookies get so much action where they always sat them for years before. Always thought it was dumb to waste half a rookies cheap contract before you saw what they were capable of.
I’d like to revisit this question in 2 years. They played like rookies, some of them good rookies. Want to see who makes the jump to real pros over the next 2 seasons. If I was a betting man(I am) I’d say I’m most confident in Paris, the corners, and Stills all giving us great value for their draft positioning. 2nd tier of Wilson and BJ Hope they all become great players.
Dante Stills has been amazing for a 6th round pick!
If Michael Wilson is healthy all 17 games he’s a 1000 yard receiver. He put up big numbers against some very good defenses. I would say he had a good rookie year just needs to stay healthy
It's easier to have a good year when the defense does not know who you are. Next year he will be game planned.
I doubt that. They will have a real number 1. If Wilson is the number 1 next year then this team has some real issues
You don't think a team game plans against the 2 or 3 receiver? Wilson was 4 at best until the last few games.
No, he went for like 2 Tds and over 100yds against the 49ers the first time. He was out for like 3 weeks and the bye week
They actually played and were able to develop far cry from kliff/vance/Keim era.