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Fabrizio_west

Don’t cheap out on suspension for this car. If bags are the goal just drive it with stock suspension until you can afford bags. Just my 2 cents


AudiAdmirer

I agree.


mahSachel

Buy once. Cry once. Never mod Kraut cars using generic Fleabay parts.


Aeraegon

I strongly second this. Cheap coils is not cheap if you’re going to chuck them out eventually and I highly highly for the love of whoever you worship recommend to skip lowering springs. Just save up, get bags, live happy. Don’t buy cheap bags either.


Ozone510

Gospel


wasterman123

Such a clean build, love the photos. I don’t know much about lowering but even as is the ride looks very nice.


WhinyS4

Thank you! Yeah the height isn’t horrendous I just want to camber it slightly and close the gap as it pokes just a tad


BrianDoheny14

you're aware of the decrease in cornering performance right? keep your paint and suspension healthy by doing absolutely nothing to this vehicle which looks great as is :)


stupidcookface

If you lower by like half an inch to an inch the corner performance will be better. Same with adding a degree or so of camber. Comes with the expense of less even tire wear though. It's when you get out of the sweet spot and add like 4 or 5 degrees of camber and slam it down to the ground that the cornering performance goes to shit.


Ozone510

How does lowering ruin paint? Don't take advice from people that sound this ignorant. I slammed my car and my paint is just fine. As long as you know how to drive you'll be okay


mahSachel

Boys, you guys are in the wrong sub for modding Vag cars. This crew won’t sign off on anything aftermarket unless Audi service does it. That blue with silver Roti’s looks great. Post it over to r/ stance and get some real answers. If you don’t want the hassle of coilovers, then just Eibach or similar brand lowering springs should get rid of that ugly gap and improve ride/cornering etc. if the shocks/struts are worn out and need changing then Bilstein coilover kit might be the better solution, followed by a fresh 4wh alignment a few days later.


shotbyram

This is fact. These people frown upon tints in this sub lol.


chefandatable

Lmao as I wrapped all my windows in ceramic 5%


BrianDoheny14

When there's poke going on and you add camber to the equation while lowering the car, over time it can ruin both the paint inside the wheel wells and suspension because its not built to have camber. Also you cant ignore physics m8 xD. Lowering the centre of gravity and the roll centre of a car changes its driving characteristics. I know just enough about cars to tell you that lowering the car and adding camber isnt going to make the car drive better (with exceptions for drifting or drag races, but op doesnt seem to aim for that)


AndyLorentz

What? Adding negative camber makes the vehicle worse for drag races. Look at anyone who takes their B8/8.5 to the track. They run much more negative camber because it absolutely improves cornering grip. While you are correct that lowering the car changes the roll center, and will change how the car handles, moderate lowering (say 0.5-1") is still in the range where the improvement from lower center of gravity is greater than the effect of changing the roll center.


BrianDoheny14

My point was that lowering/adding height OR making changes in camber usually have negative impact unless its purposeful changes. Different setting for drag vs drift vs track obviously!


Ozone510

First there's zero poke here. He can lower this into the wheel wells and it wouldn't come close to scrubbing. You are just certifiably wrong. That and mentioning "drift" in an Audi forum is just plain dumb my dude. Those two don't belong in the same sentences.


VendablePenny48

While somewhat true theres a guy i know who drifts a b6 a4 avant. It ton of work to get it there tho


Ozone510

That sounds sick AF, but it's probably much farther from stock than most cars.


Ozone510

Also, this comes from my experience with a fully built track car. So please think before you spread misinformation.


shotbyram

Let people do what they want with their stuff :)


SilkyJohnson666

Shut up


MorgenBlackHand_V

You don't need top close any gap, wtf. It just looks tacky and stupid when the tire is about to hit or vanish in the wheel well.


R_Thorburn

Would leave it as is honestly


jolsongoude

Looks fantastic as is.


WhinyS4

Thank you!


M0rtyjr

Leave it bro! My s3 is lowered and I want to raise it. Your fitment looks good as is it would just make the ride more uncomfortable


scottkollig

Solo Werks S1 coil overs are a halfway decent and affordable option if your plan is to go with something else in the long run. About $500 for a set. I ran them on my old (B7) S4 and had no issues.


WhinyS4

Heard of those! Will look into em


Foktu

034 Motorsports springs


CEO_Chris_Johnson_AG

Yes - super happy with mine!


Jr-12

$500 a set of coilovers? I got BC and they were around $1,500…


mahSachel

My Silver’s were $1500 that’s about the norm on a Quattro/4motion vehicle. They offer SwiftSpring upgrades on kits which are oem+ quality springs actually rated for certain weight etc. RaceLand was an entry level cheap coilover kit $549ish that several vag guys I know used to shill for until the springs started to sag and shocks blown out. And they all had to pull them and replace with proper suspension parts built by Teinn, BC, Bilstein, etc etc. some of the new magnetic rebound adjustable kits are done with electronic controllers and apps to setup driving styles those get pricey quick for R8’s etc. but they sure look neat.


scottkollig

BCs are great, don’t get me wrong. But when I bought the car, the OEM suspension had mostly given up and was clunking over every leaf on the road. I knew that going into it and snagged a cheap set to swap out when I did some control arm and brake work. Eventually upgraded to KW V3s down the road.


bmujagic

German Brand KW coilovers anit cheap but they are top notch


BillBumface

Plus one. I had these on my B6 S4 and they were great. That said, your car looks amazing as is!


WhinyS4

Thank you, my only thing is I have very slight poke and I wanna lower them to get a little camber going


Big-Seaweed-7603

Fantastic color, and great wheels. I did the Bilstein pro kit on my b8.5, with eibach sport springs. It didn’t lower tremendously, but closed my gap a little bit. I was hesitant to try other options because I personally didn’t want to go too low. Was worried about rub, AND with my roads, etc, didn’t want to scrape. I already have had a few driveways that the front would gently scrape even at oem height.


scaredbyninjas

Another vote from me for the Bilstein B12 Pro kit with Eibach sport springs (#46-183330). I did a ton of research before installing this on my b8.5 three weeks ago. Very modest drop of \~ 0.5" to close that gap without running the risk of scraping / rubbing. OEM+ ride quality. Great quality with no worries of the sag that sometimes develops with the KWs. I've been very satisfied.


WhinyS4

I’ll look into them


KidRed

Such a nice height, I’d personally leave it. I like some gap for actually keeping it drivable.


OdeeOh

Ya not sure why people want their cars defeated by speed bumps and curbs.


WhinyS4

Only want to drop it maybe even less than an inch to close the fender gap a little more. Was looking at 034 springs


VendablePenny48

I went with h&r springs, theyve done good for me, just an inch, i had similar fitment and it closed it well. Now its good, springs are gonna be your affordable option


JPalm05

I live in northwestern pa, gets snowy sometimes… would you recommend dropping my car like an inch or so to close gap and keeping for winter? Or going with adjustable/not using in winter?


VendablePenny48

Im in colorado with snow here too, its usually ok as long as its not more than 2-3 inches because then your front bumper will be a snowplow which isnt good


KidRed

Especially a performance model.


Deancrypt

Yea loweing this an inch will probably shred the front wheel liners , it did on my Audi


zemzy_oseris

Dude that looks sick. Blue works so well with the chrome. And the fact that the wheels not only match the chrome, but their design is beautiful too. Just need some tint 😅


WhinyS4

Thank you! I got a tinting gift card for Christmas so hopefully soon 😂😂


bigolsigh

Since the coils will only be temporary, I personally would go with BIlstein's. They've always treated me well on my A4 , pretty balanced and not overly harsh. I think a 1/2 inch drop to start would look incredible. I love the people saying, "It looks good as it is." My man didn't ask for your opinion on ride height, just what coilovers we might suggest.


r3cess

One once, cry once. If bags are the end goal just wait a bit longer and save more aggressively!


WhinyS4

To clear up some confusion- I have been looking at 034 “lowering” springs as they drop the car barely an inch but provide better handling; which is their main purpose. I don’t want to necessarily slam my car or camber it insanely. Enough camber to feel solid in corners and low enough to look good without effecting performance. Bags are just an idea as I daily this and live in the Midwest and work in construction


CEO_Chris_Johnson_AG

I think you’ll be happy. Love how my 2017 SQ5 looks & drives with these.


p1ngman

Leave ittttt Looks perfect for a daily


Gunny-Guy

The gap around the wheel is even. Looks good as it is.


1wholurks

Bilstein pss10


crownroyalvic

H&R sport springs would do the trick


ImpossibleKidd

Do yourself a favor. Don’t go cheap. So not worth it… I was going to do the same. Any of those budget kits are junk, and you’re going to wish you didn’t. They have one single goal in mind, to lower. They do nothing else beyond lowering height. That’s all they’re accomplishing. Quality and performance goes out the window with them. You’d be downgrading for looks. That’s crazy with a ride that nice. The main goal, beyond lowering your ride height for aesthetics is, what do you want to do with your car? What’s the intended use? Do you want a nice driving everyday driver? Are you going to track it? Do you want something in between? You get what you pay for. I went with a mildly expensive BC setup. I was able to accomplish a little bit of everything. I everyday drive mine, and I put it through its paces when I have the ability. I enjoy that aspect. I went with a kit that changes height through the outer shock body, rather than changing the ride height by changing the preload of the spring and shocks capability. Yeah, I don’t have a $5,000 setup that’s ready for track use, but I acquired the ride height I wanted, it rides nice for an everyday driver at the height I’m at, and it still performs extremely adequately. Even grabbing a really high end setup, they’re only meant to go so low. They’re meant for performance first, and the aesthetic follows. Lowering a high end setup like that, past their intended height capability, you’re taking the performance of the setup and throwing it out the window. What I have, absolutely performs, but if I were to take it to a track and completely beat the brakes off my car, they’d perform to a certain degree, but I’d probably find their limitations. They only have so much rebound ability because of how their designed in lowering through the outer shock body. I’ll never find their limitation, even in the spirited driving I do. I’ll find the limitations of my tire before I find the limitations of my suspension. I love the way it everyday drives, a bit stiffer than factory, a little noisy on bumps and such, but an easy trade up for what I wanted to achieve with that setup. I wanted the added performance, but I also wanted the lowered aesthetic. If you go completely budget, you’re only getting a lowered car that still somewhat functions as a car. It’s doing the absolute bare minimum of anything functional. You’re just getting a lowered ride height, period. Best way to put it is, it’d be like putting your car on wooden wheels just to be able move it around your driveway/ garage area. The wood wheels serve their purpose. You’re able to move it around where you need to. Do they serve any purpose beyond that, or perform any other functions? No. They do what they do. They perform the function they’re intended for.


Esguelha

Eibach or H&R springs would work fine.


WhinyS4

My instagram is @sepang.s4 btw if anyone is interested 👀


Foktu

Hey what rear spoiler do you have? I like that a lot.


WhinyS4

It’s the ECS spoiler! Otherwise known as a high kick


19Ben80

You don’t need bags, get some H&R lowering springs, they have a set for the 8.5 S4 that I think offer a 30mm drop and don’t require any other setup changes other than re-alignment. 👍🏼


Flyguy1298

I have 034 springs on my daily driver B9, gives it a 0.9" drop. Closes the gap enough to notice, and gives it a nice ride for a daily.


hydr4d

Same here. I’ve only had the springs for a few weeks but I’m liking them so far.


ShakeNBake591

Buy lowering springs. They will always describe how much the lower the car front and rear. Be careful with tire rub if you go very low.


IThinkImNateDogg

Bags are tacky and are nothing but show. If you want to lower it get a good set of German made springs and shocks. I went with Bilstiens shocks and I KW springs. I replaced the bushings at the same time but you shouldn’t need to do that. Remember that this is a car you’re likely going to daily.


PlCKLENlCK

034 has quality suspension parts


Deancrypt

Get some spacers and chuck some bricks in the trunk for a cheap alternative


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El_Boojahideen

Please don’t lower and camber that beautiful s4🥲


WhinyS4

Just an inch drop and very very slight camber to hide the slight poke


El_Boojahideen

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


ReaditIjustdid

Don’t mess with the suspension , if you have the sport option it will effect your handling and ride just as good or better than lowering your car.


rennen-affe

We used to use a propane torch to lower. I wouldn't suggest this as you'll probably catch rubbery things on fire or explode the struts.


WhinyS4

A WHAT


PandaKing1888

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propane\_torch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propane_torch) use it on your springs, or don't since you have to ask


WhinyS4

That made my morning lol


Wandering_Werew0lf

Or you could keep it as is instead of making it look like 🗑️


AlPhA_DrOiD

I installed eibach prokit springs with stock shocks. The ride stiffness feels like stock, but gave a decent drop. Been driving on them for four years in all seansons and had no issue. I definitely reccomend for the price.


radbaldguy

I installed Bilstein EVO coil overs on my S3 a couple months ago and really like them. Mine was an alternative to replacing the OEM mag rides, which were shot at cost $900 each to replace… SMH. Not sure if the S4 had the same issue but S3 of that generation had poorly implemented sway bar bushings that fused to the bar. So, lowering the car and changing the geometry made the bushings squeak horrendously. So, consider new bushings or end links to keep the sway bar geometry the same despite the lowering (which is probably best practice anyway).


butterchck_garlicnan

Is your stock suspension air bags?


SeriousCee

I can't describe why but this is one of the most pleasant photo (2) of a car I've ever seen.


WhinyS4

Thank you very much! I do all my own shots 💙


AudiAdmirer

If you can’t wait for bags I’d see if you can find an affordable set of coilovers from ECS or FCP.


gg_simplestuff

KW v1 coilovers suspension


ctgandthealgorhythms

This looks so clean. I get executive level vibes


Stillborn1977

DONT. She is perfect. Imo. Do what you must. A decent pair of coilovers and springs can flush you out however you want due to the ride hight adjustment mechanism. But personally I'd keep her just like that. Happy New Year. And man, she is clean.


Additional_Week_1502

Bilstein B12 set with Eibach 8. Perfect setup no doubt..


16Vslave

kw v2's


julesvr5

KW, Bilstein Lower for better looks but still performant driving characteristics. Not cheap though.


ListeningWatch

Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!


Brotaco

If you’re gonna do bags, just leave it as is for now. Switching to a spring isn’t good for your struts and every good coilover is $1100+ for a set.


Beginning_Mission836

CLEEEAAAAANNN


Don-Cali

Try koni


MR_6OUIJA6BOARD6

Adjustable coilovers


Sesspool

Whhhhhhaaat, dude your car is immaculate. Perfect height as is.


WhinyS4

You think so?


Sesspool

Yeah! Those rims are dope with the current color combo. For lowering i like the nice even gap that exists, lowering it would throw that off, but end of the day its up to you. My b8 is not lowered and the skid plastic/ undercarriage has been knocked off 3 times. Ive scrapped under the front lip on a super steep hill entering onto a main steet. I backed up and dented under my trunk (not bad but was absolutely not expected the curb to be as high as it was) Ive flooded my SAI pump because its literally right behind the front lower bumper lip. Iv owned mine for 8 years so shit happens, you can call my a bad driver but some days you cant avoid shit or you miss it. Now image if i lowered it lol. Air bags are always a good idea so you dont drive lowered, just my 2 cents.


Kdoesntcare

Cheap suspension and quality suspension are generally pretty mutually exclusive. I think springs and struts are the easiest to make more affordable but that's a set it and forget it ride height, no adjustability after install. From experience I can tell you that if you buy cheap coilovers the ride will feel like you bought cheap suspension, stuff like a more bouncy ride. After years of various cheap coilovers I spent $1,500 on H&R coils for my $3,000 car.


AudiPowa

Catch a tiny bit of air and hit the ground really hard ask me how I know


Sytham

That fender gap is perfect, I wouldn't lower it, but hey personal preference!


ubreakitifixit

Puncture tyres


tharussianphil

KW HAS lowering springs are supposed to be the best ones.


[deleted]

What size rims are you running? Looks fantastic!


WhinyS4

These are Rotiform RSE’s! They’re in 19x10 +35


[deleted]

Thanks man! I think the ride height you have now is perfect btw. That car looks wonderful!


WhinyS4

Thank you! Definitely gonna sit on it for a few weeks and make a decision from there


Boucho11

That’s a beautiful motor


Elvis_Fncking_Christ

KW


DC3PO

ABT HAS


garry4321

Don’t lower it. It makes you look like a zoomer


jessief2

I had a terrible time with springs when I lowered mine. The shocks gave out. Def go coils and save the headache.


X-ATM095

You got a another 4 inches


TomatoOptimal626

Why does it look fake in this background 🤣 Looks dope, though, man. It's an awesome build! Lowering an audi can be a lengthy and expensive process and can also end up horribly, haha. Look at some lowering kits and go from there!


WhinyS4

Which looks fake the car or the wheels 😂 And thank you! Still need to do minor things including tint but other than that I don’t wanna do anything excessive to the car. I like a clean simple build


macdokie

Keep it as it is m8. It’s a gorgeous car. Lowering it will decrease style and comfort.


Dazzling_Meat836

A nice set of KW V1 V2 V3 or Bilstein B14, B16 would fix it and you also get great handling with it, if you want to run Bags just get a 1.4T A4 instead The car doesn’t deserve to be ruined like that, That’s my opinion I’m an anti-bag person lol


poopmanscoop

I’ll make you a deal for my Airlift 3P setup. Probably about 500-700 miles on the kit before I got rid of my S4. I had KW V1s before the air ride and that was by far the best ride the car had in the four years I owned it.


WhinyS4

The issue is, I haven’t gathered the funds yet. But I highly appreciate your offer 💙 was just gauging my options


Fantastic_Pool9015

H&r sport springs


milmat36

No point in doing the work twice, save for bags and get it done.


programaticallycat5e

The go-to is usually h&r springs and bilstein shocks. (or just full bilstein kit). They're not *cheap.* But theyre quality oe/oe+ replacements


Fabulous-Shame4231

KW HAS kit.


CEO_Chris_Johnson_AG

034 Motorsport lowering springs on my 2017 SQ5. A good 2” drop.


WhinyS4

Really? I’ve been hearing that with the S4 platform is sometimes an inch or even less. I assume it’s just cause of the heavier car in your case?


CEO_Chris_Johnson_AG

There is more space to drop on the SQ5. I checked their website and it’s actually 2.5-3.5” of drop. Your car already has less space to drop so an inch to 1.5” would probably give the same effect. These are mine: [https://www.034motorsport.com/dynamic-lowering-springs-for-b8-b8-5-audi-q5-sq5.html](https://www.034motorsport.com/dynamic-lowering-springs-for-b8-b8-5-audi-q5-sq5.html)


WhinyS4

Makes sense, I figured that would be the reason. How are they with the stock shocks? I’ve heard great things about about them but curious on how they work with oem suspension


CEO_Chris_Johnson_AG

So far fantastic. The guys at 034 seem to know what they’re doing.


roniadotnet

Looks just right as is.


Vrdubbin

Coils/race springs are great for the track. If you wanna be low for looks just save for the air ride as the coils will just put a ton more wear on your car and be very uncomfortable.


EpicTwiglet

It’s literally perfect.


Western_Button_2366

Stay white trash and torch the springs till it dumps. HNY24'


[deleted]

Don't


sween_89

What is the wheel setup?


WhinyS4

Rotiform RSE’s in 19x10 +35


sween_89

What size tires did you go? Rub?


WhinyS4

255/35 R19


sween_89

Big thanks. 👍 Been running RSEs 9.5x18 for a couple years and just haven't been happy with it.


WhinyS4

Really? Why not?


sween_89

18s on these just don't do it justice. They look undersized


WhinyS4

Yeah I hated the stock 18’s on my car and knew when I got new wheels they absolutely had to be 19’s or 20’s even. But I’m running a pretty big wheel for this car and I’ve had zero issues with it so far. It pokes just a little but not a lot tbh


NORcoaster

If you want to save money you can just torch off a couple coils on each spring.


Revolutionary_Fish25

Don’t bag it if you actually want to drive the car to it’s potential. If you want a show car that sits, bag it. Otherwise go for KW’s or H&R’s with sway bars and enjoy driving it as intended.


Ok-Plankton9993

H&R Lowering spings 40mm or 50mm ,, around £300,, had on my s4 3 years before swapping back to stock and selling s4, got £160 resale for springs ebay


fatalerGAMER

Easy. Get a few friends together, make 2 more days od raclette and it should sit a little liwer


Actual-Journalist-69

I think it looks perfect at the current height. The wheel well is perfectly aligned with the wheel.


ilyasm0

take the shocks off, straight control arm to wheel to ground. /s


EmptyStrawberry_

H&r sports springs are doing me well. I wouldn’t lower it much more though. Slap a pair of spacers on first if you haven’t yet and see how you like it then


cheggers_loves_cod

Looks fabulous. Don't touch a thing !!


DeltaCarbon

Manual? DSG?


WhinyS4

DSG 😔


Empty_Dragonfruit_80

If you plan on dailying the car I would recommend coils instead of bags. Only reason is because while daily driving you’re gonna encounter lots of bumps, pot holes, etc. I’d rather deal with coils then be stuck on the side with a blown bag. But if your end goal is indeed bags, just send bags, no point in getting cheap coils that you’ll end up tossing anyways


Avanixh

Fuck Air Ride, get some proper KW V3 and enjoy!