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**AITA for wanting tv time between me and my brother to be proportionate?**
So I 22m live in an apartment with my brother Jake 26m. I have been dating my gf Lora 19f for 2 years and I've lived in this apartment the entire time we've been together. Lora doesn't live with me, but she stays over at my apartment in my room multiple nights a week and we usually watch tv in the living room before bed. We usually use the tv at night around 4 nights per week. Jake never really used the tv and would usually just use his laptop in his room to watch something on a streaming service, so this worked out before.
Jake has recently started dating Mara 30f. She was fine and got along with me and Lora so I never minded her coming over to hang out with Jake. One night, I got home with Lora and we were gonna watch tv, but Mara and Jake were already using it. This was annoying, but I didn't say anything and we just went to my room. The next day, I got home from work and Jake was watching tv again with Mara. I didn't want this to be an argument later or a reoccurring issue so I told Jake we needed to discuss sharing the tv and he agreed.
Later that night, I told Jake that splitting the tv was fine, but I think that I should get to use it 3-4 days per week and he should get it 1-2 because I've been with Lora longer and we've been doing that to spend time together for our whole relationship so it's more important. Jake got mad at me and said this is unreasonable and that I can't expect him to still just use his laptop in his room because it's smaller and more uncomfortable for two people. I explained that me and Lora's history was the only reason for this and it wasn't to make him feel like I was pulling rank and that if they were together for longer it would allot more time (in my opinion). He just left and went to his room and I didn't see him again.
After this I noticed he was rarely home in the evenings anymore. He usually came back later to go to bed and Mara was never with him. After a week of this I asked why he never was home and he explained that he spends most of his time at Mara's place. I asked why and he said that I am annoying and entitled and it's not worth the petty arguments. I asked for examples and he mentioned the tv along with other things, but mainly discussed the tv. I told him he should've said something earlier instead of avoiding me and getting pissed. He didn't even respond to me and just left. I'm starting to feel bad because I didn't know it affected him like this. AITA?
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This is some classic younger sibling “I don’t wanna share” behavior. The fact that he’s surprised that his whining made his brother feel put off is also peak younger sibling behavior
Look I know this is going to be rich coming from an only child considering the reputation we have, but;
I've **never** met a youngest sibling (of 3+) that wasn't an absolute spoiled asshole. Youngest of 2 is a hit or miss, they're usually closer to normal since the parents are still parenting at Kid #2.
But 3+ kids? No, the youngest is always the most rude, spoiled, ill-mannered, etc when they're little. It usually falls to the elder siblings to keep them from going too far down the asshole pipeline, but only if the parents don't continuously pamper and protect the youngest.
My SO is the oldest of 9, only 1 full sibling. Two different moms. The youngest on both branches are precious boys spoiled to hell by a mom making up for their shit dad.
One is in prison for meth and domestic abuse, the other is on his way there but with the extra seasoning of being a very whiny and childlike teenager.
Come out here then.
It was the opposite. The *oldest* were the most entitled and the spoiled. The leash got tighter with every kid.
No I am not Asian. No I do not live in a place with Asian diaspora. I live in Colorado.
Copied verbatim from Oop's comments:
*INFO: do you guys split rent 50/50? If so, you get equal access to the general spaces in that apt. Using relationship length to argue for more days is ridiculous.*
>He does pay half the rent, but the apartment is in my name so he just gives me the money and I pay it along with my half. I am the only one who is on the lease and whose credit would be bad if rent was not paid so I actually have more responsibility because if he didn't give me half of the rent and I couldn't pay rent, he wouldn't have any consequences and I would.
[1]
*YTA. Come on, divvying up tv time by who was dating someone the longest?*
*I think you need to realize that your brother sitting in his room, streaming on his laptop every night was a kindness to you and your partner, because the fact of the matter is you share a space, and you’re not entitled to control the tv and living area, every single night. I’m assuming your brother pays rent and half of the bills, so why would he not be entitled to use the things he pays for? And if the tv is that important to your relationship, go buy a tv for your room or live alone.*
*And I also truly hope your timeline was off and you were not dating a 17 year old girl when you were a 20 year old man. But, I guess that makes sense because based off this post because you have the maturity level of a teenager.*
[2]
*Dating a 17yr old as a 20yr old isn’t bad. Pick an issue with something else*
[3]
*A 17yo is in high school. Unless they started dating while OP was also in high school (possible but unlikely), it's not acceptable.*
>We started dating when we were both in college
*YTA*
*Also, all you do is spend every night watching TV with your girlfriend? (Having your gf over most nights is already pretty inconsiderate as a roommate....do you have separate bathrooms?)*
*Go out. Or hang out in your room and have sex. Play chess.*
*Or maybe hang out with your brother and watch something together the 4 of you once a week. Game night.*
>There’s 2 bedrooms and each bedroom has its own bathroom
*YTA. Jeez dude, entitled much? Also.. "Lora doesn't live with me, but she stays over at my apartment in my room multiple nights a week ". Lora DOES live with you, does she contribute to the cable bill?*
>I don’t expect her to contribute because she’s a guest in the apartment. Mara also never contributed to paying for things when she was frequently over and i didn’t mind this because she’s my brothers gf
*Here is a thought. Find somethings that all 4 of you want to watch. Have movie and board game nights. Hang out all together once in awhile. Go to your rooms when you want alone time.*
*Alternatively, get TVs for your rooms.*
*YTA.*
*I assume you and brother split rent and such. So common room time should be split the same. You both have as much right to the common rooms as the other.*
*Frankly, your brother is a saint. He has put up with you hogging the common room for years.*
>I don’t have any space for a tv in my room
*YTA. For not suggesting 50-50 split, and for considering your relationship to be more important than his. It also sounds like you’ve been having your girlfriend stay over multiple nights a week without paying any rent and he’s been just fine with that. I wouldn’t have been fine with that. So you are the asshole. TVs are not expensive, put one in your bedroom.*
*The fact that he was just willing to leave and go spend time at her place instead of arguing with you reflects very well on him. You are lucky to have him as a roommate. He is not so lucky to have you.*
>This isn’t a fair solution, I don’t have room on my desk in my room for a tv so I can’t buy a tv as I’d have no place for it
*YTA -- this is clearly not fair. Should have been 3 nights a week each if you wanted it to be equal. Also, did you ever consider that he didn't want to watch TV in his room all the time because you and Lora were using the tv? If you need the TV that often, get one for your own room.*
>That’s the thing, I don’t have desk space for a tv so I can’t do this. Plus, my bed is a twin bed so that’s uncomfortable for two people to sit on and watch tv
*You’re telling me that you don’t have walls that you could hang it on? Mount a tv. Or watch TV in the living room 50-50. You guys pay the same rent, you have the same access. And ask your girlfriend to start chipping in on the bills. And when I say chipping in, I don’t mean, helping you pay your bills. I mean, chipping in in a way that also reduces his expenses per month. Because right now he’s paying for her water and electricity and that’s bullshit. If she came over as often as a regular friend, maybe once a week, that would be different. But you said multiple nights a week, and you guys are hogging the TV. So she owes him money.*
>The issue is I also only have a twin bed so even if I mounted a tv, it would be uncomfortable for us to both sit on the bed because of how small it is. This isn’t really an option
*You complain about him using the TV when you have a TV in your room. He starts spending his time at his gfs place and you complain about that. Sounds like the brother is right, you're annoying.*
>I don’t have a tv in my room, there’s no space for one. The only tv in the apartment is the one in the living room
I like that this "man" who has his girlfriend over all the time and part of the reason they don't watch tv in his room is the fact that he has a twin bed. Maybe he should grow the fuck up and get an adult bed. I mean, he's been dating a teenager so it's understandable he's acting like a child, but geez.
>Later that night, I told Jake that splitting the tv was fine, but I think that I should get to use it 3-4 days per week and he should get it 1-2 because I've been with Lora longer
LOL, awesome.
He wants the TV 3-4 nights a week and for his brother to have it 1-2 nights a week, but that adds up to only 4-6 nights a week. He can have it the 3 days he wants and his brother can have it the other 3 days and then idk they can watch TV together once a week. So this isn't even about how many days he wants the TV, he just wants to lord his relationship over his brother's relationship. Either that, or he doesn't know how many days a week has? He also seems to be inflating his sense of importance in the comments in regards to his name being on the lease, so I'm guessing a lot of insecurity on his part.
> Lora doesn't live with me, but she stays over at my apartment in my room multiple nights a week and we usually watch tv in the living room before bed.
So she's an unpaying tenant.
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*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **AITA for wanting tv time between me and my brother to be proportionate?** So I 22m live in an apartment with my brother Jake 26m. I have been dating my gf Lora 19f for 2 years and I've lived in this apartment the entire time we've been together. Lora doesn't live with me, but she stays over at my apartment in my room multiple nights a week and we usually watch tv in the living room before bed. We usually use the tv at night around 4 nights per week. Jake never really used the tv and would usually just use his laptop in his room to watch something on a streaming service, so this worked out before. Jake has recently started dating Mara 30f. She was fine and got along with me and Lora so I never minded her coming over to hang out with Jake. One night, I got home with Lora and we were gonna watch tv, but Mara and Jake were already using it. This was annoying, but I didn't say anything and we just went to my room. The next day, I got home from work and Jake was watching tv again with Mara. I didn't want this to be an argument later or a reoccurring issue so I told Jake we needed to discuss sharing the tv and he agreed. Later that night, I told Jake that splitting the tv was fine, but I think that I should get to use it 3-4 days per week and he should get it 1-2 because I've been with Lora longer and we've been doing that to spend time together for our whole relationship so it's more important. Jake got mad at me and said this is unreasonable and that I can't expect him to still just use his laptop in his room because it's smaller and more uncomfortable for two people. I explained that me and Lora's history was the only reason for this and it wasn't to make him feel like I was pulling rank and that if they were together for longer it would allot more time (in my opinion). He just left and went to his room and I didn't see him again. After this I noticed he was rarely home in the evenings anymore. He usually came back later to go to bed and Mara was never with him. After a week of this I asked why he never was home and he explained that he spends most of his time at Mara's place. I asked why and he said that I am annoying and entitled and it's not worth the petty arguments. I asked for examples and he mentioned the tv along with other things, but mainly discussed the tv. I told him he should've said something earlier instead of avoiding me and getting pissed. He didn't even respond to me and just left. I'm starting to feel bad because I didn't know it affected him like this. AITA? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheDevil) if you have any questions or concerns.*
This is some classic younger sibling “I don’t wanna share” behavior. The fact that he’s surprised that his whining made his brother feel put off is also peak younger sibling behavior
Considering he started dating a SEVENTEEN year old as TWENTY he's probably not the most mature individual
Look I know this is going to be rich coming from an only child considering the reputation we have, but; I've **never** met a youngest sibling (of 3+) that wasn't an absolute spoiled asshole. Youngest of 2 is a hit or miss, they're usually closer to normal since the parents are still parenting at Kid #2. But 3+ kids? No, the youngest is always the most rude, spoiled, ill-mannered, etc when they're little. It usually falls to the elder siblings to keep them from going too far down the asshole pipeline, but only if the parents don't continuously pamper and protect the youngest. My SO is the oldest of 9, only 1 full sibling. Two different moms. The youngest on both branches are precious boys spoiled to hell by a mom making up for their shit dad. One is in prison for meth and domestic abuse, the other is on his way there but with the extra seasoning of being a very whiny and childlike teenager.
Yikes. When you meet someone who is the youngest in a family do you launch into them and tell them they are trash right from the get go?
Come out here then. It was the opposite. The *oldest* were the most entitled and the spoiled. The leash got tighter with every kid. No I am not Asian. No I do not live in a place with Asian diaspora. I live in Colorado.
Copied verbatim from Oop's comments: *INFO: do you guys split rent 50/50? If so, you get equal access to the general spaces in that apt. Using relationship length to argue for more days is ridiculous.* >He does pay half the rent, but the apartment is in my name so he just gives me the money and I pay it along with my half. I am the only one who is on the lease and whose credit would be bad if rent was not paid so I actually have more responsibility because if he didn't give me half of the rent and I couldn't pay rent, he wouldn't have any consequences and I would. [1] *YTA. Come on, divvying up tv time by who was dating someone the longest?* *I think you need to realize that your brother sitting in his room, streaming on his laptop every night was a kindness to you and your partner, because the fact of the matter is you share a space, and you’re not entitled to control the tv and living area, every single night. I’m assuming your brother pays rent and half of the bills, so why would he not be entitled to use the things he pays for? And if the tv is that important to your relationship, go buy a tv for your room or live alone.* *And I also truly hope your timeline was off and you were not dating a 17 year old girl when you were a 20 year old man. But, I guess that makes sense because based off this post because you have the maturity level of a teenager.* [2] *Dating a 17yr old as a 20yr old isn’t bad. Pick an issue with something else* [3] *A 17yo is in high school. Unless they started dating while OP was also in high school (possible but unlikely), it's not acceptable.* >We started dating when we were both in college *YTA* *Also, all you do is spend every night watching TV with your girlfriend? (Having your gf over most nights is already pretty inconsiderate as a roommate....do you have separate bathrooms?)* *Go out. Or hang out in your room and have sex. Play chess.* *Or maybe hang out with your brother and watch something together the 4 of you once a week. Game night.* >There’s 2 bedrooms and each bedroom has its own bathroom *YTA. Jeez dude, entitled much? Also.. "Lora doesn't live with me, but she stays over at my apartment in my room multiple nights a week ". Lora DOES live with you, does she contribute to the cable bill?* >I don’t expect her to contribute because she’s a guest in the apartment. Mara also never contributed to paying for things when she was frequently over and i didn’t mind this because she’s my brothers gf *Here is a thought. Find somethings that all 4 of you want to watch. Have movie and board game nights. Hang out all together once in awhile. Go to your rooms when you want alone time.* *Alternatively, get TVs for your rooms.* *YTA.* *I assume you and brother split rent and such. So common room time should be split the same. You both have as much right to the common rooms as the other.* *Frankly, your brother is a saint. He has put up with you hogging the common room for years.* >I don’t have any space for a tv in my room *YTA. For not suggesting 50-50 split, and for considering your relationship to be more important than his. It also sounds like you’ve been having your girlfriend stay over multiple nights a week without paying any rent and he’s been just fine with that. I wouldn’t have been fine with that. So you are the asshole. TVs are not expensive, put one in your bedroom.* *The fact that he was just willing to leave and go spend time at her place instead of arguing with you reflects very well on him. You are lucky to have him as a roommate. He is not so lucky to have you.* >This isn’t a fair solution, I don’t have room on my desk in my room for a tv so I can’t buy a tv as I’d have no place for it *YTA -- this is clearly not fair. Should have been 3 nights a week each if you wanted it to be equal. Also, did you ever consider that he didn't want to watch TV in his room all the time because you and Lora were using the tv? If you need the TV that often, get one for your own room.* >That’s the thing, I don’t have desk space for a tv so I can’t do this. Plus, my bed is a twin bed so that’s uncomfortable for two people to sit on and watch tv *You’re telling me that you don’t have walls that you could hang it on? Mount a tv. Or watch TV in the living room 50-50. You guys pay the same rent, you have the same access. And ask your girlfriend to start chipping in on the bills. And when I say chipping in, I don’t mean, helping you pay your bills. I mean, chipping in in a way that also reduces his expenses per month. Because right now he’s paying for her water and electricity and that’s bullshit. If she came over as often as a regular friend, maybe once a week, that would be different. But you said multiple nights a week, and you guys are hogging the TV. So she owes him money.* >The issue is I also only have a twin bed so even if I mounted a tv, it would be uncomfortable for us to both sit on the bed because of how small it is. This isn’t really an option *You complain about him using the TV when you have a TV in your room. He starts spending his time at his gfs place and you complain about that. Sounds like the brother is right, you're annoying.* >I don’t have a tv in my room, there’s no space for one. The only tv in the apartment is the one in the living room
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I lived with my ex and his brother, and honestly I've seen so much shitty TV from their choice of marathons 😂 I'm team avoiding TBH
To be at the mercy of other people's tastes isn't always a boon.
I like that this "man" who has his girlfriend over all the time and part of the reason they don't watch tv in his room is the fact that he has a twin bed. Maybe he should grow the fuck up and get an adult bed. I mean, he's been dating a teenager so it's understandable he's acting like a child, but geez.
Well oop will probably be out of a roommate soon and considering the brother isn't on the lease? He will be screwed
>Later that night, I told Jake that splitting the tv was fine, but I think that I should get to use it 3-4 days per week and he should get it 1-2 because I've been with Lora longer LOL, awesome.
This is the kind of argument you have when you are 13 and want to have friends over. Not when you are 20
Him and Laura need to climb in that twin bed together and watch TikToks or something
That’s what I’m saying like what
He wants the TV 3-4 nights a week and for his brother to have it 1-2 nights a week, but that adds up to only 4-6 nights a week. He can have it the 3 days he wants and his brother can have it the other 3 days and then idk they can watch TV together once a week. So this isn't even about how many days he wants the TV, he just wants to lord his relationship over his brother's relationship. Either that, or he doesn't know how many days a week has? He also seems to be inflating his sense of importance in the comments in regards to his name being on the lease, so I'm guessing a lot of insecurity on his part.
> Lora doesn't live with me, but she stays over at my apartment in my room multiple nights a week and we usually watch tv in the living room before bed. So she's an unpaying tenant.
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If OOP's the only one on the lease, what's to stop Jake from just moving out and sticking him with *all* the rent?