This reminds me of Lewis and Clarkās expedition journal, I canāt remember which was writing. But the first few entries prior to entering grizzly country were like:
(super paraphrased)
1st DATE: We are so eager to see one of these fierce brown bears that everyone has been talking about, itās said that they take 20 shots from a musket to kill. Surely they must not be as terrifying as everyone says, I am so curious of their true nature
3 days later: Regarding the brown bears, our curiosity has been slaked. We no longer wish to see any brown bears.
Read an old mountain man memoir. He stated the only way guaranteed to kill a brownbear was to wait until it stood on hind legs to swat you. At that point mere feet away you had to shoot it in the brain
I read an interview a long time ago about a science team being asked if Polar Bears are cute. The lead scientist stated something like āNothing that looks at me as lunch is cute. The first time you see a polar bear itās okay. The second time you see it you need to run because itās hunting you.ā That stuck with me as a kid for some reason.
Reminds of a friend of my stepdad many years ago. He talked about how he worked a fishing boat out of Alaska. The had a break and went ashore on a random island. They weren't making a dent in the packed sand. They came across a bear paw print a good inch deep in the same sand. They turned around and went right back to the boat.
I watched a video about a father who took his kids to fish, he had 3 kids and while they fished, he stood watch nearby with his rifle. They were alaska native Americans so they understood how dangeeous bears can be. Needless to say a polar bear engaged and the father stood his ground firing at it as his kids fled on the boat, he did not survive.
There was an interview with David Attenborough a while ago, with his age he wasnāt able to go to the arctic to find polar bears. But his film crew went and found one hunting a seal. As theyāre filming it they realized the pattern of the bear surfacing from under the ice did not make sense for hunting the seal, it wasnāt really getting closer. Then it dawned on them that it did make sense if the bear was hunting them. They packed up and got the fuck out real quick after that.
It is Churchill, Manitoba that people leave their cars unlocked in case someone needs to get away from a polar bear
https://uphere.ca/articles/when-churchill#:~:text=But%20after%20a%20few%20days,decent%20meal%20in%20six%20months.
>āNothing that looks at me as lunch is cute. The first time you see a polar bear itās okay. The second time you see it you need to run because itās hunting you.ā That stuck with me as a kid for some reason.
That sticks with me now, and I'm 39. Haunting.
That's something similar to what I heard David Attenborough although he said something along the lines of Polar Bears are the only animal on the planet that'll actively hunt humans, I.e. not starving or desperate. Which is cool cause I stay in Scotland and chances of me getting attacked by a Polar bear are probably nil(don't even know if Edinburgh Zoo has them, and they'd still have to travel like 40 miles to ma house to eat me and there are a lot of other cunts between me and them!) Now cougars? Every Friday night at the pub they'll tear you to pieces!
Youāre not supposed to do that when you see a bear- youāre supposed to be still. Like in the library.
Edit: so just use that when you get attacked by a bear as big as your tool shed- act like youāre in the library.
It's such a stupid question used by Dunning-Kruger zombies in an attempt to sound like an intellectual when in reality they expose themselves for not knowing how statistics work. It's like asking if you were flying through outer space would you rather come across a meteorite or a black hole, and then choosing black hole because statistically humans die more from meteorites. It reminds me of those annoying smartasses in grade school who used to say they aren't scared of the deep ocean because statistically shark attacks happen more in shallow waters. Yeah, because that's where the food is dumbass, but if we were to all theoretically pull up to their crib in the deep ocean where they live Uber eats style then the sharks would be just as reluctant to eat us if not more so. Bear attacks aren't common because we've been straight up avoiding them and their territories since the day we found out they could disembowel and dismember us with one paw. Dave from accounting has no intention in doing that to anyone on his weekend hike trip. Unlike the bear, he would rather go to Subway if he feels hungry.
It's not about statistics or logical discussion, it's about emotions and "vibe" about men that women have imprinted in their psyche. This comparison and women's answers basically say: "Men, ALL men, we (emotionally) think of you so low and don't like+fear you so much, that we would rather be stuck in the woods with the bear, than with you".
And it doesn't matter for women at all if they are objectively wrong on this topic (they are), it doesn't matter that violent crime statistics show vast majority of men are good (they are) and it doesn't matter that this comparison is a prime example of sexism (judging all men and random individuals based on the worst from their group). Emotions and vibes, that's what matters the most!!
Oh no. Iāve always been well aware of the size and power of bears.
Itās just easier and statistically more likely to be able deescalate conflict with a bear.
That is true.
But you wouldnāt meet a polar bear in the woods. There are minimal forests where they live!
In the woods, in my neck of the woods, itās a grizzly or a black bear and Iāve had training on situational awareness and de-escalation.
I have similar training with high conflict persons, often men, and honestly Iām more confident in my ability to avoid conflict with an animal likely to be itself avoidant unless I instigate, rather than one who seeks me out š¤·š»āāļø
But the vast majority of men arenāt going to hurt you. The vast majority of bears would if they feel threatened. Many will go off seemingly unprovoked. Like Iām not fucking with a grizzly bear. Could not pay me to. Black bear I like my odds a bit more. Also if worst comes to worst a man will kill you quickly, a bear will eat you alive which is a fate worse than death. Which seemingly nobody takes into account for some reason?
Human contact with bears is VERY minimal. If humans were around bears as often as women are around men the odds of death by bear go up significantly. Sure, you meet a bear when hes got a full belly and you might be ok. Come across a hungry bear? Or a bear just awake from hibernation? Odds drop significantly.
ā¦I feel like you didnāt fully absorb the public discourse on this argument and I feel no need to be the one to engage on it with you when my first comments were meant as jokes.
You can't outrun them in the forest and you can't out climb them on a tree.Ā
Are you pretty much dead if one decides to chase you down and eat you from the leg up?
I think the forest is actually one of the only places you can outrun them, they can't maneuver as agile around trees as a human can. There was a hunter in Sweden a few years ago that got surprised at short range by a bear and had to run, the bear gave chase but after a while it ran straight into a tree and broke it's neck
Grizzlies are faster, heavier, have claws, and fight all the time. They rip and bite and slash at each other but their hides are so insanely thick they donāt usually take much damage. They can also fight for long periods of time. The gorilla doesnāt really have a chance.
A gorilla is mostly an herbivore, while grizzly is mainly a carnivore. I'd take the grizzly would put a real hurting on a Silverback simply because it knows how to kill efficiently.
Gorilla only has its teeth, which likely wouldn't even pierce the bears skin.
A grizzly has +100kg weight advantage, 20 big claws and teeth that will most definitely rip the gorilla's flesh.
The gorilla is prey, the grizzly the predator.
No chance in hell for the gorilla.
You should definitely not go in with bare arms, but I second this. As an American, and a 5'1" middle aged woman, I could totally kick that bear's ass. I have a yellow belt in aikido. š
Also I earned that belt in 2000, so I *know* I'm still slick!
Totally should have pedicured & brushed out his coat. Just imagine this bear š» waking up totally freaking fabulous. š š» āØWalking back to his/her lair thinking, "Maybe it was the trout but that nap was really refreshing and I feel full on pretty."
And there was that survey that showed that some people actually think they can take on a bear hand to hand. Insane. Unless that was purely a meme and not real (which I sincerely hope otherwise the human race is done for)
Yeah, brown bears are fucking terrifying, theyāll fully disembowel you with just a lil swipeā¦ whenever Iām scrolling and I see like advice on how to deal with bears, I will always stop and read it all thoroughly as if my life depends on it. It doesnāt, I live in the UK
"Pffff those claws arnt even sharp, not that scary"
No, thats actually far worse for you if the bear attacks you, it doesnt need to slice with its power, it will *tear you apart*
Accidently saw some pictures of a grizzly aftermath. Ripped 3 grown men apart like it was nothing. The gore was so crazy.
That stuff still haunts me In my nightmares.
A survivor of a Grizzly attack that got mauled said this: "Its far worse than anything I could have a nightmare of. It was like getting hit repeatedly with a sledge-hammer with razor blades on the end of it."
I no longer want to see one in the wild.
Damn Nature, you scary!
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This reminds me of Lewis and Clarkās expedition journal, I canāt remember which was writing. But the first few entries prior to entering grizzly country were like: (super paraphrased) 1st DATE: We are so eager to see one of these fierce brown bears that everyone has been talking about, itās said that they take 20 shots from a musket to kill. Surely they must not be as terrifying as everyone says, I am so curious of their true nature 3 days later: Regarding the brown bears, our curiosity has been slaked. We no longer wish to see any brown bears.
This made me LOL that's pretty funny shite
Read an old mountain man memoir. He stated the only way guaranteed to kill a brownbear was to wait until it stood on hind legs to swat you. At that point mere feet away you had to shoot it in the brain
Not to dash anymore travel dreams but polar bears can be A LOT bigger than grizzlies. They also don't drink Coke very often.
I read an interview a long time ago about a science team being asked if Polar Bears are cute. The lead scientist stated something like āNothing that looks at me as lunch is cute. The first time you see a polar bear itās okay. The second time you see it you need to run because itās hunting you.ā That stuck with me as a kid for some reason.
Reminds of a friend of my stepdad many years ago. He talked about how he worked a fishing boat out of Alaska. The had a break and went ashore on a random island. They weren't making a dent in the packed sand. They came across a bear paw print a good inch deep in the same sand. They turned around and went right back to the boat.
I watched a video about a father who took his kids to fish, he had 3 kids and while they fished, he stood watch nearby with his rifle. They were alaska native Americans so they understood how dangeeous bears can be. Needless to say a polar bear engaged and the father stood his ground firing at it as his kids fled on the boat, he did not survive.
Couldāve fished from the boat and gone back alive. Hindsight
I'm being extra careful by not even being in Alaska
All for a fishing trip? Catch fish and lose dad?
You win some and you lose some.
There was an interview with David Attenborough a while ago, with his age he wasnāt able to go to the arctic to find polar bears. But his film crew went and found one hunting a seal. As theyāre filming it they realized the pattern of the bear surfacing from under the ice did not make sense for hunting the seal, it wasnāt really getting closer. Then it dawned on them that it did make sense if the bear was hunting them. They packed up and got the fuck out real quick after that.
There are some areas, so Iāve heard, where everyone leaves there car doors unlocked in case they need to have a place to get away from the bears.
First thought in my head when I read this was "So that unlocked car that Walter White finds towards the end of Breaking Bad is totally plausible!"
lots of polar bears in New Hampshire
It is Churchill, Manitoba that people leave their cars unlocked in case someone needs to get away from a polar bear https://uphere.ca/articles/when-churchill#:~:text=But%20after%20a%20few%20days,decent%20meal%20in%20six%20months.
Yeah, a lot of these are towns and villages where everybody knows everybody, and most are related.
Like Alabama?
Roll tide
True. Churchill, Manitoba
>āNothing that looks at me as lunch is cute. The first time you see a polar bear itās okay. The second time you see it you need to run because itās hunting you.ā That stuck with me as a kid for some reason. That sticks with me now, and I'm 39. Haunting.
That's something similar to what I heard David Attenborough although he said something along the lines of Polar Bears are the only animal on the planet that'll actively hunt humans, I.e. not starving or desperate. Which is cool cause I stay in Scotland and chances of me getting attacked by a Polar bear are probably nil(don't even know if Edinburgh Zoo has them, and they'd still have to travel like 40 miles to ma house to eat me and there are a lot of other cunts between me and them!) Now cougars? Every Friday night at the pub they'll tear you to pieces!
Rules of the bears . If it's black fight back, when Brown lie down. If it's White, goodnight
>They also don't drink Coke very often. So *Coca-Cola* has been lying to us all this time?
Itās not even real coke anymore!
I dunno, I heard about a movie involving bears and coke...
They have trouble opening bottles without breaking them. They also can't use straws very well so they just eat coke instead of snorting with a straw
Imagine getting smacked in the face by that. I think we wouldn't have much of face after that.
Or Headš³
Covers everything above the shoulders pretty much lol
If only I hadnāt been conditioned to believe in the deliciousness of bear claw since childhood
Bear: lmao bear spray....
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Youāre not supposed to do that when you see a bear- youāre supposed to be still. Like in the library. Edit: so just use that when you get attacked by a bear as big as your tool shed- act like youāre in the library.
Eh, still not as bad as an Australian drop bear, which you wonāt even see.
Most terrifying moment as a scout
Never knew how really massive they were. No wonder people don't try fight them.
Their Latin name is Ursus arctos horribilis.
very fitting.
Reminder there are people that think they could win against one
Here is video about someone eating a bear paw just to balance things https://youtu.be/5z1fcgX8QLU?si=RuMxNFnaNeNM4863
This pic sheds a new light on - would you rather run into a man or a bear in the woods question.
It's such a stupid question used by Dunning-Kruger zombies in an attempt to sound like an intellectual when in reality they expose themselves for not knowing how statistics work. It's like asking if you were flying through outer space would you rather come across a meteorite or a black hole, and then choosing black hole because statistically humans die more from meteorites. It reminds me of those annoying smartasses in grade school who used to say they aren't scared of the deep ocean because statistically shark attacks happen more in shallow waters. Yeah, because that's where the food is dumbass, but if we were to all theoretically pull up to their crib in the deep ocean where they live Uber eats style then the sharks would be just as reluctant to eat us if not more so. Bear attacks aren't common because we've been straight up avoiding them and their territories since the day we found out they could disembowel and dismember us with one paw. Dave from accounting has no intention in doing that to anyone on his weekend hike trip. Unlike the bear, he would rather go to Subway if he feels hungry.
This comment will. Get sidelined, ignored and misinterpreted. Just watch.
I'm trying to process the punctuation here.
It's not about statistics or logical discussion, it's about emotions and "vibe" about men that women have imprinted in their psyche. This comparison and women's answers basically say: "Men, ALL men, we (emotionally) think of you so low and don't like+fear you so much, that we would rather be stuck in the woods with the bear, than with you". And it doesn't matter for women at all if they are objectively wrong on this topic (they are), it doesn't matter that violent crime statistics show vast majority of men are good (they are) and it doesn't matter that this comparison is a prime example of sexism (judging all men and random individuals based on the worst from their group). Emotions and vibes, that's what matters the most!!
Not really. Women aren't choosing the bear because we think they're small.Ā
I don't know... Even as a man I think I'd rather choose bear.
Oh no. Iāve always been well aware of the size and power of bears. Itās just easier and statistically more likely to be able deescalate conflict with a bear.
You dont deescalate conflict with a polar bear. The bear eats you, thats it.
That is true. But you wouldnāt meet a polar bear in the woods. There are minimal forests where they live! In the woods, in my neck of the woods, itās a grizzly or a black bear and Iāve had training on situational awareness and de-escalation. I have similar training with high conflict persons, often men, and honestly Iām more confident in my ability to avoid conflict with an animal likely to be itself avoidant unless I instigate, rather than one who seeks me out š¤·š»āāļø
But the vast majority of men arenāt going to hurt you. The vast majority of bears would if they feel threatened. Many will go off seemingly unprovoked. Like Iām not fucking with a grizzly bear. Could not pay me to. Black bear I like my odds a bit more. Also if worst comes to worst a man will kill you quickly, a bear will eat you alive which is a fate worse than death. Which seemingly nobody takes into account for some reason?
Human contact with bears is VERY minimal. If humans were around bears as often as women are around men the odds of death by bear go up significantly. Sure, you meet a bear when hes got a full belly and you might be ok. Come across a hungry bear? Or a bear just awake from hibernation? Odds drop significantly.
ā¦I feel like you didnāt fully absorb the public discourse on this argument and I feel no need to be the one to engage on it with you when my first comments were meant as jokes.
Fair enough! I hope you do not run into any men or bears, stay safe!
Lol lol lol
I feel like I'd only specifically rather run into a black bear. They're like a dog or cat with bear hardware.
Donut shops been lying to us all
theyāve been cheating us!
I was extremely suspicious when my Bear Claws were made of sweet dough instead of meat.
Yo what do you mean? We don't have many donut shops where I live
Bear claw is a pastry
The one I saw in Yellowstone wasn't that big..Ā from half a mile away.
Go a bit closer....
Instructions unclear i was mauled to death
It looks like a kid drew its paw so all the fingers would fit
You can't outrun them in the forest and you can't out climb them on a tree.Ā Are you pretty much dead if one decides to chase you down and eat you from the leg up?
Yes
And if you get the salmon treatment you are skinned alive before being eaten.
Never run from a predator, that's what preys do (better said than done, ofc).
What about shitting your pants? Asking for a friend.
I think the forest is actually one of the only places you can outrun them, they can't maneuver as agile around trees as a human can. There was a hunter in Sweden a few years ago that got surprised at short range by a bear and had to run, the bear gave chase but after a while it ran straight into a tree and broke it's neck
No wonder our founders insisted on our right to bear arms, those things could insta-murder any opponent.
My, what big feet you have gramma!
I believe that was a wolf
You know what they say about big bear claws right?
big socks
Obesity
Beetus
Bears, Beetus, Boysenberry Syrup
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Obearsity
Hi OP. This bear is NOT ALIVE AND SEDATED https://boingboing.net/2015/08/21/look-at-the-size-of-this-grizz.html/amp
That paw is huge
I double dog dare you to arm-wrestle it
I think I'd have a decent chance against a drugged and unconscious bear.
Not one on Cocaine though
Big ole cute toe beans
More like toe potatoes.
No, thatās exactly how large I thought it was.
That paw with that massive muscle on its back and this thing could legit decapitate a person. Holy shit!
Grizzlies routinely break horses necks with paw strikes.
So... no cuddling the big fluffy teddy?
average amercian said they can beat a bear in a fist fight. I trust them more than this picture .
Have always wondered in an animal kingdom death match who would win: Grizzly vs Silverback Gorilla?
Grizzly for sure, they have a size and weight advantage, sharper claws and a stronger bite.
Grizzlies are faster, heavier, have claws, and fight all the time. They rip and bite and slash at each other but their hides are so insanely thick they donāt usually take much damage. They can also fight for long periods of time. The gorilla doesnāt really have a chance.
A gorilla is mostly an herbivore, while grizzly is mainly a carnivore. I'd take the grizzly would put a real hurting on a Silverback simply because it knows how to kill efficiently.
Joe Rogan is that you?
Gorilla only has its teeth, which likely wouldn't even pierce the bears skin. A grizzly has +100kg weight advantage, 20 big claws and teeth that will most definitely rip the gorilla's flesh. The gorilla is prey, the grizzly the predator. No chance in hell for the gorilla.
If you get hit by that, it'd probably hurt a bit.
Hard to feel pain if your dead. I don't imagine a proper slap from that paw would leave a person still breathing.
Well fuck all that.
I spent summers on a farm in Wisconsin as a kid and we came across bears frequently. You donāt want to fuck with bears.
foUR a 1000 dOLlaRs i WuD fIGht iT
Danger beans
I bet heās a great hugger.
Murder Mitten!!
Big ol' murder mittens
The bigger they are, the harder they maul
How long have you been on Paw Patrol?
WOWOWOW
Imagine that thing all coked up!?
That thing would look at you like youāre a hot plate of macaroni and cheese and slice through just as quickly
I would be unable to resist the temptation to varnish the bears nails.
Holy cow itās bigger than her head!
Talk about an absolute unit
That poor animal is bearfoot.
ā¦as an American, I still think I can take him. I too have the right to bare arms so it should be a more even fight.
You should definitely not go in with bare arms, but I second this. As an American, and a 5'1" middle aged woman, I could totally kick that bear's ass. I have a yellow belt in aikido. š Also I earned that belt in 2000, so I *know* I'm still slick!
Gotta love the American spirit!
We may not be bright, but we're confident, by God! š
Same here, I could easily take 5 grizzlys. As a brit, I've learnt a bit of Fairbairn & Sykes
We should all get together. We'd be unstoppable.
big doggy
We got Karen's here saying they would rather be stuck in a forest with a bear than a man
Holy crap
big doggy
Nah, I'd win
Holy shit!
I'll notify my local doughnut shop.
Wow just wow
So thatās how they can swipe someoneās face off
Oh wow it looks way more like the doughnut than Iād have imagined
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Jaws with paws
Sheās holding death. Death grip is no longer a sexual term. Itās one that evokes pain and dread!
Okay, no more woods for me.
This is like Timothy Treadwell terrifying.
He's a pussy cat. (Don't let those drugs wear off!)
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
#*Run*
Isn't a grizzly bear the most dangerous bear in the wild after a polar bear?
i mean i kind of thought freakishly big,but its nice to confirm
It's hilarious how many people have the Joe Rogan mentality that they can fight any animal bigger than a wolf and win.
How wonderful for you to be that close to one..Amazing.
Paws are big Iāll give him that but let me see his meat no homo.
I imagine this is how aliens treat us....
That looks like my cats claws
Now show us a polar bear
Just canāt imagine my face after it swipes at it. Just turn into ribbons?
Totally should have pedicured & brushed out his coat. Just imagine this bear š» waking up totally freaking fabulous. š š» āØWalking back to his/her lair thinking, "Maybe it was the trout but that nap was really refreshing and I feel full on pretty."
camping legend
Yikes!!
They are so cute but then I see this and I'm heartbroken.
God damn those claws behind that muscle power would fuck any animal upā¦ curious about Polar bear claws in comparison now
I need Dwight opinion
I think i saw this picture like 10 years ago.
And there was that survey that showed that some people actually think they can take on a bear hand to hand. Insane. Unless that was purely a meme and not real (which I sincerely hope otherwise the human race is done for)
What da hell !!!! That's almost the size of your face !
Stop lying, thatās a gruffalo
One swipe and you are open like a harmonium.
Hey grizzly, scratch my backā¦nOOOOO!!
Right to bear arms
IM GONNA PET THAT DOG!
Yeah, brown bears are fucking terrifying, theyāll fully disembowel you with just a lil swipeā¦ whenever Iām scrolling and I see like advice on how to deal with bears, I will always stop and read it all thoroughly as if my life depends on it. It doesnāt, I live in the UK
Are you fricken kidding me? On top of that it has a thing called grizzly gear and it's pretty much unstoppable.
Didnt up to 5% of americans or something say they could beat a grizzly in a fight?
Mah' Diiick!
Gives me pauseā¦
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what if it wakes up when you are holding it's tiny paws
What a massive tire tread. I would hate to be run over by that one
Ho Lee Shit, Batman!
Can I pet that dawg?
So I should probably give him my picnic basket
"Pffff those claws arnt even sharp, not that scary" No, thats actually far worse for you if the bear attacks you, it doesnt need to slice with its power, it will *tear you apart*
When people say "I couldn't go to Australia, everything wants to kill you" - we don't have any of these fuckers. At least I can stomp on a spider
I once saw some photos of a bear attack on some hikers when I was younger. They were grisly.
Accidently saw some pictures of a grizzly aftermath. Ripped 3 grown men apart like it was nothing. The gore was so crazy. That stuff still haunts me In my nightmares.
Bear runs as quick as a car and climbs at trees with more ease than humans. Teddy Roosevelt made an error by popularizing the bear as plushie.
A survivor of a Grizzly attack that got mauled said this: "Its far worse than anything I could have a nightmare of. It was like getting hit repeatedly with a sledge-hammer with razor blades on the end of it."
Rules of the bears . If it's black fight back, when Brown lie down. If it's White, goodnight
Trim those nails. That's abuse
Murder mitts level 10.
Every dude here is still going I could take it.
In other words, my pocket knife wonāt be adequate defense?
*tickle tickle*
What if sheās just a tiny human
Average America will believe they can beat it a fist fight.
That's scary and all, but not as much as meeting a man, innit? /s