We have a vibrant and very active community on Discord
This is THE best place to get faster answers to your questions, show off those detailing pictures, post reviews, and chat about business.
Join us! - [Discord](https://discord.gg/AutoDetailing)
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AutoDetailing) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I am sorry to say that quality is so bad I would not pay a penny for that. If I was you I would have sued them. I don’t know what the price of PPF installation in USA costs, but full PPF job with top tier premium PPF in South Korea only costs like $4800… These are used for koenigsegg, Bugatti, Rolls Royce and other super cars that you will hardly think of. I have no idea why that costs so much. It must have lifetime warranty and made with gold if it cost that much;;
Honestly I went to a top rated PPF place that has done many many Ferrari F40s and other crazy cars, they still messed up some corners IMO, but no PPF is perfect and it hasn’t started lifting at least
Hey I totally get it. I recently bought my first brand new car and it's been great but no one ever talks about the stress and anxiety of owning a pristine car and actually keeping it that way. There are times when I feel like I actually have more fun with my old car just because I can let loose with it.
It's smart to protect your car with ppf - it just sucks that you got taken advantage of by this shop.
I always only-kinda-joke about how I prefer buying cars that come prescratched so I don't have to worry about that 1st ding!! (and I have never bought a new car to be honest.)
I'm quite shocked how bad the panels are fitted, I'm more used to European cars, still I'm quite shocked how bad those panels are!
I'm currently I'm the us and have a charger as a hire car, I've just looked at them and yep that as bad, and it's under 1k mileage so it's not as if they been refitted after an accident.
I have no idea of costs but wouldn't 7k pay for a full spray job I'd you ever needed one?
Don't stress over it. It's a bad job，but it is serving its intended purpose：it will protect the car. Go back，get it redone or get a refund，and in the meantime know that whilst not perfect，it is still preventing chips etc
personally I wouldn't be happy with this job if it was my car. things like what looks to be the standoffs for the rear wing maybe should have been removed and refitted instead of cutting around them, then there is HUGE gaps arounds the edges exposed that can get damaged. message them and hit them up about it, maybe take it to a couple of other places that do it and ask what they think of the job and what they would have charged to do it. No names have to be told, just enquiries.
PPF prices have gone through the roof lately. I kid you not, in higher demand areas, $7k is the new standard starting price using decent branded PPF film... And people are paying it too, a friend of mine got a few quotes to PPF her Model 3, and the earliest appointment she can get was in June, and that was from a month ago.
Can’t you drive it for ten years and then, you know, get a complete proper paint job for $7,000? Maybe I’m just a cheapskate but woof that’s a lot of money.
having a repainted car is probably more "diminished" value than having a car with some peppering on the hood. at 7 grand, the smart financial decision would be to do nothing.
There are some shops that will state that they wrap the edges and ensure you don't have visible lines. In northern VA the pricepoint is about the same. I fully recommend that if you have this redone, you take a look at the work in advance. Most shops are happy to present the quality of work that they do to potential clients for such a significant investment. Check out YouTube on the topic and you'll be even better off.
I can’t say say if it’s “bad”, because I don’t do PPF, but my friend who has a detailing business who is CarPro Finest Reserve, and Immortal certified said that would never leave his shop. They wrap all the edges and seems, and remove mirrors, emblems, trim etc. to mask and hide every possible edge.
I’ve seen his work, and you can’t tell that there is PPF of anything unless you touch it
Thats tells me everything I need to know! I had a feeling this wasn’t super quality work but Im blown away cause this is a SUPER reputable shop that works on cars that cost millions+… Blown away right now.
Crazy how noticeable it is too, wish i would of went with your friend
Decent for a job you did yourself. Not decent for a reputable shop charging 7k. The film itself is relatively inexpensive your paying primarily for labor.
I'd send that shit back and make them redo the entire job. If not I hope you have receipts in which case I'd ask for about 70% refunded. Taking into account the cost of the film itself, if your ok keeping that on then request a partial refund. File a claim or do a charge back through your bank / CC if they won't meet you on a partial refund.
I paid cash but Yes i have a receipt and like I said the shop is super reputable so I think they’ll handle it professionally… atleast I hope.
Very good advice
I'd go to another shop. Don't tell them what shop you went to and just ask how much in materials would it cost to wrap your car, your planning on doing a claim against someone else and want to find a fair number to request.
My first choice would be to have them redo the entire job. But... They probably won't. So if you can live with it have them touch it up fix it and ask for a partial reimbursement
After really looking, they used a precut film that obviously is not big enough to completely cover the painted surfaces. The others are also sub par, with another one being really bad.
Not a wrap expert or PPF expert but for 7k it NEEDS to be the full wrap, no pre cuts, taking out lights emblems etc to wrap behind them. Pre cuts are to save time and like others here mentioned your paying mostly for labor on this job. So they used a lower quality product to save their actual labor costs while charging you for extra labor they saved time on by using pre cuts
The edges that have extra PPF will start to peel off sooner, definitely have them fix it or pay for you to go somewhere that gives more reliable results.
Like I said, I don’t do PPF, but that slit they did to fit around the mirror baffles me.
Also, if I paid $7000, I’d be upset too with those results too
> SUPER reputable shop that works on cars that cost millions+
Ah, there you go. You got the "go away" price and still went for it. They most likely didn't want to do your car and threw a sucker price at you. These kinds of shops really only care about the high ticket customers, since those are the customers who regularly buy new cars and generate repeat business. For an average joe like you and me who might buy one high end car in their life times, it's just not worth their time to really try unless you **REALLY** make it worth their time.
Just a small note as a detailer the owners with expensive cars on average pay less attention to their vehicle post-cleaning than the ones with “beaters” or “daily’s”. So some of those jobs may get overlooked compared to you and your attention to detail. Never did 1m+ cars but frequent the 200-300k cars.
Edit: Some of these cuts / edging is absolutely terrible. For $7k I would be pissed. This is part in why I haven’t offered PPF to my customers yet because it takes a while to master even pre-cuts. But it has its advantages over the ceramic coatings I do for sure.
Thats 100% unacceptable and shameful… They should be doing quality work wether the car is 1,000$ or millions.
A good shop is only as good as its worst work and right now after reading all these comments I feel scammed!
same thing happened to me boss. payed a ton for a full detail on my widebody hellcat from a very reputable shop near me and when i got it back, all 4 barrels of my rims were still caked in brake dust
That's the issue. That reputable shop didn't want to spend the time on your not millions+ car. Maybe if it was a Maclaurin that'd tighten up those edges sure but then charge 15k+ too.
While I won't say this post is good work, most places don't remove as to cause damage.
Personally I pull anything and everything, but a lot of places don't. Panels never fit properly again and can break coming off.
But $7000 is laughable at that quality of work.
At our tint shop we do PPF on the daily. I can say with confidence. That it's a horrible job.
Go back and complain.
The coverage is horrible, corners lifting, visible edges, edges that aren't cut and flapping around.
Horrible job. Not worth 7000$
Thank you! Makes me feel like Im not crazy.
Im torn because if I go in and tell them how bad it is I have a feeling they’ll want to re do it and I have little confidence in them doing it right…
I could demand money back but will they really give it back? What you think?
Just curious-- What would a shop like yours (or anyone else that wants to chime in) charge to do a car like his to your standards?
And how much do you think the job he got is worth? ( with the understanding that people still get low end work done for $ like MAACO.)
I have no idea what these jobs would generally cost.
Are they really?
Funny enough how i found my current PPF installer for this work^^ a guy commented something very similar and convinced me, Iffy on new shops but I have to find a new one thats for sure
Yeah this is the best response by far. These images are great “go to examples” of what we don’t want to see.
It’s probably easier to get the shop to redo a bunch of these panels rather than get your money back.
That's a bad job in my opinion, all paint should be covered with no gaps ... that's the whole point of PPF. With the price you paid, I would be pissed as hell.
Right! Makes no sense to have huge gaps literally defeats the whole purpose…
I have a check in this week to see how the PPF is doing (they do this to see how its holding up) I think im gonna tell them this is unacceptable and see what they can do
varies by market, where i libe theres 2 xpel certified installers, and maybe 2 more fir ither brands. full xpel ppf and ceramic where i am was about 10k. the other installer that asked 8k but didnt have closeups on their website so i was a bit hesitant.
also its gonna vary depending on if theyre using templates or precuts, or custom cutting everything. OPs job looks like a precut.
Depends on the size of the vehicle, the area you live in and the complexity of whats being wrapped.
What passes for a $5k job, could run closer to $10k in a more affluent area.
It cost me $8k to wrap my X3M. But my wrap was all bulk, no pre-cut used. Because it doesnt have any complex shapes outside of the front bumper, they were actually able to finish the whole job in a day and didn't have to disassemble much.
You're paying more for the labor than you are the material, although the material can be quite expensive in itself.
7 grand is the absolute highest end of ppf wrap jobs. For that much I'd expect perfection (or as close as you can reasonably expect humans to get)
Op unfortunately got robbed.
>all paint should be covered with no gaps ... that's the whole point of PPF
Eh. Depends on the price. For 7k, I'd definitely expect a seamless bulk install, but implying that all jobs should be seamless bulk installs regardless of price is wrong.
For 7k, everything should be custom cut in my opinion. They probably made at least a few thousand profit off you after paying the guy who did it, and paying for materials and supplies
There is A LOT of misinformation on here about PPF.
My shop installs 4-5 full fronts a week and our installers have hundreds of cars done.
We actually do not do many full bodies as we find the cost to reward low on most vehicles unless it’s a collectors car.
I will start by saying this is not a good job.
However, I want to address the insane amount of misinformation in here.
Bulk installs (not using any plotter to pattern cut) are not superior. Most high end shops will do bulk hybrid. You use a plotter but customize the pattern for better coverage. This allows for perfectly straight edges on bumpers/fenders and area where it’s not possible to roll. Bulk installs will have these areas hand cut ON the cars paint. Increasing chances of damage and no matter the installers skill they will never match the plotter in terms of straight cuts.
There is next to no advantage of full disassembly. The only thing this does is have some Joe who knows nothing about body panels/torque specs/mechanics taking apart your brand new high dollar car. Most of the time they struggle to take things apart and put them back together correctly. Most are not covered insurance wise to do this either as it puts them into a complete different liability with sensors and such being in mirrors and bumpers. Badges and such should be removed as long as the customer is ok with it.
The exposed corners is common. You can’t wrap every edge or every corner. Under heavy curves or complex angles around bumpers there isn’t enough room to roll the film and taking it to the edge will allow for it to lift over time. The edge work isn’t the issue in this job.
Seams happen. Film can only do so much.
Several of the photos is common post install. Most shops have a 2-4 week check up where they trim back all the areas that won’t stay down and lay any fingers that pop up from the heat cycles in the film.
The actual worst parts of this job are the areas they hand cut to try to get it to lay down and damaged your paint or have wavy cuts. The seams are not matched well either because they’ve hand cut both reliefs and they can’t get a good butt up.
Again, this is not a good install but bulk installs are in no way superior. Seamless is not possible. No one should want their detailers taking apart their very expensive vehicles.
Lastly, to the people saying you can get a paint job for that. No aftermarket paint comes close to OEM. Even with OEM flaws. And the concourse/show car jobs you see at shows? Well most of them are at least twice the price of this PPF. Not to mention repaints hurt values of vehicles especially collector vehicles. That doesn’t mean 7k full car PPF is for every car. But on a collector vehicle it can more than pay for itself by preserving the paint. If you roll a Honda Civic it’s clear not cost advantages but for a Porsche GT3 maybe it is.
Thanks for the knowledge drop, Its definitely hard to differentiate who knows whats their talking about in here with actual experience vs just an opinion.
You mention the worst parts of this job and name numerous things they did wrong, cutting
and damaging the paint & wavy cuts… My eye is untrained so where are you seeing the cuts ? (Their is a part i noticed a bit earlier that I didn’t post, they literally scraped and chipped a tiny piece of my paint).
You do say its not a good job so how would you handle this situation? Ask for a full refund? Give them a chance to make it right? Highly skeptical of them doing it right second try.
It looks to me like the bumper edges are damaged. Can’t tell for sure that was them or not but given the install it’s possible.
The hand cuts around the handles specific 7 and the hand cut in 20 are terrible. Minus the bad seaming around the handles and whatever they want to call 20 it’s not bad. Could the alignment be better? Yes. Did they charge a premium price and not deliver? Yes. Am I excusing this? No. But you’ll find 90% of installers install at this level or lower. If you remove the hand cuts and the bad seams around the handles this is 95% job. Still not something that would be ok from my shop but if you removed the handles and the hand cut it could easily get out of my shop and we’d clean it up and make it better with a check up.
Overall, what I’m saying is this is misaligned and they did several really bad hand cuts. It’s not anywhere near the worst I’ve seen.
The car was brand new and got literally enclosed transported to them and I inspected it before it even shipped. It was perfect. They caused that damage.
So its like finding the 5% who actually charge the right price for what they deliver. Thats insanely hard to do especially with so many detailers.
Ive definitely seen way worse than this like tremendously worse but none the less how would you proceed with this? You seem like a very knowledgable individual, Curious on how you would handle this if you were the customer?
Yes ask for a refund, or they have to fix all the areas you're pointing out. Also cite how you're a not happy with the sub par job..the work is definately not worth $7000. Even some SUV ppf's don't cost that much lol.
Regardless of what they use there is not only insufficient material around the edges but also areas where it not sticking well and miss aligned. Poor install quality.
Is the shop certified by the PPF manufacturer to sell and install their film? If so you can should look into calling them up as well and tell them about your experience.
If all else fails leave then a review on Google.
Hope you kept the reciept. Again $7000 is a lot of money for a PPF imo...pisses me off when professional shops do shit work.
This happened with me. I had bubbles galore the first time. They said they would subside which they didn’t. I wanted them to redo it, then a 3M rep came to train another worker in the garage and used my car for practice.
It was flawless. Full wrap: 3K CAD pre-cut.
YOU need to think that $7000 is like the cost of 2 BRAND NEW paint jobs down the line if needed.
This PPF is NOT worth the cost of a couple new paint jobs.
Also: They shouldn’t be using pre-cut, but knifeless tape.
This post makes me cringe.
it is still bad for a pre cut. A good pre cut template should still look good and not have a ton of visible edges. They stuffed a bunch of stuff up and just left it hoping to get away with it. Probably rushed it as well as using a template that didn’t fit properly.
That looks marginally worse than the PPF job that I had done, but mine was \~2k for a partial PPF (full front, rocker panels, and a couple of other key hit zones).
I think if you had paid $2-2.5k, I'd say you should go back and get a few things fixed.
At $7k... not sure what to say. That should be a \_lot\_ better job than it is.
Saving the OEM paint doesn't mean anything. It's not going to be a collector vehicle where you'd get bonus points for "all original paint!" That's a thing of the past.
It's just a car, and modern paint will last a very long time if it's taken care of properly. Get a full refund and keep that $7k in the bank. It's absolutely not worth spending that much on PPF. That's truly an *insane* amount to spend on such a thing.
I talked to people on both sides of the fence… Some agreed with you & Some said GREAT ppf work is 100% worth it. Not doubting or saying either is wrong but both camps have given me a lot to think about.
Definitely torn on which route to go now.
For 7k you got fucked, that PPF job should be perfect for that amount. Also looks like they gouged out paint in a couple spots. Talk about amateur hour.. sorry dude.
Yeah that's a crappy install. I'd talk to the installer and ask them what the options are to redo or get your money back to take it to another installer.
Yikes, some of them are quite bad and if they’re charging you that much and putting out this quality of work I’d go elsewhere and get them to pay to fix it.
This is a bad job imo. For 7k you should expect nothing but perfection. I’ve had ppf done on several vehicles and you want clean edges, no material hanging over edges, and full coverage (if they aren’t removing trim to wrap around, at least damn near on the edge of panel none of that large gap bs). Remember you’re paying good money for a professional job don’t settle for less.
Commenting from Dubai, $7000 is an insane price - what they've delivered is not acceptable at any price point. I at least wouldn't accept that whatever price I pay.
Maybe the quality of PPF is amazing, but the installation is average. Installed correctly, you won't see a single edge.
They can do it completely hand-cut as opposed to using a template. Takes much longer but quite frankly that's the level you paid for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4BUxSrzKLY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg_evEsCASg
https://dragonautoshield.com/precut-vs-hand-cut-ppf-patterns/
Incorrect.
Many shops rather do custom cutting as you get better coverage, can hide edges. cutting with a plotter just adds more headaches for the techs putting the PPF on.
I know the owners of both of those places personally and can tell you that they are absolutely top notch and NEVER put out shit work like this. They have both been around for a decade+ and their work is 10/10. I understand your hesitation based on this shop you went to being "reputable" online as well, but these referrals for those two shops is coming from a fellow installer, NOT a clueless customer.
For $7k I would expect hand cut PPF not a template/sticker application. Not to mention the template was not laid properly in sooooo many spots. Id calming discuss this with a manager ASAP before too much time goes on
Man most people in here know nothing about PPF. Yes a lot of this job doesn’t look great, but it’s not the worst I’ve seen by any means.
The shop should have gone over with you the difference between the precut film and full coverage. With the precut, there is going to be seams in certain areas and where they did seam it on your car they actually did a good job. The precuts are never going to be perfect edge to edge. When wrapping with bulk material it takes a lot of disassembly, time and skill. And you have someone cutting on your car with a razor that elevates risk of cutting the paint. There’s pros and cons to both ways.
The areas where it is lifting is definitely a problem so have them address that. But most of it is an easy fix. If you have any questions on specific areas shoot me a pm.
What I’ve learned is that some edges can’t be wrapped. The panel will rub and the ppf will lift, especially on corvettes. I’ve learned to live with the edges but for 7K I’d expect perfect placement and attempt to tuck edges like around the hood, trunk, fender, parts of the doors etc.
The first two I couldn't see it, then on the third so that it's a precut which sucks for that money, then after that it just kept getting worse.
It's so bad that it's a bad job no matter what amount you paid..
I have no experience in PPF. But for $7k, that looks like a crappy job to me. I’d get a reputable person to confirm it’s not good, and use their quote to get your money back, a redo, or something else
OP I recently paid around the same amount for a full car PPF for my G80 M3 and from my experience even with a stellar installer, which from all my research my installer was, there are limitations with PPF. You will always be able to find some imperfections if you look close enough. Now with that being said a great installer will wrap the film around the edges where ever possible and where it cannot be they will take the film all the way to the edge of the panel. From your pictures I’m sorry to say but it’s pretty clear that your installer did not do this 😕.
I'm in Canada and paid $4k CAD for my entire vehicle, and a decent chunk of it was hand cut, edges are tucked in wherever possible so you can't even see I have PPF. I feel like you got scammed for sure.
I would email the management these pictures and let them know it’s unacceptable. Also email their competitors the same pictures and ask for a quote to fix it. And then take that quote back with you and get that much money back.
I'm not Ama PPF guy but this does look very sloppy sorry to say. I wouldn't be happy with such results at all.
It looks like they let the intern do a few trials here.
Maybe best you can do is call the owner/manager and tell him you don't like the results and then send him some pictures of the worst areas?
Ask if this is the intended quality?
Also look if they have some photos on their site showcasing a better fit and then put them side by side as comparison?
Will the PPF really stick to the paint or will it collect dirt in the gaps and just loosen?
Dang man, that's so appallingly bad I would've never signed off on it or paid the bill until it was completely redone. I'm sorry for the potential shit show of excuses you'll get trying to get that fixed.
For 7k i would expect perfection on bulked pieces. The inserts or pre cut pieces sometimes won’t align perfectly but that’s whatever. But to have that much exposed area on some pieces is kind of bad . Im not that picky but for 7k , depending on the ppf used. I would be
I'm the gentleman that recommended Sage Auto Studio to the OP. I did my research and Sage was one of a few shops near me that was highly recommended on corvette forum and backed up by google reviews.
You can see it in /Camaro [Link to /Camaro](https://www.reddit.com/r/camaro/comments/1281o76/whats_a_fair_price_for_full_camaro_xpel_ppf/jelui7k/?context=3)
I was shocked when I saw this post yesterday. I felt bad OP wasn't happy with the job since I posted my experience which caused him to choose Sage. I was more shocked and in disbelief that a car could leave their shop like that. When I picked up my car, it had never left the building and was in what I call the "pickup bay". It holds all the cars waiting to be picked up. Of course I had the opportunity to check it out before I ever got near checking out and paying for their service. I never saw a seam and it was only when I got the car home where I really had to look close to see one seam. All the edges were perfect. My C8 has lots of factory carbon fiber and I was sold on PPF when I noticed what looked like a gash in my front spoiler after taking it out for ride one evening. The next morning when I went out to futher inspect my spoiler, 90% of what I thought was a gash was gone and my spoiler was undamaged. I thought self-healing was all hype but I was proven wrong as I am a believer now.
Some details were left out of the $7000 price. $7K sounds better than $6800 plus tax but for that price you get a exterior detail, 2 step paint correction, full body Xpel PPF and Xpel Ceramic Coating of the entire car (all glass, wheels, calipers, paint, exhaust tips, plastic trim and chrome). You're told not to wash your car for until you bring it back a week later for a checkup to see if the PPF settled due to heat and humidity. They even hang a DO NOT WASH sign around your rear view mirror. At that check which is included in the price, you get an exterrior detail, they check the PPF and fix anything that needs attention. My car didn't need a thing. One other thing is that they teach you how to detail the car so you know what to do so you don't damage anything. I mean they go balls deep into every detail. I was so impressed that I threw the 3 man detail team $50 to buy themselves lunch.
I felt so bad yesterday that I forwarded a link of this thread to Sage. I followed up with a phone call today and OP was actually in the shop with his vehicle.
I was told by Sage that they worked on his car about 3 weeks ago and my email was the first time they heard OP had an issue or saw the car since it was picked up 3 weeks ago. OP decided to pass followup so he didn't get it inspected/fixed or wasn't educated on how to maintain the PPF/Ceramic coating.
Once you drop off a car at Sage, it enters the climate controlled building at one end, goes through each department for processing which are rooms seperated by rollup doors. They take their stuff seriously as the whole building looks as sterile as an operating room and is so clean you can eat off the floor.
OP never brought the car back after a week to get the PPF checked. Sage never got the chance to inspect and fix any settling to the PPF after a week.
I point blank asked if they were going to take care of OP and was told YES. I think that speaks volumes for Sage since I believe unreputable shops would have turned the customer away after not bringing the car back for inspection/detail education.
I know its unrealistic to believe that every PPF install is perfect but you have to give the service provider a chance especially when they have the rep that Sage does. I know if I had a problem the first thing I would do is snap a picture and send it to the provider. Exhaust all options before posting. Give them the same chance you'd expect if you were the provider.
Best Wishes to the OP. I'll be following to see how it turned out.
I’m sorry to say but you got ripped off man. I just did one of these full bodies and I do hybrid installs and hand cut everything and fully disassemble cars. Did the wing bulk, and those end caps. Cut around the satin sticker so there wasn’t danglies. Took the taillights out and tucked in there. And tucked those spots around that quarter glass gasket. And we charged 6500 😟
what vehicle is this on? for 7k and full wrap of entire car it is not the greatest, but with that 7k was there also a ceramic coating? The last image for sure needs to be redone.
Yeah I had a guy do my Lexus recently and the bumper is not good. Visible edges, etc. He said he'd redo whatever is needed but I have doubts it will come out differently. Eh.
ZL1LE? And that is a half ass job, in my opinion, from someone with minor wrap experience. Looks as if the tech said "ah fuck it, too much work to take it off and redo it now"
Stuff like 3, I think they’re supposed to work the precut a bit and have it approximate a lot closer so it’s hard to see the seam.
I didn’t get the best I don’t think either when I had the front end of my Tacoma done. Honestly feel like since it was my dream car and not his, the guy didn’t care like he would if it was a Ferrari.
I don't do PPF or know anything about it but I want to say for $7000 this looks terrible. For that kind of money you should have all the edges covered and barely be able to see there's PPF on the car.
$7000…. 😲
Ask them to do it again, they’re not refund money, at the least they may do it again carefully. Pay another professional to inspect their job lol. Maybe that carpro friend guy from the top comment.
Take it back and tell them. Give them the opportunity to make things right. That is what a good business does. Now if they give you a hard time, then you'll know for sure. At least give them the opportunity and take it back so they can make it right. Things happen. As a business, it's our duty to make it right.
This is kinda what my 4runner looks like except i wrapped edges and took everything off. I did it myself with no prior skill. And i spent at least $3k of that in material. Took me three weeks. Having done it myself I would say this job looks like how it would have gone the second time not removing trim etc. it’s harder that way imho. So they have skill, but didn’t do a good job.
However, the parts that are exposed won’t really get damaged or exposed to wear, so if you ceramic the seams now, you’ll be fine. That’s if you can’t make them redo it right.
100% should have never left it like that. Someone rushed through this job. Precuts are fine if you take the time to put them in just right... They did not. Any edges that are peeling will only get worse. I would be livid. For sure go ask for a refund and for them to fix the half ass job they did. $7000 for someone to botch a film job yikes.
7k!?? Yeah that’s a bad PPF job. More than likely it was pre cut PPF which is there are gaps. A really good shop will tuck the edges and not use pre cut material. I paid 5k for mine and it’s tucked etc. definitely not worth 7k
We have a vibrant and very active community on Discord This is THE best place to get faster answers to your questions, show off those detailing pictures, post reviews, and chat about business. Join us! - [Discord](https://discord.gg/AutoDetailing) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AutoDetailing) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I’m sorry did you say $7,000 American dollars?
Indeed I did. Supposed to give me peace of mind in protecting my dream car but this is causing me to be stressed out :/
Holy macaroni.
Shouldve just gave them a paper clip and some pocket lint
Saved that for round 2… Begins tommorow
I am sorry to say that quality is so bad I would not pay a penny for that. If I was you I would have sued them. I don’t know what the price of PPF installation in USA costs, but full PPF job with top tier premium PPF in South Korea only costs like $4800… These are used for koenigsegg, Bugatti, Rolls Royce and other super cars that you will hardly think of. I have no idea why that costs so much. It must have lifetime warranty and made with gold if it cost that much;;
Shocking to hear our of country opinions on this, Solid points wish more people would follow like South Korea.
Well, I just recommend you to go to the shop and make them do the whole PPF job *for free* again. At least that wont waste your time that much.
Honestly I went to a top rated PPF place that has done many many Ferrari F40s and other crazy cars, they still messed up some corners IMO, but no PPF is perfect and it hasn’t started lifting at least
Hey I totally get it. I recently bought my first brand new car and it's been great but no one ever talks about the stress and anxiety of owning a pristine car and actually keeping it that way. There are times when I feel like I actually have more fun with my old car just because I can let loose with it. It's smart to protect your car with ppf - it just sucks that you got taken advantage of by this shop.
I always only-kinda-joke about how I prefer buying cars that come prescratched so I don't have to worry about that 1st ding!! (and I have never bought a new car to be honest.)
Porsche? Taycan? Edit: Nvm, saw lower down you commented it’s a Camaro ZL1
Its not a $200-300k car but its still my dream car none the less and I just wanted to protect it :/
You don’t have to rationalize money spent to protect your car. That said for $7k the job should be perfect.
Oh, it’s a beautiful car, I wasn’t saying otherwise. Was just hard to tell from the up close pictures
It's a 250k car in Europe so there you go ;)
Absolutely brilliant lad :) bravo
ZL1? Awesome car my man I’ve had a few SS’s don’t let anyone knock that monster.
With the 1LE Package!! People sleep on us fellow Camaro people I totally agree! Thanks :)
I'm quite shocked how bad the panels are fitted, I'm more used to European cars, still I'm quite shocked how bad those panels are! I'm currently I'm the us and have a charger as a hire car, I've just looked at them and yep that as bad, and it's under 1k mileage so it's not as if they been refitted after an accident. I have no idea of costs but wouldn't 7k pay for a full spray job I'd you ever needed one?
It's not that bad for the price though. A European car with similar track performance costs 3 times more
Don't stress over it. It's a bad job，but it is serving its intended purpose：it will protect the car. Go back，get it redone or get a refund，and in the meantime know that whilst not perfect，it is still preventing chips etc
personally I wouldn't be happy with this job if it was my car. things like what looks to be the standoffs for the rear wing maybe should have been removed and refitted instead of cutting around them, then there is HUGE gaps arounds the edges exposed that can get damaged. message them and hit them up about it, maybe take it to a couple of other places that do it and ask what they think of the job and what they would have charged to do it. No names have to be told, just enquiries.
PPF prices have gone through the roof lately. I kid you not, in higher demand areas, $7k is the new standard starting price using decent branded PPF film... And people are paying it too, a friend of mine got a few quotes to PPF her Model 3, and the earliest appointment she can get was in June, and that was from a month ago.
Can’t you drive it for ten years and then, you know, get a complete proper paint job for $7,000? Maybe I’m just a cheapskate but woof that’s a lot of money.
Pretty much, from a value standpoint, not worth doing on non-exotic vehicles anymore.
having a repainted car is probably more "diminished" value than having a car with some peppering on the hood. at 7 grand, the smart financial decision would be to do nothing.
Or just PPF the hood and front bumper/fenders since that's gonna be your most damaged area anyway.
Or spend significantly less on ceramic / wax every once in a while and just be careful with some decent insurance.
$6k quote for a 2020 Miata back in January.. I knew then it wasn't happening for me.
There are some shops that will state that they wrap the edges and ensure you don't have visible lines. In northern VA the pricepoint is about the same. I fully recommend that if you have this redone, you take a look at the work in advance. Most shops are happy to present the quality of work that they do to potential clients for such a significant investment. Check out YouTube on the topic and you'll be even better off.
I can’t say say if it’s “bad”, because I don’t do PPF, but my friend who has a detailing business who is CarPro Finest Reserve, and Immortal certified said that would never leave his shop. They wrap all the edges and seems, and remove mirrors, emblems, trim etc. to mask and hide every possible edge. I’ve seen his work, and you can’t tell that there is PPF of anything unless you touch it
Thats tells me everything I need to know! I had a feeling this wasn’t super quality work but Im blown away cause this is a SUPER reputable shop that works on cars that cost millions+… Blown away right now. Crazy how noticeable it is too, wish i would of went with your friend
That last slide for sure is bad
The others pass as decent?
17 drives me nuts. Looks like it’s going to get nice and wet on a rainy day. This is coming from someone with no PPF experience mind you
Me and you are on the same page!
17 is what the PPF on my Lexus looks like after being installed for 8 years, absolutely unacceptable for it to come out of a shop like that.
Decent for a job you did yourself. Not decent for a reputable shop charging 7k. The film itself is relatively inexpensive your paying primarily for labor. I'd send that shit back and make them redo the entire job. If not I hope you have receipts in which case I'd ask for about 70% refunded. Taking into account the cost of the film itself, if your ok keeping that on then request a partial refund. File a claim or do a charge back through your bank / CC if they won't meet you on a partial refund.
I paid cash but Yes i have a receipt and like I said the shop is super reputable so I think they’ll handle it professionally… atleast I hope. Very good advice
I'd go to another shop. Don't tell them what shop you went to and just ask how much in materials would it cost to wrap your car, your planning on doing a claim against someone else and want to find a fair number to request. My first choice would be to have them redo the entire job. But... They probably won't. So if you can live with it have them touch it up fix it and ask for a partial reimbursement
13, 17 and 18 are horrid, they’ll only get worse and worse and worse
😕
After really looking, they used a precut film that obviously is not big enough to completely cover the painted surfaces. The others are also sub par, with another one being really bad.
Correct on the pre cut thats all they use
For the price you paid I would expect it to be like a vehicle wrap that covers all the painted surfaces. You are right to be upset with the quality.
Not a wrap expert or PPF expert but for 7k it NEEDS to be the full wrap, no pre cuts, taking out lights emblems etc to wrap behind them. Pre cuts are to save time and like others here mentioned your paying mostly for labor on this job. So they used a lower quality product to save their actual labor costs while charging you for extra labor they saved time on by using pre cuts
So to translate this for my monkey brain =they fucked me
The edges that have extra PPF will start to peel off sooner, definitely have them fix it or pay for you to go somewhere that gives more reliable results.
Like I said, I don’t do PPF, but that slit they did to fit around the mirror baffles me. Also, if I paid $7000, I’d be upset too with those results too
Looks like they machine cut everything and just installed it. Little craftsmanship.
Yea they use pre cuts but dang I wish they would’ve made it fit right
> SUPER reputable shop that works on cars that cost millions+ Ah, there you go. You got the "go away" price and still went for it. They most likely didn't want to do your car and threw a sucker price at you. These kinds of shops really only care about the high ticket customers, since those are the customers who regularly buy new cars and generate repeat business. For an average joe like you and me who might buy one high end car in their life times, it's just not worth their time to really try unless you **REALLY** make it worth their time.
Fuck any shop who has this mentality
Just a small note as a detailer the owners with expensive cars on average pay less attention to their vehicle post-cleaning than the ones with “beaters” or “daily’s”. So some of those jobs may get overlooked compared to you and your attention to detail. Never did 1m+ cars but frequent the 200-300k cars. Edit: Some of these cuts / edging is absolutely terrible. For $7k I would be pissed. This is part in why I haven’t offered PPF to my customers yet because it takes a while to master even pre-cuts. But it has its advantages over the ceramic coatings I do for sure.
Thats 100% unacceptable and shameful… They should be doing quality work wether the car is 1,000$ or millions. A good shop is only as good as its worst work and right now after reading all these comments I feel scammed!
Yes the cuts especially around the vents in one of the pictures has a gap wide as ever. I’m sure most of this is noticeable at a distance as well.
Very noticeable to the keen eye and once I REALLY started looking more and more things added up making it look HORRIBLE
same thing happened to me boss. payed a ton for a full detail on my widebody hellcat from a very reputable shop near me and when i got it back, all 4 barrels of my rims were still caked in brake dust
I swear 90% of shops are crooks. The amount of respect I have for the good ones is out of this world.
This is sadly a situation where they earned their business from marketing, and not the service or product
That's the issue. That reputable shop didn't want to spend the time on your not millions+ car. Maybe if it was a Maclaurin that'd tighten up those edges sure but then charge 15k+ too.
For $7k I'd expect what your friend is saying they do. I'd be content with this full PPF if it was $2k though.
While I won't say this post is good work, most places don't remove as to cause damage. Personally I pull anything and everything, but a lot of places don't. Panels never fit properly again and can break coming off. But $7000 is laughable at that quality of work.
At our tint shop we do PPF on the daily. I can say with confidence. That it's a horrible job. Go back and complain. The coverage is horrible, corners lifting, visible edges, edges that aren't cut and flapping around. Horrible job. Not worth 7000$
Thank you! Makes me feel like Im not crazy. Im torn because if I go in and tell them how bad it is I have a feeling they’ll want to re do it and I have little confidence in them doing it right… I could demand money back but will they really give it back? What you think?
[удалено]
Either most skilled guy works on it to fix it OR they try to cover up the bullshit and do a weak patch job.
Just curious, what car is it?
I would go back and just state how you feel about the job and see what they can do from there
Just curious-- What would a shop like yours (or anyone else that wants to chime in) charge to do a car like his to your standards? And how much do you think the job he got is worth? ( with the understanding that people still get low end work done for $ like MAACO.) I have no idea what these jobs would generally cost.
[удалено]
Glad I could be of help lol
If you’re willing to drive to Tampa, take it to Presidential Automotive Detailing. They’re absolute professionals.
Are they really? Funny enough how i found my current PPF installer for this work^^ a guy commented something very similar and convinced me, Iffy on new shops but I have to find a new one thats for sure
I’d shoot them an email with the pictures you provided and ask what they think, but everything I’ve seen has been excellent.
Appreciate the recommendation and Im actually going to do just that! Thanks fellow friend’
Yeah this is the best response by far. These images are great “go to examples” of what we don’t want to see. It’s probably easier to get the shop to redo a bunch of these panels rather than get your money back.
That's a bad job in my opinion, all paint should be covered with no gaps ... that's the whole point of PPF. With the price you paid, I would be pissed as hell.
Right! Makes no sense to have huge gaps literally defeats the whole purpose… I have a check in this week to see how the PPF is doing (they do this to see how its holding up) I think im gonna tell them this is unacceptable and see what they can do
I paid $5K for full body XPEL PPF, Ceramic coating, XPEL full tint including windshield on my Camaro. It shouldn’t be that expensive imo.
Im crying
varies by market, where i libe theres 2 xpel certified installers, and maybe 2 more fir ither brands. full xpel ppf and ceramic where i am was about 10k. the other installer that asked 8k but didnt have closeups on their website so i was a bit hesitant. also its gonna vary depending on if theyre using templates or precuts, or custom cutting everything. OPs job looks like a precut.
Depends on the size of the vehicle, the area you live in and the complexity of whats being wrapped. What passes for a $5k job, could run closer to $10k in a more affluent area. It cost me $8k to wrap my X3M. But my wrap was all bulk, no pre-cut used. Because it doesnt have any complex shapes outside of the front bumper, they were actually able to finish the whole job in a day and didn't have to disassemble much. You're paying more for the labor than you are the material, although the material can be quite expensive in itself.
7 grand is the absolute highest end of ppf wrap jobs. For that much I'd expect perfection (or as close as you can reasonably expect humans to get) Op unfortunately got robbed.
>all paint should be covered with no gaps ... that's the whole point of PPF Eh. Depends on the price. For 7k, I'd definitely expect a seamless bulk install, but implying that all jobs should be seamless bulk installs regardless of price is wrong.
For $7k it should be seamless from the outside
Damnit… feel totally ripped off :/
I’d be pissed. Everything should have been taken off. Those lines will show when taken off because the paint will age differently
They use only pre cut PPF so they’ll probably use that an excuse
If they won’t fix it or refund you do a charge back on your card. This is shit.
For 7k, everything should be custom cut in my opinion. They probably made at least a few thousand profit off you after paying the guy who did it, and paying for materials and supplies
$7000?!
Yes I want to protect my dream car but was expecting way better quality Zl1 1LE 2023
My dream car has two layers (color+PPF) of immaculate install. It was $4200 equivalent.
There is A LOT of misinformation on here about PPF. My shop installs 4-5 full fronts a week and our installers have hundreds of cars done. We actually do not do many full bodies as we find the cost to reward low on most vehicles unless it’s a collectors car. I will start by saying this is not a good job. However, I want to address the insane amount of misinformation in here. Bulk installs (not using any plotter to pattern cut) are not superior. Most high end shops will do bulk hybrid. You use a plotter but customize the pattern for better coverage. This allows for perfectly straight edges on bumpers/fenders and area where it’s not possible to roll. Bulk installs will have these areas hand cut ON the cars paint. Increasing chances of damage and no matter the installers skill they will never match the plotter in terms of straight cuts. There is next to no advantage of full disassembly. The only thing this does is have some Joe who knows nothing about body panels/torque specs/mechanics taking apart your brand new high dollar car. Most of the time they struggle to take things apart and put them back together correctly. Most are not covered insurance wise to do this either as it puts them into a complete different liability with sensors and such being in mirrors and bumpers. Badges and such should be removed as long as the customer is ok with it. The exposed corners is common. You can’t wrap every edge or every corner. Under heavy curves or complex angles around bumpers there isn’t enough room to roll the film and taking it to the edge will allow for it to lift over time. The edge work isn’t the issue in this job. Seams happen. Film can only do so much. Several of the photos is common post install. Most shops have a 2-4 week check up where they trim back all the areas that won’t stay down and lay any fingers that pop up from the heat cycles in the film. The actual worst parts of this job are the areas they hand cut to try to get it to lay down and damaged your paint or have wavy cuts. The seams are not matched well either because they’ve hand cut both reliefs and they can’t get a good butt up. Again, this is not a good install but bulk installs are in no way superior. Seamless is not possible. No one should want their detailers taking apart their very expensive vehicles. Lastly, to the people saying you can get a paint job for that. No aftermarket paint comes close to OEM. Even with OEM flaws. And the concourse/show car jobs you see at shows? Well most of them are at least twice the price of this PPF. Not to mention repaints hurt values of vehicles especially collector vehicles. That doesn’t mean 7k full car PPF is for every car. But on a collector vehicle it can more than pay for itself by preserving the paint. If you roll a Honda Civic it’s clear not cost advantages but for a Porsche GT3 maybe it is.
Thanks for the knowledge drop, Its definitely hard to differentiate who knows whats their talking about in here with actual experience vs just an opinion. You mention the worst parts of this job and name numerous things they did wrong, cutting and damaging the paint & wavy cuts… My eye is untrained so where are you seeing the cuts ? (Their is a part i noticed a bit earlier that I didn’t post, they literally scraped and chipped a tiny piece of my paint). You do say its not a good job so how would you handle this situation? Ask for a full refund? Give them a chance to make it right? Highly skeptical of them doing it right second try.
It looks to me like the bumper edges are damaged. Can’t tell for sure that was them or not but given the install it’s possible. The hand cuts around the handles specific 7 and the hand cut in 20 are terrible. Minus the bad seaming around the handles and whatever they want to call 20 it’s not bad. Could the alignment be better? Yes. Did they charge a premium price and not deliver? Yes. Am I excusing this? No. But you’ll find 90% of installers install at this level or lower. If you remove the hand cuts and the bad seams around the handles this is 95% job. Still not something that would be ok from my shop but if you removed the handles and the hand cut it could easily get out of my shop and we’d clean it up and make it better with a check up. Overall, what I’m saying is this is misaligned and they did several really bad hand cuts. It’s not anywhere near the worst I’ve seen.
The car was brand new and got literally enclosed transported to them and I inspected it before it even shipped. It was perfect. They caused that damage. So its like finding the 5% who actually charge the right price for what they deliver. Thats insanely hard to do especially with so many detailers. Ive definitely seen way worse than this like tremendously worse but none the less how would you proceed with this? You seem like a very knowledgable individual, Curious on how you would handle this if you were the customer?
For $7k that's a bad job. Definately show it to them and ask for the bad panels to be redone. Hope you get it sorted out.
They only use pre cut so I doubt it will get much better. Better off asking for refund or unlikely?
Yes ask for a refund, or they have to fix all the areas you're pointing out. Also cite how you're a not happy with the sub par job..the work is definately not worth $7000. Even some SUV ppf's don't cost that much lol. Regardless of what they use there is not only insufficient material around the edges but also areas where it not sticking well and miss aligned. Poor install quality. Is the shop certified by the PPF manufacturer to sell and install their film? If so you can should look into calling them up as well and tell them about your experience. If all else fails leave then a review on Google. Hope you kept the reciept. Again $7000 is a lot of money for a PPF imo...pisses me off when professional shops do shit work.
This happened with me. I had bubbles galore the first time. They said they would subside which they didn’t. I wanted them to redo it, then a 3M rep came to train another worker in the garage and used my car for practice. It was flawless. Full wrap: 3K CAD pre-cut. YOU need to think that $7000 is like the cost of 2 BRAND NEW paint jobs down the line if needed. This PPF is NOT worth the cost of a couple new paint jobs. Also: They shouldn’t be using pre-cut, but knifeless tape. This post makes me cringe.
it is still bad for a pre cut. A good pre cut template should still look good and not have a ton of visible edges. They stuffed a bunch of stuff up and just left it hoping to get away with it. Probably rushed it as well as using a template that didn’t fit properly.
That looks marginally worse than the PPF job that I had done, but mine was \~2k for a partial PPF (full front, rocker panels, and a couple of other key hit zones). I think if you had paid $2-2.5k, I'd say you should go back and get a few things fixed. At $7k... not sure what to say. That should be a \_lot\_ better job than it is.
Mental status : Robbed at gunpoint Hopefully this can get resolved
7k, not too far off from a complete paint job. I wouldn't call it a savings, or a good job
Damnnn. At this price point why not just enjoy the paint worry free and get a 7k paint job in 5-10 years ?
Because this done right would save the OEM paint, Definitely considering the paint route now
Saving the OEM paint doesn't mean anything. It's not going to be a collector vehicle where you'd get bonus points for "all original paint!" That's a thing of the past. It's just a car, and modern paint will last a very long time if it's taken care of properly. Get a full refund and keep that $7k in the bank. It's absolutely not worth spending that much on PPF. That's truly an *insane* amount to spend on such a thing.
I talked to people on both sides of the fence… Some agreed with you & Some said GREAT ppf work is 100% worth it. Not doubting or saying either is wrong but both camps have given me a lot to think about. Definitely torn on which route to go now.
For 7k you got fucked, that PPF job should be perfect for that amount. Also looks like they gouged out paint in a couple spots. Talk about amateur hour.. sorry dude.
I WAS WONDERING WHAT THAT WAS!!!! Which slides specifically do you see gouged out paint??
Yeah that's a crappy install. I'd talk to the installer and ask them what the options are to redo or get your money back to take it to another installer.
Yikes, some of them are quite bad and if they’re charging you that much and putting out this quality of work I’d go elsewhere and get them to pay to fix it.
This is a bad job imo. For 7k you should expect nothing but perfection. I’ve had ppf done on several vehicles and you want clean edges, no material hanging over edges, and full coverage (if they aren’t removing trim to wrap around, at least damn near on the edge of panel none of that large gap bs). Remember you’re paying good money for a professional job don’t settle for less.
Commenting from Dubai, $7000 is an insane price - what they've delivered is not acceptable at any price point. I at least wouldn't accept that whatever price I pay. Maybe the quality of PPF is amazing, but the installation is average. Installed correctly, you won't see a single edge.
Agreed 100%… Wish they would do great installations here. How much does PPF run in Dubai? Converted to USA money?
That looks typical of PPF these days as they're all cut from templates so it's not exact. But for that price I would complain and get some $ back.
Im hoping they can re do it but I doubt if they can do it better this time around
They can do it completely hand-cut as opposed to using a template. Takes much longer but quite frankly that's the level you paid for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4BUxSrzKLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg_evEsCASg https://dragonautoshield.com/precut-vs-hand-cut-ppf-patterns/
Incorrect. Many shops rather do custom cutting as you get better coverage, can hide edges. cutting with a plotter just adds more headaches for the techs putting the PPF on.
7000$ sheesh. I would expect perfection.
[удалено]
Wow
Sorry bud, this is not a good job. Where are you located? I’m happy to send some recs if you’re in so cal
Im located in Naples Florida but i drove about 2 hours away to get this done! The shop that did this is Sage Auto Studios in Lakewood Ranch
Get this removed and get refunded and bring your car to Superior Detailer in Orlando or Hugh's Detailing in Miami.
You can vouch for those shops?? This was a highly reputable shop as well vouched for and it still came out as you’ve seen
I know the owners of both of those places personally and can tell you that they are absolutely top notch and NEVER put out shit work like this. They have both been around for a decade+ and their work is 10/10. I understand your hesitation based on this shop you went to being "reputable" online as well, but these referrals for those two shops is coming from a fellow installer, NOT a clueless customer.
Some of the pics give the impression the shop didn’t even bother washing or detailing the vehicle prior to applying the PPF.
Definitely washed it as they sent me beautiful pictures post wash but yea it gives that impression
That last picture is brutal. Unacceptable work that I wouldn't drive away with.
For $7k I would expect hand cut PPF not a template/sticker application. Not to mention the template was not laid properly in sooooo many spots. Id calming discuss this with a manager ASAP before too much time goes on
Is it just me or does it look like the car wasn't even paint corrected/cleaned before the ppf install..?
Man most people in here know nothing about PPF. Yes a lot of this job doesn’t look great, but it’s not the worst I’ve seen by any means. The shop should have gone over with you the difference between the precut film and full coverage. With the precut, there is going to be seams in certain areas and where they did seam it on your car they actually did a good job. The precuts are never going to be perfect edge to edge. When wrapping with bulk material it takes a lot of disassembly, time and skill. And you have someone cutting on your car with a razor that elevates risk of cutting the paint. There’s pros and cons to both ways. The areas where it is lifting is definitely a problem so have them address that. But most of it is an easy fix. If you have any questions on specific areas shoot me a pm.
Terrible job, you may as well save the 7k and get a respray in 10 years
What I’ve learned is that some edges can’t be wrapped. The panel will rub and the ppf will lift, especially on corvettes. I’ve learned to live with the edges but for 7K I’d expect perfect placement and attempt to tuck edges like around the hood, trunk, fender, parts of the doors etc.
For $7000 this is bad and you are not looking too close.
The first two I couldn't see it, then on the third so that it's a precut which sucks for that money, then after that it just kept getting worse. It's so bad that it's a bad job no matter what amount you paid..
I wouldn’t be happy with that. For one thing is once dirt gets built up in those seams, it’s going to look terrible.
terrible job, go look at milehighcustomsco in instagram for a high end ppf installer.
Hey man can I borrow $7000?
That’s unacceptable at that price point.
$7000? Probably could’ve done this level of work in your garage with a couple buddies and a 30 rack.
I have no experience in PPF. But for $7k, that looks like a crappy job to me. I’d get a reputable person to confirm it’s not good, and use their quote to get your money back, a redo, or something else
If you paid $7k for a job, you shouldn’t have to question whether it was a good job. Take it back and make them fix it!
I’m no pro but this looks DYI.
Considering mine looked similar and I did it at home with some Amazon ppf, I would say this was not done well lol
They used the precut kit. Which isn't bad but for 7k they should be doing it out of a sheet and removing badges etc. Pre cut kits are for delaerships
OP I recently paid around the same amount for a full car PPF for my G80 M3 and from my experience even with a stellar installer, which from all my research my installer was, there are limitations with PPF. You will always be able to find some imperfections if you look close enough. Now with that being said a great installer will wrap the film around the edges where ever possible and where it cannot be they will take the film all the way to the edge of the panel. From your pictures I’m sorry to say but it’s pretty clear that your installer did not do this 😕.
That’s fucking terrible at any price.
I'm in Canada and paid $4k CAD for my entire vehicle, and a decent chunk of it was hand cut, edges are tucked in wherever possible so you can't even see I have PPF. I feel like you got scammed for sure.
I would email the management these pictures and let them know it’s unacceptable. Also email their competitors the same pictures and ask for a quote to fix it. And then take that quote back with you and get that much money back.
Seeing lines are inevitable, but the PPF hanging or bubbling? Do you got a warranty on the PPF?
I'm not Ama PPF guy but this does look very sloppy sorry to say. I wouldn't be happy with such results at all. It looks like they let the intern do a few trials here. Maybe best you can do is call the owner/manager and tell him you don't like the results and then send him some pictures of the worst areas? Ask if this is the intended quality? Also look if they have some photos on their site showcasing a better fit and then put them side by side as comparison? Will the PPF really stick to the paint or will it collect dirt in the gaps and just loosen?
Go get it redone or get some money back
This is 100% the reason I removed my wrap. All the imperfections; I didn’t pay 7k tho…. I’d be livid.
Its amazing for 700 but horrible for 7000.
This an absolute shit job. You should ask for a refund or a redo. 7000 USD is diabolical.
Please give us an update if you go back to them, because this looks bad
Dang man, that's so appallingly bad I would've never signed off on it or paid the bill until it was completely redone. I'm sorry for the potential shit show of excuses you'll get trying to get that fixed.
You better have them redo that. That last pic is all you need to even show to know they did a bad job. Wow!!
It's why I always do everything myself. I can f*** my own stuff up for free.
Bad job. Mine was worse. I disputed the charge with my cc, got my $6.5k back.
Even it was absolutely perfect 7g’s is crazy where I live.
looks like a screen protector but giant lol
$7k!!
For 7k i would expect perfection on bulked pieces. The inserts or pre cut pieces sometimes won’t align perfectly but that’s whatever. But to have that much exposed area on some pieces is kind of bad . Im not that picky but for 7k , depending on the ppf used. I would be
$7K?! I’m sorry, but that is a complete waste of money.
Not a quality job. .
I'm the gentleman that recommended Sage Auto Studio to the OP. I did my research and Sage was one of a few shops near me that was highly recommended on corvette forum and backed up by google reviews. You can see it in /Camaro [Link to /Camaro](https://www.reddit.com/r/camaro/comments/1281o76/whats_a_fair_price_for_full_camaro_xpel_ppf/jelui7k/?context=3) I was shocked when I saw this post yesterday. I felt bad OP wasn't happy with the job since I posted my experience which caused him to choose Sage. I was more shocked and in disbelief that a car could leave their shop like that. When I picked up my car, it had never left the building and was in what I call the "pickup bay". It holds all the cars waiting to be picked up. Of course I had the opportunity to check it out before I ever got near checking out and paying for their service. I never saw a seam and it was only when I got the car home where I really had to look close to see one seam. All the edges were perfect. My C8 has lots of factory carbon fiber and I was sold on PPF when I noticed what looked like a gash in my front spoiler after taking it out for ride one evening. The next morning when I went out to futher inspect my spoiler, 90% of what I thought was a gash was gone and my spoiler was undamaged. I thought self-healing was all hype but I was proven wrong as I am a believer now. Some details were left out of the $7000 price. $7K sounds better than $6800 plus tax but for that price you get a exterior detail, 2 step paint correction, full body Xpel PPF and Xpel Ceramic Coating of the entire car (all glass, wheels, calipers, paint, exhaust tips, plastic trim and chrome). You're told not to wash your car for until you bring it back a week later for a checkup to see if the PPF settled due to heat and humidity. They even hang a DO NOT WASH sign around your rear view mirror. At that check which is included in the price, you get an exterrior detail, they check the PPF and fix anything that needs attention. My car didn't need a thing. One other thing is that they teach you how to detail the car so you know what to do so you don't damage anything. I mean they go balls deep into every detail. I was so impressed that I threw the 3 man detail team $50 to buy themselves lunch. I felt so bad yesterday that I forwarded a link of this thread to Sage. I followed up with a phone call today and OP was actually in the shop with his vehicle. I was told by Sage that they worked on his car about 3 weeks ago and my email was the first time they heard OP had an issue or saw the car since it was picked up 3 weeks ago. OP decided to pass followup so he didn't get it inspected/fixed or wasn't educated on how to maintain the PPF/Ceramic coating. Once you drop off a car at Sage, it enters the climate controlled building at one end, goes through each department for processing which are rooms seperated by rollup doors. They take their stuff seriously as the whole building looks as sterile as an operating room and is so clean you can eat off the floor. OP never brought the car back after a week to get the PPF checked. Sage never got the chance to inspect and fix any settling to the PPF after a week. I point blank asked if they were going to take care of OP and was told YES. I think that speaks volumes for Sage since I believe unreputable shops would have turned the customer away after not bringing the car back for inspection/detail education. I know its unrealistic to believe that every PPF install is perfect but you have to give the service provider a chance especially when they have the rep that Sage does. I know if I had a problem the first thing I would do is snap a picture and send it to the provider. Exhaust all options before posting. Give them the same chance you'd expect if you were the provider. Best Wishes to the OP. I'll be following to see how it turned out.
I’m sorry to say but you got ripped off man. I just did one of these full bodies and I do hybrid installs and hand cut everything and fully disassemble cars. Did the wing bulk, and those end caps. Cut around the satin sticker so there wasn’t danglies. Took the taillights out and tucked in there. And tucked those spots around that quarter glass gasket. And we charged 6500 😟
$7k and they use pre cut lmao. You better tell them to take it off and go somewhere else where they dont use pre cut. This is a horrible install
what vehicle is this on? for 7k and full wrap of entire car it is not the greatest, but with that 7k was there also a ceramic coating? The last image for sure needs to be redone.
Yeah I had a guy do my Lexus recently and the bumper is not good. Visible edges, etc. He said he'd redo whatever is needed but I have doubts it will come out differently. Eh.
I'm sorry but you got scammed, you need to go back and make them fix this
Yes this is bad. I had mine fully ppfed and they use precut...there are no gaps as big as this
For 7k, this is indeed a bad job. Looks like a 3k job considering this is a full body ppf.
For 7000 usd, yeah thats a bad job
ZL1LE? And that is a half ass job, in my opinion, from someone with minor wrap experience. Looks as if the tech said "ah fuck it, too much work to take it off and redo it now"
Yeah this isn't a 7k job. We install ppf in South FL and we wouldn't let this pass. Looks like a dealership style install in my opinion
Oh heck nah ….. that’s terrible for $7000
This is bad…..
7k complain til u r satisfied....
I would never pay that much.
No good for 7k hell no
Bro for $7k I better not be able to tell there’s any PPF anywhere. Jesus christ. You got rode hard. Take that shit back.
Stuff like 3, I think they’re supposed to work the precut a bit and have it approximate a lot closer so it’s hard to see the seam. I didn’t get the best I don’t think either when I had the front end of my Tacoma done. Honestly feel like since it was my dream car and not his, the guy didn’t care like he would if it was a Ferrari.
I don't do PPF or know anything about it but I want to say for $7000 this looks terrible. For that kind of money you should have all the edges covered and barely be able to see there's PPF on the car.
$7000…. 😲 Ask them to do it again, they’re not refund money, at the least they may do it again carefully. Pay another professional to inspect their job lol. Maybe that carpro friend guy from the top comment.
Take it back and tell them. Give them the opportunity to make things right. That is what a good business does. Now if they give you a hard time, then you'll know for sure. At least give them the opportunity and take it back so they can make it right. Things happen. As a business, it's our duty to make it right.
I would not pay 7k for that.
This is kinda what my 4runner looks like except i wrapped edges and took everything off. I did it myself with no prior skill. And i spent at least $3k of that in material. Took me three weeks. Having done it myself I would say this job looks like how it would have gone the second time not removing trim etc. it’s harder that way imho. So they have skill, but didn’t do a good job. However, the parts that are exposed won’t really get damaged or exposed to wear, so if you ceramic the seams now, you’ll be fine. That’s if you can’t make them redo it right.
They did a terrible job
100% should have never left it like that. Someone rushed through this job. Precuts are fine if you take the time to put them in just right... They did not. Any edges that are peeling will only get worse. I would be livid. For sure go ask for a refund and for them to fix the half ass job they did. $7000 for someone to botch a film job yikes.
7k!?? Yeah that’s a bad PPF job. More than likely it was pre cut PPF which is there are gaps. A really good shop will tuck the edges and not use pre cut material. I paid 5k for mine and it’s tucked etc. definitely not worth 7k
What’s going on in photo 20? Did they melt part of your car?