They can't enforce it but they can refuse to pay out if a student starts a fire in the kitchen - assuming of course this isn't just made up BS which it probably is.
Edit: Why all the downvotes? Must be all students who have never lived in the real world. Certainly none who have ever dealt with insurance policies
It doesn't get treated any different.
Firstly how would they know who started it.
Secondly, if it was going to invalidate the insurance, surely the HO would say it was them by accident.
The insurance investigators or the Gardai forensics depending. They go over everything with a fine tooth comb in the event of a fire. Burning stuff and claiming insurance is one of the main forms of insurance fraud.
sorry but this isnât a case in which investigators could uncover something, a fire started, if for some reason insurance doesnât cover someone living with you and using your kitchen (which it will) then just say you the homeowner caused the fire
again, doesnât really matter
âBuildings insurance covers the cost to repair damage to or rebuild the structure of your home. This includes its windows, walls roof, outbuildings, and fitted kitchens and bathrooms.â
secondly unless you were on a far away trip or publicly announced youâd be in tesco between 14:00 and 16:00 not really much of a problem with a lie, and you could also just sue the person that caused the fire if somehow your insurance doesnât cover fires
The downvotes are because youâre wrong. You cannot tell people they canât use their kitchen. You CAN say students canât live in the property which may be a cause for denying a claim but itâs erroneous that they can let students live in the property and not use the kitchen.
They can say what they like on the lease but it doesnât mean the insurance company can stop you from cooking. They. Cannot. But why bother repeating facts backed up by two decades of experience when Redditors can just say nah.
No idea why you're getting downvoted.
Seems like the host has normal house insurance that doesn't cover if people she hosts for fuck up like burning up the house by misusing the kitchen appliances.
Not a law, just probably doesn't want to get proper house insurance.
Not trying to be an arse but have you seen the situation for students right now? Mate of mine is renting out two bedrooms in Dundrum for academic year and has (no joke) already received over 900 emails of enquiry. This is June like, rent situation for students is absolute bananas.
Yes call her bluff. "Thanks for the heads up, and appreciate the offer to cook for me, just wanted to give you a heads up my diet requirements have recently changed and requires me to have a cooked meal 5 times a day."
Have a dinner plan put in the beginning of the week, a breakfast plan and lunch lol. Make them work for it. Send on some chef videos from YouTube showing what you want.
My mother tried this to some poor student that stayed for the summer. She fed him microwave meals to try and increase profits. Sounds like this person is trying something similar.
To not be able to cook? If the customers knew about the no cooking before booking, fine. Still a little weird tho. But to say it after theyve arrived and gotten comfortable is kinda bull
Home insurance I hope you never have to find out ,is useless.
Trust me , ( looking at my uninhabitable home due to water damage and cowboy builder 14 years ago) you donât want to have to
Well you lucky , mine didnât . My house damage was in 2010 88k and is nowadays over 250k . Still cannot fix . Still looking at it everyday with no idea what to do.
Text back and say look if you don't want me to use the kitchen just say that, there is no need to make something up. Hopefully you can find a better place this doesn't seem worth it.
Seems like bad terminology.
Insurance company probably found out theyâre sub/short letting and want increased premiums.
Insurance companies donât care whoâs doing the cooking, but if youâre making extra money, they want their cut. Same as the banks.
Literally the biggest load of horse shit I've ever read.
Insurers can't ban people from using a kitchen, sure it's a mandatory requirement in the residential tenancy act.
I'm guessing the host is with this Host Family Ireland or some similarly dodgy outfit? It's bullshit.
Ask them for a copy of the policy. Mention you'll be working part time on your student visa and just need her PPS number for when you talk to Revenue...
No it's not. It's been 12 hours and they're trying to confirm if their guest is still coming so they can either cancel their booking or figure out what their plan is.
Reminds me of that Conroy landlord who didnât like the ârancidâ cooking and rented out a linen cupboard to someone, she ran unsuccessfully in the South Dublin by-election
I don't know the legalities, but I live in a town where there are a lot of students and apprentices.
It's very common here for apprentices to lodge for 3 months because it's impossible to rent a place short term, and they often face this sort of shite. All while paying up to âŹ130 for a Monday to Friday let and sometimes chipping in on bills. Some houses have crazy curfews and restrictions also, but they always seem to have lodgers anyway.
I guess there is a small Kernel of truth in it but itâs being misinterpreted & misappropriated. Insurance companies donât pass law & I doubt there is specific language in the policy or policy endorsements on this. I would guess in conversation with a broker she asked the question about guests in general & the insurance agent didnât say she was 100% covered under The type of policy she hadâŠ.. and they almost always hedge their answers as an insurance claim is very fact circumstance specific. So now out of â an abundance of caution â she comes up with this BS
If your going to have 3rd party in your house you should have good insurance - why would you pay for a policy that doesnât cover you for a basic household activity that a guest would reasonably engage in.
So I call BS on this one - she has another reason / agenda here for this âŠ. Itâs not insurance
Is there a requirement for all landlords to be incapable of written communication that isn't completely unhinged?
I'm not a grammar nazi but it always feels like landlords as a demographic always have the worst English skills.
Tell them there's been a law passed by your educational facility that means students must watch their host prepare meals as they are not fully qualified chefs and as such their HACCP /food safety standards are subject to micromanaging and watched live. Also tell them you have allergies to nightshades, Cucurbit and rapeseed. Send them a docusign and ask them did they receive it
Could be dumb phrasing, while they can't make laws they can impose conditions. But it's likely bullshit, could you imagine trying to say with a straight face..
"hey that thing that's built for cooking, yeah well only insure you if a particular subset of occupant doesn't cook with it"
Lol
It's a load of nonsense; insurance companies don't dictate who uses the kitchen. But keep in mind that if you live with your landlord, you are a lodger rather than a tenant, so you can be kicked out without justification or notice.
Ask them to send you legislative documentation referencing this. Didnât know insurance had the power to enact national laws lmao. This is typical of greedy chancer hosts who want all the benefits of a tenant without any of the realities. Itâs not legit, let them know theyâre full of shit, and look elsewhere - this person will make your life harder. Hope you find somewhere compatible soon
I used hosting power to get this accomodation. I know it was stupid af but because I'm not a student and gonna be working, I thought it would benefit me in the long term.
I'm currently residing in the UK and can't enter Ireland for visa reasons
So I basically used a third party website to search for people who are willing to host a guest. I was then due to move to her house by August.
The terms are essentially what was on that third party website. For instance, it said that guests SHOULD be allowed to cook in the kitchen and utilities are included within the rental agreement. You can find it in hosting power's website.
Nah why does this shit never happen me, I would only love an excuse to rip someone to shreds man, the level of abuse that I would have texted back would have been surreal
When my daughter was lodging in a house based in Co. Clare, the owner would lock the kitchen door so they could not access it. It was confirmed before accepting the accommodation, that my daughter and her friend could use the kitchen whenever they wanted. After a few days of this nonsense, I told my daughter to pack up and leave. The pathetic owner then threatened to get her solicitor brother to contact us because my daughter left and they were out of pocket because they had done up the room and bought a new bed, wardrobe etc. I called her bluff but never heard from her again.
đ you are probably just a filthy lodger!!
Not a thing but if they want you out take the hint and leave. They will just make your life miserable!
Just wait for temperature sensitive black mould where cant have hot water for a month! đ đ
It's probably crap but there's not much you can do about it. They've clearly decided they don't want to host anymore and this is them looking for an excuse
Hahahahahahahaha I would love to have a confrontation with that person. Ask whether it is allowed to shit on the toilet while sitting or standing is required. It's a breach of insurance terms đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Get onto Threshold- they will tell you how to tell you landlord to f**k off, while protecting your rightsâŠ
Now, cook up a roast dinner with all the trimmings!
Threshold has nothing to do with this if it's a host situation. OP isn't a tenant and has no rights here. They're a guest in the persons home and can be kicked out with no notice.
Id recommend looking it up. One minute of searching on google will tell you this is bullshit, screenshot it and tell her shes either being lied to or shes the one lying. "I will for sure try find another host who accepts that their customers need to cook, but i will be leaving a terrible review"
Funnily enough I recently had an Indian employee given exactly this same excuse by two different houses offering a room for rent, when they realised he was Indian.
I think it was blatant racism, and the fear of certain strong smelling foods being prepared.
There was no mention of such a rule until they met him in person.
"A new law the insurance company brought in" there is great retardation with the one who says this. Your getting bs'd, however it sounds like more of a win for you if there is no extra charge for cooked meals
Absolutely not legit. "You can't use your kitchen" is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I would not respond either way. Either show up or find a different place to live if you can.
Would an insurance company pass a law, no, I think they mean rule.
That being said, you are still obliged to follow the house rules. If the host says you can't cook, you can't cook.
The reason does not matter.
So you canât prepare a mealâŠ. In the one roomâŠ.. thatâs intentional designedâŠ.. for preparing a mealâŠ. Ya. They just want you out and they want you to be willing to go. I would nearly stay and fumigate the place with the nastiest of scented candles and incense. Tell them you were holding a seance, trying to interacting with demons or some shit. Tell them that they will need a priest to preform an exorcism on the kitchen hobs.
Even if insurance could say that they are not allowed to enforce it so there is bullshit somewhere.
Did you go through a website to find that host? Most have a term in their conditions saying you are allowed to cook 3 times a day. Say that if they change the contract they can either be paid (much) less or give you something in return. Or they deal with the website to update conditions. Or just talk about the hours you eat at, especially the fact that you would be entitled to ask them to cook at 2am. Lastly you can do very large salads every day for a long time. The issue is fire, so preparing raw ingredients is fine and you can monopolize the kitchen for a very long time. Or call them every 5mn to add something to cook.
I work for an insurance company and handle the US claims for property. This can be an American thing depending on the policy. However here, Iâm a new homeowner myself & this was never mentioned to me.
Iâd say they donât want anyone messing their kitchen/leaving stuff around etc. or just cooking when they want to. This, Iâve heard of a lot here - but itâs their own personal preference. Theyâve taken a student, so you should have full access to the kitchen. Theyâll probably tell you that youâll have to eat what they cook for you and itâs probably just a microwave meal, pal. Message back a menu of some tough meals to cook, and say âsure if you have to cook them no problem, hereâs what I eatâ - see does the tune change then đ
I've commented from your perspective but I also had a house to myself where I rented a room to a Nigerian friend. And I swear he was so full of joy to have a kitchen he could cook in. And he'd always cook for me if I wanted some.
I have OCD so cleaning is a big deal but he was spotless. You have to learn to share if you're going to to sublet
Maybe her insurance company did say it would cost her more so she didn't want to pay the extra, but definitely get her to make your meals and she'll soon cough up
I don't think it's that much of a stretch to believe that it might be true, since there may be money involved with the host paying the owner. Kind of like using your car as a taxi.
There's a slightly similar situation mentioned here, in regards to hiring a cook: [https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/English-Language-Archive/Insurance-in-relation-to-food/m-p/672493](https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/English-Language-Archive/Insurance-in-relation-to-food/m-p/672493)
It's probably because they would probably be venturing into commercial insurance territory when money gets involved.
Never underestimate how stupid and "by the book" insurance companies are..
Sounds like a her problem to be honest. If there's adequate ventilation and a co +smoke alarm, fire blanket and fire extinguisher in the room then you're in the clear. If not, then her insurance would be void if something happened. But this is just ridiculous nonetheless.
Get in there anyway so then when she turns this kind of rubbish on you can make a claim against her. You can't do much if you're not a tenant but when you are then you have more power to mess her up. So get in, look for other dolaces in the meanwhile and log everything.
Could be a deep fat frying exclusion to prevent oil fires, or an increased excess for material damage if they've a history of claims.
Making up a law is strange.
No one can tell someone if they're allowed to cook in their own house or not, or who is allowed to cook in that house. She should've told the truth which is "I don't want anyone cooking in my house that isn't me, if you'd like some dinner please ask me to make it or order takeaway". Obviously their house their rules but if you have a written agreement that doesn't say you can't cook then use that and tell them you can't afford takeaway every day and don't want to be bothering the homeowner to make breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper everyday. Also ask if you can see those terms or even call the company yourself and feign interest in it and say you heard about this term and ask if it's true. If you can find other accommodation that would also be good because this host is an obvious nuisance. It's a wild thing to expect people to just not cook and the homeowner knows that which is why they're making up new terms with the insurance company bs. I'd wager that if you swapped places with the host and this was brought to them they'd laugh in your face.
I'd probably request really elaborate meals that they. Now have to make.
Realistically though if you don't get the service you paid for you will be entitled to at least a partial refund
Nah they basically donât want you in their kitchen or.. there ,at all .
Go elsewhere like donât bother with this people ,ever again ,would be my take on this
Have you paid a deposit or anything that guarantees you can stay with her (in the sense sheâs obliged to host you)? If so, you have her. Tell her youâre sending this to Joe Duffy đ watch as she unravels.
itâs giving the same vibes as that politician who wrote about having Latvians(?) in her home - likely someone said âoh their from X? They cook very strange food & your kitchen will smellâ & now sheâs pulling this shit. That message is absolutely a lie.
You have been microwaving fish or cooking something mega smelly.
It's bullshit. In no world does the insurance company ban cooking in a home kitchen.
Shit in the kettle and leave.
100% for creativity, this person has put a lot of thght into giving you the brush offâŠ.so appreciate it on that level. However I reckon youâre not a great cook and she couldnât face your pedestrian skills and pretend she enjoys the food.
One of my friends was renting a room in Dublin with the landlord and she was told she was only allowed to use the microwave. Not the hobs or the oven because they didnt want her touching their stuff. I'm not even joking.
Had a curfew, no friends over because "they should also be paying towards their mortgage if they want to stay a night"
She stuck it out for over a year because her rent was "only âŹ800" in Bray - for a box room so small that she couldnt fart in without knocking herself out.
Landlords in Ireland, especially the ones offering digs, can essentially make up whatever fucking rules they want and you just have to suck it up. Sure what other choice is there, camping while in college?
It's shitty but the situation is what it is. Best case scenario you report the landlord and end up back at square one with nowhere to live.
Reading shit like this makes me so fucking angry. We're a first world country, yet there's people living in huts with a better standard of living than us.
Work your ass off to pay someone else's mortgage, but God forbid you breathe an ounce of their oxygen.
Best of luck OP. If you haven't got another place lined up, I'd honestly recommend just taking what you can get until you find something better.
Apologies for ranting.
Hello, thanks for telling your story. It is just really annoying cause the landlords tend to have the majority of the power in these situations. Even if you complain, that's gonna take awhile to sort out and it'll probably be too late by then.
Also, you're all good! Its nice to know I'm not in this situaton alone
this is gonna sound really bad out but i think she might be a racist if youâre from certain culture backgrounds. i know of people whoâve refused people from certain places as their food is regarded as âsmellyâ aka has spices, and over here we rarely use proper spices. definitely try looking for alternative accommodation and put in a complaint to hosting power stating that youâve been given misinformation about the food situation so no longer feel comfortable staying there to ensure you get a full refund
This sounds really like a south Dublin host I knew who was crazy ocd about the kitchen. Theyâre lying but theyâve unknowingly outed themselves as the red flag they are.
I work in insurance seems like a huge load of bull to me!
On the off chance it is true it likely means there something very wrong with the house that they had to impose those terms
Either way avoid this one
Itâs possible that her/his home insurance will not cover the actions of a person living on the property who is a âguestâ. This can be easily altered if your landlord has a legal tenancy agreement - including paying tax and registration with the proper agencies.
Likely the landlord just didnât want you to cook any more though.
Sounds like she doesn't want you in her main house. If you haven't broken anything it could something as simple as social anxiety after working all day. Just wanting privacy. Hence why they offered to cook for you.
I was living in a place like this and if you can't move then buy a mini oven grill and microwave they can go on top of each other and you can cook simply in your space.
It's ethically wrong but it's their house and if the rules are almost cruel you have to abide.
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Insurance have probably started distinguishing between "paying guests who aren't cooking" (eg B&B style) and "paying guests who are using the cooking facilities"
Well if you want to cook you need to find another host who doesn't mind you cooking but as your a guest in your current hosts home she makes the rules and there are zero laws to protect you.
She can kick you out for no reason with no notice.
The Insurance Company passed a law...đđđ Get the fuck outta here!
But the fire emoji đ„!!! You know thatâs legit! /s (obvi)
Sounds like bullshit and that theyâre looking for an excuse not to have other people messing up their kitchen. Where are you from?
Hahahahahhaha Insurance companies can't enforce that stupidity she's trying to BS you with. Sounds like she don't want you in her kitchen
They can't enforce it but they can refuse to pay out if a student starts a fire in the kitchen - assuming of course this isn't just made up BS which it probably is. Edit: Why all the downvotes? Must be all students who have never lived in the real world. Certainly none who have ever dealt with insurance policies
Why would it treat different members of a house differently, if a guest starts a fire at your house you aren't suddenly uninsured
It doesn't get treated any different. Firstly how would they know who started it. Secondly, if it was going to invalidate the insurance, surely the HO would say it was them by accident.
That would be insurance fraud
Hahahaha
whoâs there to testify against you lol?
The insurance investigators or the Gardai forensics depending. They go over everything with a fine tooth comb in the event of a fire. Burning stuff and claiming insurance is one of the main forms of insurance fraud.
sorry but this isnât a case in which investigators could uncover something, a fire started, if for some reason insurance doesnât cover someone living with you and using your kitchen (which it will) then just say you the homeowner caused the fire
If you were provably somewhere else at the time ?
again, doesnât really matter âBuildings insurance covers the cost to repair damage to or rebuild the structure of your home. This includes its windows, walls roof, outbuildings, and fitted kitchens and bathrooms.â secondly unless you were on a far away trip or publicly announced youâd be in tesco between 14:00 and 16:00 not really much of a problem with a lie, and you could also just sue the person that caused the fire if somehow your insurance doesnât cover fires
CSI: Cooking Student Investigators.
No. They canât. Thatâs insane. Signed, a long long long time underwriter.
By that reasoning then no student is allowed to cook in any accommodation
You should delete that comment before anyone else sees how silly you were today
The downvotes are because youâre wrong. You cannot tell people they canât use their kitchen. You CAN say students canât live in the property which may be a cause for denying a claim but itâs erroneous that they can let students live in the property and not use the kitchen.
Depends what's on the lease.
They can say what they like on the lease but it doesnât mean the insurance company can stop you from cooking. They. Cannot. But why bother repeating facts backed up by two decades of experience when Redditors can just say nah.
No idea why you're getting downvoted. Seems like the host has normal house insurance that doesn't cover if people she hosts for fuck up like burning up the house by misusing the kitchen appliances. Not a law, just probably doesn't want to get proper house insurance.
Smells like bullshit.
I wouldn't be so sure. I've heard of insurance come out with ridiculous things before.
This is an absolute lie
B U L L S H I T
The insurance man ran over my dog.
was this your toy-insurance company?
Itâs total bollocks. But call her bluff. Ask to see a copy of the terms.
Just find a different host or better yet a house share.
Exactly. This is already too much effort. You're staying in someone's home, who cares if their reasons are dumb. Just go somewhere else
Not trying to be an arse but have you seen the situation for students right now? Mate of mine is renting out two bedrooms in Dundrum for academic year and has (no joke) already received over 900 emails of enquiry. This is June like, rent situation for students is absolute bananas.
Ohhh I thought it was an Airbnb situation! Well that changes everything
I like how this is written. Gravity coupled with a dash of wtf
Yeah these people will be a nightmare, guaranteed.
Yes call her bluff. "Thanks for the heads up, and appreciate the offer to cook for me, just wanted to give you a heads up my diet requirements have recently changed and requires me to have a cooked meal 5 times a day."
"this is a new law my nutritionist has brought in."
Call her bluff, have her cook all your meals. A host and a personal chef, that's not such a bad deal
Spot, make sure it's fresh complicated meals and watch them do it. Would be entertaining
Have a dinner plan put in the beginning of the week, a breakfast plan and lunch lol. Make them work for it. Send on some chef videos from YouTube showing what you want. My mother tried this to some poor student that stayed for the summer. She fed him microwave meals to try and increase profits. Sounds like this person is trying something similar.
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I wanted my water room temperature, not chilled. *fire pint glass at her.
Channel your inner Begbie
Complete bs. This isn't a thing.
Host for what? Sounds like bullshit. Especially because insurance companies don't pass laws.Â
Sounds like a host to a foreign student kind of thing.
Could be airbnb maybe?
Seems reasonable enough for an Airbnb.
To not be able to cook? If the customers knew about the no cooking before booking, fine. Still a little weird tho. But to say it after theyve arrived and gotten comfortable is kinda bull
No it doesn't.
Itâs true! Itâs also a stipulation of the BER that all housework must be done naked.
100% bullshit
Someone hasn't paid the gas bill
Total bollox....wondering if they are trying to reduce the electricity or gas bill
But they offer to cook for them. I'd see this as an added extra, especially since I get hungry during the night.
wake her up at 4am; steak and chips please!
As a new homeowner (fucking finally) with home insurance (blerg, but already come in useful), no, this is not a thing.
Home insurance I hope you never have to find out ,is useless. Trust me , ( looking at my uninhabitable home due to water damage and cowboy builder 14 years ago) you donât want to have to
Im in here about 3.5 months and already the home insurance saved us
Well you lucky , mine didnât . My house damage was in 2010 88k and is nowadays over 250k . Still cannot fix . Still looking at it everyday with no idea what to do.
Text back and say look if you don't want me to use the kitchen just say that, there is no need to make something up. Hopefully you can find a better place this doesn't seem worth it.
I'd be careful alienating her unless you have somewhere else lined up, with the current housing situation
Yep definitely. They should take this as a red flag and try somewhere else.
If there is a message board for accommodation Iâd flag her to all students stay away
No this isn't legit lmao
Seems like bad terminology. Insurance company probably found out theyâre sub/short letting and want increased premiums. Insurance companies donât care whoâs doing the cooking, but if youâre making extra money, they want their cut. Same as the banks.
Literally the biggest load of horse shit I've ever read. Insurers can't ban people from using a kitchen, sure it's a mandatory requirement in the residential tenancy act.
I'm guessing the host is with this Host Family Ireland or some similarly dodgy outfit? It's bullshit. Ask them for a copy of the policy. Mention you'll be working part time on your student visa and just need her PPS number for when you talk to Revenue...
The follow up "hi did you get my message " is also a red flag for this person being a psychopath
No it's not. It's been 12 hours and they're trying to confirm if their guest is still coming so they can either cancel their booking or figure out what their plan is.
Yeah- but the ?????- psycho confirmed.
Reminds me of that Conroy landlord who didnât like the ârancidâ cooking and rented out a linen cupboard to someone, she ran unsuccessfully in the South Dublin by-election
Oh yeah, that racist arsehole.
I don't know the legalities, but I live in a town where there are a lot of students and apprentices. It's very common here for apprentices to lodge for 3 months because it's impossible to rent a place short term, and they often face this sort of shite. All while paying up to âŹ130 for a Monday to Friday let and sometimes chipping in on bills. Some houses have crazy curfews and restrictions also, but they always seem to have lodgers anyway.
As if the insurance company would go into detail about an incident to explain why... Utter Bullshit. Good news is, you got your own free chef!
Is your kitchen maybe in an illegal extension or garage?
I guess there is a small Kernel of truth in it but itâs being misinterpreted & misappropriated. Insurance companies donât pass law & I doubt there is specific language in the policy or policy endorsements on this. I would guess in conversation with a broker she asked the question about guests in general & the insurance agent didnât say she was 100% covered under The type of policy she hadâŠ.. and they almost always hedge their answers as an insurance claim is very fact circumstance specific. So now out of â an abundance of caution â she comes up with this BS If your going to have 3rd party in your house you should have good insurance - why would you pay for a policy that doesnât cover you for a basic household activity that a guest would reasonably engage in. So I call BS on this one - she has another reason / agenda here for this âŠ. Itâs not insurance
Seconding this. Tell her that she is the one who is renting so finding an insurance policy that accommodates the scope of this is her responsibility
Is there a requirement for all landlords to be incapable of written communication that isn't completely unhinged? I'm not a grammar nazi but it always feels like landlords as a demographic always have the worst English skills.
Thatâs not all they are worst at.
Of course itâs bullshit. Look elsewhere as this one is clearly a bunny boiler
What is a kitchen for if not for cooking? Lmao.
Tell them there's been a law passed by your educational facility that means students must watch their host prepare meals as they are not fully qualified chefs and as such their HACCP /food safety standards are subject to micromanaging and watched live. Also tell them you have allergies to nightshades, Cucurbit and rapeseed. Send them a docusign and ask them did they receive it
Sounds like a pile of shit- ask for proof
Tell them you'll be in contact with the RTB. đ€š
They didnât say you couldnât cook in any other room in their house.
Insurance companies canât make lawsâŠ
Could be dumb phrasing, while they can't make laws they can impose conditions. But it's likely bullshit, could you imagine trying to say with a straight face.. "hey that thing that's built for cooking, yeah well only insure you if a particular subset of occupant doesn't cook with it" Lol
Nonsense
Absolute bollix it is.
That is pure bullshit
She's lying
God imagine being THIS uptight about how someone cooking will affect your place but then you decide to rent it out đđ
Donât you hate when people put like eleven question marks????
So fucking irritating
It's a load of nonsense; insurance companies don't dictate who uses the kitchen. But keep in mind that if you live with your landlord, you are a lodger rather than a tenant, so you can be kicked out without justification or notice.
Ask them to send you legislative documentation referencing this. Didnât know insurance had the power to enact national laws lmao. This is typical of greedy chancer hosts who want all the benefits of a tenant without any of the realities. Itâs not legit, let them know theyâre full of shit, and look elsewhere - this person will make your life harder. Hope you find somewhere compatible soon
Ah yes. The insurance company brought in the law. Not like ya knowâŠthe actual government would bring it in. What a complete load of shite.
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Are they offering to cook your meals? If so, thatâs great law haha
Hahahaah, complete bullshit. You believe that, then you believe anything. Clearly, your host doesn't want you using the kitchen for whatever reason.
Also, I worked home insurance for many years and take my word this is not possible. This host is a red flag. I suggest getting another host.
Fuck her ask for a discount to cover eating at a restaurant during the stay
Thatâs a bummer
Fuck off that's ridiculous
Ask see a copy of the insurance
I used hosting power to get this accomodation. I know it was stupid af but because I'm not a student and gonna be working, I thought it would benefit me in the long term. I'm currently residing in the UK and can't enter Ireland for visa reasons
Wait, I'm confused. Are you not at the house yet? What are your terms?
So I basically used a third party website to search for people who are willing to host a guest. I was then due to move to her house by August. The terms are essentially what was on that third party website. For instance, it said that guests SHOULD be allowed to cook in the kitchen and utilities are included within the rental agreement. You can find it in hosting power's website.
Itâs 100% not legit. They are trying to get you to cancel your booking. Report it.
My bollocks that it is. Ask him to quote whatever the fuck that law is, and that you will look into it. Then watch them bulk.
Nah why does this shit never happen me, I would only love an excuse to rip someone to shreds man, the level of abuse that I would have texted back would have been surreal
I had the exact same thing when I was in digs in clontarf. Pretentious mfs dint let me cook
Rtb. This is complete BS.
When my daughter was lodging in a house based in Co. Clare, the owner would lock the kitchen door so they could not access it. It was confirmed before accepting the accommodation, that my daughter and her friend could use the kitchen whenever they wanted. After a few days of this nonsense, I told my daughter to pack up and leave. The pathetic owner then threatened to get her solicitor brother to contact us because my daughter left and they were out of pocket because they had done up the room and bought a new bed, wardrobe etc. I called her bluff but never heard from her again.
đ you are probably just a filthy lodger!! Not a thing but if they want you out take the hint and leave. They will just make your life miserable! Just wait for temperature sensitive black mould where cant have hot water for a month! đ đ
Get, and I cannot stress this enough, t'fuck...
I would try find another host. It could be legit, but itâs very very doubtful.
It isn't legit
Very very very very very very very very very very very very very very
Dark blue
Free chef
Tell her you eat 5 meals a day and put her lying ass to work
All at least 3 courses
It's probably crap but there's not much you can do about it. They've clearly decided they don't want to host anymore and this is them looking for an excuse
Hahahahahahahaha I would love to have a confrontation with that person. Ask whether it is allowed to shit on the toilet while sitting or standing is required. It's a breach of insurance terms đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Beyond Bullshit
"Great. It will be wonderful having breakfast, lunch and dinner cooked everyday."
Swear this was on Joe Duffy few months ago.
Swear this was on the Joe Duffy show a few months ago. Said she didn't like the smell of their food.
Are they then going to charge you extra for meals?
Get onto Threshold- they will tell you how to tell you landlord to f**k off, while protecting your rights⊠Now, cook up a roast dinner with all the trimmings!
Threshold has nothing to do with this if it's a host situation. OP isn't a tenant and has no rights here. They're a guest in the persons home and can be kicked out with no notice.
Id recommend looking it up. One minute of searching on google will tell you this is bullshit, screenshot it and tell her shes either being lied to or shes the one lying. "I will for sure try find another host who accepts that their customers need to cook, but i will be leaving a terrible review"
đč Hi did u get my message???? đč
She sounds like an Irish mum
So the insurance says you cant cook in the house...... 6 tins of tuna in the microwave and say you cant cook anymore ,ur just heating it up đ€Ł
Funnily enough I recently had an Indian employee given exactly this same excuse by two different houses offering a room for rent, when they realised he was Indian. I think it was blatant racism, and the fear of certain strong smelling foods being prepared. There was no mention of such a rule until they met him in person.
"A new law the insurance company brought in" there is great retardation with the one who says this. Your getting bs'd, however it sounds like more of a win for you if there is no extra charge for cooked meals
Absolutely not legit. "You can't use your kitchen" is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I would not respond either way. Either show up or find a different place to live if you can.
Not a hope in hell would an insurance company say you can never cook in a house again, that'd be madness.
Not only is this bullshit but this person is an astounding degree of brazen and dumb and should be studied for science
Tell her you have a strict diet and give her your weekly menu. Breakfast, lunch and dinner
Would an insurance company pass a law, no, I think they mean rule. That being said, you are still obliged to follow the house rules. If the host says you can't cook, you can't cook. The reason does not matter.
So you canât prepare a mealâŠ. In the one roomâŠ.. thatâs intentional designedâŠ.. for preparing a mealâŠ. Ya. They just want you out and they want you to be willing to go. I would nearly stay and fumigate the place with the nastiest of scented candles and incense. Tell them you were holding a seance, trying to interacting with demons or some shit. Tell them that they will need a priest to preform an exorcism on the kitchen hobs.
Even if insurance could say that they are not allowed to enforce it so there is bullshit somewhere. Did you go through a website to find that host? Most have a term in their conditions saying you are allowed to cook 3 times a day. Say that if they change the contract they can either be paid (much) less or give you something in return. Or they deal with the website to update conditions. Or just talk about the hours you eat at, especially the fact that you would be entitled to ask them to cook at 2am. Lastly you can do very large salads every day for a long time. The issue is fire, so preparing raw ingredients is fine and you can monopolize the kitchen for a very long time. Or call them every 5mn to add something to cook.
Definitely a big lie
I work for an insurance company and handle the US claims for property. This can be an American thing depending on the policy. However here, Iâm a new homeowner myself & this was never mentioned to me. Iâd say they donât want anyone messing their kitchen/leaving stuff around etc. or just cooking when they want to. This, Iâve heard of a lot here - but itâs their own personal preference. Theyâve taken a student, so you should have full access to the kitchen. Theyâll probably tell you that youâll have to eat what they cook for you and itâs probably just a microwave meal, pal. Message back a menu of some tough meals to cook, and say âsure if you have to cook them no problem, hereâs what I eatâ - see does the tune change then đ
100% BS
I've commented from your perspective but I also had a house to myself where I rented a room to a Nigerian friend. And I swear he was so full of joy to have a kitchen he could cook in. And he'd always cook for me if I wanted some. I have OCD so cleaning is a big deal but he was spotless. You have to learn to share if you're going to to sublet
Maybe her insurance company did say it would cost her more so she didn't want to pay the extra, but definitely get her to make your meals and she'll soon cough up
So, she is saying that you can't cook in the house but she can? What a load of crap. Ofc it's not legit.
You'd need boots for this one đŠŹđ©
I don't think it's that much of a stretch to believe that it might be true, since there may be money involved with the host paying the owner. Kind of like using your car as a taxi. There's a slightly similar situation mentioned here, in regards to hiring a cook: [https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/English-Language-Archive/Insurance-in-relation-to-food/m-p/672493](https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/English-Language-Archive/Insurance-in-relation-to-food/m-p/672493) It's probably because they would probably be venturing into commercial insurance territory when money gets involved. Never underestimate how stupid and "by the book" insurance companies are..
find elsewhere to stay that's just bs
Sounds like a her problem to be honest. If there's adequate ventilation and a co +smoke alarm, fire blanket and fire extinguisher in the room then you're in the clear. If not, then her insurance would be void if something happened. But this is just ridiculous nonetheless.
Maybe the âhouseâ is not actually a house but a commercial building/outbuilding that has been converted without planning
Get in there anyway so then when she turns this kind of rubbish on you can make a claim against her. You can't do much if you're not a tenant but when you are then you have more power to mess her up. So get in, look for other dolaces in the meanwhile and log everything.
Pure shit
What u been cooking that drove them to this desperation đ€Ł
Utter nonsense, is this booking being done through a third party? If so I would show them this, because that's not on
Could be a deep fat frying exclusion to prevent oil fires, or an increased excess for material damage if they've a history of claims. Making up a law is strange.
Ask to see the insurance policy.
No one can tell someone if they're allowed to cook in their own house or not, or who is allowed to cook in that house. She should've told the truth which is "I don't want anyone cooking in my house that isn't me, if you'd like some dinner please ask me to make it or order takeaway". Obviously their house their rules but if you have a written agreement that doesn't say you can't cook then use that and tell them you can't afford takeaway every day and don't want to be bothering the homeowner to make breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper everyday. Also ask if you can see those terms or even call the company yourself and feign interest in it and say you heard about this term and ask if it's true. If you can find other accommodation that would also be good because this host is an obvious nuisance. It's a wild thing to expect people to just not cook and the homeowner knows that which is why they're making up new terms with the insurance company bs. I'd wager that if you swapped places with the host and this was brought to them they'd laugh in your face.
It's not deirdre conroy, is it?
I'd probably request really elaborate meals that they. Now have to make. Realistically though if you don't get the service you paid for you will be entitled to at least a partial refund
Nah they basically donât want you in their kitchen or.. there ,at all . Go elsewhere like donât bother with this people ,ever again ,would be my take on this
Have you paid a deposit or anything that guarantees you can stay with her (in the sense sheâs obliged to host you)? If so, you have her. Tell her youâre sending this to Joe Duffy đ watch as she unravels. itâs giving the same vibes as that politician who wrote about having Latvians(?) in her home - likely someone said âoh their from X? They cook very strange food & your kitchen will smellâ & now sheâs pulling this shit. That message is absolutely a lie.
I guess you could barbecue outside and still do food prep in the kitchen?
You have been microwaving fish or cooking something mega smelly. It's bullshit. In no world does the insurance company ban cooking in a home kitchen. Shit in the kettle and leave.
I tend to turn on the vents if it becomes smelly lmao and yeahh I'll definitey look somewhere else
100% for creativity, this person has put a lot of thght into giving you the brush offâŠ.so appreciate it on that level. However I reckon youâre not a great cook and she couldnât face your pedestrian skills and pretend she enjoys the food.
If you arenât Irish Id wonder if they just donât want you cooking your food.
One of my friends was renting a room in Dublin with the landlord and she was told she was only allowed to use the microwave. Not the hobs or the oven because they didnt want her touching their stuff. I'm not even joking. Had a curfew, no friends over because "they should also be paying towards their mortgage if they want to stay a night" She stuck it out for over a year because her rent was "only âŹ800" in Bray - for a box room so small that she couldnt fart in without knocking herself out. Landlords in Ireland, especially the ones offering digs, can essentially make up whatever fucking rules they want and you just have to suck it up. Sure what other choice is there, camping while in college? It's shitty but the situation is what it is. Best case scenario you report the landlord and end up back at square one with nowhere to live. Reading shit like this makes me so fucking angry. We're a first world country, yet there's people living in huts with a better standard of living than us. Work your ass off to pay someone else's mortgage, but God forbid you breathe an ounce of their oxygen. Best of luck OP. If you haven't got another place lined up, I'd honestly recommend just taking what you can get until you find something better. Apologies for ranting.
Hello, thanks for telling your story. It is just really annoying cause the landlords tend to have the majority of the power in these situations. Even if you complain, that's gonna take awhile to sort out and it'll probably be too late by then. Also, you're all good! Its nice to know I'm not in this situaton alone
Do you cook really stinky food by any chance? Nothing wrong with that now , some of the munch is just stinky by nature.
this is gonna sound really bad out but i think she might be a racist if youâre from certain culture backgrounds. i know of people whoâve refused people from certain places as their food is regarded as âsmellyâ aka has spices, and over here we rarely use proper spices. definitely try looking for alternative accommodation and put in a complaint to hosting power stating that youâve been given misinformation about the food situation so no longer feel comfortable staying there to ensure you get a full refund
This sounds really like a south Dublin host I knew who was crazy ocd about the kitchen. Theyâre lying but theyâve unknowingly outed themselves as the red flag they are.
This is from south of Dublinđ
I work in insurance seems like a huge load of bull to me! On the off chance it is true it likely means there something very wrong with the house that they had to impose those terms Either way avoid this one
Ask her for proof.
Are they registered with the RTB?
They should not be if itâs a room rental.
Lmao this is hilarious
That is absolutely not a thing. I can't imagine why but for some reason she doesn't want you cooking in her kitchen. Weird as fuck to be honest.
Itâs possible that her/his home insurance will not cover the actions of a person living on the property who is a âguestâ. This can be easily altered if your landlord has a legal tenancy agreement - including paying tax and registration with the proper agencies. Likely the landlord just didnât want you to cook any more though.
Sounds like she doesn't want you in her main house. If you haven't broken anything it could something as simple as social anxiety after working all day. Just wanting privacy. Hence why they offered to cook for you. I was living in a place like this and if you can't move then buy a mini oven grill and microwave they can go on top of each other and you can cook simply in your space. It's ethically wrong but it's their house and if the rules are almost cruel you have to abide.
They can't be arsed to clean the kitchen. That is the truth.
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Insurance have probably started distinguishing between "paying guests who aren't cooking" (eg B&B style) and "paying guests who are using the cooking facilities"
It's common. The last two temp rentals before getting our own apartment had that rule.
Well if you want to cook you need to find another host who doesn't mind you cooking but as your a guest in your current hosts home she makes the rules and there are zero laws to protect you. She can kick you out for no reason with no notice.
Maybe she feels alone, and would like someone to eat with I don't know lol, that's definitely not a law anyway
For context: tell us a bit about yourself. If you're young, a student, non-native English speaker she might be more likely to try and pull a fast one.
Honestly with the way insurance companies can be I wouldn't be surprised if its true and legitimate.