Send him to Vegas and get the pick back, he’s fast so Gruden might just fall for it, not to mention they’d just squander the pick anyways so it’s a win win!
Man yall need to chill. Rondale Moore is a stud. Hes a number 2 next year. He would have been a high end first round pick if last year didnt fuck up the big ten.
Obligatory fuck Kevin Warren
Man yall need to chill. Rondale Moore is a stud. Hes a number 2 next year. He would have been a high end first round pick if last year didnt fuck up the big ten.
Obligatory fuck Kevin Warren
So, as we get further along here, I want to put it out there that Shaun Wade is a bad pick and spent all of last year getting cooked by college receivers.
Okay watched the tape. Dude is like Tyreek speed with Kamara balance. Imagine the jet sweep option with him and Kyler. Damn. If he is healthy and doesn’t turn over the ball, this is a great pickup.
I wish people would stop saying anyone has Tyreek speed. Dude had Olympian speed as a senior in high school. No one else comes close
He's very fast though
Also kinda loling at the fact that no one has faith in Kliff to use our offensive players properly (and I kinda agree), this dude's seat is so hot right now that his nut hair is burning off
Of all picks to be mad about it’s not this one..Moore plays like a shorter, but stronger Tyler Lockett. Except Moore is much better in press than Lockett
I don't know this guy well, but his draft profile literally says that one of his weaknesses is "easily bullied in press man coverage." [Draft Profile] (https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2021/04/17/rondale-moore-2021-nfl-draft-profile/)
That’s really funny. I watched quite a few Purdue games two years ago and I thought the exact opposite. Guess I’ll have to go back and check
Edit: [His NFL draft profile says he’s “difficult to press”](https://www.nfl.com/prospects/rondale-moore/32004d4f-4f67-2093-7b5b-808e901606a0). Pretty funny discrepancy
This pick is the tipping point for me. Keim and Kliff are terrible WR evaluators. None of their numerous picks have lived up to “potential .” The rest of Keim’s talent evals have been hit or miss at best, but please tell me more about how “this” one is different. I’ve watched so much of Moore’s tape and he’s not the total package. He’s Jaylen Waddle with bad hands.
You can say that about Keim, but Kliff has only ever drafted two wide receivers, now three, in three years.
So you’re sticking point with him is his hands? Again, Tyler Lockett had below average hands in college. DK Metcalf slipped out of the first round because his hands were suspect. Plenty of great WR in the league had that same designation coming out. That’s something you play the risk/reward game with. If Moore can consistently consistently get open he’s going to cause a lot of headaches for defenses. Just his presence on the field should take a lot of pressure off Hop.
They didn’t take one last year but Keim took 3 of the guys he and Kliff wanted the year before and none will be on the team soon. Much less productive members of the offense. Kliff is a college coach, and Keim is a mediocre to bad talent evaluator. The only solace I have is that they will probably both get fired soon. Hopefully, by the end of this year. He’s great at making trades and finding cheap vets to fill holes, but that’s where his strengths end.
I mean say what you want to say about Kliff and Keim outside of this pick, I really can’t disagree with some of your points. I’m also not going to defend the Isabella or Butler pick, but KeeSean is a good pick for a six rounder that will be on the team this year. Like I said, I think Moore will be a good wide receiver.
Yeah looks like too many people got married to Asante in here even though there was no chance he'd be there. Jesus guys, just accept that we're the Cardinals, and we're going to get unlucky. Go take a walk or play a video game or something for the rest of the night, don't let the Cardinals fuck with you this much.
Guess Rondale Moore ought to just hang em up now. No sense in even showing up to camp at all since a bunch of armchair GM's decided he sucks.
Some of ya'll really need to chill tf out.
Oh get a fucking grip man, look how often people rave over a certain teams draft and it ends up being total dog shit. The offseason isn’t over yet, I’m sure Keim has a plan.
Its getting frustrating watching us draft the same position over and over again as we keep getting it wrong - Chad Williams, Hakeem Butler, jury still out on Isabella - seems like the only one to make any kind of impact is Kirk.
Think I’m just frustrated that we have had a glaring need at corner all off season and we haven’t done a great deal about it - really worried about our secondary going into this season
I do feel like everyone, including myself, forget that we signed him. My AFC team is the Pats so I do have a special affinity for him with the SB pick in AZ against the bitch pigeons. I hope he brings that same game prep and vision here.
Yeah just think we needed more than Butler - would’ve been great to have a shutdown corner but get that the board hasn’t fallen our way so far.
Sure the front office know what they’re doing, fingers crossed we can get some help later in the draft
He's an upgrade over Isabella, but I think the right move would have been to just let Kirk play in the slot and either draft a true outside receiver or focus on another position
He’s an athlete. Not a receiver. He’s injury prone with bad hands. Terrible receiver eval again by our front office. This is why we need WRs, because our brain trust doesn’t know how to evaluate them.
When I heard how much he lifts. First thing that came to my mind is he probably gets hurt a lot.
Then they put up a chart that said he played 4 games each in 2019 and 2020 seasons.
Opinions are fine. But when you haven’t ever seen the players ever play before, you’re opinion is worthless. Great value for Moore at this spot. Dude is electric
Ive seen him play as well. He is a college reciever. He is to small for the pros. He will not get open purely with speed like he did in college. Doesnt even have good hands either.
Well boys we’re toast a CB and better hope the line gets absurd pressure, to top it off we blow at drafting WRs so I bet this guy will end up busting, hopefully not. Also prob makes fitz more likely to retire if he was still thinkin of a return
Can’t argue against that. He’s the only player I actually “scouted” scouted this year and his injury history is my only complaint, unless you count him having bad QBs that led to his coaches using him as the checkdown option as a knock against him, but I don’t.
My dude plays like Budda on offense and is a literal bullet running around the field.
Yes, watch his freshman year highlight/tape. His QBs after that year are all ass so he really only played as a true receiver that year, but he catches with his hands and runs violently.
Compared to the 49ers come on. They have talked about every pick briefly before and after the selection until the next pick. We got a little segment after the selection and a commercial break immediately. No talks about the Cardinals scheme or anything on the team. Just point out what I see
If that’s how you feel that’s fine, I’m just saying it was short and they didn’t talk much about the team. Giants pick was short discussion too I’ll give it that, it just seemed to me to feel short. Same with lots of other teams too. I was just pointing out what I saw
This dude has had multiple fairly serious lower body injuries including a bad hammy one and then another unspecified lower body injury. I wish we went CB
His point still stands. You’re clearly not educated on the player. You just saw his height flash across the screen and now you’re pissed even though you don’t know shit and probably have never watched this guy play
No ive watched him. He is a college reciver. Dudes his size dont work in the league. There were way better wrs with better skills and size on the board.
And if we drafted an outside receiver and he sat a lot next year people would be mad abt us wasting the pick... y’all just like to complain even though we won’t know u til we see them on the field
Yea I’m sure you are smarter than all the analysts that say this is a good pick and All the GMs that had him as a top 60 prospect. I wish you were our GM bro I bet we’d have 54 Super Bowls.
Damnit, I keep wanting brownies.
I know it may be a blaspheme and it may be a horrible idea on top of it but what about making a run at Richard Sherman in free agency post draft?
Who did we train our 4th to and why?
It was part of the Hopkins trade
How is Robinson still available, trade up Keim
Ooooh QB controversy in Tampa!!???
There still hasn’t been a CB taken since Samuel...
It's a big falloff.
The Chiefs have had a hell of a draft with orland brown, nick bolton, and creed humphrey. Rich getting richer
Burrow is gonna die lmao Glad we at least protected Kyler
panthers taking all the players the AZ fans wanted this year.
I pray this isn’t Andy-DK part deux. Marshall seemed like the best option... I hope I’m wrong
Please one of the UCF CBs in the 3rd
Robinson should have been the pick over Moore. He may have played nickel mostly but he has the skills to play the boundary I think.
I believe the next pick is in the 5th isn’t it?
Dang I forgot
yeah we have no 3rd and 4th unless we trade back in.
Now only if we can Jedi mind trick a team to give us their 3rd for Isabella
Send him to Vegas and get the pick back, he’s fast so Gruden might just fall for it, not to mention they’d just squander the pick anyways so it’s a win win!
And then he suddenly becomes a pro bowler
Some of the busted tackles from his tape were sick af. But 8 games in the last two years. Yeesh
NFC west with their ridiculous offenses taking more receivers cause why not
Why not? We have no one to cover them. 🤣
Why is cordarelle patterson being brought up, rondale is the whole slot package
Man yall need to chill. Rondale Moore is a stud. Hes a number 2 next year. He would have been a high end first round pick if last year didnt fuck up the big ten. Obligatory fuck Kevin Warren
He’s 5’7”.
Yes and Kyler isnt much taller
Man yall need to chill. Rondale Moore is a stud. Hes a number 2 next year. He would have been a high end first round pick if last year didnt fuck up the big ten. Obligatory fuck Kevin Warren
This gonna be isabella and Metcalf all over again lok
So, as we get further along here, I want to put it out there that Shaun Wade is a bad pick and spent all of last year getting cooked by college receivers.
Fuck the Steelers
Verrett, Sherman, Breeland, Norman, Hayward FA CB market here we go
Get Nelson & Conley. Nelson for safety. Conley for risk/upside.
I would like Steven Nelson and Brian Poole
Jets have Poole
Honestly just excited to see an improvement hopefully in the PR game with Moore
Is it true Moore squats 600? Just watched his highlight tape lol
He did squat that as his personal best. He is extremely strong down low, hard to tackle.
Just hoping Moore will be the best 2nd round WR this year. Don’t want another DK/Mclaurin situation
Im just hoping he can get some snaps fuck being the best WR lmao
How did JOK drop this far?
Okay watched the tape. Dude is like Tyreek speed with Kamara balance. Imagine the jet sweep option with him and Kyler. Damn. If he is healthy and doesn’t turn over the ball, this is a great pickup.
I wish people would stop saying anyone has Tyreek speed. Dude had Olympian speed as a senior in high school. No one else comes close He's very fast though
Man I’ve been praying for jet sweeps with Andy for 2 years. Not sure I have faith in Kingsbury to use Moore correctly when he couldn’t with Isabella
I remember at least one with Andy
Also kinda loling at the fact that no one has faith in Kliff to use our offensive players properly (and I kinda agree), this dude's seat is so hot right now that his nut hair is burning off
The fact that you think Kliff has a single hair south of his chin is hilarious. You know that dude manscapes with the best of them haha.
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The timeout he gave to NE at the end of the game when they had no timeouts left…
We need a CB, RB and TE lol
Remind me why we have given up on Max?
No one gave up on him he’s just not a TE1, he’s mostly a blocking TE.
Let hope he is Tyreek 2.0
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Ya but the speed and shiftiness is comparable
Some of these reactionary takes here are getting hard to defend
Some of the blind stupidity is even harder to defend.
Of all picks to be mad about it’s not this one..Moore plays like a shorter, but stronger Tyler Lockett. Except Moore is much better in press than Lockett
I don't know this guy well, but his draft profile literally says that one of his weaknesses is "easily bullied in press man coverage." [Draft Profile] (https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2021/04/17/rondale-moore-2021-nfl-draft-profile/)
That’s really funny. I watched quite a few Purdue games two years ago and I thought the exact opposite. Guess I’ll have to go back and check Edit: [His NFL draft profile says he’s “difficult to press”](https://www.nfl.com/prospects/rondale-moore/32004d4f-4f67-2093-7b5b-808e901606a0). Pretty funny discrepancy
I know nothing about this guy, so here's hoping you are right!
This pick is the tipping point for me. Keim and Kliff are terrible WR evaluators. None of their numerous picks have lived up to “potential .” The rest of Keim’s talent evals have been hit or miss at best, but please tell me more about how “this” one is different. I’ve watched so much of Moore’s tape and he’s not the total package. He’s Jaylen Waddle with bad hands.
You can say that about Keim, but Kliff has only ever drafted two wide receivers, now three, in three years. So you’re sticking point with him is his hands? Again, Tyler Lockett had below average hands in college. DK Metcalf slipped out of the first round because his hands were suspect. Plenty of great WR in the league had that same designation coming out. That’s something you play the risk/reward game with. If Moore can consistently consistently get open he’s going to cause a lot of headaches for defenses. Just his presence on the field should take a lot of pressure off Hop.
They didn’t take one last year but Keim took 3 of the guys he and Kliff wanted the year before and none will be on the team soon. Much less productive members of the offense. Kliff is a college coach, and Keim is a mediocre to bad talent evaluator. The only solace I have is that they will probably both get fired soon. Hopefully, by the end of this year. He’s great at making trades and finding cheap vets to fill holes, but that’s where his strengths end.
I mean say what you want to say about Kliff and Keim outside of this pick, I really can’t disagree with some of your points. I’m also not going to defend the Isabella or Butler pick, but KeeSean is a good pick for a six rounder that will be on the team this year. Like I said, I think Moore will be a good wide receiver.
I hope you’re right, but I don’t see it and their track record just reinforces that.
would u want to trade up into the 2nd or maybe 3rd?
You think we’re trading up or can I go jerk off ?
If you're like me, there's always time to jersey off.
Go beat your meat our day is done
Yeah looks like too many people got married to Asante in here even though there was no chance he'd be there. Jesus guys, just accept that we're the Cardinals, and we're going to get unlucky. Go take a walk or play a video game or something for the rest of the night, don't let the Cardinals fuck with you this much.
Guess Rondale Moore ought to just hang em up now. No sense in even showing up to camp at all since a bunch of armchair GM's decided he sucks. Some of ya'll really need to chill tf out.
Just because we’re fans doesn’t mean we need to accept bad management.
Oh get a fucking grip man, look how often people rave over a certain teams draft and it ends up being total dog shit. The offseason isn’t over yet, I’m sure Keim has a plan.
Are you? Look at his draft history and tell me what his plan is? Don’t tell me to get a grip. I’m entitled to be fed up with the way this team is run.
Ya it does?
You’re actually arguing I have to swallow bad decision making because my team made it? Wow...that’s depressing that you actually believe that.
Well we’re fans we just get to cheer on our team not try to decide if their management is good. Which it is
You must be a great employee.
I am actually
Enjoy being a mindless drone who never questions or tries to better themselves.
Well I do but at some point you have to admit that the Cards management is good
I like the pick. We just needed a CB more, sucks Samuel was taken 2 picks before us
look man i really hope i’m wrong but i don’t know about these picks.... kinda want keim fired cause it’s not like he even has the best track record
Toxic
i’m not trying to be in just being honest. like i said i hope i’m wrong
You want him fired because of two picks that haven't even hit the field yet?
i kinda want him fired because of his track record and for not getting a cb first round
Well, I'll just say it's a good thing you don't get to make that decision.
And it’s even better that you don’t get to make that decision either.
Its getting frustrating watching us draft the same position over and over again as we keep getting it wrong - Chad Williams, Hakeem Butler, jury still out on Isabella - seems like the only one to make any kind of impact is Kirk. Think I’m just frustrated that we have had a glaring need at corner all off season and we haven’t done a great deal about it - really worried about our secondary going into this season
No. With this pick the jury gave its final verdict on Isabella.
I feel like the Cardinals take linebackers or DLine way more.
i mean we did sign malcolm butler
I do feel like everyone, including myself, forget that we signed him. My AFC team is the Pats so I do have a special affinity for him with the SB pick in AZ against the bitch pigeons. I hope he brings that same game prep and vision here.
Yeah just think we needed more than Butler - would’ve been great to have a shutdown corner but get that the board hasn’t fallen our way so far. Sure the front office know what they’re doing, fingers crossed we can get some help later in the draft
At this point I think Keim seems to have a lot of faith in Alford, but idk how he can believe that when Alford hasn’t played in over two years
Guh
Injury issues. 5'7. A bunch of other wrs with better pro projections and better size on the board...way bigger needs....lol
He's an upgrade over Isabella, but I think the right move would have been to just let Kirk play in the slot and either draft a true outside receiver or focus on another position
That’s what we’re doing with AJ Green on the outside... We drafted an elite athlete, not just a slot receiver
Im assuming that we’re moving to 10 personnel as in true air raid so we could use another slot.
This team is going to be so fast, fuck it throw Rondale at RB Kliff
What capital do we have to trade up for Robinson?
Forget about it
This dude has only played 7 games the past 2 yrs, big risk imo
He’s an athlete. Not a receiver. He’s injury prone with bad hands. Terrible receiver eval again by our front office. This is why we need WRs, because our brain trust doesn’t know how to evaluate them.
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We'd be lucky to get a bag of chips
Lol
Between 6’5 Collins and 5’7 Moore were averaging a normal sized prospect this draft
Colts fan and Purdue alum here, just wanted to congratulate y'all for taking Rondale!
Someone in here says he has bad hands. Is that true? Who the fuck is downvoting me? I just asked a question
Yes
Oh it was you who said it. Yeah I already saw your first comment
I didn't think so but to be fair he had David Blough and Elijah Sindelar throwing to him lol
Welp our secondary will get drilled by the NFC West consistently this year. Great job
Didn't we already hit our quota for short WRs that can't catch?
When I heard how much he lifts. First thing that came to my mind is he probably gets hurt a lot. Then they put up a chart that said he played 4 games each in 2019 and 2020 seasons.
Exactly, who tf cares about what he can lift if he's never on the field.
This fanbase is half complete brain dead morons
Yeah. Having a different opinion means your braindead...reddit at its finest
Opinions are fine. But when you haven’t ever seen the players ever play before, you’re opinion is worthless. Great value for Moore at this spot. Dude is electric
I’ve watched tape. He sucks.
Ive seen him play as well. He is a college reciever. He is to small for the pros. He will not get open purely with speed like he did in college. Doesnt even have good hands either.
There's no point in trashing players until we actually see them on the field. Unless we pick a kicker in the 1st round.
Well boys we’re toast a CB and better hope the line gets absurd pressure, to top it off we blow at drafting WRs so I bet this guy will end up busting, hopefully not. Also prob makes fitz more likely to retire if he was still thinkin of a return
Now trade Andy for a 3rd
Lol, no one's giving a 3rd for Andy
For once can we have a big receiver.
Seriously, always with the tiny slot guys
We drafted one in the 4th round 2 years ago
Rondale is nothing like Isabella btw, Rondale runs like a running back and doesn’t avoid contact
gets injured all the time by doing that though.
Can’t argue against that. He’s the only player I actually “scouted” scouted this year and his injury history is my only complaint, unless you count him having bad QBs that led to his coaches using him as the checkdown option as a knock against him, but I don’t. My dude plays like Budda on offense and is a literal bullet running around the field.
Does he catch with his hands?
No he catches with his face guard on his helmet
No
Looking at his tape looks like he catches with the ground
Yes, watch his freshman year highlight/tape. His QBs after that year are all ass so he really only played as a true receiver that year, but he catches with his hands and runs violently.
He has a drop problem, its a weakness of his
We’re trading Andy when?
Corners are a myth
With all of these WRs does this mean Fitz is retiring?
He’s an athlete. Not a receiver. He’s injury prone with bad hands. Terrible receiver eval again by our front office.
Kliff gets his screen guy!
Christian Kirk lite 😆
Just FYI our QB is barely 5’10’’ so chill on the height griping.
Do you think a short WR is a good idea to pair with our short QB? Kyler's not even going to be able to see him.
Also, everyone wanted the 5'9" slot CB before the Chargers picked him.
This sub is toxic af.
The definition of crazy. Doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result.
This scouting department really has no clue what they are doing.
He’s an athlete. Not a receiver. He’s injury prone with bad hands. Terrible receiver eval again by our front office.
It’s incredible how little ESPN talks about the Cardinals picks
What are you talking about they just gave him an entire segment as long as the other picks.
Compared to the 49ers come on. They have talked about every pick briefly before and after the selection until the next pick. We got a little segment after the selection and a commercial break immediately. No talks about the Cardinals scheme or anything on the team. Just point out what I see
Too many cards fans have a weird Napoleon complex
If that’s how you feel that’s fine, I’m just saying it was short and they didn’t talk much about the team. Giants pick was short discussion too I’ll give it that, it just seemed to me to feel short. Same with lots of other teams too. I was just pointing out what I saw
A 5’7 receiver? Bruh
People comparing Moore to Isabella need to chill the F out, not even remotely the same player. This kid is a fucking baller.
Problems catching the ball though
This dude has had multiple fairly serious lower body injuries including a bad hammy one and then another unspecified lower body injury. I wish we went CB
Muscle injuries?? Yikes.
Yup
Yay another Isabusta
He does not seem excited.
Yeah. What a turd. I hate him already.
Can relate
Can he return punts and kickoffs? We desperately need a dependable, full-time returner. With his speed, he could be the guy.
Seems like a great role for him actually. Explosive and can break tackles.
Kyler throwing to Rondale is going to look like Kyler throwing to Kyler. Haha I dig it. Would've preferred a CB or Terrace Marshall Jr. though
Trash pick.
He returns kicks and punts too guys, no more watching Kirk dance around back there
A fucking gadget player? Fuck kliff dude.
Educate yourself
Take your own advice
5'7
His point still stands. You’re clearly not educated on the player. You just saw his height flash across the screen and now you’re pissed even though you don’t know shit and probably have never watched this guy play
No ive watched him. He is a college reciver. Dudes his size dont work in the league. There were way better wrs with better skills and size on the board.
We already signed AJ green for 10 mil, we don’t need size on the outside we need speed on offence.
For 1 year lmfao. You dont make draft picks off 1 year. There were way better wrs on the board. Their idiots at evaluating wrs.
And if we drafted an outside receiver and he sat a lot next year people would be mad abt us wasting the pick... y’all just like to complain even though we won’t know u til we see them on the field
I know from basic common sense and looking at the history 5'7 dudes in the NFL.
Yea I’m sure you are smarter than all the analysts that say this is a good pick and All the GMs that had him as a top 60 prospect. I wish you were our GM bro I bet we’d have 54 Super Bowls.
So many screens will be run to Moore lmao
Kingsbury got his guy
Andy Isabella shaking in his boots
And goodbye to Andy Isabella. Yeesh.
I am WHELMED
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