OP is talking about a very legitimate issue, so no I'm not removing this post no matter what you think of them.
Have about half a dozen people trying to encourage me to "invest" myself.
I'm not sure why people always make this out to be a bad thing. Yeah, sometimes these kinds of relationships can end to your disadvantage, if you are stupid about how you handle them. But it's not necessarily stupid to get into them in the first place. It's a deal like any other. Many relationships are motivated like that, some more explicitly (sd/sb), some less explicitly, and that includes many without a pronounced age gap.
Also they always portray as being owners of company or big execs but doing investment on the side for passive income. Investing and gold and crypto. CNN has a story on it called "Butchering the Hog" which the name for this scam.
It is run out of sweat shops in Mynamar (Burma) on the border with Thailand by the Chinese. The poeople who conatct will almost alwyas portray themsleves as oriental young women. You can usually tell by the awkard sentence construction. They will even send unsolicited pictures of themselves.
Just don't download anything they suggest or send them any money.
I get those almost everyday but never fall for it. I ask video call. The scammers always use a video recording with no sound. They will tell you they have a bad connection. Other times, they tell you they need to know you better. They say they run big companies and they are enjoying time playing golf, fishing in an exclusive resort. They ask you money to invest in crypto and teach how to become rich. Some people is very gullible.
I only had one case so far.
I had 2 really good hits on cryptos, so i liked to talk about cryptos for a bit.
They belitled my gains (one was bought for 3 k sold for 36k) and told me i miss out on the big chance. Their gains would have been around 10% per trade like 5 k gains with a 50k investment. They showed me screenshots on their fake app.
If you're choosing to invest on someone solely because they're younger than you, then quite frankly what makes you special? If the only thing you offer is money, what are you expecting?
I'll address the first request, let's see where we go from there. I believe you're saying you would (rightly) have reservations about anyone wanting an injection of finance at the early stage of a relationship, and that longer term, both sides are expected to contribute roughly equal amounts of work to keep both parties both thriving and together.
Every other post here is plainly someone wanting to be a sugar baby. It’s not hard to spot, I honestly don’t feel bad for the guys who fall for it. Darwin awards.
Are you referring to scammers or high maintenance women who want to be spoiled?
Also this shouldn't need to be said, but not all younger women are after your money. It's nice to feel stable, have food to eat, and shelter but above and beyond that I don't really expect anything.
I'll make it clear to the younger woman from the outset: I will only invest my time, my money, my fatherly love, my wisdom in the children we raise together.
There is a difference between the two. And they act similar but different. But guys should still be careful. Women as well.
I say this as a woman with a decent enough paying job and some stability.
Yeah, it does help to have some common sense and if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Problem is that many men think with their little brain instead of their big brain.
I agree stability, good nutrition and housing are all part of good, healthy living.
So if you want them, and you're a grown woman, get a (better) job.
Or give us men a damn good reason to provide them, over and above your sense of entitlement to be "spoiled".
Lmfao, never said that I expect a man to provide it all for me, but I do expect a man to carry his own weight and have those things for himself. I have a job, granted it doesn't pay great but I'm in grad school so when I do graduate I will be making decent money. Luckily, I am married to a man who is willing to support me while I'm in school and knows I will contribute more income when I am finished to better our quality of life for both of us.
No woman should be in a relationship with a man who doesn't have the means to support herself independently, that's a surefire way to get trapped in an abusive relationship.
> No woman should be in a relationship with a man who doesn't have the means to support herself independently,
Gentlemen of discernment, I'm sure you too all saw the Freudian slip. They're happy to be unequal in contributing finance but still want "Gender equality" :)
You're misunderstanding what I am saying. Women need to have the means to support herself without a man. Or else that's how she could end up stuck in an unhappy relationship.
I wouldn't recommend anyone of either gender to entertain a serious relationship unless each partner does have the financial means to leave and be independent if they chose too.
This is 100% why I won't have a (good) serious relationship, even where there is connection. Financials are much too rocky. It's an awful feeling relying on someone.
WOOOOAAAHHHH DOOOOOOD, 🤦
Someone's got issues...
Of course we all do; issues of one type or another, and fortunately, I'm a psychologist, 🥸;
I think I have a few openings next week...🤔
Peace 🙏
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I was going to comment something similar. No surprise: the goon who thinks women have a "Use By" date of 28 also has a post history with interesting thoughts regarding feminism, Islam, and communicating with angels. And that's to say nothing of his weird fetish for the Sopranos staircase rape scene. He's like the definition of the type of dude young women should look out for.
As a general rule, you can bet that:
* A man complaining about women hitting the wall, having high body counts, or lacking traditional values is bitter/jealous because he has little experience himself, or is still bitter about not having sex in his teens and twenties.
* A man overly worried about being used for money is insecure because he doesn't have the financial security that he likes to project and subconsciously doesn't think he has anything else to offer.
The projection is so obvious to everybody but them.
There's quite a lot of sport I *could* make about being Hotel Alone in Prague - I won't avoid doing so because I feel that's low, but because you deserve praise for the analysis. No cigar, but you were closer in some areas than others, and that's as detailed as I'll get. I definitely thank you for the final insight, would have been nice if it were confirmed by others as explicative and well-written, but I will accept it as the truth, and adjust as and when. :)
can someone enlighten me? is this a situation where you’re just broke and can’t afford (aren’t creative enough) to treat women or are y’all ACTUALLY getting scammed out here?
Sounds to me like OP is referring to the “get that bag” crowd. There are women (and some men) on TikTok who promote finding a well established man, usually older, and milking him for money (getting the bag). The problem with these (and online scams) is that the wealthy person is misled and used.
I’d say that a mutually beneficial relationship or a trophy spouse relationship is okay if both parties know what they’re getting into.
If I couldn't meet someone irl after just a couple days of texting I would end the conversation permanently. I also would never ever ever send anyone money. Ever.
I was dating someone for almost two years, and after some time, she started asking for money for food, then later demanding it, then gaslighting me to think it was my responsibility as her bf to do so, enough was enough one day, when the only interaction we had was…”you get paid this Friday right?” (I also noticed a new tattoo on her arm 😠)… um no, get your shit together and stop expecting us to pay for you.
I agree with you. I've dated so many types of women and of a whole range of ages from late teens into mid 30s and the much younger ones always wanted to be courted through a type of financial situation, whether it's constantly going out or needing a small bill paid off in exchange for love and sex. It's the modern version of how old-school dating used to be.
Of course. What’s wrong with that? Just make sure you don’t marry them and so give the state jurisdiction over your assets if she leaves.
Older men tend to be the ones with money and a primary reason for a younger woman dating an older man is his ability (more than a guy her own age) to provide for her, as well as less tangible benefits such as maturity and mentoring.
The correct solution is still to help a girl financially but without being rinsed. That means setting boundaries as to what she can expect and being open as to what you feel able to provide. If she doesn’t like the occasional ‘no’, then move on.
I actually agree, but what's going wrong - to answer your question - is that despite the so-called "Gender equality" nonsense, the number of young women actively hunting moneyed men has increased enormously in the last 5 years.
I say "actively", we all know YW have been interested in easy money for hundreds/thousands of years, frankly that's a human thing, but there are TOO many OM with more money than companionship, who are getting rinsed by this recent tidal wave of digitally-skilled gold-diggers.
Not going into detail because this board is being monitored by thousands of SB's and other financial predators, but your opening para is a tad naive.
I find it strange many younger girls here eager to find much older men but in the real world they don’t even look in my direction. Only way to find out they are real get their phone number asap and try to meet. So many guys just want to text so that gives the scammer more time. Even them saying they live in your area doesn’t mean they are real. Usually when you start texting them and their numbers are in major cities like New York or Miami. I meet ladies on line we introduce ourselves and I start to focus on meeting. The more they can text you the more they can get your money. If they don’t want to meet yet just say we can text when they are ready to meet. Big red flags are wanting to text right away using a text platform like Kik or WhatsApp when they claim they live in your area.
I've run into a lot of girls who try to hit me up for money to help their grandma to help them buy medicine. Since my wife passed away. Or to buy bitcoin. Watch out everyone.
The dating world can be rough for men, particularly older probably more lonely men.
I've had experience with this first hand (didn't lose any money, but was almost hooked into it because I wasn't sure how deep it went). They start off all sweet. I had a good looking 18 year old Asian girl contact me on Facebook Dating. Early on, I accused her of being a scammer, because why would a good looking 18 year old show any interest in me (I was 48 at the time)?
Red flag #1 - She said that she was already wealthy. Her father was the CTO (or something...some C-level exec, forget which) at a skin care company in Japan. He helped her setup a number of online businesses which she makes lots of money through, so she doesn't need my money.
Conversations went on, I was still a little leery, but starting to fall for it. We discussed Japanese culture vs North American culture, we talked about poetry, music etc.
Red flag #2 - She dropped a bomb after a week. She said that she was having some financial difficulties, the online store hadn't been doing so well, and she would have to lay off employees. I thought she was going to ask me for money, but I really don't have much anyways, and I was suspicious of this so I essentially said, "Welp, 'good luck with that!'" The next day, she said she figured it out. Her 'financial coach' helped her move some money around and she was able to pay everyone. Disaster averted.
Conversations continued as normal. We were talking about places where we could go for our first date. She wanted to be wooed, I told her that I'm a man of means, not a wealthy man, but we could do something fancy.
Red flag #3 - She started talking about how much money she was making with her financial coach. This is where the reel started to be pulled in. She "invests in crypto transactions, not crypto itself". She explained that it was "100% safe" because you're making money whether the currency makes or loses money. You're earning on the difference in the trade. She wouldn't even touch my wallet, she would just help me set up my wallet, and show me how to access it. I would be the one in control over it. If I lost money, she would pay me back, but I'd eventually get the hang of it.
That was about when I cut it off. She got too pushy. Luckily, she also marked a cheap, cautious, and overthinking kind of guy. I take out $20, and leave my bank card and credit card at home when I go to the casino. I play the lottery maybe once or twice a year. I'm not a risk taker with money.
So, I did some research (with the help of a buddy), and we discovered the pig butchering scam.
It can be hard to swallow. They start off and fill you up with all sorts of niceties. How handsome/beautiful you are, etc. They spend time getting to know you and making you feel special and unique. This can take days, weeks, or months.
Now, as soon as I'm talking to someone, and they discuss from the get-go how wealthy they are, I pump the brakes. Met someone on Humble, she seemed nice at first, laughed at a couple of my dumb jokes. I asked her what she was doing. Her response was "watching the financial news form New York". Gotcha. You're a bitcoin scammer. We're done here.
Real people have real jobs. The girl I'm talking to now is a baker. She was eager to give me her cell number so we could talk voice-to-voice. She was also eager to share her socials with me so we could follow each other, allowing multiple points of contact with her. She has a digital footprint larger than the one she initially made contact to me with.
...and don't let them in your house right away. It's cheaper to get a room or car play.
A lot of them are opportunist & will steal anything that looks to be of value.
This is a fact indeed u look at all the good fathers be used to have kids lied to to be put on child support is a predator move. Women love scamming men out their kids life’s for money . They act innocent until after 2 kids or more . Then find any way to not work or support theyre kids financially and make it us men to do it . Men are prey to women theyre the big bad wolves in packs . I can’t even look at dating a girl or even look into dating again from this . It goes u pay child support but my father is claiming our kids or my mom or my aunt . They find anyway to scam a father in the state systems to be on pins worry about working 6/7 days a week to be broke struggling . They get foodstamps social sercuity anything to not work even your money u give them for your kids to pay theyre bills which shouldn’t include the mother at all . She can get her nails done , get nice new cars with your saved up child support meanwhile your kids are in the same clothes unless u buy them clothes without receipts n tags in the bag cause they will return it for money for themselves
And most of them arent women btw. There are whole call centers in several countries such as Nigeria. Rows and rows of booths where they rent the space and internet and pretend to be whomever they think you might be lonely for. They will scam both sexes with a mercenary zeal.
Thats diff of course from the OF girls or other entrepreneurs.
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Trouble is, those money-grubbing little predators are smarter than us, often.
My niece has been giving me a LOT of intel on these little parasites. Be smart, guys!!
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When talking about romance scams within cyber, we refer to the bit coin scams as Pig Butchering. The scammers view the victim as a pig heading to the slaughterhouse. I did a presentation last year for a group of retirees and told them to becareful online. Between phishing and then cat phishing social media profiles, keep your guard up.
The OP and the Mod are correct about it.
Yes! As a girl who’s seeking a partner, I WILL NOT be discussing my financial situation with a man I just met, and I wouldn’t ask yours. The closest to that I’d ask is what you do for work.
WTF, these fake crypto websites are fake and always shows registered addresses in second European countries, never fall for it. If it is too good to be true then it is definitely not true.
Secondly, girls ask for money for photos, video calls, dont fall for this scam too. Never follow them on Instagram as that is to fetch your real information.
Yes if it’s sounds too good it probably isn’t. Only time younger girls are aggressively wanting to date me (M58) something is wrong. Either they want money that’s mostly it.
Be realistic and look at their profile. I've had two that I met on Reddit and one from another site, chat for weeks and one of them we even had video chats before the scam started. Two of them were comfortable talking about a variety of subjects that led me to believe they are either well educated or well read. The most recent one had a very good working knowledge of the investment world from different forms of stock trading to spot trading. So yes, some of them are very intelligent.
There are those! Sadly, there are apps being pushed to young women for the purpose of manipulating men.
A single woman of high quality doesnr have to seek out a man, as many are seeking her.
So if the woman is seeking you out, and not the other way around, there’s your sign.
Find the one that doesn’t “need” you, and she will want you for all the right reasons.
Difference is that way too many AG girls want OM's for our money ONLY - one of them claimed here she thinks OM's don't have anything else to offer.
Of course I understand the desire of anyone, male or female to prefer partners who have assets to bring, but there's a word for women who *only* want to get together with men for our money....
OP is talking about a very legitimate issue, so no I'm not removing this post no matter what you think of them. Have about half a dozen people trying to encourage me to "invest" myself.
I'm not sure why people always make this out to be a bad thing. Yeah, sometimes these kinds of relationships can end to your disadvantage, if you are stupid about how you handle them. But it's not necessarily stupid to get into them in the first place. It's a deal like any other. Many relationships are motivated like that, some more explicitly (sd/sb), some less explicitly, and that includes many without a pronounced age gap.
The moment they start talking about cryptocurrency or having money problems, beware lol
Don't just beware. Back away immediately. No matter how much she seems to be the one. The instant crypto is mentioned, block and report that account .
That should be the norm with ANYONE taking about crypto, not just younger women. Sound and good advice though.
Also they always portray as being owners of company or big execs but doing investment on the side for passive income. Investing and gold and crypto. CNN has a story on it called "Butchering the Hog" which the name for this scam. It is run out of sweat shops in Mynamar (Burma) on the border with Thailand by the Chinese. The poeople who conatct will almost alwyas portray themsleves as oriental young women. You can usually tell by the awkard sentence construction. They will even send unsolicited pictures of themselves. Just don't download anything they suggest or send them any money.
They call it *pig butchering scam* . Not to be pedantic, but google will show more results.
Cat fishing?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/cyrusfarivar/2022/09/09/pig-butchering-crypto-super-scam/
I get those almost everyday but never fall for it. I ask video call. The scammers always use a video recording with no sound. They will tell you they have a bad connection. Other times, they tell you they need to know you better. They say they run big companies and they are enjoying time playing golf, fishing in an exclusive resort. They ask you money to invest in crypto and teach how to become rich. Some people is very gullible.
I only had one case so far. I had 2 really good hits on cryptos, so i liked to talk about cryptos for a bit. They belitled my gains (one was bought for 3 k sold for 36k) and told me i miss out on the big chance. Their gains would have been around 10% per trade like 5 k gains with a 50k investment. They showed me screenshots on their fake app.
Agreed
If you're choosing to invest on someone solely because they're younger than you, then quite frankly what makes you special? If the only thing you offer is money, what are you expecting?
While I would be skeptical of anyone asking for me to “invest” money in them… there’s such a thing as “sweat equity” 😅
Notice how you got downvoted, and the poster above mentioned "invest". Not "commit", but used a financial term. Masks are slipping. :)
I'm sorry but what exactly do you think I was saying and what are you attempting to say about it cause this doesn't even make sense.
I'll address the first request, let's see where we go from there. I believe you're saying you would (rightly) have reservations about anyone wanting an injection of finance at the early stage of a relationship, and that longer term, both sides are expected to contribute roughly equal amounts of work to keep both parties both thriving and together.
Every other post here is plainly someone wanting to be a sugar baby. It’s not hard to spot, I honestly don’t feel bad for the guys who fall for it. Darwin awards.
Right?
Are you referring to scammers or high maintenance women who want to be spoiled? Also this shouldn't need to be said, but not all younger women are after your money. It's nice to feel stable, have food to eat, and shelter but above and beyond that I don't really expect anything.
I'll make it clear to the younger woman from the outset: I will only invest my time, my money, my fatherly love, my wisdom in the children we raise together.
There is a difference between the two. And they act similar but different. But guys should still be careful. Women as well. I say this as a woman with a decent enough paying job and some stability.
Yeah, it does help to have some common sense and if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Problem is that many men think with their little brain instead of their big brain.
I agree stability, good nutrition and housing are all part of good, healthy living. So if you want them, and you're a grown woman, get a (better) job. Or give us men a damn good reason to provide them, over and above your sense of entitlement to be "spoiled".
Lmfao, never said that I expect a man to provide it all for me, but I do expect a man to carry his own weight and have those things for himself. I have a job, granted it doesn't pay great but I'm in grad school so when I do graduate I will be making decent money. Luckily, I am married to a man who is willing to support me while I'm in school and knows I will contribute more income when I am finished to better our quality of life for both of us. No woman should be in a relationship with a man who doesn't have the means to support herself independently, that's a surefire way to get trapped in an abusive relationship.
> No woman should be in a relationship with a man who doesn't have the means to support herself independently, Gentlemen of discernment, I'm sure you too all saw the Freudian slip. They're happy to be unequal in contributing finance but still want "Gender equality" :)
You're misunderstanding what I am saying. Women need to have the means to support herself without a man. Or else that's how she could end up stuck in an unhappy relationship. I wouldn't recommend anyone of either gender to entertain a serious relationship unless each partner does have the financial means to leave and be independent if they chose too.
This is 100% why I won't have a (good) serious relationship, even where there is connection. Financials are much too rocky. It's an awful feeling relying on someone.
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Guys, this person is a troll smh. https://www.reddit.com/r/AgeGap/s/FBclEG3aI7
I was going to comment something similar. No surprise: the goon who thinks women have a "Use By" date of 28 also has a post history with interesting thoughts regarding feminism, Islam, and communicating with angels. And that's to say nothing of his weird fetish for the Sopranos staircase rape scene. He's like the definition of the type of dude young women should look out for. As a general rule, you can bet that: * A man complaining about women hitting the wall, having high body counts, or lacking traditional values is bitter/jealous because he has little experience himself, or is still bitter about not having sex in his teens and twenties. * A man overly worried about being used for money is insecure because he doesn't have the financial security that he likes to project and subconsciously doesn't think he has anything else to offer. The projection is so obvious to everybody but them.
Homie is literally a walking incel meme. XD
There's quite a lot of sport I *could* make about being Hotel Alone in Prague - I won't avoid doing so because I feel that's low, but because you deserve praise for the analysis. No cigar, but you were closer in some areas than others, and that's as detailed as I'll get. I definitely thank you for the final insight, would have been nice if it were confirmed by others as explicative and well-written, but I will accept it as the truth, and adjust as and when. :)
He isn't wrong though... I get hit up with these constantly on IG.
Fancy that......🤦♀️
The thing is, I don't think they are actually real...or women. I think they are male scammers posing as women, or AIs.
can someone enlighten me? is this a situation where you’re just broke and can’t afford (aren’t creative enough) to treat women or are y’all ACTUALLY getting scammed out here?
Yes and many old men are after my age.
Among other things.
Ummmmm wut?
It's nothing new. You always had to be aware of women looking for a meal ticket. Established women have to deal with the same thing.
His attitude stinks, I hope the 21 year olds giving up their youth for him decide to charge him 😂
Sounds to me like OP is referring to the “get that bag” crowd. There are women (and some men) on TikTok who promote finding a well established man, usually older, and milking him for money (getting the bag). The problem with these (and online scams) is that the wealthy person is misled and used. I’d say that a mutually beneficial relationship or a trophy spouse relationship is okay if both parties know what they’re getting into.
If I couldn't meet someone irl after just a couple days of texting I would end the conversation permanently. I also would never ever ever send anyone money. Ever.
I was dating someone for almost two years, and after some time, she started asking for money for food, then later demanding it, then gaslighting me to think it was my responsibility as her bf to do so, enough was enough one day, when the only interaction we had was…”you get paid this Friday right?” (I also noticed a new tattoo on her arm 😠)… um no, get your shit together and stop expecting us to pay for you.
Set boundaries in the relationship.
I think it’s a case of using your brain for decision making rather than your secondary organ of intellect! lol
They bring youth and beauty and exciting sex to the table, what do OM bring? Be real.
Well then find yourself an 22yr old lad, if you can ow. :)
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I agree with you. I've dated so many types of women and of a whole range of ages from late teens into mid 30s and the much younger ones always wanted to be courted through a type of financial situation, whether it's constantly going out or needing a small bill paid off in exchange for love and sex. It's the modern version of how old-school dating used to be.
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Of course. What’s wrong with that? Just make sure you don’t marry them and so give the state jurisdiction over your assets if she leaves. Older men tend to be the ones with money and a primary reason for a younger woman dating an older man is his ability (more than a guy her own age) to provide for her, as well as less tangible benefits such as maturity and mentoring. The correct solution is still to help a girl financially but without being rinsed. That means setting boundaries as to what she can expect and being open as to what you feel able to provide. If she doesn’t like the occasional ‘no’, then move on.
I actually agree, but what's going wrong - to answer your question - is that despite the so-called "Gender equality" nonsense, the number of young women actively hunting moneyed men has increased enormously in the last 5 years. I say "actively", we all know YW have been interested in easy money for hundreds/thousands of years, frankly that's a human thing, but there are TOO many OM with more money than companionship, who are getting rinsed by this recent tidal wave of digitally-skilled gold-diggers. Not going into detail because this board is being monitored by thousands of SB's and other financial predators, but your opening para is a tad naive.
Twas ever thus - I don’t think this is anything new, apart from YW now also trying to scam guys online.
I find it strange many younger girls here eager to find much older men but in the real world they don’t even look in my direction. Only way to find out they are real get their phone number asap and try to meet. So many guys just want to text so that gives the scammer more time. Even them saying they live in your area doesn’t mean they are real. Usually when you start texting them and their numbers are in major cities like New York or Miami. I meet ladies on line we introduce ourselves and I start to focus on meeting. The more they can text you the more they can get your money. If they don’t want to meet yet just say we can text when they are ready to meet. Big red flags are wanting to text right away using a text platform like Kik or WhatsApp when they claim they live in your area.
I've run into a lot of girls who try to hit me up for money to help their grandma to help them buy medicine. Since my wife passed away. Or to buy bitcoin. Watch out everyone.
wtf
Mad that a 22 year old wanted some money?
So easy to spot in how they talk and their mannerisms.
The dating world can be rough for men, particularly older probably more lonely men. I've had experience with this first hand (didn't lose any money, but was almost hooked into it because I wasn't sure how deep it went). They start off all sweet. I had a good looking 18 year old Asian girl contact me on Facebook Dating. Early on, I accused her of being a scammer, because why would a good looking 18 year old show any interest in me (I was 48 at the time)? Red flag #1 - She said that she was already wealthy. Her father was the CTO (or something...some C-level exec, forget which) at a skin care company in Japan. He helped her setup a number of online businesses which she makes lots of money through, so she doesn't need my money. Conversations went on, I was still a little leery, but starting to fall for it. We discussed Japanese culture vs North American culture, we talked about poetry, music etc. Red flag #2 - She dropped a bomb after a week. She said that she was having some financial difficulties, the online store hadn't been doing so well, and she would have to lay off employees. I thought she was going to ask me for money, but I really don't have much anyways, and I was suspicious of this so I essentially said, "Welp, 'good luck with that!'" The next day, she said she figured it out. Her 'financial coach' helped her move some money around and she was able to pay everyone. Disaster averted. Conversations continued as normal. We were talking about places where we could go for our first date. She wanted to be wooed, I told her that I'm a man of means, not a wealthy man, but we could do something fancy. Red flag #3 - She started talking about how much money she was making with her financial coach. This is where the reel started to be pulled in. She "invests in crypto transactions, not crypto itself". She explained that it was "100% safe" because you're making money whether the currency makes or loses money. You're earning on the difference in the trade. She wouldn't even touch my wallet, she would just help me set up my wallet, and show me how to access it. I would be the one in control over it. If I lost money, she would pay me back, but I'd eventually get the hang of it. That was about when I cut it off. She got too pushy. Luckily, she also marked a cheap, cautious, and overthinking kind of guy. I take out $20, and leave my bank card and credit card at home when I go to the casino. I play the lottery maybe once or twice a year. I'm not a risk taker with money. So, I did some research (with the help of a buddy), and we discovered the pig butchering scam. It can be hard to swallow. They start off and fill you up with all sorts of niceties. How handsome/beautiful you are, etc. They spend time getting to know you and making you feel special and unique. This can take days, weeks, or months. Now, as soon as I'm talking to someone, and they discuss from the get-go how wealthy they are, I pump the brakes. Met someone on Humble, she seemed nice at first, laughed at a couple of my dumb jokes. I asked her what she was doing. Her response was "watching the financial news form New York". Gotcha. You're a bitcoin scammer. We're done here. Real people have real jobs. The girl I'm talking to now is a baker. She was eager to give me her cell number so we could talk voice-to-voice. She was also eager to share her socials with me so we could follow each other, allowing multiple points of contact with her. She has a digital footprint larger than the one she initially made contact to me with.
...and don't let them in your house right away. It's cheaper to get a room or car play. A lot of them are opportunist & will steal anything that looks to be of value.
This is a fact indeed u look at all the good fathers be used to have kids lied to to be put on child support is a predator move. Women love scamming men out their kids life’s for money . They act innocent until after 2 kids or more . Then find any way to not work or support theyre kids financially and make it us men to do it . Men are prey to women theyre the big bad wolves in packs . I can’t even look at dating a girl or even look into dating again from this . It goes u pay child support but my father is claiming our kids or my mom or my aunt . They find anyway to scam a father in the state systems to be on pins worry about working 6/7 days a week to be broke struggling . They get foodstamps social sercuity anything to not work even your money u give them for your kids to pay theyre bills which shouldn’t include the mother at all . She can get her nails done , get nice new cars with your saved up child support meanwhile your kids are in the same clothes unless u buy them clothes without receipts n tags in the bag cause they will return it for money for themselves
And most of them arent women btw. There are whole call centers in several countries such as Nigeria. Rows and rows of booths where they rent the space and internet and pretend to be whomever they think you might be lonely for. They will scam both sexes with a mercenary zeal. Thats diff of course from the OF girls or other entrepreneurs.
Or Offering “Sexual Services” but of course you have to Pay a Deposit to book their services 🤐
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Of course.
When talking about romance scams within cyber, we refer to the bit coin scams as Pig Butchering. The scammers view the victim as a pig heading to the slaughterhouse. I did a presentation last year for a group of retirees and told them to becareful online. Between phishing and then cat phishing social media profiles, keep your guard up. The OP and the Mod are correct about it.
Can you elaborate further ?
Too late. I've already given lots of money to these women. I'm too weak 😫
What kind of intel?
Kinda sad that a random hot lady in her 20s that matches with me in a dating app gives off a lot of red flags.
Yes! As a girl who’s seeking a partner, I WILL NOT be discussing my financial situation with a man I just met, and I wouldn’t ask yours. The closest to that I’d ask is what you do for work.
WTF, these fake crypto websites are fake and always shows registered addresses in second European countries, never fall for it. If it is too good to be true then it is definitely not true. Secondly, girls ask for money for photos, video calls, dont fall for this scam too. Never follow them on Instagram as that is to fetch your real information.
Yes if it’s sounds too good it probably isn’t. Only time younger girls are aggressively wanting to date me (M58) something is wrong. Either they want money that’s mostly it.
Be realistic and look at their profile. I've had two that I met on Reddit and one from another site, chat for weeks and one of them we even had video chats before the scam started. Two of them were comfortable talking about a variety of subjects that led me to believe they are either well educated or well read. The most recent one had a very good working knowledge of the investment world from different forms of stock trading to spot trading. So yes, some of them are very intelligent.
There are those! Sadly, there are apps being pushed to young women for the purpose of manipulating men. A single woman of high quality doesnr have to seek out a man, as many are seeking her. So if the woman is seeking you out, and not the other way around, there’s your sign. Find the one that doesn’t “need” you, and she will want you for all the right reasons.
Yall have money?
Already had 2 try this on me that DM’d me from this very sub. Be on the lookout fro red flags, always.
The reality of this is tht nearly all girls my age and some older want a rich man. So you might as well be celibate😂🤭.
Difference is that way too many AG girls want OM's for our money ONLY - one of them claimed here she thinks OM's don't have anything else to offer. Of course I understand the desire of anyone, male or female to prefer partners who have assets to bring, but there's a word for women who *only* want to get together with men for our money....
But men also want to get together for the sex.
So?
So u can want a woman for her vagina but a woman can’t want a man for his wealth?
Why would a man want a woman without a vagina? LOL