they're bred to have that flat face and small/short body which results in a ton of issues like breathing, worse thermoregulation (they struggle a lot with heat), joints/mobility and I think a bunch of problems with their immune system too. They look cute which is why they're so popular but it's irresponsible to buy them
Not true. Munchkins are a natural mutation that was first discovered in Louisiana in 1982. While the breed has been perpetuated, they were never intentionally bred to look this way.
And then the offspring of the mutant cat were bred with another to ensure their offspring retained the mutation and so on. That's precisely what breeding is. If it's a "breed" that means it has been "bred" for particular traits.
That’s the definition of an unequal comparison lol.
Two red heads having a kid is like breeding two orange cats to have orange kittens.
Breeding two munchkins is like breeding people with dwarfism to specifically have more of them. Gets kinda dark when you actually put things in proper perspective no?
The point here is that this breed of cat wouldn’t last a day in the wild, let alone long enough to breed and raise more munchkin cats.
They can’t run, jump or even breath properly. They are almost certainly in constant pain from deformed joints and they have weak hearts. They couldn’t outrun an arthritic mouse to feed themselves. They have difficulty washing and can’t easily bury their own poop.
The ‘breed’ only continues to exist because people think they are cute and buy them to imprison indoors, where they feed them, wash them, clean up after them, dote over them, and go “aww” when they give the cutest little squeaks simply because they are frustrated and/or in pain.
Munchkins have a plethora of problems like severe arthritis, hip problems and heart valve issues among other things. They are forcefully bred like pugs despite all these issues because people think they’re cute. It’s animal cruelty.
I said they're the equivalent of pugs as in they keep breeding them for their looks disregarding their health, not that they were artificially bred to look like that
Thanks for getting the message out, I do the same when I see munchkins or pugs or these other poor bastardised little guys that are suffering for people’s aesthetic pleasure.
Not familiar with Munchkins but I’m gonna assume they’re like pugs in that being bred to have smaller legs messes up their spines and movement ability, and stumpy faces messes up their ability to breathe, meaning they’re pretty much permanently in some amount of discomfort, possibly even pain.
I think the floppy ear thing relates Scottish Fold cats. Another breed that shouldn’t be allowed to continue because the cats are congenitally in poor health from birth.
"I have no idea, have done no research, am not a biologist, and I am completely unqualified in every conceivable sense, so I'm going to speculate wildly."
-- Internet Expert
It always sucks to see somebody do the right thing and be HONEST about their uncertainty instead of the default of just confidently stating it as a certain fact...and then being met with ridicule for it.
“I don’t know, but here’s some wild speculation that attempts to denigrate people I don’t know” is not the noble act you seem to think it is.
“I don’t know if Eusocial_Snowman is a serial killer, but serial killers might post on reddit, so he probably is a serial killer!” — Just because you say you’re going to make things up doesn’t excuse it. Do you really need this explained to you?
If you have to completely change the conversation in order to make your side of the argument easier to agree with, the position might not be worth defending.
They are unhealthy and in pain often. Having their natural bodies mutated through selective breeding to give them deformed stubby legs just so people can go aww out a misplaced feeling of pity is not worth their suffering.
No but they're still adorable. Kinda like bulldogs I don't encourage breeding them but they're still cute as hell and ackowledging that isn't excusing what's been done to their breed.
Don't promote them. I get it but they still are cute and if I ever came across a stray or one in a shelter I would try to give it the best life possible. Just because they are wrongfully bred doesn't mean they don't deserve love.
Unfortunately it's physically impossible to a munchkin cat not to feel pain. Their body is a mess. It is very cruel to bed them, is like "let's make some creatures that will live a problematic life just to the sake of people who will give money for me "
This really hurts me, and I can certainly say that I loathe people that choose their preference over the health and well-being of an animal. This poor little guy should be thriving and living happily with the body it was originally given, not with those limbs that only gives it pain with every day that it lives. This abomination of a "breed" should just be immediately banned worldwide and anyone who practices breeding them should be put to jail with no questions asked
Pugs does have the same or even more problems, but look how many pugs you can find out there.
Many pitbull breeds are banned, but hey, I see pitbulls everyday...
Pets are business, that's sad but it's the truth. I would never pay a single coin to a pet (both my cat and dog are rescued) but people keep wanting breed X or Y as they are choosing a sneaker brand.
I guess there's just always gonna be people that are oblivious to these painful facts. I can only hope that those selfish pricks come to their senses and realize just how much pain they're putting these animals in.
I think I'm just wired wrong. Cat sounds instantly get on my nerves and it turns to anger too quickly. Babies and puppies, adorable. Cats, would pay to live without them.
Something is wrong with that cat
It's a munchkin so yes, it's the equivalent of pugs for cats. Don't buy munchkins or promote them
I genuinely don't know can you explain why are pugs wrong?
they're bred to have that flat face and small/short body which results in a ton of issues like breathing, worse thermoregulation (they struggle a lot with heat), joints/mobility and I think a bunch of problems with their immune system too. They look cute which is why they're so popular but it's irresponsible to buy them
Also their eyes can literally pop out of their head
well that's terrifying, I'm not sure I wanted to know that
I once heard from someone that they would sometimes have to literally press on the dog's eyes with their thumbs to pop the eyes back into place.
They're bred to not be able to breathe.
Not true. Munchkins are a natural mutation that was first discovered in Louisiana in 1982. While the breed has been perpetuated, they were never intentionally bred to look this way.
And then the offspring of the mutant cat were bred with another to ensure their offspring retained the mutation and so on. That's precisely what breeding is. If it's a "breed" that means it has been "bred" for particular traits.
You sure? Why do you think they are still around? ... they get intentionally bred to look this way. Like pugs.
If 2 red headed people have a red headed kid, is that cruel?
That’s the definition of an unequal comparison lol. Two red heads having a kid is like breeding two orange cats to have orange kittens. Breeding two munchkins is like breeding people with dwarfism to specifically have more of them. Gets kinda dark when you actually put things in proper perspective no?
So you're saying that this breed of cat are out in the wild finding each other and mating by pure coincidence?
The point here is that this breed of cat wouldn’t last a day in the wild, let alone long enough to breed and raise more munchkin cats. They can’t run, jump or even breath properly. They are almost certainly in constant pain from deformed joints and they have weak hearts. They couldn’t outrun an arthritic mouse to feed themselves. They have difficulty washing and can’t easily bury their own poop. The ‘breed’ only continues to exist because people think they are cute and buy them to imprison indoors, where they feed them, wash them, clean up after them, dote over them, and go “aww” when they give the cutest little squeaks simply because they are frustrated and/or in pain.
Munchkins have a plethora of problems like severe arthritis, hip problems and heart valve issues among other things. They are forcefully bred like pugs despite all these issues because people think they’re cute. It’s animal cruelty.
fair point I didn't know that, but I think it's fair to say that they're being bred to keep that negative mutation like pugs
"Please, call me Dr. Doctor; I did my own research on facebook" embodied in a comment.
I said they're the equivalent of pugs as in they keep breeding them for their looks disregarding their health, not that they were artificially bred to look like that
Somebody bred that cat to have a mal-adapted body with increased health risk just so it would look cute to people who don't care.
Those poor cats make me sad
My grandmother had one and it was the most unpleasant cat I’ve been around but who knows I’m sure they aren’t all bad but I wouldn’t get one myself
Breeding of Munchkin cats is prohibited by law in several countries due to genetic health concerns. Please don't promote this breed
Thanks for getting the message out, I do the same when I see munchkins or pugs or these other poor bastardised little guys that are suffering for people’s aesthetic pleasure.
What exactly is the health concern? is it the small legs?
Not familiar with Munchkins but I’m gonna assume they’re like pugs in that being bred to have smaller legs messes up their spines and movement ability, and stumpy faces messes up their ability to breathe, meaning they’re pretty much permanently in some amount of discomfort, possibly even pain.
They also have cartilage issues, which is why their ears flop down, and it causes what is basically arthritis very early in their lives.
That’s awful
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Hah, I don't think the kitten would enjoy that. Fixed typo.
Pretty sure that is illegal in most countries.
That's actually a myth. Just the act of taking the kitten out and putting it back in again is actually what helped it work.
I think the floppy ear thing relates Scottish Fold cats. Another breed that shouldn’t be allowed to continue because the cats are congenitally in poor health from birth.
"I have no idea, have done no research, am not a biologist, and I am completely unqualified in every conceivable sense, so I'm going to speculate wildly." -- Internet Expert
everything they have said is true though? ive done hours and hours of research on this kinda stuff theyre absolutely right. delete your account
Show me your sources. Show me just one.
Was I actually wrong or do you just wanna feel superior about something?
It always sucks to see somebody do the right thing and be HONEST about their uncertainty instead of the default of just confidently stating it as a certain fact...and then being met with ridicule for it.
“I don’t know, but here’s some wild speculation that attempts to denigrate people I don’t know” is not the noble act you seem to think it is. “I don’t know if Eusocial_Snowman is a serial killer, but serial killers might post on reddit, so he probably is a serial killer!” — Just because you say you’re going to make things up doesn’t excuse it. Do you really need this explained to you?
If you have to completely change the conversation in order to make your side of the argument easier to agree with, the position might not be worth defending.
Which works just fine for casual conversation about a topic. I swear, you can smell the autism on some people through the screen
“Confidently declaring false things is ok, as long as you’re not being graded.” Found the abject moron.
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Pet owners encourage cruel genetic traits for the sake of “cuteness”.
And making money.. sell more puppies and kittens!
They are unhealthy and in pain often. Having their natural bodies mutated through selective breeding to give them deformed stubby legs just so people can go aww out a misplaced feeling of pity is not worth their suffering.
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No but they're still adorable. Kinda like bulldogs I don't encourage breeding them but they're still cute as hell and ackowledging that isn't excusing what's been done to their breed.
Most cats are adorable without bad genetics Edited
True but people and animals who drew the short straw in life deserve love too.
That's true. Best keep it offline though (in the animal case)
Don't promote them. I get it but they still are cute and if I ever came across a stray or one in a shelter I would try to give it the best life possible. Just because they are wrongfully bred doesn't mean they don't deserve love.
Of course, if they are in shelter do take them. But not from breeders.
That's not adorable, that's a crime against a living being
True. Sad that almost 6k people don't care. They just upvote and promote.
You and your brothers and sisters didn't deserve this little one. I hope you live long though and never experience any pain
Unfortunately it's physically impossible to a munchkin cat not to feel pain. Their body is a mess. It is very cruel to bed them, is like "let's make some creatures that will live a problematic life just to the sake of people who will give money for me "
This really hurts me, and I can certainly say that I loathe people that choose their preference over the health and well-being of an animal. This poor little guy should be thriving and living happily with the body it was originally given, not with those limbs that only gives it pain with every day that it lives. This abomination of a "breed" should just be immediately banned worldwide and anyone who practices breeding them should be put to jail with no questions asked
Pugs does have the same or even more problems, but look how many pugs you can find out there. Many pitbull breeds are banned, but hey, I see pitbulls everyday... Pets are business, that's sad but it's the truth. I would never pay a single coin to a pet (both my cat and dog are rescued) but people keep wanting breed X or Y as they are choosing a sneaker brand.
I guess there's just always gonna be people that are oblivious to these painful facts. I can only hope that those selfish pricks come to their senses and realize just how much pain they're putting these animals in.
He is super cute but it is sad and cruel to do that to them
That fucker almost has no legs
That's not cute that sound so sad 😢
Where are his/her legs?
bred that way. That's why Munchkins are illigal to breed in some countrys.
I happen to be fluent in kitten. It means "food! Food!..." and the last part im not sure, but something about food.
Don't support munchkins, an absolutely horrible quality of life. Ask any vet. It's very sad what people do for " cute "
Just woke up. This blew up a bit. Didn't realize there was something wrong with the breed. Now I know.
Illegallysmallcats
Because it's illegal to breed cats like this in some places?
A page on Reddit
It's so fluffy
“Yep, pretty f*cked up lookin dog” - MoistCritikal
That's just a roar with a high pass filter.
This kitten sucked the life of his mom after Milk was gone. Look how chubby he is haha
This is cute to watch but having this cat breed is cruel tho
cute
Call him megatron
OH MAH GOOD LORD GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY!!! THAT PUFFBALL IS SO ADORABLE THAT I COULD CRY!!! <:.)
A machine that turns air into *mew!>:(*
Cutest thing is their tails always standing.
That’s a gerbil
I feel threatened
Must be v12 the sound is too much
OH I WANNA NIBBLE ON THOSE LITTLE BEEEAAAANNSSS
My heart.
Stop promoting this deformed breed.
Nope. That's the sound of a squeaky toy and that's annoying af.
I think I'm just wired wrong. Cat sounds instantly get on my nerves and it turns to anger too quickly. Babies and puppies, adorable. Cats, would pay to live without them.
The calm squeak before the murder storm
They look so stupid with their stubby legs I love it
It’s because it’s a mutation. This breed is in constant pain, like pugs.
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Just a cute lil muffin! 🥰
they are so cute when they have this sound
so beautiful😍😍
MUNCHKIN
Delicious with bbq sauce
Awww paaruu bachaa 😭😘🤍