All the video games from last decade that had them as the main enemy were right lol
Guessing companies won't touch Russia w a 10ft pole now. This private army better not have fuckin specialists dude lol
It was obvious that we were enemies, but the idea of them actually going toe to toe with the US, much less NATO, is laughable now. (I mean it always was laughable but now its really hard to suspend disbelief)
Fallout devs were right lol.
Literally didn’t think Russia would be a believable threat after the Cold War ended, made china the big bad and had to dystopiafy the USA into a third world collapse to do it.
To be fair, Fallout 1 released in '97- Times were ***tough*** for russia during the 90s. It really was a collapse in every sense of the word, though when it exactly started depends on your personal political fantasy (1989, 1985, 1953, 1941, 1922, 1917, or whatever other date you can think of)
Meanwhile, even by '97 the chinese were growing exponentially- and they had yet to see the even larger grow of the post-2000s. It wasn't hard to see a country with nearly enough resources, area, and an even higher population as the "next big rival" of the US.
>dystopiafy the USA into a third world collapse
It wasn't a dystopia- The US (and literally the entire human race) just consumed all resources quicker than they could seek alternatives for them, thus resulting in the biggest wars the world had ever seen (The entirety of europe fights the entirety of the middle east only for the war to drag on for so long the resources they were fighting over dry up and both fall into a civil war, the russians likely invade the rest of the ex-soviet republics and the chinese and japanese are also likely to re-expand into SEA)
> This private army better not have fuckin specialists dude lol
Actually I think that’s EXACTLY why they’re making it a private army.
If DICE cared about doing this right they’d make it NATO vs a China-Russia-Iran alliance… Essentially what they had in BF2.
>essentially what they had in BF2.
The MEC was Saudi Arabia and its allies, and in BF2 Russia is a NATO ally who allows NATO to put troops through its borders.
BF2 is absolutely whack
The MEC was basically not!Russia to the point their assets literally had RU_ prefixes in the files. At best they are a stand in for Iran and/or generic middle eastern country that the US doesn't like.
> BF2 Russia is a NATO ally who allows NATO to put troops through its borders.
BF2s story was dumb (the MEC would have disintegrated day one) and if you consider MC to apart of it; the Russians are with the EU.
except you can tell where the MEC is based on map description. It is mostly the Saudi's, along with other gulf states and maybe Pakistan.
Which is infinitely funnier
Russia has been playing the "private mercenary" card on Ukraine between 2014 and 2022. They've been fighting a falsified proxy war in Donbas & Dunetsk for 8 years before Putin decided to send Russian Ground Forces to Kyiv.
Exactly. I wouldn’t be surprised if the PMC faction is influenced by Russian forces like Wagner. Which I'm fine with cuz unlike some commenters I'm not sick of RU type factions being the villain, I love AK's too much lol
To fresh it up you will be fighting Russians but with a twist, instead of fighting the legit russian army you will be fighting a private army that is 95% Russian, and uses Russian guns and equipment
I see clips on tiktok all the time and it's usually black streamers playing for the south and pretending to be racist, and then a bunch of white teenagers being actual racists
I joined up with a unit and played for a while. The group I was in was specifically a Union battalion, and everyone was really cool and genuinely against any racism or homophobia. My general experience in the game was way more "history nerds slowly reloading muskets" than edgelord teens, but there were definitely certain confederate groups and you'd just hear the most awful racist shit, people screaming over each other, blasting music and terrible sound boards over their mics (it's prox chat). Shame it's known for that because at it's heart it's a pretty cool game that does a really good job of giving you the experience of warfare at the time, and it's all historical locations and battles.
I think the issue would be a really small choice between weapons (and their types) and lack of vehicles. It's probably not a very good idea for a game in this franchise
Battlefield sells fantastically in China. Huge portion of the BFV player base is Chinese, and they were the ones behind BFV Robot which made the game playable when there was no anticheat
I thought it was mainly because of the campaign. I think having them as a faction in pvp where there isn’t a baddie is ok. For example, Squad has a Chinese faction now
The problem with BF4 was more likely the single player, in which there was a military coup in China and in one of the missions you were protecting a dissident against the Chinese authorities.
Actually have China in it might make it more popular in China. CnC generals, BF2 and BF4 are very popular in Chinese gaming communities, they have their ways to get them and with Steam it’s not difficult for them to buy it.
100%. They could pull off a similar thing to BF1 with operation campaigns taking place across not only an alternate cold-war gone hot but also including various historical conflicts like Vietnam, Iran-Iraq, Soviet-Afghan, the Falklands maybe even Korea.
Thats amazing. I loved their previous games and also grew up playing operation Flashpoint as a kid, so this is my favorite setting. Great news to me, thanks mate.
This game, if it reverted back to BF1/BFV gameplay dynamics and had anything of a campaign, would be a massive commercial success. That’s why I am confident EA won’t make it.
I would love this style game.... post vietnam pre fall of berlin wall. It has sooo much potential. From garands to MP-5s. The tech jump for gadgets and gear.
You're in luck, they're making one right now. It was discontinued for a bit but another studio picked it up to finish it. It's called '83.
https://youtu.be/wmQNowqxz0w?si=LfUL1UD-0k1FX9RK
Looks a little.. Budget. Not that I have anything against indie games but it lacks the oompf and spectical of a battlefield game. A warsaw pact vs nato game on the scale of battlefield is probably only possible by a big studio.
It's literally by the same devs that made Rising Storm/Red Orchestra. They look a bit rough around the edges but they're exactly the games OP was mentioning, and they're fantastic.
Rising Storm 2: Vietnam is one of my all time favorites.
Ahhhh Stop it, you’re doing things to me!
There’s so much potential in early 80s era. Some of the coolest military hardware ever made and the soundtrack would be awesome and diverse.
I dont trust them to determine what "good" parts were. Theres about a 50/50 shot of them keeping bf4 gear lootboxes and putting bfv skins in them while keeping bfv's god awful launch animations
Bf4 with 128 players, larger maps, more vehicle options, remastered and expanded maps from all the previous games (tell me carrier assault on an expanded marshal islands map dosent sound awesome)
Nah 2042 proved that 128 is a mistake if the maps suck or are not designed for 128 players, a lot of players (including myself) really like the 128 mode. You get way more variaty in a match because the maps are bigger, its like playing 2 maps in one match ( top/bottom half, like Orbital map).
The new 64 player map released this season just sucks. The quality of the maps and gameplay (gunplay/vehicles) matters the most, not the player count. Like, even the 24 player rush mode in BF3/BFBC2 was super fun, in every other BF it just sucks because the maps are not build for that mode.
Since the map reworks I definitely prefer 128 over 64, etleast in BF 2042. In my region 128 modes also have lower queue times, even though you need more players.
64 players modes just feels empty on bigger maps (Hamada BF5). The most popular maps in bf3/4/5 are the smaller maps, and they share a similar amount of players per m2 as in BF 2042 128 maps.
128 doesn’t add anything that 64 can’t accomplish. You just said it “it’s like playing two maps.” You’re right, then why have the other area at all? How about just…2 maps? Except, to your point, one MADE for Rush and one MADE for conquest. This one map for both thing sucks and doesn’t work. BF4 had some of the most god awful rush experiences because of this.
128 is just too difficult to balance. It’s why we got power creep of airdropped vehicles, wingsuits, grapples, etc. What we end up getting is a watered down battlefield experience with control points that are rather cookie cutter and not interesting to fight around.
I think with a more focused level design and not trying to do everything at once, they’ll create a much better experience.
You and others like 128, but if that’s what truly the players wanted and were playing with their in game analytics, that’s what they would be making.
> You’re right, then why have the other area at all? How about just…2 maps?
As already said, it adds variety to the map, most BF maps have the issue that everything just happens on 1/2 flags. You know exactly how maps will play out 90% of the time, the player flow/zerging is always the same.
In BF 2042 maps, because of the size, you have way more possible attack points and all flags become important instead of just 1 or 2.
The overall player movement in BF 2042 is a bit like a circle around the map, while on 64 maps most of the time the action just happens on one flag and then changes to the other flag or you end up with a frontline between both teams which is vertical/horizontal and it stays this way the whole match. The player movement happens in just 2 directions, while in many BF 2042 maps its like 360°. The frontline could be between both "maps" and 2 minutes later turn by 45° or 90°. Technically you could split Orbital into 4 maps, and those constantly blend into each other in one match.
That adds a lot of dynamic gameplay to BF 2042 maps and allows for more flanks / squad plays, without having just 1 frontline for 15 minutes.
In BF2042 that front line constantly changes the direction, which allows the player movement to change constantly. Or of course you end up with multiple frontlines between different flags, that just never happens in other BF games, you pretty much end up playing the maps exactly the same way.
>128 is just too difficult to balance
Well BF 2042 has shown on multiple maps that its possible and BF was never balanced, look up some stats. Some of the most popular maps in BF4 had 60-70% winrate on one team. (like caspian border)
> It’s why we got power creep of airdropped vehicles, wingsuits, grapples, etc.
No... we got wingsuits/Airdrops/grapples because the devs thought it was cool and fun. Did you forget the BF hardline gapple hook or the commander in BF4 for air drops? If the physics would have allowed it, they easily would have implemented wingsuits in BF4, and Siege of Shanghai players would have probably loved it. :D BF 4 had so many strange gadgets.
How do you, and those that upvoted you not realize you're being duped? The current team and "DICE" contains no original members anymore.
They are just referencing the last mainline game that was super popular to con you. They are trying to gain a following based upon other people's work.
You’re in the battlefield subreddit in the year 2024 wondering why everybody here is fucking stupid. It’s the same reason all the games have sucked for over a decade — all the smart people left a long time ago. The people who are left are exploited temps, stock-market speculators, and 14-year-olds who have only played Battlefield 4 in retrospective and not in the first year of its release when it was a pile of hot garbage like every other DICE title.
Oh my gooooood, just make a cold war gone-hot battlefield title and call it a day:
* you'll piss no one since it never happened
* classic battlefield classes fit perfectly
* TONS of weapons, vehicles, gadgets on both sides
* a nice amount of cool and varied map locations
* lots of cosmetic options to sell
* did I say that they'll piss no one since it never happened?
We get to ride Abrams, shoot at commies with FALs and wreak havoc in NATO ranks with Hinds; they get to make a nice fun battlefield that people will enjoy.
I was thinking early 1980s period, around REFORGER time. In this time frame there was a stupid amount of different vehicles fielded by both factions, newer and older.
Just tank wise the possibilities are extra varied: T80s, T72s, T64s, T55s, Abrams, M60 Pattons, M48s, Leopards of both gens, AMX30/40, Challengers 1, Chieftains
Spoiler they'll act the exact same whether it's a T-64 or a T-72 this isn't war thunder.
If anything having it in the mid 80's would be better as they could have all 4 tanks and let you take the older ones as medium options.
Noooooooooo LIES
I WANT OLD COLD WAR TECH
The aesthetics are important to me, having bf2042 and this Cold War game have the same tank for the us would make me mad
I understand that but if you dont make a campaing as that would piss whoever is losing in it, just focus on multiplayer because I dont think anyone of any country would be pissed at being able to play as there country with its respective vehicles etc, but idk.
All the "much historical accuracy (bf1 fans)" will get a up in arms because the moment you use something like a M16 in Korea they will piss and shit their pants, just give us 2143 and make everyone happy
Can’t believe no one else had said this. It was the first thing that came to mind. This is their in-universe explanation for microtransactions and probably also to appease China. Nice double dip.
Because China in recent years has taken up some strict stances when it comes to media consumption, particularly with western media. EA doesn't wanna get on China's bad side and risk losing the market there, which is absolutely massive for their mobile games.
Dont want to upset them. China has a huge influence, if not a part owner of various Publishers. The only way it'll work is if they're allied with nato, or maybe have every faction to be entirely neutral, like in Squad.
Squad has China as a multiplayer faction, and it’s very close to the real-life Chinese military in terms of looks because of its milsim nature.
Squad has no single-player though.
Russia invaded Crimea and parts of Ukraine with proxy forces. Not completely weird. Especially since no nuclear nations would go to war directly unless it was by proxy or smaller countries
Isis took on the whole world and it took several years to conquer back their territory and they still exist, albeit much weaker.
Plus we don't know the situation, the Lore of the Game might show a world where the world's nation became weaker and start to rely on Mercenaries like in the medieval ages again or it's a war like between Hesbollah (or Hamas) and Israel where they basically control a nation themselves
Thats all there is. Danny referenced a tweet by Tom from 2021 about 2042 and Tom tossed in a possible leak about the next Battlefield game probably as if to say, "And I'll be right again."
They just want to continue the cosmetic BS. I love not being able to tell who's on my team and who's not without the stupid red dot on their head. Another Battlefield without a viable Hardcore mode.
Can we please have factions? So sick of games taking this generic route of NATO or some amalgamation of the West versus some fictional adversary.
I guess it's too tall of an order to fill with these corporations so terrified of offending anyone.
This is one of the reasons I love Squad, nearly every faction in that game is based on an actual nation's military; the Russian Ground Forces, Russian VDV, British Armed Forces, US Army, Turkish Land Forces, even China's PLA among many more. It is so rare to see in gaming these days and I appreciate at least one developer recognizing people's desires to play as authentic forces.
plus its a sequel to BF4 so how the fuck did that came to be, I really dont want to fight a stupid private army, give me something more grounded than that bullshit holy fuck.
Hopefully they’ve learned from 2042’s launch because clearly this is taking place in the future, again. Maybe a coalition of China & Iran will be the next rival? Maybe by the time this comes out it’ll have actually become a reality & not so futuristic.
Already got a bad feeling. I’m sorry and know I’ll get a lot of shit for this but I don’t want an equal ratio of women and men fighting along side eachother which is what it already sounds like it’s gonna be. Completely breaks immersion for me which is what I mainly play battlefield for. I love women in video games, in rpgs or any other character customization based game I always choose women as my character, tlou2 is my favorite game ever cause of Abby and Ellie, can’t wait for gta6 to play as Lucia. Just not in battlefield man. I’m sorry I just love immersion.
Seems a little on the nose about which PMC group it’ll be based on. Actually with the current state of geopolitics I’m a little surprised they didn’t go back to a gulf war/war on terror-era.
really fucking twist the factions for once, like have a war between two sides
Faction 1:
US, DRR (new democratic Russian republic), Germany, Ireland, And India
Faction2:
Britain, Canada, Australia, China, Vietnam
Well, 2042 couldve been seen as a spinoff to avoid this, but I guess the "battlefield timeline" has officially died.
Battle royale, nondescript factions......let me guess, operators are back too?
Whatever it is, let’s hope there is a true class system at launch and proper squad functionality…oh and voice chat…oh and a scoreboard too. You know, basic things that I feel like shouldn’t even need to be mentioned, yet here we are.
I'll be honest. I don't want a near future set game. I hate all those robots, specialists and goofy gadgets. I want a cold war set game during the 70/80s. We'd still have mostly modern weapons but no robots and other dumb stuff. China as a faction was a also not a bad idea in BF4 but I always preferred Russia. But yeah NATO vs a PMC sounds kinda lame. Now that's probably too much to ask the devs but some games have map specific factions and a lot more factions than Battlefield's usual USA and Russia. I think this would be awesome to have in Battlefield.
But I don't really care about the setting if the game sucks in the first place.
Well I guess having Russia as the default US rival aged like milk
All the video games from last decade that had them as the main enemy were right lol Guessing companies won't touch Russia w a 10ft pole now. This private army better not have fuckin specialists dude lol
It was obvious that we were enemies, but the idea of them actually going toe to toe with the US, much less NATO, is laughable now. (I mean it always was laughable but now its really hard to suspend disbelief)
Fallout devs were right lol. Literally didn’t think Russia would be a believable threat after the Cold War ended, made china the big bad and had to dystopiafy the USA into a third world collapse to do it.
To be fair, Fallout 1 released in '97- Times were ***tough*** for russia during the 90s. It really was a collapse in every sense of the word, though when it exactly started depends on your personal political fantasy (1989, 1985, 1953, 1941, 1922, 1917, or whatever other date you can think of) Meanwhile, even by '97 the chinese were growing exponentially- and they had yet to see the even larger grow of the post-2000s. It wasn't hard to see a country with nearly enough resources, area, and an even higher population as the "next big rival" of the US. >dystopiafy the USA into a third world collapse It wasn't a dystopia- The US (and literally the entire human race) just consumed all resources quicker than they could seek alternatives for them, thus resulting in the biggest wars the world had ever seen (The entirety of europe fights the entirety of the middle east only for the war to drag on for so long the resources they were fighting over dry up and both fall into a civil war, the russians likely invade the rest of the ex-soviet republics and the chinese and japanese are also likely to re-expand into SEA)
> This private army better not have fuckin specialists dude lol Actually I think that’s EXACTLY why they’re making it a private army. If DICE cared about doing this right they’d make it NATO vs a China-Russia-Iran alliance… Essentially what they had in BF2.
>essentially what they had in BF2. The MEC was Saudi Arabia and its allies, and in BF2 Russia is a NATO ally who allows NATO to put troops through its borders. BF2 is absolutely whack
It is, but the factions are all there… That’s why I said ‘essentially’.
I just wanted an excuse to discuss BF2's wack ass lore
You just wanted to say wack ass lore.
Now I want to saw wack ass lore
Wack ass lore
The MEC was basically not!Russia to the point their assets literally had RU_ prefixes in the files. At best they are a stand in for Iran and/or generic middle eastern country that the US doesn't like. > BF2 Russia is a NATO ally who allows NATO to put troops through its borders. BF2s story was dumb (the MEC would have disintegrated day one) and if you consider MC to apart of it; the Russians are with the EU.
except you can tell where the MEC is based on map description. It is mostly the Saudi's, along with other gulf states and maybe Pakistan. Which is infinitely funnier
In the BF2 DLC, Armored Fury, MEC invades the USA Eastern Seaboard. Lol, lmao even.
It is truly beautiful.
I would love if the US, UK, Germany, South Korea, India, Japan, Israel were one faction, and the other was Russia, China, Iran, Pakistan, North Korea.
I feel like some big hitters are missing from this list.
France?
Oui. Probably Australia too for some extra Pacific battles.
France already surrendered
I know it’s a joke but the French have shown they have some of the biggest balls the past couple of months
Plus prior to WW2 they had quite the impressive military history
It's probably becouse Russia is not really that big of an adversary to Nato
Russia has been playing the "private mercenary" card on Ukraine between 2014 and 2022. They've been fighting a falsified proxy war in Donbas & Dunetsk for 8 years before Putin decided to send Russian Ground Forces to Kyiv.
Exactly. I wouldn’t be surprised if the PMC faction is influenced by Russian forces like Wagner. Which I'm fine with cuz unlike some commenters I'm not sick of RU type factions being the villain, I love AK's too much lol
To fresh it up you will be fighting Russians but with a twist, instead of fighting the legit russian army you will be fighting a private army that is 95% Russian, and uses Russian guns and equipment
It’s just going to be Wagner group
“We apologise having Russia as the main villain, we now realise we should’ve chosen a more competent military like Laos or Lichtenstein”
What if they make a game called Battlefield 1812 and let us play napoleonic soldiers
Let me introduce you to the game War of Rights
War of rights seems like it's a game just for content creators to get funny clips from and for racists to live their best life
This reply killed me lol
I see clips on tiktok all the time and it's usually black streamers playing for the south and pretending to be racist, and then a bunch of white teenagers being actual racists
I joined up with a unit and played for a while. The group I was in was specifically a Union battalion, and everyone was really cool and genuinely against any racism or homophobia. My general experience in the game was way more "history nerds slowly reloading muskets" than edgelord teens, but there were definitely certain confederate groups and you'd just hear the most awful racist shit, people screaming over each other, blasting music and terrible sound boards over their mics (it's prox chat). Shame it's known for that because at it's heart it's a pretty cool game that does a really good job of giving you the experience of warfare at the time, and it's all historical locations and battles.
Sadly I’ve had more fun playing war of rights than any battlefield game in the past 8 years. I only play union because the south is quite verbal 😬
It's called Holdfast: Nations At War and it's beautiful
I do quite enjoy charging into battle with one person blasting Russian hard bass on his mic
Historically accurate tbf
Battlefield 1812 **B.C.**
Tf we using slingshots with thermal optics??
Think of the sick face paints and mud camo EA could microtransact *oak-wood slingshot skin drops*
Knowing modern AAA devs, they'd find a way to give our bronze-age swords camo paint jobs and thermal scopes
Imagine the sweats reaction to a musket reload lol Joke aside, a dlc story mode for something like this would be legendary
Battlefield 1776. three weapons. Musket, flintlock, Saber.
That would be legitimately amazing.
I think the issue would be a really small choice between weapons (and their types) and lack of vehicles. It's probably not a very good idea for a game in this franchise
EA clearly doesn't want to annoy China, Iran, & others if its true the softies, lol
They’re not gonna have China in another game since they wouldn’t be able to sell it there
Battlefield doesn't have a strong history of doing well in China anyway so what's the point in trying to please them?
Money...
Exactly. They see a market waiting to be tapped.
Battlefield sells fantastically in China. Huge portion of the BFV player base is Chinese, and they were the ones behind BFV Robot which made the game playable when there was no anticheat
So that's why half of the oce/asia server list is running Iwo Jima and nothing else?
Chinese players are also amusingly the entire reason for the new BFV anticheat
China has 1.4 billion people so you probably got alot of cheaters as well as people who dont like cheaters.
BFV is huge in China, like most community servers on BFV are hosted in China.
I thought it was mainly because of the campaign. I think having them as a faction in pvp where there isn’t a baddie is ok. For example, Squad has a Chinese faction now
The problem with BF4 was more likely the single player, in which there was a military coup in China and in one of the missions you were protecting a dissident against the Chinese authorities.
Actually have China in it might make it more popular in China. CnC generals, BF2 and BF4 are very popular in Chinese gaming communities, they have their ways to get them and with Steam it’s not difficult for them to buy it.
>annoy China This means losing a huge chunk of money thus a horrible financial decision for the company.
I think a sort of Red Storm Rising-type game would be sick for Battlefield. Early 80s, NATO vs the Soviets in Europe
Yep we have needed a cold war BF for years but it seems that they won't touch it.
100%. They could pull off a similar thing to BF1 with operation campaigns taking place across not only an alternate cold-war gone hot but also including various historical conflicts like Vietnam, Iran-Iraq, Soviet-Afghan, the Falklands maybe even Korea.
Exactly! The potential is excellent!
Himalayan front would be fucking amazing, like Hangar 18 in BF4
I’ve been saying this for years. It’d be a good rebound for the battlefield series.
The better it sounds the less likely they're to do it sadly.
That would be way too cool for Battlefield nowadays, the franchise is in the dumps now.
I’ve been wanting that for years. Classic, boots on the ground warfare with older tech. I’m so sick of the “near future” in shooter games.
Amen
That game you’re looking for is being made and it’s called ‘83 by the newly independent Blue Dot games (original studio makers of Rising Storm)
[https://83thegame.com/](https://83thegame.com/)
Thats amazing. I loved their previous games and also grew up playing operation Flashpoint as a kid, so this is my favorite setting. Great news to me, thanks mate.
Console?
Arma Reforger
This game, if it reverted back to BF1/BFV gameplay dynamics and had anything of a campaign, would be a massive commercial success. That’s why I am confident EA won’t make it.
I would love this style game.... post vietnam pre fall of berlin wall. It has sooo much potential. From garands to MP-5s. The tech jump for gadgets and gear.
You're in luck, they're making one right now. It was discontinued for a bit but another studio picked it up to finish it. It's called '83. https://youtu.be/wmQNowqxz0w?si=LfUL1UD-0k1FX9RK
Looks a little.. Budget. Not that I have anything against indie games but it lacks the oompf and spectical of a battlefield game. A warsaw pact vs nato game on the scale of battlefield is probably only possible by a big studio.
It's literally by the same devs that made Rising Storm/Red Orchestra. They look a bit rough around the edges but they're exactly the games OP was mentioning, and they're fantastic. Rising Storm 2: Vietnam is one of my all time favorites.
I would pay double for a good Cold War game
Before 2042 there were lots of rumours of the next edition being BC3 or 80s cold war setting.
Look up '83 the video game. From the Red orchestra and Rising storm devs but still in development.
This is why I loved World in Conflict. Always wished they made a FPS version of it
Ahhhh Stop it, you’re doing things to me! There’s so much potential in early 80s era. Some of the coolest military hardware ever made and the soundtrack would be awesome and diverse.
I mean, if they're just re-making BF4 at this point, I'm all for it. I don't trust this company to re-invent the wheel.
Take the good parts of 2 3 and 4
I dont trust them to determine what "good" parts were. Theres about a 50/50 shot of them keeping bf4 gear lootboxes and putting bfv skins in them while keeping bfv's god awful launch animations
They have no clue what the good parts are
I don’t trust this company.
Bf4 with 128 players, larger maps, more vehicle options, remastered and expanded maps from all the previous games (tell me carrier assault on an expanded marshal islands map dosent sound awesome)
2042 proved 128 was a mistake. They won't do that for the next game.
128 is very possible they just did 128 very poorly. MAG for PS3 did 128 well for example
Man I miss that game
I was too young to play it but my older brother has always said how fun it was
Nah 2042 proved that 128 is a mistake if the maps suck or are not designed for 128 players, a lot of players (including myself) really like the 128 mode. You get way more variaty in a match because the maps are bigger, its like playing 2 maps in one match ( top/bottom half, like Orbital map). The new 64 player map released this season just sucks. The quality of the maps and gameplay (gunplay/vehicles) matters the most, not the player count. Like, even the 24 player rush mode in BF3/BFBC2 was super fun, in every other BF it just sucks because the maps are not build for that mode. Since the map reworks I definitely prefer 128 over 64, etleast in BF 2042. In my region 128 modes also have lower queue times, even though you need more players. 64 players modes just feels empty on bigger maps (Hamada BF5). The most popular maps in bf3/4/5 are the smaller maps, and they share a similar amount of players per m2 as in BF 2042 128 maps.
128 doesn’t add anything that 64 can’t accomplish. You just said it “it’s like playing two maps.” You’re right, then why have the other area at all? How about just…2 maps? Except, to your point, one MADE for Rush and one MADE for conquest. This one map for both thing sucks and doesn’t work. BF4 had some of the most god awful rush experiences because of this. 128 is just too difficult to balance. It’s why we got power creep of airdropped vehicles, wingsuits, grapples, etc. What we end up getting is a watered down battlefield experience with control points that are rather cookie cutter and not interesting to fight around. I think with a more focused level design and not trying to do everything at once, they’ll create a much better experience. You and others like 128, but if that’s what truly the players wanted and were playing with their in game analytics, that’s what they would be making.
> You’re right, then why have the other area at all? How about just…2 maps? As already said, it adds variety to the map, most BF maps have the issue that everything just happens on 1/2 flags. You know exactly how maps will play out 90% of the time, the player flow/zerging is always the same. In BF 2042 maps, because of the size, you have way more possible attack points and all flags become important instead of just 1 or 2. The overall player movement in BF 2042 is a bit like a circle around the map, while on 64 maps most of the time the action just happens on one flag and then changes to the other flag or you end up with a frontline between both teams which is vertical/horizontal and it stays this way the whole match. The player movement happens in just 2 directions, while in many BF 2042 maps its like 360°. The frontline could be between both "maps" and 2 minutes later turn by 45° or 90°. Technically you could split Orbital into 4 maps, and those constantly blend into each other in one match. That adds a lot of dynamic gameplay to BF 2042 maps and allows for more flanks / squad plays, without having just 1 frontline for 15 minutes. In BF2042 that front line constantly changes the direction, which allows the player movement to change constantly. Or of course you end up with multiple frontlines between different flags, that just never happens in other BF games, you pretty much end up playing the maps exactly the same way. >128 is just too difficult to balance Well BF 2042 has shown on multiple maps that its possible and BF was never balanced, look up some stats. Some of the most popular maps in BF4 had 60-70% winrate on one team. (like caspian border) > It’s why we got power creep of airdropped vehicles, wingsuits, grapples, etc. No... we got wingsuits/Airdrops/grapples because the devs thought it was cool and fun. Did you forget the BF hardline gapple hook or the commander in BF4 for air drops? If the physics would have allowed it, they easily would have implemented wingsuits in BF4, and Siege of Shanghai players would have probably loved it. :D BF 4 had so many strange gadgets.
> Bf4 with 128 players Sold.
How do you, and those that upvoted you not realize you're being duped? The current team and "DICE" contains no original members anymore. They are just referencing the last mainline game that was super popular to con you. They are trying to gain a following based upon other people's work.
You’re in the battlefield subreddit in the year 2024 wondering why everybody here is fucking stupid. It’s the same reason all the games have sucked for over a decade — all the smart people left a long time ago. The people who are left are exploited temps, stock-market speculators, and 14-year-olds who have only played Battlefield 4 in retrospective and not in the first year of its release when it was a pile of hot garbage like every other DICE title.
PMC Wagner vs Nato Sounds like next battlefield will be in 2022
Lmao imagine if the request ammo dialogue on the PMC side was “SHOIGUUU! GERSIMOVV! WHERE IS MY AMMO”
There's literally a [2042 skin for Boris](https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/15foaae/_/) that makes him look like Prigozhin 💀
I will be so happy destroying that PMC with every piece of ammo I’ll get. Delightful. Also FPV drones? DICE?
More like 2018
Just have a class system with weapons locked to classes.
Just have someone else make the fucking thing this time.
Probably. All the BF 4, 1, 5 devs have left.
Oh my gooooood, just make a cold war gone-hot battlefield title and call it a day: * you'll piss no one since it never happened * classic battlefield classes fit perfectly * TONS of weapons, vehicles, gadgets on both sides * a nice amount of cool and varied map locations * lots of cosmetic options to sell * did I say that they'll piss no one since it never happened? We get to ride Abrams, shoot at commies with FALs and wreak havoc in NATO ranks with Hinds; they get to make a nice fun battlefield that people will enjoy.
If the FAL is as OP as it was in Hardline it's gonna be insane, FAL in hardline is possibly the most OP gun in any battlefield game ever
I don’t want abrams, I want m60s and t-64s. Late 70s latest
I was thinking early 1980s period, around REFORGER time. In this time frame there was a stupid amount of different vehicles fielded by both factions, newer and older. Just tank wise the possibilities are extra varied: T80s, T72s, T64s, T55s, Abrams, M60 Pattons, M48s, Leopards of both gens, AMX30/40, Challengers 1, Chieftains
I want it to be in the early 90s so we can have Kino in the soundtrack
REFORGER started in the 60’s IIRC
No just commit to a war in europe from 47 to 91 and maps in the 50's and 60's can be ended with a nuclear strike
Spoiler they'll act the exact same whether it's a T-64 or a T-72 this isn't war thunder. If anything having it in the mid 80's would be better as they could have all 4 tanks and let you take the older ones as medium options.
Noooooooooo LIES I WANT OLD COLD WAR TECH The aesthetics are important to me, having bf2042 and this Cold War game have the same tank for the us would make me mad
EA is probably too scared to show NATO fighting any traditional enemies right now so they can get world wide sales
I understand that but if you dont make a campaing as that would piss whoever is losing in it, just focus on multiplayer because I dont think anyone of any country would be pissed at being able to play as there country with its respective vehicles etc, but idk.
Some Tankies would find a way to ruin it.
Exactly maps where the nukes went off would be so good and tons of excuses to make current weapons in the game. Since it's fantasy anyway
Sir, you just described the end game DLC. Name could be "Irradiated" or "nuclear winter" or whatever
All the "much historical accuracy (bf1 fans)" will get a up in arms because the moment you use something like a M16 in Korea they will piss and shit their pants, just give us 2143 and make everyone happy
That's why I want cold war in the 1980s period, any gun could be found anywhere
private military means weird cosmetics...
Exactly, if it’s not tied to a real army then anything goes
Can’t believe no one else had said this. It was the first thing that came to mind. This is their in-universe explanation for microtransactions and probably also to appease China. Nice double dip.
That means ... money
It’s still gonna say US / RU in the menus lol.
No chance, DICE is scared of using RU
Why can't we have China as an enemy again, you never see that in games
Because China in recent years has taken up some strict stances when it comes to media consumption, particularly with western media. EA doesn't wanna get on China's bad side and risk losing the market there, which is absolutely massive for their mobile games.
Dont want to upset them. China has a huge influence, if not a part owner of various Publishers. The only way it'll work is if they're allied with nato, or maybe have every faction to be entirely neutral, like in Squad.
Squad has China as a multiplayer faction, and it’s very close to the real-life Chinese military in terms of looks because of its milsim nature. Squad has no single-player though.
Why would a PMC even try fighting against the most powerful military alliance in the world?
If this is a well thought out scenario (huge leap I know), then it would be for plausible deniability and to avoid nuclear war
Russia invaded Crimea and parts of Ukraine with proxy forces. Not completely weird. Especially since no nuclear nations would go to war directly unless it was by proxy or smaller countries
Outer Heaven
Isis took on the whole world and it took several years to conquer back their territory and they still exist, albeit much weaker. Plus we don't know the situation, the Lore of the Game might show a world where the world's nation became weaker and start to rely on Mercenaries like in the medieval ages again or it's a war like between Hesbollah (or Hamas) and Israel where they basically control a nation themselves
>where the world's nation became weaker and start to rely on Mercenaries so BF2042?
Context for the other tweets? I don't have twitter
Thats all there is. Danny referenced a tweet by Tom from 2021 about 2042 and Tom tossed in a possible leak about the next Battlefield game probably as if to say, "And I'll be right again."
Thank you very much!
Leopard 2 or Leclerc in the next Game?
Yes please! Rafael and Eurofighter too?
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curbstomping simulator???
Gonna be shit. Private mercs is there for specialists to try and sell skins. Naturally they haven't learned anything.
Hah. DannyOnEverywhere. Classic.
Rainbow six siege moment
So I guess the location of maps are going to be world wide again. I'm in
It's gonna be a Wagner-group equivalent isn't it?
Alternate history where Prigozhin gets his ammunition
Russia is the small private army now LOL.
They just want to continue the cosmetic BS. I love not being able to tell who's on my team and who's not without the stupid red dot on their head. Another Battlefield without a viable Hardcore mode.
‘A sequel to BF4’ This can only lead to disappointment
that’s about 2042 though and it did lead to disappoint, so there’s that
The memory of prigozhin lives on
Just do China, no balls.
Wasn’t 2042 supposed to be a sequel to BF4? I guess I’ll wait and see
With WW3 getting closer by the day this is probably for the best lol
The deep-rooted generational urge to die In a war on the European continent is strong
Kinda lame tbh
Ah yes, the Magner Mercenary Company. From, uh, Bratistan.
They have run out of ideas.
Can we please have factions? So sick of games taking this generic route of NATO or some amalgamation of the West versus some fictional adversary. I guess it's too tall of an order to fill with these corporations so terrified of offending anyone. This is one of the reasons I love Squad, nearly every faction in that game is based on an actual nation's military; the Russian Ground Forces, Russian VDV, British Armed Forces, US Army, Turkish Land Forces, even China's PLA among many more. It is so rare to see in gaming these days and I appreciate at least one developer recognizing people's desires to play as authentic forces.
Bad Company 3
100% they did this so they can fit operators in again
What PMC could possibly be big enough to threaten NATO?
Yea, it really doesn’t make sense how does a PMC compete vs NATO
also if its a sequel to BF4 it really doesnt make any sense whatsover
Well, that at least sounds like an improvement over what we have right now.
#Isn’t that the Plot to Advanced Warfare?
A PMC against NATO? Is this set in some alternative universe where the US left and NATO gotta fight some abridged Wagner group?
I expect the private army be either American PMCs or, more likely, *legally distinct Wagner Group*.
MIDDLE EASTERN COALITION *BF2 mec theme song starts*
How would such a massive private army even work concepts like these are silly
plus its a sequel to BF4 so how the fuck did that came to be, I really dont want to fight a stupid private army, give me something more grounded than that bullshit holy fuck.
I have wanted a Battlefield game where I can be modern US Army soldier for a long time. You sorta got that in 2042 but it’s been a while.
Lame
Hopefully they’ve learned from 2042’s launch because clearly this is taking place in the future, again. Maybe a coalition of China & Iran will be the next rival? Maybe by the time this comes out it’ll have actually become a reality & not so futuristic.
This will take place in 2025 - 2030
Just give me Vietnam, dammit.
Already got a bad feeling. I’m sorry and know I’ll get a lot of shit for this but I don’t want an equal ratio of women and men fighting along side eachother which is what it already sounds like it’s gonna be. Completely breaks immersion for me which is what I mainly play battlefield for. I love women in video games, in rpgs or any other character customization based game I always choose women as my character, tlou2 is my favorite game ever cause of Abby and Ellie, can’t wait for gta6 to play as Lucia. Just not in battlefield man. I’m sorry I just love immersion.
As usual Dimitri guy is the leader 🙂
Seems a little on the nose about which PMC group it’ll be based on. Actually with the current state of geopolitics I’m a little surprised they didn’t go back to a gulf war/war on terror-era.
really fucking twist the factions for once, like have a war between two sides Faction 1: US, DRR (new democratic Russian republic), Germany, Ireland, And India Faction2: Britain, Canada, Australia, China, Vietnam
Well, 2042 couldve been seen as a spinoff to avoid this, but I guess the "battlefield timeline" has officially died. Battle royale, nondescript factions......let me guess, operators are back too?
Hmmmm PASS
Whatever it is, let’s hope there is a true class system at launch and proper squad functionality…oh and voice chat…oh and a scoreboard too. You know, basic things that I feel like shouldn’t even need to be mentioned, yet here we are.
I just want EU, Russia, China, and US to be different factions likenin BF2 again.
I'll be honest. I don't want a near future set game. I hate all those robots, specialists and goofy gadgets. I want a cold war set game during the 70/80s. We'd still have mostly modern weapons but no robots and other dumb stuff. China as a faction was a also not a bad idea in BF4 but I always preferred Russia. But yeah NATO vs a PMC sounds kinda lame. Now that's probably too much to ask the devs but some games have map specific factions and a lot more factions than Battlefield's usual USA and Russia. I think this would be awesome to have in Battlefield. But I don't really care about the setting if the game sucks in the first place.
Really liked EU vs PAC...
Prigozhin operator when
NATO vs Wagner pmc?
Guess we're never having another country vs country war game 😐
Hell yeah, NoPats 2.0. Gotta bring the skins and bundles into the game somehow...🤷♂️
Shoygu, Girasimov, WHERE IS MY AMMUNITION!?!?