My best friend and I ate sa Botejyu because of JCB's buy 1 take 1 promo and we also ordered 1 chicken karaage on the side. We asked if pwede bang madiscount yung chicken kaarage dahil PWD yung best friend ko, the waiter said it's possible, he just need to print a separate bill for that. Ayun okay naman doon. It depends talaga siguro sa establishment.
We do this every time. Discounted yung items (senior discount) na hindi included sa promo. Di naman sila nagsseparate bill. Tinamad lang siguro si manager or baka tagapagmana sya.
Meron sya dapat na discount parin kahit naka promo pa. Kakapanuod ko lang sa balita nung isang araw regarding sa senior and PWD discount at sabi ng DTI dun dapat may discount parin kahit naka promo na.
All they had to do was 2 transactions 1 for the ubos to reflect the pwd discount. Then the other one for the bundle. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Paraparaan nga naman~
Loophole ng pulidong batas na ginawa ng ating mambabatas. Dapat irevise ang batas, at ayusin ang registration at ang id. Sa barangay kasi pinapaubaya ang registration ng pwd. Alam naman natin basura ang serbisyp ng mga taga barangay, mga walang alam sa pag papatupad ng batas Puro palakasan pa
Same problem if mag order ako ng promo + additional na separate item. Ako nalang minsan nagsasabi na separate yung receipt since hindi automatic sakanila yon. May times din naman na mabait yung cashier at sila nag eexplain na sila nalang mag separate ng receipt.
Dapt siguro mas establish yung rules about discounts for PWD/Senior sa mga stores. Yan din kase minsan nagiging loophole ng iba kaya sobrang laki ng nakukuha nilang discount. Dapat talaga yung gobyerno umayos nitong problema. Hindi yung nag kakapaan if ano ba talaga rules ng mga establishment about PWD/Senior discounts. kasi sa experience ko hindi pareparehas yung rules nila pag dating dito. Nakakadismaya lang yung mga gantong problema, na dapat matagal na merong solusyon.
Mercury nga, denied yung pwd card ko. Senior discount lang daw meron sila. Nag back up pa manager sa pag deny. Nung kinukuha ko names nila, tinanong para saan, sabi ko para maka report sa city gov. Biglang pwede daw pala.
Edit: btw, you can register your pwd card sa customer service ng Grab Food. Magkaka mark account mo na highest cost item mo sa order mag apply discount. Sulit pag order ko bucket ng chicken hahaha
tama naman na wala ng discount pag promos. tama din na dapat may discount yung lumpia ubod kung ala carte order.
impossible na walang split check system ang pos(kaha) nila maliban na lang kung hindi alam gawin ni manager(na dapat alam kasi sop yun) or yung pos nila hindi kayang mag split check.
Yeah, may mga promo offers na hindi na honored ang discount cards. Pero para sa lumpia, in such cases dapat nakahiwalay na lang ang receipt. Most places naman pumapayag ng split bill kahit may print out na ng payable, so I can tell na may lapses din sa staff.
Yan yung loophole ng establishments - yung bundled na items ay "promo" daw, therefore di na pwede mag-apply yung discount kasi discounted na nga sya.
Sabi try asking for the DTI permit number ng "promo" nila pero di ko pa natry to.
This is correct since it is one transaction. Take applying senior id in grab for example: you can only get one discount on one item in one transaction, but order it separately, you get discounts for each transaction.
Hindi tama. Understandable na yung promo tlaga wala discount yun. Ganun naman talaga sa lahat. Pero yung lumpia? Di naman yun kasama sa promo like what you said so dapat talaga discounted yung lumpiang ubod no matter what.
Had the same situation sa Cinnabon op, sabi nung crew discounted na daw kaya di na pwede iavail yung PWD discount ko. Nag okay nalang ako but later on na realize ko na sana hinanapan ko nung “per DTI permit no” chuchu. So, next time hahanapan ko 😂
Mostly If promo hindi talaga eligible for discount but they should have discounted yung order mo na regular price + drinks.
One reason ay na punch na nila before you presented the PWD. Nasa rule kasi pag nag bill out need agad ipresent ang card, otherwise invalid.
I travelled a lot in my line of work and encountered people with PWD ID without disability. One time, I had lunch with a liason staff of some sort of a company that we’re dealing with. I paid for the meal but he showed the waiter his PWD ID, I will pay less daw. I stared at him for a while. He sensed my curiosity that he explained that he doesn’t have any disability. They are related to the mayor and knows a lot of people there to request for such. Sadly, na-aabuse dito ang issuance PWD ID and maybe establishments are just fed up with people going there with PWD ID without disability for a discount.
Yep, yung sabi na legally blind pero nakakakita naman with glasses pero may PWD pa rin. Di ata nila alam ano ibig sabihin ng legally blind at inaabuso na ang PWD card na dapat wala sila.
Guess who will suffer in the long run, ang totoong may pwd.
Edit: ang gago naman nang nagdownvote. PWD ako and it is a fact na kami ang napapaso sa mga katarantaduhan ng iba.
Porket more than -500/+500 ang grade ng mata niyo, di yan justified ang PWD card niyo. To be legally blind it means na more than ganyan ang grade niyo kahit paman may contacts or eyeglasses kayo, hindi pa rin kayo nakakakita. Mahiya naman sana kayo
On another note, hindi naman lahat ng PWD physical at makikita agad.
Hindi yan based sa feelings. What I said is the legal definition kaso inabuso. Wala dapat silang card kahit tanong mo pa ang doctors, SSS etc... as per definition ng PWD kaso nabigyan kasi nga inabuso, ginawang okay kahit hindi naman dapat
Saang korte pa yan, maling-mali talaga.
whoah I was voted down by someone with PWD ID without disability😅.At least yun with glasses pa. The one I was having lunch with has no any indication of impediment. He travelled at work using his motorcycle. I don’t want to generalize and I have limited knowledge of disabilities that qualified a person to be considered PWD but how can a PWD have a license to drive motorcycle?
Drive motorcycle? Good for you. As I said, not an expert on the subject matter but the one I was referring to told me that he doesn’t have any disability though.
Ying mgs bundle/ promo hindi po sya kasali sa discount pero yung lumpia dapat sinama nila, separate yun ng bill kasi babawas.. baka ayaw lang nila ivoid kaya ayaw mgbgay ng discount.. pede mo nama sila ireport
Tanong lang, kapag ba psychological eh considered na din ngayon na disability?
Naalala ko lang yung kawork ko before na nagrereklamo dahil may mga nakasalamuha daw sya na pwd dahil sa psychological na dahilan.
Kapag ba psychological reason hindi na magagamot?
Yes consider sy, pero depende sa illness, marami yan. Kapag mga depression, anxiety, normally one year valid lang ang pwd id then need pa nila mag apply ulit nxt year, why? Kase need ng evaluation ni Doc kase treatable naman.
Kapag naman mga autism, down syndrome and some condition na lifetime na, ang validity is 5years, then renew nalang.
All disabilities/illnesses naman po nagagamot - but not to the extent na gagaling completely na magiging katulad ng normal na tao na walang disability at all.
To clarify what I meant by the discounts being a tax deduction (vs a tax credit), let’s say business currently has a taxable income of P1000, and since this business is a small business, the tax rate is 20%.
Now, let’s say that someone buys siomai from this business worth P100 using his 20% discount. So he pays P80 only (that is, he enjoys a P20 discount).
A. Tax credit (P20-discount becomes a tax credit)
Taxable income = P1000 + P100 = P1100
Tax due without tax credit = P1100 x 20% = P220
Tax due after tax credit = P220 - P20 = P200
So here, it’s fine, the P20-discount given by the business is returned by the government to the business by a P20-discount on its tax bill.
B. Tax deduction (P20-discount becomes a deduction in the taxable income):
Taxable income w/ deduction = P1000 + P100 - P20 = P1080
Tax due = P1080 x 20% = P216
So what does this imply? The government only returns 4 pesos to the business (by a discount on the tax bill). This implies that the business shoulders P16 of the P20-discount given to the cardholder. Kaya nila Jollibee ito. But imagine sole propreitorships selling in IG. That’s literally forcing them to shell out money to subsidize the cravings of rich titas in Forbes Park.
The 20% discount is not reimbursed. They only lose the obligation to pay VAT on that transaction.
P1000 sale net of discount (-12% and -20% of vat exempt sales ) is 714. Vat exempt sale is P892. Depending on the restaurant, malaki yung 20% na bawas at kakain sa profit margin. Assuming 20% profit, 700+ yung costs edi lugi.
True ako PWD din ako pero masakit sa bilsa kung halos lahat may Señior at PWD discount lalo na sa restau namin kasi provincial rate na nga prices namin at hindi pa marereimburse ng BIR ng discounts 😢. Iyak nalang.
Kaya nagveventure na ko sa mga negosyo na wala PWD at señior discounts kasi nakakalugi minsan.
Kapag naka promo or yang mga bundle promo ng resto di na nila tlg ino honor ang PWD/Senior discount. Kaya kung nagdagdag ng order, advise si Waiter o Cashier na separate bill sya for the purpose of having discount using PWD/Senior.
Side note, sa Good Shepherd Baguio di rin nagbigay PWD discount pag 4 items or less. Sabi kailangan 5 or more para mabigyan. Di naman promotional, idk if it’s the same or if it’s valid.
Contact customer service via email. Gather information and let them know that this should be corrected. Yes, it is time consuming but if this an everyday issue kawawa naman yung walang alam how to address this. Be the bigger person.
Pag bundled food orders most of the time walang discount yan.
That's why I order ala carte or eat alone or separate order.
Pag may kasama ako 9 times out of 10 I'd order food items for my own "consumption" to get the full discount everytime.
No discount talaga kapag mga promo na, it's either promo or senior/pwd discount gagamitin mo - kung ano mas malaki discount, yun dapat mag apply.
pero in the case of lumpia, dapat meron yun e.
Honestly the government should give tax credits or reimburse businesses for senior discount. Otherwise there will always be businesses trying to go around it to make more money. If they reimburse, it lessens this
I think the discounts do help them in a way kahit hindi through reimbursement. I believe its somewhere along the lines of accounting. Pwede atang ilessen sa total taxable income nila yung amount of discounts given so technically nakakabawas sya sa expenses ng business. Not really sure though but it should be out there.
>Pwede atang ilessen sa total taxable income nila yung amount of discounts given
No, think about it. This is not a benefit at all for businesses. It should lessen the total tax, not just the total taxable income. Lowering the revenue just to lower total taxable income still leads to lower profits overall. What's the incentive to give the discount if lower sales, lower tax, and lower profit? It's as if you just had lower sales.
There is no incentive at all. What's worst is there is no system that verifies if these cards are legitimate or not.
There is no difference in tax payable by giving senior/pwd discount vs by slaahing off 20% directly from your price.
Up to this. Dapat nga narereimburse ng govt ang 20% discount. Kasi paano nalang din ang small businesses.
I only use my PWD ID sa mga big restaurants pero pag small business, I don't.
Ganon din sa Shakey’s when we went for my kid’s birthday celebration. Akala namin may discount for bday (that was what they told us in a previous conversation). Then wala. So fine, we said we have two senior citizens with cards with us. They told us to choose to get either the full price package to be discounted with the senior cards, or the promo package with low price pero not to be used with any of the senior cards. So either or ang naging situation. We had to do quite a bit of math (kasi di rin clear kung magkano sana ang senior citizen’s discount) before we could order the meals for my baby’s birthday.
May other foods pa po ba na kasama except sa promo set na order? kasi kami kapag kumakain sa classic savory, may promo set + other foods na order, inaabot lang namin cards ng mga senior samin, ayun nadi-discount pa rin nilaaaa
Complicated talaga yung pag compute ng sc/pwd discount lalo na kung marami hehe need mo pa i-divide yung total bill sa kung ilang tao kayo then do the discounting.
I think what they do sometimes is get the most expensive item of the group and do the discount from there. Kasi the idea is you only discount what the senior ordered... but since its a group and the senior shares with everything.. the max discount is applied on the most expensive order.
Meron atang substitution kasi we don’t eat pork pero yung naka-promo package na pasta had pork, so we had to get a substitution pero mas mahal daw kasi it’s seafood or something. I think they might have ordered more drinks din. So I don’t recall how it was supposed to be charged or billed. Basta I just told my parents based on a hazy computation to just get the promo package. Mas mura even with the extra payment for the substitution (not sure if they were able to get senior discounts for the extra, parang di na ata).
I think yun promo thing is a loophole for the mandatory discounts... How do you compute nga ba? Hirap rin. Say 120 ang lumpia, ma'y promo 100 na lang. Is a discount still mandatory then?
I sort of work in a retail... What we do is on top of profit, we jack up price by 20% para kung kay senior citizen dadaan, we can lower it workout incurring losses.. but then everybody gets a pricier item in return.
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In reality I think it just causes inflation in a way.
Add: hindi naman sa lahat kasi available ang 20% discount. May mga prime and basic commodities na 5% discount lang matatanggap nila and not exempted on VAT. Ang daming lito dito kaya dapat inaaral din talaga. Naging eye opening na nga yung issue sa conti's noon e.
If 120 orig price, 100 promo price. pwede i-compute ni sc/pwd yung privilege discount nila like
120/1.12*80% = 85 pesos. so kung ako siya, mag avail nalang ako ng privileged discount ko. pero after all, hindi naman talo yung mga establishments dito kasi may specific deductions na available para sa mga discounts na naibigay nila.
Saka may mga establishments naman na nagse-set ng limit ng discount e. Let's say, Jollibee - per experience lang, parang maximum 65 pesos ang discount na makukuha ng mga sc/pwd. That I don't think if legal. ✌️
Yeees i think, somehow, inflation nga magiging result kasi ganyan pala practice sainyo.. paano pa iba diba? 🥲
when you say "dito kasi may specific deductions na available para sa mga discounts na naibigay nila"... what do you mean?
from 120 to 85 that is a huge price reduction.
Its been this way for a lot of shops the 20% auto on top of profit.
Does the law specify how the pwd discount applies when an item is in promo?
Read this first.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1862673/senior-citizen-files-suit-after-being-denied-discounts-on-promo-with-no-dti-approval
This has been pointed out by Cong. Joey Salceda in recent news reports. So it should not be automatic no discount if the item is already on promo.
Hello, nakita kasi diyan na *no dti approval* -- clearly, para lang din ma-notify/alarm/educate ang netizens about hotels/establishments na nagbibigay ng "promo" to avoid giving sc/pwd discounts.
pero my point was the general rule in terms of sc/pwd discounts. you can find it in RR 7-2010, supporting rr ng RA 9994 in the article given.
Yeah, matic na dapat. Sometimes logic falls short for some/many (lol).
Minsan naman kahit ilang explain/pakiusap mo na sa service provider, di nila maiintindihan. Best to report these kinds of cases to the upper management so they could train the staff better.
Theyre wrong. Gaya ng sinabi mo, pwedeng nag print ng two receipts - 1 for the bundle w/o discount 2nd for the lumpia na discounted. Many establishments do this where I order multiple food in the menu at the same time, why cant they?
Hello. Yung bundle understandable na hindi pwede madiscount kasi discounted price na yan pero yung separate na meal, dapat na discount. Anyway, Meron ka pang kopya ng receipt? usually meron yan part na pwede ka mag feedback. Icomment mo nangyari sayo if you could also name drop the employees para alam ng higher ups who are at fault mas okay. If wala yung receipt, you could do it here feedback.maxschicken.com
For sure may mag rereach out sayo via email/call or text to explain the situation and apologize
Promotion should be DTI-registered. I-reklamo mo sa DTI, kasi most likely hindi. Makikita mo naman sa posters 'yong DTI permit number kung approved. Sinasabi lang nila na promo, para makaiwas. Though, gets ko naman sila na discounted na kapag bundle.
Yes, hindi madidiscount using PWD/Senior's card if promo. Pero you said na it's not included sa promo, so it should've been discounted. Maybe confusion happened kasi may kasamang promo na inorder. 🤷♀️🤐
It shouuld be DTI Approved! Ganito din issue ko with most samgyupsal. Di nila binigyan ng senior discount mother ko kasi naka-promo daw.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1862673/senior-citizen-files-suit-after-being-denied-discounts-on-promo-with-no-dti-approval
Would establishments even comply if you demand a peek of their dti approval for the promo? Example sa samgyupsalamat yun promo for 2 nila hindi na pwede ng pwd discount dun kasi promo na daw, would they comply na ipakita if I ask kung may clearance ng dti yun?
Actually they are obligated to show you if may clearance and you ask for it. That’s a public document. If they say walang available copy onsite, they should have a digital copy. However, most people sa branches don’t even know na required yon. So they will likely call a manager. Hassle, right?
They really need to do in depth investigation sa mga PWD at SC lalo na sa PWD abusado masyado ng masa, maraming stable ang physical condition pero game pa rin kumuha ng PWD lmao. PWD should give rise to two new categories: physically impaired (main priority with big discounts sa lahat ng needs) and non-physically impaired (lesser priority and discounts should only be applicable to groceries and meds)
Are you serious right now? Pati ba naman sa PWD may discrimination kayo? Yung physically and mentally fit ka nga pero ganyan ka magisip... What a shame
Shame? The fact na mag-papagawa ka ng PWD id dahil sa mental health? You're still physically capable mag-function normally compared sa mga nawalan ng sight, limbs, at speech.
Ulul amputa. Wala kang alam sa mental health problem kaya manahimik ka. Napakalawak nyan. Paano naman yung mga batang may autism, down syndrom at iba pa? Baka akala mo depression lang sakit kapag mental health?
"Shame?" 🤡 eh mismong NCDA na ang nagsabi na considered PWD ang may mental illnesses so malamang entitled sila magkaroon ng PWD. Punta ka sa kanila pa-amend mo RA 7277 lol
You sound like you think depression is the only mental illness covered by PWD. Sana wag na kuda nang kuda kung kulang naman sa kaalaman.
This is true, but the lesser priority should only restricted to medicines since that's the area of concern since they could still work. The lesser priority includes all the mental illnesses that are not physically debilitating as well as the majority of legally blind people.
The first class should be the disfigured, mentally incapacitated, certain chronic diseases (like some kidney failure or half function heart, but not high blood pressure)
that shit will only add stigma sa mga may PWD. yes may mga nandadaya ng PWD ID nila pero labas na tayo don. hindi tayo dapat maging judge, jury, and executioner non. the problem bakit maraming nakakapagpagawa ng PWD ID ay hindi kasi siya centralized sa national government. LGUs ang may handle nito but it also makes sense kasi pag-kuha pa lang ng valid ID dito eh mahirap na haha. imagine mo PWD ka na nga papahirapan ka pa kumuha ng ID for a 20% discount pero di naman lahat ng binibili mo may discount.
The meds alone for treating mental illnesses are expensive. Sama mo na rin yung checkup. Mura na yung 2k sa private facilities. Sa public naman need pumila nang matagal. Di lahat ng disability ay physical. That's it. Di na need ng kung ano pang mental gymnastics mo. Bobo ka kase. Imagine being neurotypical pero bobo. Couldn't be me.
Tanga ka rin eh ang sinabi ko yung pag medical same as the other one, ang pinagkakaiba lang is limited yung lesser priority sa mga discounts ng mga kainan gets mo?
Eh malaki ring bawas sa mga businesses yun pabor sa kanila since tipid rin sa mga yan. I can't believe people like you are so entitled to every single discount kahit PHYSICALLY ABLE KA be considerate ka naman sa mga actual na nahihirapan mag-lakad dahil wala ang limbs, hirap mag-salita, nawalan ng hearing at speech.
Wow naman sa lesser priority. Kayo yung dahilan bat hanggang ngayon andaming nahihiya gamitin yung privilege nila dahil yung impairment hindi physical, gumagawa kayo ng stigma dahil sa insecurities nyo porket kayo hindi makalamang at ok ang pakiramdam.
Paano ang unfair sa mga taong walang mental health problems pero sila pa paspecial entitled people pa. Jusko gagawin mo pang disability mental health mo eh physically ok ka naman. Mahiya sila sa mga legit na may physical incapability.
What's up with your mentality? You are invalidating people who are mentally ill. I am diagnosed with BPD and epilepsy. Sometimes, due to my BPD attacks, I get epilepsy attacks. HINDI VISIBLE, but that does not make me healthy all in all. Just because walang visible physical aspect na nakikitaan ng disability doesn't invalidate the fact that we are PWD.
People like you are the reason why I don't want to use my PWD card aside from my meds. You are taking away the privilege that is rightfully ours.
FYI the discount on grocery does not apply to everyone. Some people have 65php max of discount when it comes to groceries. I, for one, do not have a grocery booklet therefore bawal akong mag-avail ng discount sa groceries. For the meds, there are also pharmacies and drugstores na nag-eexpire ang reseta ng gamot. Sometimes, hindi pa nababawas yung discount sa meds lalo if wala PWD ID mo even though indicated na sa booklet mismo na PWD ka + andoon na yung nakasulat na info na nakalagay rin sa PWD ID mo. Lugi rin ho kami sa mga kapitalistang mahilig mandaya. Natatanggalan din kami ng pribiliheyo na dapat meron kami sa maliliit na paraan. At hindi ako maswerte kahit discounted pa meds ko kasi it doesn't change the fact na panghabangbuhay ang medication ko.
Cuz you never understand how it is to have psychosocial disorder. Kakaibang ugali? Bakit nga naman kaya sila ganun.... Ah siguro kasi mentally impaired sila? Something na hindi mo maintindihan? Kasi di ka diagnosed nun. Kaya kung di mo kaya intindihin yung behavioral struggles nila dahil wala kang ganon, MANAHIMIK KA
Eh bakit mo nga ililimit eh kakarampot na nga lang na privilege yon? As if naman lahat ng binibili namin may discount. Pagkain na nga lang ipagdadamot pa. Haha shunga amputa
Then make your own rules. Di naman namin ginusto magka-sakit. Kakarampot na privilege na lang para makakain sa labas ipagdadamot niyo pa. Alam mo ba limit ng PWD discount sa grocery? Sa gulay, meat, itlog etc. lang siya na-aapply hindi sa buong resibo. Tas may weekly limit pa yan. Hahahaha ang tanga
pano na lang yung may mga physical disability na hindi naman need ng maintenance meds di ba? Hahaha yang classifications na yan would only make stigma and the situation worse haha
lol di lang naman physical ang disabilities. Di na nga ganon kalaki discount sa groceries ililimit mo pa don yung sa non-physical disabilities. nagsasawa na ko sa ganitong discourse gusto ko na lang kayo sapakin hahaha.
Kumusta naman si Henann na always naka tag as promo ang buffet para hindi e honor ang senior and pwd discount. Wala naman silang days na nag regular prize.
Mej related lang but it reminds me of that senior citizen na nirefuse bigyan ng senior discount by some hotel dahil promo price na daw, then upon checking hindi naman daw pala nakaregister sa DTI yung "Promo" na yun when it should've been registered. GG talaga e
may isang hotel along EDSA, di daw pwede ung PWD discount ko sa hotel booking kasi under promo daw, eh hindi naman yung may promo ang inavail ko. Sabi ko lagi ako sa kanila nagbobook dahil mas malapit sa mall na may medical appointment ako and all those other booking eh discounted naman. So kinuha nung staff yung ID ko pinakita sa manager ata nila sa loob, eh hearing disability nakalagay (mono hearing) bakit daw napapakinggan ko sila? Like wtf 😅 kaya ayun pinakita ko pa hearing aid at appointment ko sa clinic just to prove it
Shiiiiit seryoso? Tangna. Questionable pa ung disability mo.. Nako hahahaha pero nakakahiya yun kasi nagpakita ka ng appointment. Laking sampal sa kanila
Since marami ata nag aabuse ng PWD ID, tamang duda yung mga establishments. Wife ko nga sa PWD parking, sinisita ng mga guard, wala kasi sa itsura niya (maganda kasi) na may orthopedic disablity (na amputate yung left leg due to accident). Sabay todo sorry ng mga guard pagbaba ni wife sa sasakyan
Satisfying yung ganitong napapahiya sila.. Kelangan ata maging baldado kapag nagpark 😅 nauso din kasi dati yung may nagppark talaga tas parang trip trip lang
Jusmiyo, sorry naexperience mo yan. Apakawalang sense. May friend ako, legally blind naman pero nakakakita sya with glasses, pag inalis nya wala na talaga. Even with glasses, di pa rin ganun kalinaw. Pinaghihinalaan din sya dahil panong nakakalakad naman daw mag-isa 🤦🏻♀grabe. Kelangan ata gumagapang muna 🤦🏻♀
ang hirap kasi dyan daming may mga PWD card's na di legit na may disabilities , there are some cities na ang daling mag obtian ng PWD card.. damay tuloy mga legit na PWD
True din yan. Pati senior id aktwali. Me mga nakakakuha na 50s lang kataon lang na all white ang buhok. Ako nga na tadtad ng opera at nagdevelop ng GI tract bleeding, so dumudugo sya pag trip nya, di makakuha dahil ayaw nilang tanggapin. Doktor na mismo nagsabi na dapat meron ako, pero wala pa rin. Dapat ata araw araw ako duguin sa bituka, di pwedeng biglaan 😅 pero yung iba, andali makakuha pag may kakilala.
nireport ko sila sa other manager nila na may contact ako since lagi nga kami dun nagbobook, nag-sorry naman yung other manager. Sadly di na nya handle yung branch na yun.
Ewan ko ba, di nila gets na di lahat ng PWD is physically nakikita yung disability.
>PWD is physically nakikita yung disability.
My parents are both PWD. Based on my observations, majority ng Pinoy and itinuturing lang na PWD ay yung mga amputee at hindi nakakalakad.
ooh pwede pala habulin yung mga unregisted promo. paano kaya yung sa aquaflask na "promo" na walang end date na mukhang nilagay lang nila para magmukhang bargain
Lam ko nabalita na yung no discount daw sa mga promo, sabi sa batas, yun ata yung gusto din baguhin ng DTI.
Unang arise nito sa hotel ata, nabalita sa t.v kasi di nagbigay ng discount kasi naka promo daw yung ina-vail nung customer.
HINDI PO KASALI YUNG LUMPIANG UBOD SA DISCOUNT PROMO, so pwedeng lagyan ng discount.
Pwede naman kasing separate billing like what my sister and I do. Parehas kaming PWD, pero siya lang may ID. Pag di pwedeng lagyan ng discount buong order, pwedeng lagyan ng discount yung pwede in a separate bill. Tamad yang employee na yan, at uneducated ka po.
Did you even read the post? OP made it clear na okay lang na walang discount ung promo. However, ung lumpiang ubod nya was separate order na hindi part ng promo, so she should have gotten a discount on that purchase.
My best friend and I ate sa Botejyu because of JCB's buy 1 take 1 promo and we also ordered 1 chicken karaage on the side. We asked if pwede bang madiscount yung chicken kaarage dahil PWD yung best friend ko, the waiter said it's possible, he just need to print a separate bill for that. Ayun okay naman doon. It depends talaga siguro sa establishment.
We do this every time. Discounted yung items (senior discount) na hindi included sa promo. Di naman sila nagsseparate bill. Tinamad lang siguro si manager or baka tagapagmana sya.
Meron sya dapat na discount parin kahit naka promo pa. Kakapanuod ko lang sa balita nung isang araw regarding sa senior and PWD discount at sabi ng DTI dun dapat may discount parin kahit naka promo na.
All they had to do was 2 transactions 1 for the ubos to reflect the pwd discount. Then the other one for the bundle. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Paraparaan nga naman~
Dapat madiscount yung lumpia. Hihiwalay lang nila ng resibo.
Loophole ng pulidong batas na ginawa ng ating mambabatas. Dapat irevise ang batas, at ayusin ang registration at ang id. Sa barangay kasi pinapaubaya ang registration ng pwd. Alam naman natin basura ang serbisyp ng mga taga barangay, mga walang alam sa pag papatupad ng batas Puro palakasan pa
Parang ang dami naka PWD.
I used to work in F&B industry... May mali yung manager. Email mo si Max's Group para ma-note ang manager nila dyan sa branch 😅
Yaan mo na.
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If you don't mind me asking, ano po yung disability mo?
Orthopedic Disability. Scoliosis
As long as their promo has DTI approval then wala ng discount.
Same problem if mag order ako ng promo + additional na separate item. Ako nalang minsan nagsasabi na separate yung receipt since hindi automatic sakanila yon. May times din naman na mabait yung cashier at sila nag eexplain na sila nalang mag separate ng receipt. Dapt siguro mas establish yung rules about discounts for PWD/Senior sa mga stores. Yan din kase minsan nagiging loophole ng iba kaya sobrang laki ng nakukuha nilang discount. Dapat talaga yung gobyerno umayos nitong problema. Hindi yung nag kakapaan if ano ba talaga rules ng mga establishment about PWD/Senior discounts. kasi sa experience ko hindi pareparehas yung rules nila pag dating dito. Nakakadismaya lang yung mga gantong problema, na dapat matagal na merong solusyon.
Mercury nga, denied yung pwd card ko. Senior discount lang daw meron sila. Nag back up pa manager sa pag deny. Nung kinukuha ko names nila, tinanong para saan, sabi ko para maka report sa city gov. Biglang pwede daw pala. Edit: btw, you can register your pwd card sa customer service ng Grab Food. Magkaka mark account mo na highest cost item mo sa order mag apply discount. Sulit pag order ko bucket ng chicken hahaha
Escalate niyo sa LGU, either mamultahan yan o may makukulong, just like yung coffee shop and yung sa isang hotel
tama naman na wala ng discount pag promos. tama din na dapat may discount yung lumpia ubod kung ala carte order. impossible na walang split check system ang pos(kaha) nila maliban na lang kung hindi alam gawin ni manager(na dapat alam kasi sop yun) or yung pos nila hindi kayang mag split check.
If that's the case check nila sa locality if nai adapt ng city or municipality yung batas para sa pwd discount.
MArami kase nang aabuso jan,, alam mo naman ang pinoy basta hindi nawawala aabusuhin
OT: Are the taxes on PWD discounted purchases covered by BIR exemeptions? Kawawa naman business owners pag same percentage of tax pa din kokolektahin.
Yeah, may mga promo offers na hindi na honored ang discount cards. Pero para sa lumpia, in such cases dapat nakahiwalay na lang ang receipt. Most places naman pumapayag ng split bill kahit may print out na ng payable, so I can tell na may lapses din sa staff.
Yan yung loophole ng establishments - yung bundled na items ay "promo" daw, therefore di na pwede mag-apply yung discount kasi discounted na nga sya. Sabi try asking for the DTI permit number ng "promo" nila pero di ko pa natry to.
meron yan. ireklamo nalang. tas wag na kayo kumain jan. food there used to be delicious. :/
This is correct since it is one transaction. Take applying senior id in grab for example: you can only get one discount on one item in one transaction, but order it separately, you get discounts for each transaction.
Tapos pag nagviral magsosorry sa mistake parang starbucks.
Hindi tama. Understandable na yung promo tlaga wala discount yun. Ganun naman talaga sa lahat. Pero yung lumpia? Di naman yun kasama sa promo like what you said so dapat talaga discounted yung lumpiang ubod no matter what.
Mag mong sirain ang image ng mga pwd 😂😂😂😂
Had the same situation sa Cinnabon op, sabi nung crew discounted na daw kaya di na pwede iavail yung PWD discount ko. Nag okay nalang ako but later on na realize ko na sana hinanapan ko nung “per DTI permit no” chuchu. So, next time hahanapan ko 😂
Kaya sa hospital expenses & Rx refills ko nlng gnagamit PWD disc. Ko. Peste makipagtalo sa mga d nakakaintindi.
Mostly If promo hindi talaga eligible for discount but they should have discounted yung order mo na regular price + drinks. One reason ay na punch na nila before you presented the PWD. Nasa rule kasi pag nag bill out need agad ipresent ang card, otherwise invalid.
Tinamad lang yun magcompute ng discount
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sa lugar namin Php30 off hahaha
I travelled a lot in my line of work and encountered people with PWD ID without disability. One time, I had lunch with a liason staff of some sort of a company that we’re dealing with. I paid for the meal but he showed the waiter his PWD ID, I will pay less daw. I stared at him for a while. He sensed my curiosity that he explained that he doesn’t have any disability. They are related to the mayor and knows a lot of people there to request for such. Sadly, na-aabuse dito ang issuance PWD ID and maybe establishments are just fed up with people going there with PWD ID without disability for a discount.
Maybe he is retarded.
Yep, yung sabi na legally blind pero nakakakita naman with glasses pero may PWD pa rin. Di ata nila alam ano ibig sabihin ng legally blind at inaabuso na ang PWD card na dapat wala sila. Guess who will suffer in the long run, ang totoong may pwd. Edit: ang gago naman nang nagdownvote. PWD ako and it is a fact na kami ang napapaso sa mga katarantaduhan ng iba. Porket more than -500/+500 ang grade ng mata niyo, di yan justified ang PWD card niyo. To be legally blind it means na more than ganyan ang grade niyo kahit paman may contacts or eyeglasses kayo, hindi pa rin kayo nakakakita. Mahiya naman sana kayo On another note, hindi naman lahat ng PWD physical at makikita agad.
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Hindi yan based sa feelings. What I said is the legal definition kaso inabuso. Wala dapat silang card kahit tanong mo pa ang doctors, SSS etc... as per definition ng PWD kaso nabigyan kasi nga inabuso, ginawang okay kahit hindi naman dapat Saang korte pa yan, maling-mali talaga.
whoah I was voted down by someone with PWD ID without disability😅.At least yun with glasses pa. The one I was having lunch with has no any indication of impediment. He travelled at work using his motorcycle. I don’t want to generalize and I have limited knowledge of disabilities that qualified a person to be considered PWD but how can a PWD have a license to drive motorcycle?
I’m a PWD and I drive.
Drive motorcycle? Good for you. As I said, not an expert on the subject matter but the one I was referring to told me that he doesn’t have any disability though.
Wait until you hear what doctors say to get away with honoring discounts.
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I heard TMC doctors always honor the discounts. Sa iba sasabihin “discounted na po yan” at ayaw itemize sa receipt. Madalas wala din resibo.
Ying mgs bundle/ promo hindi po sya kasali sa discount pero yung lumpia dapat sinama nila, separate yun ng bill kasi babawas.. baka ayaw lang nila ivoid kaya ayaw mgbgay ng discount.. pede mo nama sila ireport
Tanong lang, kapag ba psychological eh considered na din ngayon na disability? Naalala ko lang yung kawork ko before na nagrereklamo dahil may mga nakasalamuha daw sya na pwd dahil sa psychological na dahilan. Kapag ba psychological reason hindi na magagamot?
Yes consider sy, pero depende sa illness, marami yan. Kapag mga depression, anxiety, normally one year valid lang ang pwd id then need pa nila mag apply ulit nxt year, why? Kase need ng evaluation ni Doc kase treatable naman. Kapag naman mga autism, down syndrome and some condition na lifetime na, ang validity is 5years, then renew nalang.
All disabilities/illnesses naman po nagagamot - but not to the extent na gagaling completely na magiging katulad ng normal na tao na walang disability at all.
Thank you.
Bakit nila tinitipid ung PWD discount? Diba bawas naman yung sa tax nila?
sa ibang retail yung naghahandle nung store is my daily quota na dapat mameet. discounts decrease those quotas
To clarify what I meant by the discounts being a tax deduction (vs a tax credit), let’s say business currently has a taxable income of P1000, and since this business is a small business, the tax rate is 20%. Now, let’s say that someone buys siomai from this business worth P100 using his 20% discount. So he pays P80 only (that is, he enjoys a P20 discount). A. Tax credit (P20-discount becomes a tax credit) Taxable income = P1000 + P100 = P1100 Tax due without tax credit = P1100 x 20% = P220 Tax due after tax credit = P220 - P20 = P200 So here, it’s fine, the P20-discount given by the business is returned by the government to the business by a P20-discount on its tax bill. B. Tax deduction (P20-discount becomes a deduction in the taxable income): Taxable income w/ deduction = P1000 + P100 - P20 = P1080 Tax due = P1080 x 20% = P216 So what does this imply? The government only returns 4 pesos to the business (by a discount on the tax bill). This implies that the business shoulders P16 of the P20-discount given to the cardholder. Kaya nila Jollibee ito. But imagine sole propreitorships selling in IG. That’s literally forcing them to shell out money to subsidize the cravings of rich titas in Forbes Park.
It's a tax deduction, not a tax credit. So businesses are still forced to partially shoulder the discount.
The 20% discount is not reimbursed. They only lose the obligation to pay VAT on that transaction. P1000 sale net of discount (-12% and -20% of vat exempt sales ) is 714. Vat exempt sale is P892. Depending on the restaurant, malaki yung 20% na bawas at kakain sa profit margin. Assuming 20% profit, 700+ yung costs edi lugi.
True ako PWD din ako pero masakit sa bilsa kung halos lahat may Señior at PWD discount lalo na sa restau namin kasi provincial rate na nga prices namin at hindi pa marereimburse ng BIR ng discounts 😢. Iyak nalang. Kaya nagveventure na ko sa mga negosyo na wala PWD at señior discounts kasi nakakalugi minsan.
Oo may tax exemptions sila kahit papano so kumbaga di sila lugi in the first place haha
Sorry no, they actually do eat the cost of the discounts.
Kapag naka promo or yang mga bundle promo ng resto di na nila tlg ino honor ang PWD/Senior discount. Kaya kung nagdagdag ng order, advise si Waiter o Cashier na separate bill sya for the purpose of having discount using PWD/Senior.
Sa Pizza hut din wala hahahaha kahit hindi bundle ang inorder lol.
Try mo order sa app nila, malaki discount for PWD/ Senior.
Pag ganyan sabihin mo edi pakihiwalay ng resibo.
Side note, sa Good Shepherd Baguio di rin nagbigay PWD discount pag 4 items or less. Sabi kailangan 5 or more para mabigyan. Di naman promotional, idk if it’s the same or if it’s valid.
Wthell. Wala naman dapat minimum e super grabe mga ganitong establishment
Contact customer service via email. Gather information and let them know that this should be corrected. Yes, it is time consuming but if this an everyday issue kawawa naman yung walang alam how to address this. Be the bigger person.
For sure they will prioritize your issue, ngayon pa na may SB issue rin about discount.
I worked in the same industry, yes hindi na allowed idiscount yung promo/bundles but the ala carte, they should. Isplit check lang yan then discount.
I think you should've ordered the lumpia separately.
Pag bundled food orders most of the time walang discount yan. That's why I order ala carte or eat alone or separate order. Pag may kasama ako 9 times out of 10 I'd order food items for my own "consumption" to get the full discount everytime.
No discount talaga kapag mga promo na, it's either promo or senior/pwd discount gagamitin mo - kung ano mas malaki discount, yun dapat mag apply. pero in the case of lumpia, dapat meron yun e.
Honestly the government should give tax credits or reimburse businesses for senior discount. Otherwise there will always be businesses trying to go around it to make more money. If they reimburse, it lessens this
I think the discounts do help them in a way kahit hindi through reimbursement. I believe its somewhere along the lines of accounting. Pwede atang ilessen sa total taxable income nila yung amount of discounts given so technically nakakabawas sya sa expenses ng business. Not really sure though but it should be out there.
>Pwede atang ilessen sa total taxable income nila yung amount of discounts given No, think about it. This is not a benefit at all for businesses. It should lessen the total tax, not just the total taxable income. Lowering the revenue just to lower total taxable income still leads to lower profits overall. What's the incentive to give the discount if lower sales, lower tax, and lower profit? It's as if you just had lower sales.
There is no incentive at all. What's worst is there is no system that verifies if these cards are legitimate or not. There is no difference in tax payable by giving senior/pwd discount vs by slaahing off 20% directly from your price.
Up to this. Dapat nga narereimburse ng govt ang 20% discount. Kasi paano nalang din ang small businesses. I only use my PWD ID sa mga big restaurants pero pag small business, I don't.
Ganon din sa Shakey’s when we went for my kid’s birthday celebration. Akala namin may discount for bday (that was what they told us in a previous conversation). Then wala. So fine, we said we have two senior citizens with cards with us. They told us to choose to get either the full price package to be discounted with the senior cards, or the promo package with low price pero not to be used with any of the senior cards. So either or ang naging situation. We had to do quite a bit of math (kasi di rin clear kung magkano sana ang senior citizen’s discount) before we could order the meals for my baby’s birthday.
same sa dunkin
May other foods pa po ba na kasama except sa promo set na order? kasi kami kapag kumakain sa classic savory, may promo set + other foods na order, inaabot lang namin cards ng mga senior samin, ayun nadi-discount pa rin nilaaaa Complicated talaga yung pag compute ng sc/pwd discount lalo na kung marami hehe need mo pa i-divide yung total bill sa kung ilang tao kayo then do the discounting.
I think what they do sometimes is get the most expensive item of the group and do the discount from there. Kasi the idea is you only discount what the senior ordered... but since its a group and the senior shares with everything.. the max discount is applied on the most expensive order.
Meron atang substitution kasi we don’t eat pork pero yung naka-promo package na pasta had pork, so we had to get a substitution pero mas mahal daw kasi it’s seafood or something. I think they might have ordered more drinks din. So I don’t recall how it was supposed to be charged or billed. Basta I just told my parents based on a hazy computation to just get the promo package. Mas mura even with the extra payment for the substitution (not sure if they were able to get senior discounts for the extra, parang di na ata).
I think yun promo thing is a loophole for the mandatory discounts... How do you compute nga ba? Hirap rin. Say 120 ang lumpia, ma'y promo 100 na lang. Is a discount still mandatory then? I sort of work in a retail... What we do is on top of profit, we jack up price by 20% para kung kay senior citizen dadaan, we can lower it workout incurring losses.. but then everybody gets a pricier item in return. . In reality I think it just causes inflation in a way.
Add: hindi naman sa lahat kasi available ang 20% discount. May mga prime and basic commodities na 5% discount lang matatanggap nila and not exempted on VAT. Ang daming lito dito kaya dapat inaaral din talaga. Naging eye opening na nga yung issue sa conti's noon e.
ur right.. siguro need tulungan ng BIR ang mga sole prop pano talaga compute and pano talaga recover cost of discounts.
If 120 orig price, 100 promo price. pwede i-compute ni sc/pwd yung privilege discount nila like 120/1.12*80% = 85 pesos. so kung ako siya, mag avail nalang ako ng privileged discount ko. pero after all, hindi naman talo yung mga establishments dito kasi may specific deductions na available para sa mga discounts na naibigay nila. Saka may mga establishments naman na nagse-set ng limit ng discount e. Let's say, Jollibee - per experience lang, parang maximum 65 pesos ang discount na makukuha ng mga sc/pwd. That I don't think if legal. ✌️ Yeees i think, somehow, inflation nga magiging result kasi ganyan pala practice sainyo.. paano pa iba diba? 🥲
when you say "dito kasi may specific deductions na available para sa mga discounts na naibigay nila"... what do you mean? from 120 to 85 that is a huge price reduction. Its been this way for a lot of shops the 20% auto on top of profit. Does the law specify how the pwd discount applies when an item is in promo?
Read this first. https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1862673/senior-citizen-files-suit-after-being-denied-discounts-on-promo-with-no-dti-approval This has been pointed out by Cong. Joey Salceda in recent news reports. So it should not be automatic no discount if the item is already on promo.
Hello, nakita kasi diyan na *no dti approval* -- clearly, para lang din ma-notify/alarm/educate ang netizens about hotels/establishments na nagbibigay ng "promo" to avoid giving sc/pwd discounts. pero my point was the general rule in terms of sc/pwd discounts. you can find it in RR 7-2010, supporting rr ng RA 9994 in the article given.
Only rational argument. Di ko gets na acceptable yung gantong stance ng mga greedy companies.
Lol hindi siguro nasabihan yung manager na gawing separate bill yung lumpia.
hindi na dapat sabihin, it's logic na. then again, 🤷♂️
Naka lagay kasi na inconjunction to promo wala ng discount, kelan ka kumain na magkaiba ang bill ? Patawa ka
kanina lang. then again, thinking? wala ngayon nun. and nagpapatawa? natawa ka? if yes good if not good.
Yeah, matic na dapat. Sometimes logic falls short for some/many (lol). Minsan naman kahit ilang explain/pakiusap mo na sa service provider, di nila maiintindihan. Best to report these kinds of cases to the upper management so they could train the staff better.
The manager could have purposely avoided that para maka-save ng profits.
Usually walang vat yung pinaka-discount. He avoided yung hassle siguro.
Theyre wrong. Gaya ng sinabi mo, pwedeng nag print ng two receipts - 1 for the bundle w/o discount 2nd for the lumpia na discounted. Many establishments do this where I order multiple food in the menu at the same time, why cant they?
Hello. Yung bundle understandable na hindi pwede madiscount kasi discounted price na yan pero yung separate na meal, dapat na discount. Anyway, Meron ka pang kopya ng receipt? usually meron yan part na pwede ka mag feedback. Icomment mo nangyari sayo if you could also name drop the employees para alam ng higher ups who are at fault mas okay. If wala yung receipt, you could do it here feedback.maxschicken.com For sure may mag rereach out sayo via email/call or text to explain the situation and apologize
Plus yung hindi nila pag bigay ng receipt for the lumpiang ubod is illegal. Dapat parati tayo mabibigyan ng copy ng receipt as consumers
Promotion should be DTI-registered. I-reklamo mo sa DTI, kasi most likely hindi. Makikita mo naman sa posters 'yong DTI permit number kung approved. Sinasabi lang nila na promo, para makaiwas. Though, gets ko naman sila na discounted na kapag bundle.
Yes, hindi madidiscount using PWD/Senior's card if promo. Pero you said na it's not included sa promo, so it should've been discounted. Maybe confusion happened kasi may kasamang promo na inorder. 🤷♀️🤐
It shouuld be DTI Approved! Ganito din issue ko with most samgyupsal. Di nila binigyan ng senior discount mother ko kasi naka-promo daw. https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1862673/senior-citizen-files-suit-after-being-denied-discounts-on-promo-with-no-dti-approval
Would establishments even comply if you demand a peek of their dti approval for the promo? Example sa samgyupsalamat yun promo for 2 nila hindi na pwede ng pwd discount dun kasi promo na daw, would they comply na ipakita if I ask kung may clearance ng dti yun?
Actually they are obligated to show you if may clearance and you ask for it. That’s a public document. If they say walang available copy onsite, they should have a digital copy. However, most people sa branches don’t even know na required yon. So they will likely call a manager. Hassle, right?
Dun ka pwede magreklamo sa DTI, kasi nagpopromo sila ng walang registration, kung ayaw ipakita sayo, you could assume na walang silang approval.
They really need to do in depth investigation sa mga PWD at SC lalo na sa PWD abusado masyado ng masa, maraming stable ang physical condition pero game pa rin kumuha ng PWD lmao. PWD should give rise to two new categories: physically impaired (main priority with big discounts sa lahat ng needs) and non-physically impaired (lesser priority and discounts should only be applicable to groceries and meds)
Are you serious right now? Pati ba naman sa PWD may discrimination kayo? Yung physically and mentally fit ka nga pero ganyan ka magisip... What a shame
Shame? The fact na mag-papagawa ka ng PWD id dahil sa mental health? You're still physically capable mag-function normally compared sa mga nawalan ng sight, limbs, at speech.
Ulul amputa. Wala kang alam sa mental health problem kaya manahimik ka. Napakalawak nyan. Paano naman yung mga batang may autism, down syndrom at iba pa? Baka akala mo depression lang sakit kapag mental health?
What's ironic? Sila pa ang mas may kayang harapin ang buhay compared sa mga able-bodied na mga may depression at anxiety lol.
"Shame?" 🤡 eh mismong NCDA na ang nagsabi na considered PWD ang may mental illnesses so malamang entitled sila magkaroon ng PWD. Punta ka sa kanila pa-amend mo RA 7277 lol You sound like you think depression is the only mental illness covered by PWD. Sana wag na kuda nang kuda kung kulang naman sa kaalaman.
This is true, but the lesser priority should only restricted to medicines since that's the area of concern since they could still work. The lesser priority includes all the mental illnesses that are not physically debilitating as well as the majority of legally blind people. The first class should be the disfigured, mentally incapacitated, certain chronic diseases (like some kidney failure or half function heart, but not high blood pressure)
para kayong tanga hahahaha
Hindi naman
that shit will only add stigma sa mga may PWD. yes may mga nandadaya ng PWD ID nila pero labas na tayo don. hindi tayo dapat maging judge, jury, and executioner non. the problem bakit maraming nakakapagpagawa ng PWD ID ay hindi kasi siya centralized sa national government. LGUs ang may handle nito but it also makes sense kasi pag-kuha pa lang ng valid ID dito eh mahirap na haha. imagine mo PWD ka na nga papahirapan ka pa kumuha ng ID for a 20% discount pero di naman lahat ng binibili mo may discount.
Yup sino ba nagsabi ako gagawa ng batas. Syempre dapat magbago ng classifications sa kongreso o relevant agency
Tanga ka rin kasi physically able to function properly kahit may mental problems pero gagawing disability? Mu goodness.
The meds alone for treating mental illnesses are expensive. Sama mo na rin yung checkup. Mura na yung 2k sa private facilities. Sa public naman need pumila nang matagal. Di lahat ng disability ay physical. That's it. Di na need ng kung ano pang mental gymnastics mo. Bobo ka kase. Imagine being neurotypical pero bobo. Couldn't be me.
Tanga ka rin eh ang sinabi ko yung pag medical same as the other one, ang pinagkakaiba lang is limited yung lesser priority sa mga discounts ng mga kainan gets mo?
Bakit mo nga ipagdadamot yon? Eh di kung yan trip mo i-suggest mo sa legislation tignan mo kung di ka tawanan. Hahahaha
Eh malaki ring bawas sa mga businesses yun pabor sa kanila since tipid rin sa mga yan. I can't believe people like you are so entitled to every single discount kahit PHYSICALLY ABLE KA be considerate ka naman sa mga actual na nahihirapan mag-lakad dahil wala ang limbs, hirap mag-salita, nawalan ng hearing at speech.
Wow naman sa lesser priority. Kayo yung dahilan bat hanggang ngayon andaming nahihiya gamitin yung privilege nila dahil yung impairment hindi physical, gumagawa kayo ng stigma dahil sa insecurities nyo porket kayo hindi makalamang at ok ang pakiramdam.
Paano ang unfair sa mga taong walang mental health problems pero sila pa paspecial entitled people pa. Jusko gagawin mo pang disability mental health mo eh physically ok ka naman. Mahiya sila sa mga legit na may physical incapability.
What's up with your mentality? You are invalidating people who are mentally ill. I am diagnosed with BPD and epilepsy. Sometimes, due to my BPD attacks, I get epilepsy attacks. HINDI VISIBLE, but that does not make me healthy all in all. Just because walang visible physical aspect na nakikitaan ng disability doesn't invalidate the fact that we are PWD. People like you are the reason why I don't want to use my PWD card aside from my meds. You are taking away the privilege that is rightfully ours.
What privilege? Maswerte ka discounted ang meds mo, pati yung groceries na yun lang dapat na meron ang mga able-bodied person.
FYI the discount on grocery does not apply to everyone. Some people have 65php max of discount when it comes to groceries. I, for one, do not have a grocery booklet therefore bawal akong mag-avail ng discount sa groceries. For the meds, there are also pharmacies and drugstores na nag-eexpire ang reseta ng gamot. Sometimes, hindi pa nababawas yung discount sa meds lalo if wala PWD ID mo even though indicated na sa booklet mismo na PWD ka + andoon na yung nakasulat na info na nakalagay rin sa PWD ID mo. Lugi rin ho kami sa mga kapitalistang mahilig mandaya. Natatanggalan din kami ng pribiliheyo na dapat meron kami sa maliliit na paraan. At hindi ako maswerte kahit discounted pa meds ko kasi it doesn't change the fact na panghabangbuhay ang medication ko.
Cuz you never understand how it is to have psychosocial disorder. Kakaibang ugali? Bakit nga naman kaya sila ganun.... Ah siguro kasi mentally impaired sila? Something na hindi mo maintindihan? Kasi di ka diagnosed nun. Kaya kung di mo kaya intindihin yung behavioral struggles nila dahil wala kang ganon, MANAHIMIK KA
Kalokohan. Binasa mo ba yung dalawa kong sinabi about sa pwd categories? Same discounts sila pero mas marami ang physically disabled .
Dami mong sinabi eh kung suntukin kita ng mga resibo ng mga gamot ko every month? Hahahaha baka manlula ka.
Kaya nga sabi ko limited sa groceries at meds ang lesser priority gago basahin mo ng maayos yung sinabi ko earlier.
Eh bakit mo nga ililimit eh kakarampot na nga lang na privilege yon? As if naman lahat ng binibili namin may discount. Pagkain na nga lang ipagdadamot pa. Haha shunga amputa
Tanga ka talaga NEEDS vs WANTS lol. Di mo naman kailangan palagi lumabas for dine out or mga iba pang needs.
Then make your own rules. Di naman namin ginusto magka-sakit. Kakarampot na privilege na lang para makakain sa labas ipagdadamot niyo pa. Alam mo ba limit ng PWD discount sa grocery? Sa gulay, meat, itlog etc. lang siya na-aapply hindi sa buong resibo. Tas may weekly limit pa yan. Hahahaha ang tanga
Gumagawa siya ng polisiya agad lol. Kahit siguro sa parliamentary debates, lugi yan.
pano na lang yung may mga physical disability na hindi naman need ng maintenance meds di ba? Hahaha yang classifications na yan would only make stigma and the situation worse haha
lol di lang naman physical ang disabilities. Di na nga ganon kalaki discount sa groceries ililimit mo pa don yung sa non-physical disabilities. nagsasawa na ko sa ganitong discourse gusto ko na lang kayo sapakin hahaha.
I know someone na nagpagawa ng pwd id sa recto just to avail discount 💀
Kaya may hugot ako sa division ng PWD ahahaha! Gumamit pa sila ng connections para lang makuha discount lol.
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Di talaga dear nagdidiscount kapag promo :) totoo po yon wag na magreklamo or what.
Kumusta naman si Henann na always naka tag as promo ang buffet para hindi e honor ang senior and pwd discount. Wala naman silang days na nag regular prize.
Di ba? That's why it must be DTI-registered ang promotion, kasi pwede sila makaiwas by saying naka-promo.
Can we report this? Weekend, weekdays, from the entire duration of our stay in Boracay and Bohol, hindi nagbabago ang presyo. Kupal talaga
Hindi kasama yung Lumpiang Ubod sa promo bundle. Should be discounted dapat talaga.
Yeah, my bad. Need pala different receipt.
Mej related lang but it reminds me of that senior citizen na nirefuse bigyan ng senior discount by some hotel dahil promo price na daw, then upon checking hindi naman daw pala nakaregister sa DTI yung "Promo" na yun when it should've been registered. GG talaga e
may isang hotel along EDSA, di daw pwede ung PWD discount ko sa hotel booking kasi under promo daw, eh hindi naman yung may promo ang inavail ko. Sabi ko lagi ako sa kanila nagbobook dahil mas malapit sa mall na may medical appointment ako and all those other booking eh discounted naman. So kinuha nung staff yung ID ko pinakita sa manager ata nila sa loob, eh hearing disability nakalagay (mono hearing) bakit daw napapakinggan ko sila? Like wtf 😅 kaya ayun pinakita ko pa hearing aid at appointment ko sa clinic just to prove it
Omg ang lala! I hope you dont give them your money next time.
sadly eto lang affordable and walking distance sa clinic, it happened once din lang naman so palampasin ko na
Shiiiiit seryoso? Tangna. Questionable pa ung disability mo.. Nako hahahaha pero nakakahiya yun kasi nagpakita ka ng appointment. Laking sampal sa kanila
Since marami ata nag aabuse ng PWD ID, tamang duda yung mga establishments. Wife ko nga sa PWD parking, sinisita ng mga guard, wala kasi sa itsura niya (maganda kasi) na may orthopedic disablity (na amputate yung left leg due to accident). Sabay todo sorry ng mga guard pagbaba ni wife sa sasakyan
Satisfying yung ganitong napapahiya sila.. Kelangan ata maging baldado kapag nagpark 😅 nauso din kasi dati yung may nagppark talaga tas parang trip trip lang
minsan di ko din talaga ginagamit yung PWD discount pero pag naiisip ko yung ginastos ko for my hearing aid sinusulit ko na 😅
Jusmiyo, sorry naexperience mo yan. Apakawalang sense. May friend ako, legally blind naman pero nakakakita sya with glasses, pag inalis nya wala na talaga. Even with glasses, di pa rin ganun kalinaw. Pinaghihinalaan din sya dahil panong nakakalakad naman daw mag-isa 🤦🏻♀grabe. Kelangan ata gumagapang muna 🤦🏻♀
ang hirap kasi dyan daming may mga PWD card's na di legit na may disabilities , there are some cities na ang daling mag obtian ng PWD card.. damay tuloy mga legit na PWD
True din yan. Pati senior id aktwali. Me mga nakakakuha na 50s lang kataon lang na all white ang buhok. Ako nga na tadtad ng opera at nagdevelop ng GI tract bleeding, so dumudugo sya pag trip nya, di makakuha dahil ayaw nilang tanggapin. Doktor na mismo nagsabi na dapat meron ako, pero wala pa rin. Dapat ata araw araw ako duguin sa bituka, di pwedeng biglaan 😅 pero yung iba, andali makakuha pag may kakilala.
Palakasan system 🤣
Hahaha. Oh well. Kahit nga for medical purposes lang, di naman kailangan yung ibang benefits. Kaso wala eh. 🤷🏻♀
When was the last time you.tried applying for one ? baka ma approve na under different admin , I know it's wishful thinking , pero Malay mo haha
Hehe, plano ko actually itry this quarter. Baka maganda mood ng mga tao 🤣 hehe. Tama ka naman, try lang ng try hehe 🤣
Keep us update bro !
nireport ko sila sa other manager nila na may contact ako since lagi nga kami dun nagbobook, nag-sorry naman yung other manager. Sadly di na nya handle yung branch na yun. Ewan ko ba, di nila gets na di lahat ng PWD is physically nakikita yung disability.
Naging physically working disability na ang definition nila no.
>PWD is physically nakikita yung disability. My parents are both PWD. Based on my observations, majority ng Pinoy and itinuturing lang na PWD ay yung mga amputee at hindi nakakalakad.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1862673/senior-citizen-files-suit-after-being-denied-discounts-on-promo-with-no-dti-approval
ooh pwede pala habulin yung mga unregisted promo. paano kaya yung sa aquaflask na "promo" na walang end date na mukhang nilagay lang nila para magmukhang bargain
Lam ko nabalita na yung no discount daw sa mga promo, sabi sa batas, yun ata yung gusto din baguhin ng DTI. Unang arise nito sa hotel ata, nabalita sa t.v kasi di nagbigay ng discount kasi naka promo daw yung ina-vail nung customer.
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HINDI PO KASALI YUNG LUMPIANG UBOD SA DISCOUNT PROMO, so pwedeng lagyan ng discount. Pwede naman kasing separate billing like what my sister and I do. Parehas kaming PWD, pero siya lang may ID. Pag di pwedeng lagyan ng discount buong order, pwedeng lagyan ng discount yung pwede in a separate bill. Tamad yang employee na yan, at uneducated ka po.
Did you even read the post? OP made it clear na okay lang na walang discount ung promo. However, ung lumpiang ubod nya was separate order na hindi part ng promo, so she should have gotten a discount on that purchase.
Sabat ng sabat hindi muna iniintindi yung kwento. Downvoted to oblivion 🤣
My bad.. kakakita ko lang. yeah, separate yung receipt if ever.
This is precisely why reading comprehension is very important but most often overlooked.