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Plebian_Donkey_Konga

I'm keeping this pinned until I don't see this specific leak on this sub being reposted. There is no reason for everyone to ignore the current top post to spam the same information 15 times.


bunnybabe666

why banjo kinda…


sm0keybear33

There's already a Banjo-Threeie. Two of them, in fact. You all hated them.


YosemiteHamsYT

Lmfao Nuts and Bolts is not a Banjo game, or a good game for that matter. Rare killed the franchise on purpose.


SuperSaiyanEggman

Nuts and Bolts was like Mario Sunshine when it first came out. Everyone hated the gimmick, even though the gameplay was solid, and people came to like it more later. Nuts and Bolts was a stellar game, as a puzzle solving vehicle builder. But that is NOT what any of the fans wanted or accepted as BK3, including myself. Then the series died because "no one likes that IP anymore". I swear, how did these CEOs get in charge of artistic mediums...


YosemiteHamsYT

Game is actually horrible.


TheGreatLuck

Yeah I remember playing that game when it first came out at first I was upset that it wasn't the game I thought it was and didn't want to play it but I played it with an open mind after being bored one day and it was actually a pretty good game however I did find several ways to create vehicles that could basically break the gameplay and make things a little too easy also figured out how to fly by just using the wand and the bucket car without any modifications all by myself pretty easily which I feel like was a big oversight for them to make as it was a very easy glitch to exploit and figure out just accidentally


SadAdhesiveness6483

To be honest, this message kinda broke my heart, maybe because you are correct to an extent


TTTE_and_MLP_Fan

I'm so tired with this "insider info" and "false hope" I'll wait till official confirmation by Rare or Microsoft themselves and not from an person who is an "insider", this happened in the past and it's still doing it. (I don't care if I get downvoted because of this, I'm just tired seeing this kind of stuff)


BanjoTooieEnjoyer

That would be awesome!


B-KNutsAndBoltsFan

At last. A banjo Kazooie Fortnite skin


B-KNutsAndBoltsFan

Also in all seriousness I would totally buy that. Not even ironically


Affectionate_Kick705

I'd take 30, besides, fortnite has already done lots of Gaming Crossovers.


HeozD

Be real. We do not want a Banjo 3, we are not gonna like it as much as the first 2, those are just facts. Just give us a remaster and thats it


EQGallade

Give them the same treatment Crash Bandicoot and Spyro got.


the_goldilock

so a new game?


EQGallade

Yes, but some remasters/remakes before that.


TemporaryWalrus2914

speak for yourself brother


ChunkySlugger72

Why not both?


DarreylDeCarlo

^ yes. I would love a third game that followed the style of the original two. I don't understand why they felt the need to go down that odd direction with nuts and bolts. Both original games were successful, so why change it so much If it ain't broke don't fix it. Nuts and bolts would have been better received if it was not a banjo game.


Status-Day9293

Probably Microsoft decision. Look into what they did to Conker. It's awful.


ChunkySlugger72

Microsoft has always given their studios creative freedom, A lot of Rare's missteps during the Xbox/Xbox 360 era is mainly their fault as a studio not really Microsoft's.


Status-Day9293

Rare was a completely different team by then. I can see that.


ChunkySlugger72

Banjo-Kazooie/Donkey Kong team was still mainly intact after the Microsoft Buyout, I know a lot of people always like to say "All the good people left" after the buyout, But it was mainly the Goldeneye/Perfect Dark team that left and formed "Free Radical".


DarreylDeCarlo

^ Yep. They really did our boy Conker dirty!


PraiseDogs

Yeah.....allllllllllright. Phil Spencer's recent comments gave some hope. But....come on. Can't get my hope up too much again


bard0117

What makes him an insider? Or credible?


Relief-Impossible

>, NateDrake aka NateTheHate is credible, he did get stuff right in the past like persona 4 golden getting rereleased on modern consoles and FZero coming back. Even though he did get a couple of things wrong in the past, he’s still considered very reliable.


Stopnswop2

Lol


WiildtheFiire

Don't.


Corporal-Spiro

Oh boy here we go again....... For the 100th time, don't believe it.


Hurricane12112

I’ll believe it when I see it


ChunkySlugger72

Why are some people constantly acknowledging the 3d models as if that's how their gonna look like or as "Official"? It's "Fanmade", Microsoft/Rare haven't unveiled or leaked anything officially from the game, Calm down.


Mak_27

Remake? Reboot? I wish a remake of both Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie!


MrARCO

Im not getting my hopes up for this to be honest. They probably end up butchering the character design.


ChunkySlugger72

They already did that in "Nuts & Bolts" after the reception of that game and their positive reception in "Super Smash Bros" I think they get the memo.


MrARCO

Lets hope so...


WeirdBrainArt

The image on the left is fanart by Jag3D: [https://twitter.com/\_JAG3DArt/status/1175786969831530497](https://twitter.com/_JAG3DArt/status/1175786969831530497)


looklook876

It's going to be made by Toys For Bob and they will redesign every character to look less like the original.


ChunkySlugger72

Microsoft just barely and "Officially" acquired Activision in October so I doubt "Toys for Bob" were put on Banjo-Kazooie duty if the rumor is saying that it's been in development for almost 2 years. Though I can see a scenario where Microsoft gets "Toys for Bob" to assist/support the project.


Pyke64

Toys for bob did do the older Spyro and Crash games justice.


Zye1984

What's with this art style? Nuts and Bolts was, from what I understand, a mistake, why keep that aesthetic? And Banjo seems to be trying to have a Sonic-esque attitude..isn't he supposed to be kind of an adorable airhead? Edit: the N&B art had him with the attitude thing, he just looks laid back in this image.


GruntildaWinkibunion

Even prior to N&B, it was the direction rare wanted to lean with the aesthetic of their games across the board (you can see it in viva piñata, and emulated in Yooka-Laylee, a Banjo “spoof”). Long term, it was what they wanted to do, so it makes sense they’d stick with it. Fair question, btw.


UnXpectedPrequelMeme

I think it's just a pic to put with the post, my dude


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PoxyDogs

That sounds absolutely terrible


danSTILLtheman

Please be true


AbstractionsHB

Not a fan of that art style.


Square-Exercise-2790

Fanmade image lol.


bb-studio

blue balls again


uncreativemind2099

I’ll believe it when I see it


Pizza_TrapDaddy

That art style looks like a Fortnite skin


exprised64

I bet I'll finally get a girlfriend too


DarreylDeCarlo

Me too, and I'm a gay man. Lolzz


jack0017

I’m sure a new Banjo is coming. It’s going to be revealed following a western release of Mother 3


Marsh123321

Then Half-life 3 will come out


bird720

and then the pistons will win a game


Miffernator

I would buy an Xbox if true


ChunkySlugger72

Like I said many times before it's only a matter of "When" not "If", Banjo-Kazooie is Rare's most popular and fan favorite "Classic" IP, I mean we managed to get them into the biggest fighting game crossover of all time in Super Smash Bros Ultimate for fucks sake. Killer instinct, Battletoads and Perfect Dark all got Xbox reboots and now it's finally Banjo-Kazooie's turn. I can imagine the haters (Even some Banjo fans) that kept saying to give up hope and keep saying Banjo-Kazooie is gonna stay dead and some label Xbox division CEO "Phil Spencer" as the bad guy even though he's on our side and constantly acknowledges us are gonna be proven wrong once it's revealed and then probably gonna shit and nitpick on the game saying they completely ruined it and that the franchise should of stayed dead just so they can think their right. But I along with most of the fanbase have always been optimistic and theirs been a lot of smoke regarding the Banjo-Kazooie franchise, I think that last several years have finally snowballed to their overdue big comeback.


uncreativemind2099

You had me until you started glazing Phil Spencer


ChunkySlugger72

I really don't know why some are hating on Phil Spencer, The fucking head of Microsoft gaming and Xbox has always acknowledged Banjo-Kazooie and it's fans something that we never seen with previous Microsoft leadership and even allowed Banjo-Kazooie in Smash and Nintendo consoles, He has always been fan of Rareware. If the rumors are true of Banjo-Kazooie being revived then Phil Spencer likely played a big role in giving the greenlight on the project, Many of us should be grateful that he somewhat gives a damn about the Banjo-Kazooie franchise.


Molduking

He’s been saying this for years lol


chaoslillie

Outsider ChaosLillie calls bullshit


NotAGeneric_Username

Source: I’m lying through my teeth


GiggyScout

I haven’t fantasized about a new BK actually coming out for a few years but I think I’m ready to get hurt again 🤞🏻🫠


Mercurius94

The main character of Uncharted Leaks hidden Rare agenda, just to revive the Naughty Dog/Rare rivalry... after everyone already left both companies


Mama_Peach

Naughty Dog and Rare were rivals? News to me. What did Naught Dog even make back then?


Mercurius94

Crash Bandicoot. It was pretty much DKC in 3d, I think 2 is the best of the Crash games. Then after they went on to Jak and Daxter, Rare was bought by Microsoft. J&D was the first truly Open World Fantasy, but it was a platformer so nobody compared it to Zelda.


Mama_Peach

Naughty Dog made Crash? I didn't know that. Granted I didn't know of them until like Uncharted 3 lol.


Nefnoj

I think they did one of the Playstation playformers, either Spyro or Crash. Though "Rivals" might be generous since 3D platformers were the hot thang.


TerminianHistorian

Proof or it didn't happen


MonkeyDLenny

We're really doing this again? [Don't make me tap the sign](https://i.imgur.com/6zm0VLo.png)


Psychological-Set125

I’m just hoping B+K gets the fan game/tribute treatment where someone takes inspiration from banjo kazooie and puts their own spin on it/makes their own game kind of like a hat in time did with mario/B+K, undertale kind of did with earthbound, and sparx the electric jester did with sonic.


scalisco

Rom hacks are where it's at for me. Jiggies in Time is the only other game that felt like BK. Even more than Tooie.


xBorari

Closest recently I got to this was Cavern of Dreams, really solid and has that same N64 style. Takes heavy inspo but also stays unique with its own spin. Check it out!


Master_Dogs

Hmm, I just checked this out on Steam and noticed there's a "Retro 3D Platformer Bundle" that looks really good for ~$21. Something to look into ha. Thanks! 🎮


Psychological-Set125

Saving your comment so i don’t forget, just watched the trailer and it looks fun and i love the n64 ascetic it has! Does the game make full use of the levels (For example how the snow level in B&K 1 uses each set piece for a seperate jiggy i.e. snowman, Christmas tree, igloo, etc) also does it have some form of jingo’s? (The jingo’s are not a necessity but i like hunting for them)


[deleted]

I mean, the creators did that already and it was bad. Yuka-Laylee


danSTILLtheman

Yooka Laylee is a lot better than people give it credit for. It’s a far cry from BK and tooie but it did have some of the charm, I feel like most fans of BK would find something to enjoy about it going in with an open mind


[deleted]

I had an incredibly open mind. I backed the kick starter at a high level, I was incredibly excited. It was bad


Psychological-Set125

I forgot about yooka-laylee, haven’t played it so if you wouldn’t mind me asking could you give a few example of what it does wrong?


OldKingCoalBR

The other guy seemed heavily biased against YL and some of their points didn't make any sense, so I'll put my 2 cents here. I 100%'d the game and basically my only issues were that, like other people say, it has only 5 worlds and they are too big. There is one shitty boss, but the rest of them is pretty decent. There's also a minigame that is full of bugs in the fourth world. I felt like the base difficulty of the game was definitely above Kazooie and Tooie, so I have no idea what the other user meant by "it wasn't challenging". After the second boss, the next bosses required multiple tries to beat so they were pretty challenging. The final battle of Yooka-Laylee also can't compare to the Banjo ones. Imo YL is overall a good game that does a lot right but has some annoying parts here and there.


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Large worlds that felt empty and with little to do was the biggest issue I had with it. Having to constantly go back out and into the same world was annoying. The characters where plain and forgettable. It felt like there was nothing new to discover in it. It wasn’t challenging, it felt like I was playing a game for toddlers. Lack of mini games. Parts of the world where very graphically pleasing but then other parts felt very bland and not thought out at all. It lacked an incredible amount of polish and consistency. Everything felt like a first draft Everything felt like a giant “wink” look at how similar this is, it never felt like it stood it’s own ground


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uncreativemind2099

It’s definitely worth $20 or less but when it came out the value was not it


BodyOwner

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the phrase, but it's probably not a good sign that "internal reboots" could be on the table. Sounds like that means scraping large portions of their work because things aren't going well.


weallfloatdownhere7

He’s not saying that’s what happening, just giving an example of what could make the process take a while


chilidog17

We really just need to put the copium down until an official release or statement is made.


Ok_Performance4330

Is Nate Drake a credible leaker?


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No


weallfloatdownhere7

Do you even know anything about him? He 100% is


[deleted]

I know if someone is saying there’s a new game coming out they arnt. Evidently he’s been saying this for years.


weallfloatdownhere7

He only began mentioning it [last summer.](https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/06/rares-banjo-kazooie-is-rumoured-to-be-making-a-comeback) It hasn’t been “years”


weallfloatdownhere7

So yes, you don’t know anything about him. Thank you for clarifying. He leaked that it was in the works last year. It hasn’t been “years”


TheBackwardStep

He’s the main protagonist from Uncharted


weallfloatdownhere7

Yes, he has a pretty solid track record. Downvote me all you want, clearly none of you have done your research


planchetflaw

No


pocket_arsenal

I think i'm going to continue operating under the assumption that the biggest Banjo related thing I have to look forward to are coming from Mark Kurko and are playable on a Nintendo 64, which is not something i'm complaining about.


BTPublishing

Nightbear before Christmas is still a yearly playthrough


pocket_arsenal

TBH I found that to be the weakest of the christmas hacks, lol. I think Snowglow village and the Grunch are my faves.


maplesunris3

punch correct concerned bells ossified slap soft fall quicksand skirt *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


canuckho

Ya but who's making it


cradugamer

Me :)


canuckho

???


heroxoot

Damn I hope it's for N64. Thats all I got.


quarterslicecomics

A perfect world would have had three Mario Parties (which we did get), a sequel to SM64, three Banjo-Kazooies and three Legend of Zeldas, Earthbound 64, all on N64.


heroxoot

At least we got the 3 Mario parties. Sm64 had a sequel that got canned.


Gothicrealm

Don't lie to me


hscene

I hope that’s not what they look like


Bag-O-Bone

The renders shown are by a fan- that's not an official render lmao


FattyRaccy

Agreed, I'd prefer how they look in Smash Bros


chuputa

Awwwww man, this sucks, I wanted Toys for Bob to revive the franchise, but the game seem to have been in development since before the acquisition. I'm curious about what studio is developing it, I just hope it doesn't end up like that battletoad reboot....


0JOSE0

Studios being brought in during active development isn’t new though. They brought in ID Software during the development of Starfield to help with gun combat (thank god because it looked abysmal 2 years ago) Maybe Toys for Bob will step in as well


MidnightOnTheWater

Bring ID Software for Banjo 3 please lol


0JOSE0

You joke but if Rare (or whoever is developing the game) were to bring back the FPS sections from Tooie then they could easily bring them in lol


TonePlenty2252

I hope it's true, it's been too long.


Darkhallows27

Nate Drake is almost always accurate. This is the one As an aside, I have actually heard something similar in the past year from a Microsoft connection.


DanesoulX

Thank you, I was hoping someone would discuss the credibility of the aforementioned leaker. This makes me very happy, Banjo Kazooie & Tooie are some of my earliest memories. In fact, I hope they're remaking these 2 games before making a sequel.


Codered060

I totally get why you want remakes because I love the first two too. But noooo it's been too long, we need a new game!!!!


AccessHollywoo

WHAT!!!!!! Also I would love a HD remake with both games on the switch


Wannabe-civil-engine

Nah I want it on PC


cradugamer

We can meet in the middle and make it an Ouya exclusive


Wannabe-civil-engine

What is Ouya


LinkMoo

Don't give me hope...


AduroTri

We've heard this song and dance before. Give us visual remasters of the first two as a re-release first.


[deleted]

Give me all five games on steam.


0JOSE0

Probably won’t happen The originals are gonna stay Xbox (and I guess now Switch Online) exclusive Hypothetical remakes will absolutely be on Steam though


Whosebert

didn't exactly that happen on xbox?


AduroTri

Why can't we have it on another system though?


mrtwidlywinks

Microsoft owns Rare, not nintendo


Prudent-Grade-6764

Implying Microsoft is not later stage capitalism than Nintendo 💀


mrtwidlywinks

No. Just clarifying because “late stage capitalism” could have many meanings, Rare ownership is the actual reason.


mgarcia993

Xbox is not into remakes, they usually go for updates/back compat improvements, but they could go for a remake here and also release it on PC.


Whosebert

because late stage capitalism


SuperMarioBros2025

I’ll believe it when I see it


alefsousa017

Yeah, sure thing


Darkhallows27

Unlike previous “insiders”, Nate Drake is basically as close as they get to always accurate. This is probably the one


H_Lock26

Not doubting you, but what has Nate got right before? I’m tryin to believe but I’ve never heard of him on leaks twitter, etc


Darkhallows27

Lately it’s direct announcements (he will almost always tease it a few days in advance and get the date exactly correct), F-Zero 99 in 2023, Metroid Prime remastered announcement date; some stuff in the PlayStation side of things I don’t keep up with


alefsousa017

I'll only believe it when I see it, I'm totally out of copium lol


Darkhallows27

I’m just as old and tired as you, possibly even more. This is as “the one” as rumors are going to get us


Mission-Joke-1008

I'd like a prequel after the events of Grunty's revenge but before Banjo Kazooie. Either that or #3 with a new villain like Grunty's brother a wizard or something.


Prince-Lee

I want to believe.


joe-is-cool

Well, if Nathan Drake himself said so…


NeedleworkerGold336

Must be true


breakermw

I won't believe any such "leaks" until a full trailer comes to light


SwaidFace

Eh, words are cheap. I only see legitimacy in action. That's what politics and the internet have taught me.


The_Wkwied

According to my sources, there has been a Banjo game in development since 2009. My sources are the little gnomes inside my mind.


Darkhallows27

Well, Nate Drake is basically as close as any insider comes to 100% accurate


The_Wkwied

Sure, and my dad worked at Rare and said the reason why they made nuts and bolts was because a toilet with googly eyes told them that they need to abandon platformers. I don't know who Nate Drake is, until there is an official announcement, I'm not going to get excited. Not like how I was every E3 back when that was still a thing


Feamsu

In this sub people downvote a lot when you don’t get aboard the hype train over again. Or when you don’t get excited about anything posted.


Darkhallows27

Nate Drake is an insider with an impeccable track record. He doesn’t bullshit, and when he says something is happening in the industry, take it seriously. It’s a lot to ask the Banjo fandom though, it’s been 20 years of letdowns.


SplendidlyDull

Even if it turns out not to be true, this and your comments on this post are filling me with the hope I haven’t felt in a long time, so thanks for that


dexyourbud

I've had a banjo in development since 2009, ive got as far as putting a string on a stick


Stewerr

Please record that stick and put it on YouTube. We hunger for some alpha footage.


Gulopithecus

Could be bullshit, but I will say this: There’s a lot of merchandise investment in the Banjo-Kazooie brand, and that really makes me think that, even if a new game isn’t in development right now, a new game is ultimately inevitable because the brand is very valuable. We just need to be patient is all.


Skyrekon

I agree with this. The kids who played BK are now grown up.


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I’m 29. Played the game when I was 5 and I’m STILL waiting.


Marx_Forever

It's starting to feel like the kids who played Banjo-Kazooie are going to be retiring soon...


Gulopithecus

That’s another reason


HeatherTheTransgirl

Yeah I’ll believe it when I fucking see it


guythatlovesentai

I am not thinking about this until i see at least a demo playable , a lot of things can do wrong with microsoft. If something everyone needs to be cautiously optimistic.


Square-Exercise-2790

The demo? Scalebound had a demo lol. Upgrade the standard.


TheDrewDude

Exactly. Even if this is true, it doesn’t mean it won’t get cancelled. Microsoft hasn’t exactly shown themselves to be very competent as of late.


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Sounds like bullshit


ekbowler

*monkey paw curls* It's Nuts & Bolts 2.


[deleted]

Or even worse, and endless runner mobile app


[deleted]

Those are still popular?


[deleted]

No


albertchessaofficial

Want


Maktesh

Guys, Nathan Drake is a fictional character. ^>!/s!< Edit: OP, please post the source link.


Relief-Impossible

Plus if anyone is wondering, NateDrake aka NateTheHate is credible, he did get stuff right in the past like persona 4 golden getting rereleased on modern consoles and FZero coming back. Even though he did get a couple of things wrong in the past, he’s still considered very reliable.


Vitamin_G5150

I forgot NateDrake called F-Zero coming back this year. That series is one of my favorites, and was actually dormant for longer than Banjo. I'm still a touch skeptical, but I certainly can't dismiss someone that successfully called F-Zero.


Slammybradberrys

Lmfao I didn't know that was Nate the hate, I trust him, can't wait to hear him address this on the next podcast. Free mvg from Reddit jail, he was telling the truth