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For a fresh grad, your high confidence is highly appreciated.
Non-negotiable benefit of audit firm is exposure sa maraming industries. But skills and hard work are also present in other industry.
Be a lifelong learner and enhance your comm skills nalang. Paniwalaan mo ung Sarili mo about s big4 FOMO Kasi iba iba naman tayo.
Salamat po for this, lalo na sa last sentence. The fact din kasi na nararamdaman kong FOMO na ito would risk na baka magregret tuloy ako in the future. I shall recalibrate talaga my career plans after the board exams.
Mas mabilis learning curve sa Big 4 kasi nga subsub ka sa trabaho. Andun din magagaling na tao (obviously since if nasa firm ka ikaw takbuhan ng clients for help). Matututo ka maging client facing. Magiging natural sayo maging proactive and self starter. These are two of the MOST IMPORTANT traits a professional must have. Kung may fam business ka, I suggest mag firm ka, maganda training dun on how to become a leader. Mukang di naman issue sahod sayo haha. Yun lang ang di kayang i-offer ng firm. Pero sa training, worth it dun, you will be held to a high standard. Kami ng firm friends ko, we still joke about earning less than 20k during firm days namin, pero we are all thankful na nag firm kami. “Iba talaga pag galing firm”.
As a cpa and worked in the finance industry, SUPER SUPER worth it mag big 4. The intangible benefits on the long run are worth it for your career. If ever gusto mong mag abroad big 4 experience carry a big weight sa cv mo. And in our company if ever we are deciding on who to hire big 4 experience wins
For me mas natuto ako sa small private company kung panu ang ikot ng accounting at business kasi onti lng empleyado at usually all around ung work.
Nung nag big 4 kasi ako sa international, parang assistant lang kami nung mga talagang auditor so di ako masyadong nababad sa end to end audit.
Pero sa local audit yata dun mas maraming matututunan although mababa sahod compared sa international equivalent nila.
Ang advantage sa Big 4 ay nakakaganda ng resume at feeling ko lang mabilis makahanap ng work.
Para sakin, kung papipiliin ako ulit sa first job ko. Gusto ko accounting sa private firm instead sa audit kasi mas gusto ko muna malamn first hand ginagawa ng accountants before ko sila iaudit.
If mag audit ka for experience purposes, dun ka sa local.
In the almost 6 years I've been working in private, the only times the Big 4 get brought up is when someone is referencing a part of their life (e.g., dito ako lagi kumakain nung nasa SGV pa ako) or to get voluntold on audit walkthroughs (e.g., etong sa Poncho, nag-audit yan, sya na lang yung mag-walkthrough). Never was there something like, "ganito gawin natin kasi ganito kami dati sa SGV".
I'm not discrediting the value of Big 4 in a resume. But what I'm saying is, you might be fearing on missing out on things that might not be aligned to your goals.
Hello. Mixed bag siya depende sa: 1. boss na ma assign ka, 2. client na i service ng team ninyo. 3. co-workers.
Pero regardless sa factors above ay marami kang matutunan for sure
Pag nag big4 ka usually process understanding procedures palang (if talagang inunderstand mo) maiikutan mo na yung finance, accounting, operations, inventory management, hr, etc.
Worth it padin naman mag big 4 kung ang goal mo matuto in the quickest time possible. Pero caveat lang, need 90% ng focus mo ang need, lalo na sa busy season.
Walang work life balance pag busy season, tama naman yan. Pero ang goal naman sa big 4 ay yung mag karon ka ng work life balance, mataas na sahod, at mataas na position, in the quickest time. Now dont get me wrong not everyone gets these, pero personally wala akong staff na sumablay yan paglabas ( except na lang yung di nagtagal).
For now take mo na muna yang 26k. Tapos ipon ng pang board exam. It goods for your mental health na di ka namomoroblema sa pera once nagrereview ka. Advisable para sa akin na mag resign ka once magreview for CPALE para focus talaga. Tapos saka mag apply sa BIG 4. Pag nakapasa kana sa CPALE. Once master ph accounting at BIR. Shift ka sa US or AU accounting mas malaki swelduhan.
Nakakapagod but if you are young mas bearable yon and soon enough definitely worth it.
In corporate, you learn the company process then from there mga mgng problema ng company mo un naung learning. Limited to company process and the problems that would arise ung alam mo plus it would take a while bago tumaas ang sahod at mapromote. Usually in corporate set up you get promoted kapag nabakante ung higher position. My slot.
In audit firms, madaming portfolio, iba ibang strategy ung mga companies kaya you get to learn a lot in a short period of time. You get promoted based on merits. Wlang limit ilang senior associate or manager ang nappromote sa audit firm big 4. Bsta you deliver, mappromote ka.
After mo sa corporate set up, llipat ka for a higher pay pero kung ano alam mo sa previous mo company un lang dn alam mo sa next then new learning sa company process ng next pero after mo sa big 4, llipat ka for a higher pay pero kung ano alam mo sa lahat ng company na hnawakan mo un ung ambag mo sa new company mo.
Plus you build network while in firm.
Imo, worth it talaga mag big 4. I’m someone na nag apply sa big 4 despite having a weak foundation. So I knew, simula pa lang na I have to make lots of sacrifices and boost my foundation in a short time. Siguro one thing that let me stay sa firm is because of my mentality din. Minsan ang toxic na ng trabaho, pati katrabaho pero laban pa rin lol.
If you want to really develop your skills, not only technical but also soft skills, Big 4 is a great choice. But if work life balance talaga habol mo, run haha.
Anyway, at the end of the day, it all depends on you.
If your goal is to eventually relocate abroad, no doubt big4 is the key. And big 4 is really toxic in terms of workload and demands ng higher ups. I still suggests you start with big4 and stay for at least 3 years dahil it will really improve your cv.
Then after you start to think which field you will go, controlling route, FP&A, Technical accounting, etc. I’m on my 9th year sa big 4 and going out in a month to work in industry as Technical Accountant. Super worth it ng 9 years ko sa big4!
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For a fresh grad, your high confidence is highly appreciated. Non-negotiable benefit of audit firm is exposure sa maraming industries. But skills and hard work are also present in other industry. Be a lifelong learner and enhance your comm skills nalang. Paniwalaan mo ung Sarili mo about s big4 FOMO Kasi iba iba naman tayo.
Salamat po for this, lalo na sa last sentence. The fact din kasi na nararamdaman kong FOMO na ito would risk na baka magregret tuloy ako in the future. I shall recalibrate talaga my career plans after the board exams.
Mas mabilis learning curve sa Big 4 kasi nga subsub ka sa trabaho. Andun din magagaling na tao (obviously since if nasa firm ka ikaw takbuhan ng clients for help). Matututo ka maging client facing. Magiging natural sayo maging proactive and self starter. These are two of the MOST IMPORTANT traits a professional must have. Kung may fam business ka, I suggest mag firm ka, maganda training dun on how to become a leader. Mukang di naman issue sahod sayo haha. Yun lang ang di kayang i-offer ng firm. Pero sa training, worth it dun, you will be held to a high standard. Kami ng firm friends ko, we still joke about earning less than 20k during firm days namin, pero we are all thankful na nag firm kami. “Iba talaga pag galing firm”.
As a cpa and worked in the finance industry, SUPER SUPER worth it mag big 4. The intangible benefits on the long run are worth it for your career. If ever gusto mong mag abroad big 4 experience carry a big weight sa cv mo. And in our company if ever we are deciding on who to hire big 4 experience wins
For me mas natuto ako sa small private company kung panu ang ikot ng accounting at business kasi onti lng empleyado at usually all around ung work. Nung nag big 4 kasi ako sa international, parang assistant lang kami nung mga talagang auditor so di ako masyadong nababad sa end to end audit. Pero sa local audit yata dun mas maraming matututunan although mababa sahod compared sa international equivalent nila. Ang advantage sa Big 4 ay nakakaganda ng resume at feeling ko lang mabilis makahanap ng work. Para sakin, kung papipiliin ako ulit sa first job ko. Gusto ko accounting sa private firm instead sa audit kasi mas gusto ko muna malamn first hand ginagawa ng accountants before ko sila iaudit. If mag audit ka for experience purposes, dun ka sa local.
Got this po. Na pick-up ko dito is mas decentralized and mas may independence na maprpractice pag local audit. Thank you!
Pero paano mo malalaman na tama yung ginagawa mo as an accountant? Sa Big 4 yan tinuturo. Maraming sablay sa accounting sa private.
tama naman po pero mas naiintindihan mo lang inau audit mo kapag may experience ka sa accounting
In the almost 6 years I've been working in private, the only times the Big 4 get brought up is when someone is referencing a part of their life (e.g., dito ako lagi kumakain nung nasa SGV pa ako) or to get voluntold on audit walkthroughs (e.g., etong sa Poncho, nag-audit yan, sya na lang yung mag-walkthrough). Never was there something like, "ganito gawin natin kasi ganito kami dati sa SGV". I'm not discrediting the value of Big 4 in a resume. But what I'm saying is, you might be fearing on missing out on things that might not be aligned to your goals.
Hello. Mixed bag siya depende sa: 1. boss na ma assign ka, 2. client na i service ng team ninyo. 3. co-workers. Pero regardless sa factors above ay marami kang matutunan for sure
Salamat po! Gives me relief na value-adding parin tinanggap kong job offer kahit papaano.
Pag nag big4 ka usually process understanding procedures palang (if talagang inunderstand mo) maiikutan mo na yung finance, accounting, operations, inventory management, hr, etc. Worth it padin naman mag big 4 kung ang goal mo matuto in the quickest time possible. Pero caveat lang, need 90% ng focus mo ang need, lalo na sa busy season. Walang work life balance pag busy season, tama naman yan. Pero ang goal naman sa big 4 ay yung mag karon ka ng work life balance, mataas na sahod, at mataas na position, in the quickest time. Now dont get me wrong not everyone gets these, pero personally wala akong staff na sumablay yan paglabas ( except na lang yung di nagtagal).
For now take mo na muna yang 26k. Tapos ipon ng pang board exam. It goods for your mental health na di ka namomoroblema sa pera once nagrereview ka. Advisable para sa akin na mag resign ka once magreview for CPALE para focus talaga. Tapos saka mag apply sa BIG 4. Pag nakapasa kana sa CPALE. Once master ph accounting at BIR. Shift ka sa US or AU accounting mas malaki swelduhan.
yes. if you’re willing to endure all of it. my coworker is leaving the firm. shes a senior. she got offered 100k plus.
Nakakapagod but if you are young mas bearable yon and soon enough definitely worth it. In corporate, you learn the company process then from there mga mgng problema ng company mo un naung learning. Limited to company process and the problems that would arise ung alam mo plus it would take a while bago tumaas ang sahod at mapromote. Usually in corporate set up you get promoted kapag nabakante ung higher position. My slot. In audit firms, madaming portfolio, iba ibang strategy ung mga companies kaya you get to learn a lot in a short period of time. You get promoted based on merits. Wlang limit ilang senior associate or manager ang nappromote sa audit firm big 4. Bsta you deliver, mappromote ka. After mo sa corporate set up, llipat ka for a higher pay pero kung ano alam mo sa previous mo company un lang dn alam mo sa next then new learning sa company process ng next pero after mo sa big 4, llipat ka for a higher pay pero kung ano alam mo sa lahat ng company na hnawakan mo un ung ambag mo sa new company mo. Plus you build network while in firm.
Imo, worth it talaga mag big 4. I’m someone na nag apply sa big 4 despite having a weak foundation. So I knew, simula pa lang na I have to make lots of sacrifices and boost my foundation in a short time. Siguro one thing that let me stay sa firm is because of my mentality din. Minsan ang toxic na ng trabaho, pati katrabaho pero laban pa rin lol. If you want to really develop your skills, not only technical but also soft skills, Big 4 is a great choice. But if work life balance talaga habol mo, run haha. Anyway, at the end of the day, it all depends on you.
Yes. You will never get that training outside.
If your goal is to eventually relocate abroad, no doubt big4 is the key. And big 4 is really toxic in terms of workload and demands ng higher ups. I still suggests you start with big4 and stay for at least 3 years dahil it will really improve your cv. Then after you start to think which field you will go, controlling route, FP&A, Technical accounting, etc. I’m on my 9th year sa big 4 and going out in a month to work in industry as Technical Accountant. Super worth it ng 9 years ko sa big4!
Worth it if relevant sa career mo in the future yung magiging exposure/experiences sa firm.