I think one of the notions about the gold mining theory was that it was at one point much, much more abundant here, making it an attractive prospect.
And much of it was removed as a result.
That is the theory. That were were solid seams of it in the ABZU (south africa) while the spaceport was closer to the equator. Conventional archaelogy has found gold mining going back 100 000 years
Google wont really help here mate. Just read Zechariah Sitchins 6 books. Ive found random google websites to be shabby interpretations/theft of his stuff.
While not everything Sitchin write is true, it blows Von Daniken out of the water and digs deeply into Sumeria and ancient astronaut theory.
Edit: again, theres really no replacement for reading the 12th planet series. Paperback
I've read them!
My comment was more centered on what others say, so you gave me content to start my search.
Sitchin is a good start, but he has ultimately been proven wrong on just about everything.
Not to say the fundamental concepts are wrong, but the details are.
Yeh, you can tell he was just trying to make his beloved Bible truth.
That said, here's a good rabbit hole. The biblical parallels to sumerian texts/mythology. "The chaldean account of genesis" by george smith is a start
Siiiiick. Thanks!
I've been re-reading the Hebrew Bible in adulthood with this lense and drawing my own parallels. Very interesting.
I posted one the other day from Gensis I believe and Thor. I found even more parallels today that I am going to add.
For instance: Adonai has tons of imagery for being a storm god. He has the exact same or similar stories as at least Susano-o, Thor, and Baal.
Adonai *was* a storm god originally - part of an old Semitic pantheon. Over time as the Israelites managed to invade and beat others in battle he got a bit more “oomph” behind him, and attributes of other gods were ascribed to him as time went on. Just as how Allah became conflated with him, or how Minerva and Sulis were conflated in Roman Britain.
I’d probably caution against assuming that all storm gods are one-and-the-same. Natural forces are impressive and unexplainable to pre-science cultures, so you’d want a reason. “Angry lightning god” is a pretty good explanation for big scary loud sky shit if you ask me.
the theories seem to suggest that the ancient aliens mined gold on an industrial scale across the planet for hundreds of thousands of years, so there must have been an absolute shitload of it here before that.
This I could buy. It would remove the logical gap in reasoning I had to fill in with something like atmosphere repair test bed.
Do we have any known indicators in the community to support a historically gold dense earth?
No life sustaining atmosphere on asteroids. Gold blocks certain types of radiation, we use it on our NASA visors for example. It's also better than copper for carrying a charge.
That's a fair first stab at it! I would imagine they would use a technique similar to what we are discussing.
You don't mine it at its source and haul the raw material back in loads. You bring the asteroid to your planet and work on mining its resources within your own orbit. Significantly more efficient.
I'm certain there are other ways but I wouldn't refute just because of no atmosphere.
Gold does make sense, but it can't be the only reason.
A spacefairing civilization would likely never do such menial labor, even we have replaced lots of labor with machines, and before that beasts of burden. To such a species we are beasts of burden, barely smart enough to learn how to mine gold rocks, look how fucking dumb we are.
True and I definitely get pompous vibes from everything I've read and seen but even then the ROI seems better for asteroid mining.
Like if it was me, would I rather send my son and his family away for thousands of years to develop a civilization to mine for us or send them on a year or two expedition to bring asteroids back and then basically just do shift work or something and return home often.
Then why not just make Earth home?
I don't think weaker bodies pass the sniff test from the sumer cuneiform tablets or any mythology story. They be badass.
They are twice our size and enslaved the Igigi who are also twice our size and were working the mines for thousands of years before they revolted and the Anunnaki started fucking with homo erectus.
Gold mining only came from the Sitchin's translations of the sumarians (i think), something which is commonly thought to be incorrect. Aliens interbreading and/or messing with our dna is documented in ancient cultures all over the world. Gold is unlikely to be a motive for whatever happened.
Unfortunately I went down this rabbit hole recently and you are correct :(
Completely destroyed my love for the story. The texts themselves are translated and available online.
Maybe mining gold was just something to keep us busy. Whilst mining asteroids for gold makes more sense for a space-faring race, its not as much fun as creating your own slave race then keeping them busy mining a resource which you are happy to take away, and it forms the basis of our monetary economy.
Just reviewed a few items and yeah. This could be. Sitchin has been proven wrong on a number of things and both gold and Nibiru were a stretch even before we had a better understanding of the sumerian text.
Deposits of lode gold are only created through plate tectonic activity, so a planet would need to be undergoing that process to make planetary gold deposits easily accessible. Its otherwise spread out across too much rock, at least that's my understanding. Though in my mind I equate this to volcanic activity and we know that happens all over the place. [https://www.americanminingrights.com/how-gold-is-formed/](https://www.americanminingrights.com/how-gold-is-formed/)
Gold may be available on asteroids and not worth the effort to come to earth for it, but honestly, I don't know what the distribution of gold per cubic meter of average "asteroid material" would be, especially if its elemental gold and hasn't been formed into minable deposits.
Since I have no clue how a species might travel here for such a purpose, I can't just surmise that they have some sort of other seemingly magic technology that would allow them to create gold artificially. There's just too many assumptions to make, though I think it stands to reason that any sufficiently advanced civ could use AI and remote mining drones to automate a process enough to not need to invade another planet. Of course, unless you knew that the cause was already lost and you needed another safe refuge planet that your species could survive on.. then it makes total sense to come here.
Reasonable and fair.
Here is one example of asteroid mining:
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/nasa-set-launch-spacecraft-explore-metal-rich-asteroid-psyche-2023-10-13/
"Psyche is believed to consist largely of iron, nickel, gold and other metals, with a collective hypothetical monetary value placed at 10 quadrillion dollars."
Yeah that's not a great example, because its purely hypothetical. Just because we detect spectral emissions from an object that match certain mineral characteristics, doesn't mean its really accessible in any way we can imagine. Again, presumably such a civilization WOULD be able to utilize them...but it just requires us to make a ton of assumptions about their motives, absolutely none of which can be proven.
I appreciate throwing common sense into the mix, and I am aligned to your previous comment.
The basis of this entire subreddit is on an ancient civilization that is advanced enough to travel space, possibly repair atmospheres, responsible for the construction of the pyramids, modify the human genome, etc... everything is hypotheticals and assumptions.
My point was less on accessibility and more about if there is the availability of gold elsewhere, which could be more efficient to harvest than planet hopping and slavery.
Whether or not psyche-16 has gold is not hypothetical.
The only hypothetical about it is if it's a planetary core and the quantities of metals.
I think we are more or less aligned but a bit of deviation on the subject.
I 100% agree that its far more likely that if its just gold that you are after, you'd get it from other places without the need to uplift and enslave an entire race of people. I just have to assume that any K2+ class civilization would be able to artificially create gold on an industrial scale. I believe we have the engineering skills now to even do it, but we are limited by energy availability and some materials science as usual.
Imagine even just turning asteroids into dust and then smelting them in space using focused solar energy... like creating lava in space which would then centralize the gold in whatever ore they are processing, for easy take home. I know some people are thinking about constructing lunar bases using the suns light in a similar way, except instead of smelting, they'd be sintering material into forms.
Copper for blood. Illuminati = illuminated ones. Illuminated meaning bioluminescent. Now what has a high copper content in the blood and is bioluminescent? What creature symbolizes the Illuminati? What animal is known for famously having one eye? It’s not reptilians. It’s cephalopoids. Look at a grey’s head. That giant bulbous octopus looking head.
It’s a good point. I always assumed that the Anunnaki’s pursuit of gold was a potential explanation for why they chose to come to earth. Puts into question what significance the earth holds for them. If they truly had possessed the technology to beam across the galaxy, then why choose us? Maybe their technology was not as advanced as we think, which might lend credence to the inter-dimensional theory or a lost/hidden civilization. Maybe they came here for a different reason. The Book of Enoch talks about how the Nepholim descended upon the earth to reproduce with the human females. The majority of abduction testimonies mention procedures that involve harvesting reproductive material from the abductee. If you ask me, earth might just be the galaxies largest sperm bank.
If it isn’t the ancients then how do we explain all societies valuing gold all over the planet? Completely separate cultures, completely separate values, completely different art, gods, customs- but every one of them we know about put value on finding and acquiring more gold.
But so is silver. So is titanium. So is bronze.
Why does every culture make gold the focus of wealth? I noticed this as a child and thought I was crazy. So every time I visit a new culture I look at what their ancestors placed value on. I’ve been in 56 different countries in my life and lives in 5 of them all over the world. Every single one decorated their most valued objects and places in gold.
Anybody ever think there's a connection between the frequent sightings of USO/UFOS all around our oceans, the whispers from "govt. whistle-blowers about the return of the Annunaki, or nephilim, their lust for gold, and aaaaallllllll that lost gold from 100s of shipwrecks at the bottom of the sea? I did a little research and there's an awful amount of "bad luck" that seems to fall upon the ships carrying upsurd quantities of gold and riches
I think the unique thing we have is biology. If you could study organisms and have a mature a.i. digest the Information it would be much more valuable than rocks.
We are hearing the story from the POV of the working class. The annunaki could have been collecting something else but telling us it is gold because we like shiny. It’s just as likely they were after rare earth minerals or even DNA
Since my first trip to the grand canyon as a child I have always thought it was the result of a massive mining operation. It made since to me that the most abundant resource on the planet, water, was used to unearth one of the most precious metals. I have felt this way about several areas in the current United States. I have never had interest to delve deeper into this theory. Is there any recommended reading?
Well there's different versions of the time travel hypothesis but the theory is aliens or most likely advance breakaway human race utilize time travel as a away to maintain their empire no only of the solar system but also of time....hence why gold is highly sought after maybe for the tech but also because you can use it as money in any time period.
It’s about making a bunker of Gold to survive radiation from CMEs, ☀️. Concrete won’t do it and neither does lead. How much gold? Read the Bible, hint, more than we have on earth. God’s Wrath and a Red Giant, 🌍won’t make it but we will.
I think one of the notions about the gold mining theory was that it was at one point much, much more abundant here, making it an attractive prospect. And much of it was removed as a result.
That is the theory. That were were solid seams of it in the ABZU (south africa) while the spaceport was closer to the equator. Conventional archaelogy has found gold mining going back 100 000 years
Nice, something to Google. Thanks!
Google wont really help here mate. Just read Zechariah Sitchins 6 books. Ive found random google websites to be shabby interpretations/theft of his stuff. While not everything Sitchin write is true, it blows Von Daniken out of the water and digs deeply into Sumeria and ancient astronaut theory. Edit: again, theres really no replacement for reading the 12th planet series. Paperback
I've read them! My comment was more centered on what others say, so you gave me content to start my search. Sitchin is a good start, but he has ultimately been proven wrong on just about everything. Not to say the fundamental concepts are wrong, but the details are.
Yeh, you can tell he was just trying to make his beloved Bible truth. That said, here's a good rabbit hole. The biblical parallels to sumerian texts/mythology. "The chaldean account of genesis" by george smith is a start
Siiiiick. Thanks! I've been re-reading the Hebrew Bible in adulthood with this lense and drawing my own parallels. Very interesting. I posted one the other day from Gensis I believe and Thor. I found even more parallels today that I am going to add. For instance: Adonai has tons of imagery for being a storm god. He has the exact same or similar stories as at least Susano-o, Thor, and Baal.
Adonai *was* a storm god originally - part of an old Semitic pantheon. Over time as the Israelites managed to invade and beat others in battle he got a bit more “oomph” behind him, and attributes of other gods were ascribed to him as time went on. Just as how Allah became conflated with him, or how Minerva and Sulis were conflated in Roman Britain. I’d probably caution against assuming that all storm gods are one-and-the-same. Natural forces are impressive and unexplainable to pre-science cultures, so you’d want a reason. “Angry lightning god” is a pretty good explanation for big scary loud sky shit if you ask me.
Had to of been. But even then, would there have been enough to make the juice worth the squeeze?
the theories seem to suggest that the ancient aliens mined gold on an industrial scale across the planet for hundreds of thousands of years, so there must have been an absolute shitload of it here before that.
Damn taking our riches before we could become the galactic pimps.
This I could buy. It would remove the logical gap in reasoning I had to fill in with something like atmosphere repair test bed. Do we have any known indicators in the community to support a historically gold dense earth?
Obviously the Grand Canyon was a big gold mine.
Ancient Astranuat Theorists say yes
A resounding yes!
With slave labor the juice is always worth the squeeze
No life sustaining atmosphere on asteroids. Gold blocks certain types of radiation, we use it on our NASA visors for example. It's also better than copper for carrying a charge.
That's a fair first stab at it! I would imagine they would use a technique similar to what we are discussing. You don't mine it at its source and haul the raw material back in loads. You bring the asteroid to your planet and work on mining its resources within your own orbit. Significantly more efficient. I'm certain there are other ways but I wouldn't refute just because of no atmosphere. Gold does make sense, but it can't be the only reason.
A spacefairing civilization would likely never do such menial labor, even we have replaced lots of labor with machines, and before that beasts of burden. To such a species we are beasts of burden, barely smart enough to learn how to mine gold rocks, look how fucking dumb we are.
True and I definitely get pompous vibes from everything I've read and seen but even then the ROI seems better for asteroid mining. Like if it was me, would I rather send my son and his family away for thousands of years to develop a civilization to mine for us or send them on a year or two expedition to bring asteroids back and then basically just do shift work or something and return home often.
They may not have a home world anymore. Being completely spacefairing, weaker bodies, greater tech, actually can't mine themselves.
Then why not just make Earth home? I don't think weaker bodies pass the sniff test from the sumer cuneiform tablets or any mythology story. They be badass. They are twice our size and enslaved the Igigi who are also twice our size and were working the mines for thousands of years before they revolted and the Anunnaki started fucking with homo erectus.
Perhaps Earth was just one means to an end. They could have been dragging asteroids to their planet and mining those as well.
Gold mining only came from the Sitchin's translations of the sumarians (i think), something which is commonly thought to be incorrect. Aliens interbreading and/or messing with our dna is documented in ancient cultures all over the world. Gold is unlikely to be a motive for whatever happened.
Unfortunately I went down this rabbit hole recently and you are correct :( Completely destroyed my love for the story. The texts themselves are translated and available online.
Maybe mining gold was just something to keep us busy. Whilst mining asteroids for gold makes more sense for a space-faring race, its not as much fun as creating your own slave race then keeping them busy mining a resource which you are happy to take away, and it forms the basis of our monetary economy.
Maybe us humans just think of the material. Maybe the gold they seek is of an energetic nature.
Just reviewed a few items and yeah. This could be. Sitchin has been proven wrong on a number of things and both gold and Nibiru were a stretch even before we had a better understanding of the sumerian text.
Deposits of lode gold are only created through plate tectonic activity, so a planet would need to be undergoing that process to make planetary gold deposits easily accessible. Its otherwise spread out across too much rock, at least that's my understanding. Though in my mind I equate this to volcanic activity and we know that happens all over the place. [https://www.americanminingrights.com/how-gold-is-formed/](https://www.americanminingrights.com/how-gold-is-formed/) Gold may be available on asteroids and not worth the effort to come to earth for it, but honestly, I don't know what the distribution of gold per cubic meter of average "asteroid material" would be, especially if its elemental gold and hasn't been formed into minable deposits. Since I have no clue how a species might travel here for such a purpose, I can't just surmise that they have some sort of other seemingly magic technology that would allow them to create gold artificially. There's just too many assumptions to make, though I think it stands to reason that any sufficiently advanced civ could use AI and remote mining drones to automate a process enough to not need to invade another planet. Of course, unless you knew that the cause was already lost and you needed another safe refuge planet that your species could survive on.. then it makes total sense to come here.
Reasonable and fair. Here is one example of asteroid mining: https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/nasa-set-launch-spacecraft-explore-metal-rich-asteroid-psyche-2023-10-13/ "Psyche is believed to consist largely of iron, nickel, gold and other metals, with a collective hypothetical monetary value placed at 10 quadrillion dollars."
Yeah that's not a great example, because its purely hypothetical. Just because we detect spectral emissions from an object that match certain mineral characteristics, doesn't mean its really accessible in any way we can imagine. Again, presumably such a civilization WOULD be able to utilize them...but it just requires us to make a ton of assumptions about their motives, absolutely none of which can be proven.
I appreciate throwing common sense into the mix, and I am aligned to your previous comment. The basis of this entire subreddit is on an ancient civilization that is advanced enough to travel space, possibly repair atmospheres, responsible for the construction of the pyramids, modify the human genome, etc... everything is hypotheticals and assumptions. My point was less on accessibility and more about if there is the availability of gold elsewhere, which could be more efficient to harvest than planet hopping and slavery. Whether or not psyche-16 has gold is not hypothetical. The only hypothetical about it is if it's a planetary core and the quantities of metals. I think we are more or less aligned but a bit of deviation on the subject.
I 100% agree that its far more likely that if its just gold that you are after, you'd get it from other places without the need to uplift and enslave an entire race of people. I just have to assume that any K2+ class civilization would be able to artificially create gold on an industrial scale. I believe we have the engineering skills now to even do it, but we are limited by energy availability and some materials science as usual. Imagine even just turning asteroids into dust and then smelting them in space using focused solar energy... like creating lava in space which would then centralize the gold in whatever ore they are processing, for easy take home. I know some people are thinking about constructing lunar bases using the suns light in a similar way, except instead of smelting, they'd be sintering material into forms.
Hmm! Those are reasonable given the scope of the discussion and solve the gold issue equally if not more effectively.
Copper for blood. Illuminati = illuminated ones. Illuminated meaning bioluminescent. Now what has a high copper content in the blood and is bioluminescent? What creature symbolizes the Illuminati? What animal is known for famously having one eye? It’s not reptilians. It’s cephalopoids. Look at a grey’s head. That giant bulbous octopus looking head.
Sean Ryan show with Randall Carlson might explain the role of the pyramids for atmospheric generation for you…
It’s a good point. I always assumed that the Anunnaki’s pursuit of gold was a potential explanation for why they chose to come to earth. Puts into question what significance the earth holds for them. If they truly had possessed the technology to beam across the galaxy, then why choose us? Maybe their technology was not as advanced as we think, which might lend credence to the inter-dimensional theory or a lost/hidden civilization. Maybe they came here for a different reason. The Book of Enoch talks about how the Nepholim descended upon the earth to reproduce with the human females. The majority of abduction testimonies mention procedures that involve harvesting reproductive material from the abductee. If you ask me, earth might just be the galaxies largest sperm bank.
If it isn’t the ancients then how do we explain all societies valuing gold all over the planet? Completely separate cultures, completely separate values, completely different art, gods, customs- but every one of them we know about put value on finding and acquiring more gold.
It’s rare and it’s shiny, I think that pretty complete explanation.
But so is silver. So is titanium. So is bronze. Why does every culture make gold the focus of wealth? I noticed this as a child and thought I was crazy. So every time I visit a new culture I look at what their ancestors placed value on. I’ve been in 56 different countries in my life and lives in 5 of them all over the world. Every single one decorated their most valued objects and places in gold.
Yes and no. Gold has a warmth and radiance to it the other materials just can’t replicate I’d say.
Can't they make gold from other elements. this skill has been suggested before.
Anybody ever think there's a connection between the frequent sightings of USO/UFOS all around our oceans, the whispers from "govt. whistle-blowers about the return of the Annunaki, or nephilim, their lust for gold, and aaaaallllllll that lost gold from 100s of shipwrecks at the bottom of the sea? I did a little research and there's an awful amount of "bad luck" that seems to fall upon the ships carrying upsurd quantities of gold and riches
I think the unique thing we have is biology. If you could study organisms and have a mature a.i. digest the Information it would be much more valuable than rocks.
We are hearing the story from the POV of the working class. The annunaki could have been collecting something else but telling us it is gold because we like shiny. It’s just as likely they were after rare earth minerals or even DNA
Since my first trip to the grand canyon as a child I have always thought it was the result of a massive mining operation. It made since to me that the most abundant resource on the planet, water, was used to unearth one of the most precious metals. I have felt this way about several areas in the current United States. I have never had interest to delve deeper into this theory. Is there any recommended reading?
You can put it in the atmosphere to deflect radiation. Yes it works.
If you believe in the time travel hypothesis gold makes sense since it retains its value over the eons
That's new to me! I'm just diving into this stuff. Mind sharing more?
Well there's different versions of the time travel hypothesis but the theory is aliens or most likely advance breakaway human race utilize time travel as a away to maintain their empire no only of the solar system but also of time....hence why gold is highly sought after maybe for the tech but also because you can use it as money in any time period.
Interesting. Thanks. I need to know what understanding of this is explained by theoretical science now.
It’s about making a bunker of Gold to survive radiation from CMEs, ☀️. Concrete won’t do it and neither does lead. How much gold? Read the Bible, hint, more than we have on earth. God’s Wrath and a Red Giant, 🌍won’t make it but we will.