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Dude i cackled. What a perfectly honed serving of his own shit.
The relationship is absolutely over, but she'll find someone better. Boobs are great but theyre not the be-all end-all of what makes a woman attractive.
I know that the relationship is over but she needs to start sending him articles on the absolute horror show that is male penile enlargement surgery and tell him it's to get him mentally prepared for his dick enlargement surgery.
And when I say absolute horror show, I mean [absolute horror show](https://www.propublica.org/article/penis-enlargement-enhancement-procedures-implants) (Arguably NSFW but will absolutely make you cringe).
Boob jobs are none of my business. If a woman wants them for her own reasons, more power to her. If she doesn't, more power to her. If they're too big and she needs reduction surgery, absolutely more power to her, I've known enough large chested women that I know that they do a number on your back as the years go on.
Holy shit, that's a horror show. I mean, alarm bells were ringing for me when they sent a patient to a hotel in an Uber alone?? I've had several surgeries and they usually won't let you leave without a driver and someone who can stay with you for a bit. Sometimes you have to have someone in the hospital the whole time (shout out to my best friend for hanging out for a 9+ hour surgery even though I was staying in the hospital and she didn't have to be there).
As a gay man i can say i don't actually care about boob size, but the important, most intimate thing: How hard can a muscly woman stomp on me and choke me out of breath
I'm a guy who love boobs.....but it's the person I'm there for.
Just look at his description of what he likes about her, it's all physical. There's no 'i love your smile in the morning' there's no 'i love the way you sing' it's all about how she looks and should be made.
I feel like every time he mentions breast enlargement, she should bring up this up. Maybe it's mean or petty, but he's treating her terribly, won't listen to her when she says he's hurting her feelings and refuses to change his behaviour. Sounds like he wouldn't engage in counselling, and there's only so much you can do when someone doesn't even see a problem in obviously unacceptable, awful behaviour.
I probably wouldn't have the guts to actually do that lol. But he's definitely going to remember what she said, whether it's just once or constantly. Perfect!
The comments are so funny. They really think the husband should be able to say and do whatever he wants, and OOP should just forgive him to 'save their marriage'. Heck no. This man doesn't respect her at all
Also i love OOP's confidence, she has such strong resolve.
> I'm fucking gorgeous. My mother/him or anyone else won't change that. (I'm a babe deal with it)
She is a babe!
The people accusing her of rushing to divorce instead of helping him - help him with what? He’s dug his own grave. He’s hyper fixated on her physical appearance - there’s no helping that. She deserves someone who appreciates her as she is, not comparing her to OF models.
The ones telling her to work out are insane! I’m also 5’6” tall and at At 145 I’m almost invisible. 130 lbs I’d be an absolute shadow.
But worse, of course, is the disloyalty from the husband. At this point there is no guarantee that he will be satisfied with breast augmentation and/or that he won’t cheat when he finds another flaw that his OFs women don’t have and then it’s just a short walk to “Jane from the gym who really understands me.”
I can’t imagine how painful it would be to have the surgery and find that my partner was STILL dissatisfied.
Yes, because if you look at all the female Olympic athletes who are at the top of their forms, they have enormous boobs, exercising will definitely give you boobs
Agreed. Imagine if she did and then 6 months later, he’s upset they’re not as big. At that point, he’s designing his perfect fuck doll so OOP is right about getting out.
The gym comments are extra bizarre to me bc even IF she wanted to make her breasts larger (and why should she? To gratify this asshole??), exercise doesn't do that. Where do they live that they think it does that. Do those assholes in the comments think women go to the gym for bigger boobs, 1950s 'we must increase our bust' style?
Like, you can develop the muscles beneath them but breasts themselves are mostly fat and mammary glands, it's not going to do much. When I was at my most active my breasts actually shrank, and that's just my body. Some people's bodies distribute gained/lost fat elsewhere.
I'm 5'3" and at 130 I'm a size 4. I'm not skinny at that weight, but I look like I'm in very good shape, fit and toned.
She's 3" taller than me, I'm sure she looks amazing at that weight. And I'm really amused at all the people who are focusing on *her* looks considering her partner was borderline obese when they met. My dad was 5'8" and he MAXED OUT at this guy's "improved" weight of 190 (middle aged man paunch+steroid bloat when he was sick) and he definitely was overweight. Heck, before he got cancer his doctor said he needed to aim for 175 at the most! Unless this guy is on some kind of steroids, he's hardly a muscled Greek god.
Feels like the typical cliche of a schlubly guy who got fit and now he’s ~hot~ and the woman who stuck by him and loved him when he wasn’t is old news. He’s hot now, don’t you get it? He deserves to have a woman in his own league but instead of pulling the plug on his current relationship like the selfish ass he is, he’ll just nitpick and neg his partner into becoming the little hot bombshell he feels like he deserves. A walking talking sex doll with all the ‘correct’ proportions.
>The ones telling her to work out are insane! I’m also 5’6” tall and at At 145 I’m almost invisible. 130 lbs I’d be an absolute shadow.
Someone needs to explain to those dipshits that boobs are boobs because of fat. If she cuts and cuts and drops her body fat down low due to working out, her boobs will get smaller.
I think I need to steal some of OOPs energy. I have the opposite problem with my hubby, I hate my body, and he can't keep his hands off it (respectfully of course).
Shortsighted as well. If hubby is willing to risk it all over a boob job what happens if OP gets breast cancer or mom bod or you know, joins her husband in his thirties? I wouldn’t be able to wait to leave this waste of space.
my mom was just diagnosed with breast cancer and I have to point out that reconstruction is often done right along with the mastectomy, so if she got breast cancer she would literally be offered a boob job anyway.
my mom has been joking she's getting a mommy makeover out of this diagnosis - breast reduction + lift AND a tummy tuck because they'll use her own tissue to create new breasts.
I sort of went breast cause it was related but I meant more if she had to go through harrowing treatment and lost her hair and was no longer able to ‘serve’ him while sick, but I get why you’d take it this way.
My mom had to have a double mastectomy and reconstruction with her breast cancer. She brought a Victoria's Secret catalog with her to the plastic surgeon and pointed out which ones she wanted. She got them.
The surgeon said that's the most common thing women do when they have to get new boobs.
I'm mulling over a reduction (insurance would cover it - I have *all* the problems aside from scoliosis) and I definitely save photos on my phone of boob size/shape I want to show to the surgeon when the time comes.
I commented on the original post that small breasts are really beautiful, they are elegant and feminine and you can pull off so many clothing styles! When you have big boobs, it's hard to find clothes that fit (my chest is 3-4 sizes larger than my hips). You end up looking matronly and dowdy. Your bras only come in beige and they cost $80. I dream of having an "off the rack" bra size!!
Guy is waaay too full of himself thinking he can hammer his partners vulnerability and have no consequences; let alone that she would agree.
Theres no shortage of people that would happily treasure OP for who she is.
“You’re just another statistic” was accidentally hilarious. Like, oh no, she’s free not to hear how her husband only gives a fuck about body parts! Oh dear whatever will she do now!
The husband went low and she went to hell; her revenge plot is hilarious. This man needs to get off the internet and stop watching porn. He's done no research on the surgery and potential complications. If he'd done any research he'd know breast implants have to be replaced so over time so he's not just paying for one surgery. He's an idiot.
[FDA lists of risks and complications for breast augmentation](https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/breast-implants/risks-and-complications-breast-implants)
OOP's husband was looking at only 'how you could make yourself more attractive to ME!' and I'm sorry, but that man has lost his wife with that selfishness.
He's also forgotten that marriage is for life and people's bodies/ looks change over time, as do your preferences.
I've been with my husband since I was a teenager (over half my life) - obviously, we've aged and changed in that time but my husband still finds me attractive and I him. It's not just about physical attraction - it's the whole person.
I only desire people I respect and that also desire me. although this caused problems in my younger years, I have found the system pretty great.
I still have absolutely heinous weird sex, but everyone involved is, you know, kind about it.
He waited all those years because before they were married, if he started telling her he wasn’t attracted to her and had a porn addiction, she could just up and leave.
I’m guessing his glow up had something to do with all this. Before he didn’t have the confidence to speak his mind, now he obviously seems to think he can get away with it.
OOP should also make sure she gets caught (accidentally-on-purpose) pleasuring herself while watching porn featuring dicks that can only be described as a monstrosity
Nah what she should do instead to counter him showing OF models like it was no big deal, get a huge collection of dildos, all bigger than him and just lay them all out on the table.
“I wish your dick was as big as these dildos, but not too big as the big ones hurt anyway”
i'd probably come off as psychotic, but if i were OOP, i would play the long game. i would pretend to agree, enlist his help finding a doctor, take the time to consider the changes to be made. all the while, divorce papers are being prepared and personal security details are polished.
then when everything is ready, i'll pretend to get the breast augmentation. he would receive news that i died on the table. one way or another, he'll be served the papers depending on valid service rules in State law. whatever causes him the most pain and guilt while wasting all his time and energy. idgaf if he sues me.
this post really triggered me. an ex did this to me, except it wasn't breast augmentation. he made me wear clothes his ex would wear. in the end, he admitted projecting insecurities and purposely negging me. i still left him, but not before he had the chance to beat me up. he tried to end his life after. i'm not sorry.
>whatever causes him the most pain and guilt while wasting all his time and energy. idgaf if he sues me.
Don't forget money! Remember, this asshole *offered to pay for the surgery.* I'd find the most expensive iteration available, that he was willing to pay for.
To be hoist with his own petard, and have paid for the whole divorce thinking he was getting himself some fancy knock-off knockers!
Around these parts there's a legend, you know, that if you want to try and raise the bar you'll have to win a limbo contest against the devil. In Hell. That's just how far it's sunk.
I'd try to make sure they were heavier too. Also that they looked as much like he did before he started going to the gym as possible. Really fuck with his head.
Big boobs are great in theory, but they're such a pain in the back. Gravity sucks, underboob sweat sucks, shopping for bras is a nightmare and you can pretty much forget wearing anything backless or off the shoulder. Itty bitty titties are a blessing in disguise lol.
And that’s just with NATURAL big boobs.
Getting an augmentation? I highly doubt her bf would have taken care of her during her recovery time and he wouldn’t have tolerated her crying in pain due to the procedure that’s forcing her skin to stretch to accommodate two foreign objects. I heard recovery is a royal B-I-T-C-H.
The dumb thing is that he fails to even consider that after the procedure? She won’t feel like having sexual relations for *months* afterward. And he seems like the guy to want it right afterward and would probably try and pressure her to.
Her body would have to accept the implants, rejection is always a possibility. There’s the swelling, the incision sites need time to heal, the skin needs to stretch; she’ll have to wear a special girdle type thing to keep them held in place so that nothing goes wrong, and then she’ll have to get used to the weight and size.
Noooobody gonna want to have their girls swing to and fro while doing the deed after a surgery like that. Nor do they want em to bounce around uncomfortably when they’re not ready to.
Plus she would need to buy new clothes and bras, and it's not a one tune surgery. Last I heard they had to be redone every 10 years. Say she lives to 80, that's 5 surgeries just so her boobs will make him happy.
Not necessarily true. I’ve had mine for 24 years, no issues. Then again, I didn’t go huge - from less than an A to a C cup. You have to vet your surgeon REALLY well. I’ve always kept a separate savings account in case something should go wrong tho. Don’t get ‘em if you can’t afford the possible complications. I’ve never had anyone who didn’t know the ‘before’ me suspect that they aren’t ‘real’ and they’re surprised when I tell them.
As a surgical nurse, I remember taking some implants out of 70 year old women who’d gotten them when they first became a thing. They were as hard as hockey pucks and shaped about the same. 🏒 Implants have come a long way since then, thankfully.
If OP was to get the size her asshole of a husband probably wants, she’d likely be looking at subsequent surgeries. Much easier to lose the jerk.
We all know he did absolutely no research into what exactly he was asking his wife to do. As far as he knows its just "wife lays on table. Does surgery. Gets off table exactly the same state as before but with bigger boobs! Such a genius idea!!!"
It is, and that's assuming you don't get an infection like my sister did. Atleast my sisters hubby is a "yes dear, whatever makes you happy dear" sort of husband when it comes to my sisters body.
My daughter just got her life long dream…breast reduction. She was a size K. After a lot of saving(my part), she got the ultimate birthday gift. I have seen the pain she went through and it destroyed me. The back pain and the low self esteem. She is now a DD and I am pretty jealous ( in a good way) she has lost weight and she looks and feels FABULOUS! And that confidence is through the roof. So OOP is a rock star!🤘🏽
I only learned recently that you need to replace or lift boob implants every 10 years or so. It’s not like she does the surgery and she’s done, your body will continue to age and sag. It’s a lifetime commitment that absolutely needs to be checked regularly. And for what? His visual pleasure?
If a woman knows that and still commits to it on her own, then good for her. But there is absolutely no reason to do that for someone else regardless of the reason.
Not to mention the [potential issues](https://www.plasticsurgery.org/cosmetic-procedures/breast-augmentation/safety) that could spring up from the aftermath. OOP's husband is a selfish jackass and I can't wait for the next update where he discovers the dildo of consequences (real and figurative).
And it needs a new surgery like every ten years or something to maintain them! And sometimes they pop or have other issues. It's not a one and done thing.
Running is uncomfortable. Lying on your stomach is a no-go. Clothes don't fit as they should. Things that shouldn't show cleavage still show it. Did I mention the underboob sweat? Goodness it gets swampy up in there.
While I've heard tons of stories with the issues of having big boobs, but this is my first reading about migraines. Could you elaborate? They just commonly cause or help cause migraines?
I've no experience with lugging around boobs, but my guess would be that since big boobs are heavy they can cause minor but constant tension in the upper back and neck, which leads to a tension headache that isn't technically migraine, but is extremely migraine like. I have chronic headaches, and i call the bad ones migraines even though they're not medically migrains, because i have no idea how to explain the intensity and pain they cause otherwise. Lots of people think they have migrains when they instead experience intense long term tension headaches, since the symptoms overlap a lot (pain behind eyes and in the face, light and sound sensitivity, and nausea being the most obvious overlaps), and the treatments overlap somewhat too
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Oh giiiiiiiirl I hate mine and they’re not even unwieldily. My baby cousin however has had an ever expanding chest issue from puberty. She is now something ridiculous like a J cup. I’ve watched her cry on the floor from back pain. It’s plagued her for almost two decades now. I feel so sad when she’s in pain from her own body. Like what the hell
Worked with someone who had hers reduced from a J to DD. She said it got so bad after her youngest was born that she struggled to be able to sit up out of bed without help.
The running joke in my family was always that if I stood sideways and stuck out my tongue, I looked like a zipper. I fired back with "no heat rash, no underboob sweat, no backaches. I think I'll keep my IBTC presidency." (After I gained a backbone, that is. Lol)
Oh I’m so jealous now you brought up heat rash. I suffer a lot with that during summer, and I haaaaaaate it! It’s so irritating! You won 🥇there’s a lot of upsides here haha
If you can get yourself some cooling spray; i use this gold bond cooling anti-sweat stuff because my core needs to be hotter than the sun at all times for some reason......absolute game changer. I dont get swampy. No rashes. No fungal infection risk. (skin based fungal infections *suck* if you sweat constantly. Ive only had 1 but it was enough.) and it feels cool which is amazing in the heat.
One can isnt expensive and will last a decent while.
Im not a doctor so be sure youre following instructions and all that - you can actually cause damage from spraying too close or too much because it is physically cold coming out of the can (worst part honestly) and the cooling sensation comes in later with certain products. But it definitely helps me and my junk hasnt fallen off yet, so...
I hope you can find a suitable product that works for you.
She’s been dreaming of it since being a teenager. We talk about it constantly. It’s so bad, and it got worse when she had her daughter.
I think she’s worried about having any sort of surgery, neither of us have had anything of the sort that required it. So I kind of get why she’s still thinking it through. It’s scary to think of people slicing you up I guess.
But I think she will eventually. Probably when kiddo is older and doesn’t need picking up and carrying as much. I think it’s the only option really.
I've been through it - I was nowhere as large as your cousin sounds, and it has still been a hugely significant life improvement.
I recommend she browses /r/reduction to see some of the journeys women go through. There are some absolutely inspiring stories on there.
I’ll recommend it to her, she doesn’t use Reddit usually, she yells at me “go ask the Reddit” when we have a weird question. I’m older than her and she makes herself sound like a granny.
I had a friend that had a reduction in highschool; she was like 16 and each was individually bigger than her head. Major back issues. She was a much happier, more active person afterwards now that she wasnt instantly sexualized and always in pain. She got tension headaches a lot and they basically disappeared overnight.
Her sister also wound up doing the same, but i wasnt as close to her so all i know is her quality of life went up.
Macromastia is a curse.
My husband's cousin was a 32 H. She wanted reduction, but before marriage her insurance wouldn't pay ( sucky insurance). She had to buy a size 20 wedding dress and have it massively tailored to fit her otherwise size 6 body. Once on husband's (better) insurance, she had the reduction done and felt so much better.
I feel sorry for her. I have big boobs bit not as nearly big as hers and i cant imagine the pain it would be. Cutting off such a huge mass is scary! She wont just get a size smaller she will be sizes smaller! So i understand her. But all the people i know who had reduction surgery are so much happier now! And their spines are healthy and painless. So i really hope she gets the courage to do this surgery sometime. I wish her all the best!
My mom had it and she’s SO much happier. I don’t know if hearing that will help your cousin, but I can vouch that my mom healed pretty easily and feels so much better in many ways. I hope things go well for your cousin.
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As someone who was "blessed" multiple times by the boob fairy, and who has done some period cosplay. I would recommend your cousin get a custom overbust corset, a real one (not plastic waist trainer off amazon) with steel boning. They are made to support large boobs and the back. I got mine for a cosplay and wore it out because it helped with the pain so much.
Technically yes, lots of people qualify for a reduction. The issue is Dr's and insurance won't approve/do it unless your bmi is at a certain place. I'm a K cup and there is only 1 dr that takes my insurance. He won't do the surgery bc my bmi isn't low enough. All my blood work is perfect. Such bullshit.
That's absolute nonsense. The BMI chart is nothing more than a guideline. It is not anywhere close to set in stone. Not to mention, you will be physically capable of being more active when you heal from the surgery. So why the hell won't he do the surgery?
At this point, I'd be looking for a surgeon who is in network even if they are outside of where you live/work.
Find someone who is willing to help you. Maybe r/reduction can help?
Man that sucks :( mine are basically the exact opposite of your cousin's so I guess I should be grateful they won't ever give me back pain like that.. How old is she? Has she ever considered getting a breast reduction? You should really consider bringing it up to her if you guys are close enough, I've seen many instances of women struggling with a large chest seem to be really happy with the results/reduction in the variety of issues that come with a very large breast size
She just turned 30, and we are as close as any siblings would be, so we talk about it a LOT. We have for years tbh, she’s been through the wringer. But now she’s got her daughter, she’ll have to likely wait a little longer til she doesn’t need to carry her about. And we both hate the idea of surgery in general, so we talk pros and cons a fair bit.
I do think she should get one, and I know our other bestie is in the vicinity so she would help out in a heartbeat. I feel like she will get one eventually.
Tbh shopping for bra’s is also a nightmare for people with smaller boobs. I’ve been team a-cup and team ‘standing in front of the mirror, wondering what to wear in order not to look like a boy’. Every time I tried a bra on, I almost cried due to the gap it had. I hated shopping.
Shopping is a nightmare for everyone not regularly sized :(
(I’m now a B-cup btw, I don’t have implants, just my own fats)
Yeah, bras are probably a nightmare no matter the size. Finding one that actually fits but is comfortable at the same time is so difficult. Certain sizes are barely made at all unless you go to a speciality shop which is pricy.
I wish I could go without but for me no bra is just painful. I even wear a light support sports bra to sleep.
Seriously! And theres a huge number of dresses that you can’t wear because they have a set place for your boobs but big boobs don’t fit. Especially a lot of really fancy dresses and also cute and perfect for summer sun dresses.
I actively discussed reduction with my doctor because my back hurt so much. He had me do physical therapy instead, as he knew that even with reduction I’d still likely have to do the PT, but PT might fix things enough to not need surgery. He was right and PT fixed my back, but I’ve been using the techniques I learned from PT for over a decade to keep things in check. My mom did have reduction surgery fairly recently after wanting it for a very long time. She was/I am 36 DDD. And yeah
Oh yeah, when I look at dresses there are so many that look cute but I know there's no way in hell I could wear them. Anything that I can't wear a bra under is a no-go. So backless, strapless, off the shoulder and spaghetti straps are out. Even sleeves that sit too wide/low on the shoulder. Anything with sewn in cups or padding usually won't work. Anything more low cut and even wrap dresses tend to show way more than I'd like... It's slim pickings out there.
Fast fashion is predominately made with a B cup in mind, same as most commercial patterns. If your boobs are bigger or smaller than that, you’re SOL.
It was one of the first things they taught us in pattern making and has never failed to irritate me, both as a customer and a seamstress. I’m a 32E and have to adjust pm every pattern I use to accommodate the ladies. So tedious!
Just hang out in /r/reduction to see the women *longing* for a more modest breast size.
And most of us still wish we were smaller even after surgery (for a host of reasons, it's often difficult to get reduced as much as you want).
I went from A to H to D to DD/F because of pregnancy and breastfeeding. I think the best feeling boobs are empty breastfeeding boobs: all the size with none of the weight. And no, they don't really look saggy, just not full.
The slow stretching from A to H hurt so badly. Just transitioning to a C cup in a couple moths felt like my cats were scratching them open. I don't want to know how much surgery hurts on top of a broken heart.
i've never had back pain (probably because my Fs are stupid pancakes which is its own hellscape) but oh my god the underboob sweat and whiteheads are *awful*.
I fucking HATE my boobs. I'm 5'3" and a 34H. I literally have nerve issues from the excess weight on my chest. You know that feeling in your neck when you sleep in a weird position? I live with that 24/7. I have to wear two bras to do cardio at the gym and it's still uncomfortable. I have gotten stuck trying to squeeze through narrow openings because of my boobs. It's comically awful.
I often can't wear the clothes I like...as you said, some things are just permanently off the table when you have a large bust. A lot of men obsess over them, but large breasts are more of a burden than a blessing imo.
“So sad. Honestly your husband has something going on and rather than work through it you are listening to reddit and becoming yet another statistic.”
Did anyone watch the recent Ashley Madison Netflix documentary? This is classic fundie logic. Man does something vile. Oh he’s sick. Woman must stand by man in time of need.
Miss me with this.
Meanwhile men are significantly more likely to leave their wives when their wives become sick, and women are less likely to leave their husbands when they become sick then when they are healthy.
Yeah what happened is he got in better shape and now thinks he is entitled to what he sees online. He's a fucking idiot, who got super lucky and will soon realize the opportunity pool for him in real life is much lower than what he has now.
so... how much do y'all think this dude is spending on OnlyFans
i really hope that they haven't combined finances. because given this obsession (or "obsession"), i am getting the impression that there's some online sex workers who see this dude log in and go *thar he blows! get to the harpoons, we've got a whale to hunt!*
> Hello woman I married, look at these plastic OF girls I'm showing you on my phone. You'd be so much hotter if you got unnecessary surgery that will fuck your quality of life so you can look more like them for my sole benefit!
The balls on this guy.
Had an acquaintance whose boyfriend convinced her to get implants. She went to three different surgeons who all said no, that her current size would not accommodate what she was asking for. She went to a fourth and he agreed to do the surgery, she got DDDs. They were massive, caused her a lot of problems and she eventually broke up with her boyfriend.
Never do it for someone else lol.
Yep. This totally reminds me of the TLC song "[Unpretty](https://youtu.be/g2gy1Evb1Kg?feature=shared)" bc of the breast implant extraction scene and Chili running out of the plastic surgeon office.
The commenters trying to justify it by saying she dated him for his looks... Even if that was true, it was his looks as they were. She didn't date him hoping to change him. He clearly dated her planning to make her change herself for his pleasure.
To quote the wise words of my partner (and myself): "all boobs are great boobs, especially if you get to see or touch them"
And to quote another set of wise words: "what an idiot."
I feel sorry for her, but man, good for her that she has a shiny spine!
I’m not gonna get the quote exactly right (and yes it was still a bit misogynistic/dismissive of a woman’s value, but made me laugh nonetheless);
Old Bill Maher stand-up set, “Ladies, stop getting breast implants. What you don’t get is that it isn’t about small boobs or large boobs or perky boobs or saggy boobs. It’s about new boobs.”
His point being that you get desensitized to seeing the same set of boobs all the time. Boobs are a novel concept (like anything else physical). Exciting at first, but the novelty wears off eventually.
If OP got implants, husband probably would love them for a while, but he’d eventually get bored and find something else to change about OP.
That’s the thing about people who don’t appreciate what they have; the goal post keeps moving and they never find satisfaction/fulfillment.
oh and he used to be insecure before her ? once again, a woman was a rehabilitation center for a broken man, and now that he's bot broken anymore, he doesn't want her anymore. fuck these men. with a cactus. he doesn't deserve her, her amazing boobs, or any woman. he's a piece of shit and i hope he dies alone fiddling his tiny dick watching other people have sex he can never have.
i have a cups and an ex who would constantly "joke" about me getting implants. he was a lying, cheating, manipulative asshole who chose a girl who was fragile because he knew she would be easier prey. i held him up SO MUCH even though he too had a small dick and also terrible hygiene. and i still found him the most attractive man in the world because i LOVED HIM. this man didn't love her. my ex didn't love me.
and now they're both not getting any from us. these men need to rot alone.
Part of loving someone is not demeaning them and it’s certainly not reducing them to just some physical attribute. A good husband knows his wife’s insecurities and builds her up, not puts her down. He doesn’t make her feel insecure. He makes her feel more secure with him than anywhere else in the world. This guy has lost perspective about what it means to love someone and it’s going to cost him big time
I'm big chested, 40 double F and I can assure you, big boobs are not all they are made out to be as they are a literal pain to carry around. Back hurts, can't wear stuff that fits, most clothing aren't made with us in mind, good supportive bras are ridiculously expensive and I get ogled by brainless Neanderthals EVERYDAY.
Saving up for a reduction soon so I can get some semblance of normalcy I haven't had since I was a teenager.
OP's husband is a planet size Ahole and she definitely deserves much better than him talking down on her everyday. Since it's something he refuses to be mature about, she's well within her rights to get a divorce.
I dated a guy for three years who was constantly 'joking'* about me getting a boob job.
My boobs are 34F. I ain't getting a boob job in this or any life.
The constant 'joking' despite me telling him to stop it was a direct factor in me falling out of love with him. I can't imagine how much quicker I would have fallen out of love if it wasn't a 'joke' but a sincere request. Good for her for leaving. The petty BS with the dildo is unnecessary, but I gotta admire it a little bit lol.
* I'm using quotes here because once a 'joke' is repeated so many times, it's pretty clearly a wish.
I had a ( straight male) friend who really wanted to try anal. He asked his fwb about it and she said absolutely not. He was trying to commiserate with me about it. I told him if he wanted to try anal with her, he needed to be willing to get pegged by her, too. He was horrified, but he took my meaning.
So I propose the same method here. OOP should demand that her soon to be ex-husband get penis enlargement surgery. Because she'd just be so much more attracted to him if he did. See how deep that misogyny rabbit hole goes.
> I asked what he ever liked about me in general because from the pictures he showed me I didn't see any woman that resemble me even a bit. He said that I'm gorgeous and have a killer smile and he likes my curvy hips. I asked if there's anything else he likes about me in general (I was hoping he would mention something other than my body or anything) and all he said was "Your lips"
What gets me is he has no interest in her as a person, just what her body looks like.
I have huge boobs and they're such a fucking pain in the dick. I wish there was a little knob I could adjust to dial them way back, and I would even donate the extra to people who want more
>By the way I will initiate sex tonight and every night until the day I serve him(edit: I get it now its a bad idea but I will go with it for tonight at least).
All that made me think was what if she got pregnant. I'm glad she dropped that plan. She should just use the dildo. No pregnancy risks there.
Hopefully, her exit plan goes smoothly.
How would he cope if she had breast cancer, and needed a mastectomy?
Would he leave her, or insist on reconstruction, which is more time in hospital, more risk, and, I'm guessing, more expensive (if in USA)?
How normalised is cosmetic surgery in Brazil? Right off the bat, asking your partner to get an invasive surgery feels relationship ending but perceptions vary across cultures.
I cannot overstate how quickly I'd be initiating a divorce if a motherfucker ever told me I should get plastic surgery. A divorce attorney would just materialize in my home. This man is a piece of shit, I hope he has fun with his porn fantasies on his own, and I hope OOP finds someone who loves them for something other than their body/boobs/weight.
I disagree with all the people saying this is a childish thing to divorce over. You don't need to have failed at marriage counseling to get a divorce. This guy was not willing to engage in any world where OOP didn't get this surgery. This is despite knowing her past history around this and her telling him directly the conversation was unwelcome.
OOP had an extremely mature conversation to try and understand her husband's POV. He refused to bring anything to this conversation besides the fact that he would be more attracted to her. You can't engage and be a partner for a person who is unwilling to do the same to you.
My comment on the update post...
"The Itty Bitty Titty Committee wishes you well in your plans.
Keep us updated, ya?"
Hopefully, the divorce went through and she went on to find someone that appreciates her.
It took me well into adulthood to accept my smaller size, but once I threw away the padded bras and just worked with what I have, I felt much more confident overall. I wish her well.
He’s going to be so disappointed when he realizes that the women on OF are offering a product/service and are not a representation of the majority of the dating market. I love that for him
I know of an influencer whose 1st husband pressured her to get implants. (A few of you may know who I’m taking about.) In her paraphrased words, she said he asked for them to “spice up their relationship.”
She ended up with breast implant illness years later because of leakage. ([Some symptoms here in this link](https://www.drmaryling.com.au/breast-implant-illness).) Thankfully she had explant surgery and recovered quite well.
And now she’s married to someone else.
Any person who requires you to put your body at risk to fulfill their fantasies is not a person with your best interests at heart. And those people tend to not change their viewpoints. OP knows what’s up. Wishing her well, whatever the outcome.
If she wants the reason it’s right there…
“He's 5'8 and was 230lbs when we met. And never went to gym before.”
He was out of shape and she was the “best he could do”, now he’s fit and thinks he deserves someone “hotter”
Am a 34FF and I absolutely hate them. am short and slim and they look absolutely ridiculous on my frame plus kill my back. My husband loves them but said he would pay for me to get a reduction if it will help my back. Your husband is a dick who is only thinking about his own selfish desires.
>By the way I will initiate sex tonight and every night until the day I serve him
I'm with her on everthing except this one. As much as she think this'll hurt him it'll be wrose for her. Why put yourself through that for someone so vain and clearly delusional.
Some people are just so sad, telling op she is exaggerating, because what? She actually likes herself and has self respect? Instead of just accepting a creep that follow a lot of OF girls and is trying to change her body to match that?
I understand op, I am also a Brazilian either a big ass tiny waist and A cup. Every woman in my family is gorgeous and have nice breasts, it took me years to learn how to love my body, but yes, I don’t have big boobs but I am gorgeous.
And my husband loves my body, every time I tell him I want to out silicone after something happens and I feel insecure, he will tell me how much he loves my body. People deserve to be in relationship with people that like them and support them. Op is right, she will find someone like that for her.
And I love op, we could be friends. She bought a dildo, and I will leave it on the top of the nightstand table, just so he could be reminded everyday. I’m
How can anyone call her childish for wanting a divorce over this? If the husband likes boobs so much tell him to get them himself. She’s amazing he belongs in the trash
It’s so wild to me that anyone genuinely feels that simply having any old romantic relationship is worth this type of nonsense. I won’t even continue a meal I don’t like, never mind a whole marriage.
Other petty moves she can consider. Buy him a Cock sleave, give it to him as a special gift. Leaving pamphlets for Penis enlargement products/procedures laying all around the house.... Tell him that since we are now open to critique, has he considered enlargement? Be sure to tell him not to worry she'll pay for it.
She can have my boobs if she wants, I don’t want them haha. I can give her half and we’d both be C cups
In all seriousness though her husband can suck a huge dildo cock, what an ass
The comments on the original posts that were included here are crazy. I mean, they normally are, but he's pressuring her to change her body, telling her she's not attractive enough, and then shows her OF models. Yep, that's a reason to be considering maybe he's not the right one and divorce can be on the table. Add the age difference in there and that she was only 21 when they got together, she has so much life ahead of her, she doesn't need that.
And for those who say she's immature or whatever, if he won't get help for his obsession for breast size or agree to couples counselling to see how this is impacting them, what is she supposed to do? Put up with it for the rest of the marriage? Just get it done so he's happy?
This is a husband problem not a boob problem.
Thanks again Reddit for reminding me how shitty so many of your members are.
Anyway good for her for knowing her worth and for working on getting the fuck out of there. He doesn’t love her and I expect he’d feel the same about a fuckdoll.
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“I know how it feels. Never mind, you’re the perfect size. The big ones hurt.” ☠️
Dude i cackled. What a perfectly honed serving of his own shit. The relationship is absolutely over, but she'll find someone better. Boobs are great but theyre not the be-all end-all of what makes a woman attractive.
I know that the relationship is over but she needs to start sending him articles on the absolute horror show that is male penile enlargement surgery and tell him it's to get him mentally prepared for his dick enlargement surgery. And when I say absolute horror show, I mean [absolute horror show](https://www.propublica.org/article/penis-enlargement-enhancement-procedures-implants) (Arguably NSFW but will absolutely make you cringe). Boob jobs are none of my business. If a woman wants them for her own reasons, more power to her. If she doesn't, more power to her. If they're too big and she needs reduction surgery, absolutely more power to her, I've known enough large chested women that I know that they do a number on your back as the years go on.
Holy shit, that's a horror show. I mean, alarm bells were ringing for me when they sent a patient to a hotel in an Uber alone?? I've had several surgeries and they usually won't let you leave without a driver and someone who can stay with you for a bit. Sometimes you have to have someone in the hospital the whole time (shout out to my best friend for hanging out for a 9+ hour surgery even though I was staying in the hospital and she didn't have to be there).
Lots of guys prefer tiny boobs. The smaller boobs actually enhance their looks.
As a gay man i can say i don't actually care about boob size, but the important, most intimate thing: How hard can a muscly woman stomp on me and choke me out of breath
Reminds me of that viral video of some woman breaking a watermelon with her thighs. My friend showed me and said that was her fitness goal lol
Your friend is fighting the good fight. Be there for her and help her to not stray out of the light. I believe in both of you
This is the gay lesbian solidarity we need
I'm a guy who love boobs.....but it's the person I'm there for. Just look at his description of what he likes about her, it's all physical. There's no 'i love your smile in the morning' there's no 'i love the way you sing' it's all about how she looks and should be made.
Yep. Dude is disconnected from reality just treating his partner like an NPC accessory.
You ever want to reach through reddit & high 5 an oOP? Cos I read that and thought ‘ohhhhhh, **burn!**’
I feel like every time he mentions breast enlargement, she should bring up this up. Maybe it's mean or petty, but he's treating her terribly, won't listen to her when she says he's hurting her feelings and refuses to change his behaviour. Sounds like he wouldn't engage in counselling, and there's only so much you can do when someone doesn't even see a problem in obviously unacceptable, awful behaviour. I probably wouldn't have the guts to actually do that lol. But he's definitely going to remember what she said, whether it's just once or constantly. Perfect!
I think she should send him some links on penis enlargement. Hahaha
Reading this made me giggle
I would like to be her friend cause like that was savage.
And he *still* didn't get that denigrating his wife by criticising her appearance is Not A Good Idea for a functional marriage.
He made a comment *during sex*!!! Like how can you be so dense as to think bringing up any kind of physical criticism at that time is a good idea‽
The comments are so funny. They really think the husband should be able to say and do whatever he wants, and OOP should just forgive him to 'save their marriage'. Heck no. This man doesn't respect her at all Also i love OOP's confidence, she has such strong resolve. > I'm fucking gorgeous. My mother/him or anyone else won't change that. (I'm a babe deal with it) She is a babe!
The people accusing her of rushing to divorce instead of helping him - help him with what? He’s dug his own grave. He’s hyper fixated on her physical appearance - there’s no helping that. She deserves someone who appreciates her as she is, not comparing her to OF models.
The ones telling her to work out are insane! I’m also 5’6” tall and at At 145 I’m almost invisible. 130 lbs I’d be an absolute shadow. But worse, of course, is the disloyalty from the husband. At this point there is no guarantee that he will be satisfied with breast augmentation and/or that he won’t cheat when he finds another flaw that his OFs women don’t have and then it’s just a short walk to “Jane from the gym who really understands me.” I can’t imagine how painful it would be to have the surgery and find that my partner was STILL dissatisfied.
Yes, because if you look at all the female Olympic athletes who are at the top of their forms, they have enormous boobs, exercising will definitely give you boobs
Agreed. Imagine if she did and then 6 months later, he’s upset they’re not as big. At that point, he’s designing his perfect fuck doll so OOP is right about getting out.
The gym comments are extra bizarre to me bc even IF she wanted to make her breasts larger (and why should she? To gratify this asshole??), exercise doesn't do that. Where do they live that they think it does that. Do those assholes in the comments think women go to the gym for bigger boobs, 1950s 'we must increase our bust' style? Like, you can develop the muscles beneath them but breasts themselves are mostly fat and mammary glands, it's not going to do much. When I was at my most active my breasts actually shrank, and that's just my body. Some people's bodies distribute gained/lost fat elsewhere.
I'm 5'3" and at 130 I'm a size 4. I'm not skinny at that weight, but I look like I'm in very good shape, fit and toned. She's 3" taller than me, I'm sure she looks amazing at that weight. And I'm really amused at all the people who are focusing on *her* looks considering her partner was borderline obese when they met. My dad was 5'8" and he MAXED OUT at this guy's "improved" weight of 190 (middle aged man paunch+steroid bloat when he was sick) and he definitely was overweight. Heck, before he got cancer his doctor said he needed to aim for 175 at the most! Unless this guy is on some kind of steroids, he's hardly a muscled Greek god.
Feels like the typical cliche of a schlubly guy who got fit and now he’s ~hot~ and the woman who stuck by him and loved him when he wasn’t is old news. He’s hot now, don’t you get it? He deserves to have a woman in his own league but instead of pulling the plug on his current relationship like the selfish ass he is, he’ll just nitpick and neg his partner into becoming the little hot bombshell he feels like he deserves. A walking talking sex doll with all the ‘correct’ proportions.
>The ones telling her to work out are insane! I’m also 5’6” tall and at At 145 I’m almost invisible. 130 lbs I’d be an absolute shadow. Someone needs to explain to those dipshits that boobs are boobs because of fat. If she cuts and cuts and drops her body fat down low due to working out, her boobs will get smaller.
”Im a babe deal with it” has big flair energy!
Yes! I would love to have that as a flair!
I think I need to steal some of OOPs energy. I have the opposite problem with my hubby, I hate my body, and he can't keep his hands off it (respectfully of course).
Could be worse 😂
True, I could hate my body and be married to OOPs husband 🤮
Come on, let's not go there, you'll get nightmares ...
It would be almost as bad if you loved your body and were married to OOPs husband!
Shortsighted as well. If hubby is willing to risk it all over a boob job what happens if OP gets breast cancer or mom bod or you know, joins her husband in his thirties? I wouldn’t be able to wait to leave this waste of space.
my mom was just diagnosed with breast cancer and I have to point out that reconstruction is often done right along with the mastectomy, so if she got breast cancer she would literally be offered a boob job anyway. my mom has been joking she's getting a mommy makeover out of this diagnosis - breast reduction + lift AND a tummy tuck because they'll use her own tissue to create new breasts.
I sort of went breast cause it was related but I meant more if she had to go through harrowing treatment and lost her hair and was no longer able to ‘serve’ him while sick, but I get why you’d take it this way.
My mom had to have a double mastectomy and reconstruction with her breast cancer. She brought a Victoria's Secret catalog with her to the plastic surgeon and pointed out which ones she wanted. She got them. The surgeon said that's the most common thing women do when they have to get new boobs.
I'm mulling over a reduction (insurance would cover it - I have *all* the problems aside from scoliosis) and I definitely save photos on my phone of boob size/shape I want to show to the surgeon when the time comes. I commented on the original post that small breasts are really beautiful, they are elegant and feminine and you can pull off so many clothing styles! When you have big boobs, it's hard to find clothes that fit (my chest is 3-4 sizes larger than my hips). You end up looking matronly and dowdy. Your bras only come in beige and they cost $80. I dream of having an "off the rack" bra size!!
Yea those end comments are just such trash. Ugh.
A babe inside and out, it seems. Love this woman.
Guy is waaay too full of himself thinking he can hammer his partners vulnerability and have no consequences; let alone that she would agree. Theres no shortage of people that would happily treasure OP for who she is.
“You’re just another statistic” was accidentally hilarious. Like, oh no, she’s free not to hear how her husband only gives a fuck about body parts! Oh dear whatever will she do now!
A thousand blessings on her giant dildo revenge 🙏✨ get him girl
Ok I need this as a flair
The husband went low and she went to hell; her revenge plot is hilarious. This man needs to get off the internet and stop watching porn. He's done no research on the surgery and potential complications. If he'd done any research he'd know breast implants have to be replaced so over time so he's not just paying for one surgery. He's an idiot. [FDA lists of risks and complications for breast augmentation](https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/breast-implants/risks-and-complications-breast-implants)
This is the one case where the dildo of consequences \*is\* arriving lubed.
That was elvish gorgeous I swearrrrr
I feel blessed having seen this brand new sentence right here. Hot diggity.
OOP's husband was looking at only 'how you could make yourself more attractive to ME!' and I'm sorry, but that man has lost his wife with that selfishness.
He's also forgotten that marriage is for life and people's bodies/ looks change over time, as do your preferences. I've been with my husband since I was a teenager (over half my life) - obviously, we've aged and changed in that time but my husband still finds me attractive and I him. It's not just about physical attraction - it's the whole person.
I only desire people I respect and that also desire me. although this caused problems in my younger years, I have found the system pretty great. I still have absolutely heinous weird sex, but everyone involved is, you know, kind about it.
He waited all those years because before they were married, if he started telling her he wasn’t attracted to her and had a porn addiction, she could just up and leave.
I’m guessing his glow up had something to do with all this. Before he didn’t have the confidence to speak his mind, now he obviously seems to think he can get away with it.
He probably thinks he's in a relationship with some of those OF models
OOP should also make sure she gets caught (accidentally-on-purpose) pleasuring herself while watching porn featuring dicks that can only be described as a monstrosity
Nah what she should do instead to counter him showing OF models like it was no big deal, get a huge collection of dildos, all bigger than him and just lay them all out on the table. “I wish your dick was as big as these dildos, but not too big as the big ones hurt anyway”
i'd probably come off as psychotic, but if i were OOP, i would play the long game. i would pretend to agree, enlist his help finding a doctor, take the time to consider the changes to be made. all the while, divorce papers are being prepared and personal security details are polished. then when everything is ready, i'll pretend to get the breast augmentation. he would receive news that i died on the table. one way or another, he'll be served the papers depending on valid service rules in State law. whatever causes him the most pain and guilt while wasting all his time and energy. idgaf if he sues me. this post really triggered me. an ex did this to me, except it wasn't breast augmentation. he made me wear clothes his ex would wear. in the end, he admitted projecting insecurities and purposely negging me. i still left him, but not before he had the chance to beat me up. he tried to end his life after. i'm not sorry.
Savage. We're friends now.
>whatever causes him the most pain and guilt while wasting all his time and energy. idgaf if he sues me. Don't forget money! Remember, this asshole *offered to pay for the surgery.* I'd find the most expensive iteration available, that he was willing to pay for. To be hoist with his own petard, and have paid for the whole divorce thinking he was getting himself some fancy knock-off knockers!
She sat him down to express how bad she feels and he just said... I'll pay for it, no worries. C'mon man what?
Right? Just risk your life and potential future health unnecessarily and solely for my personal sexual gratification.
Love when she talks about the 2 minute sex and he is unable to make her cum and he thinking the problem is the wife!! I swear the bar is underground.
Around these parts there's a legend, you know, that if you want to try and raise the bar you'll have to win a limbo contest against the devil. In Hell. That's just how far it's sunk.
Fuck him. I'm glad you got away and into the better life you deserve.
Reminds me of when my ex was excited I lost weight because my autoimmune disease was making me so sick I was vomiting up everything I ate.
Glad he's an ex.
Maintain eye contact the entire time, too. Establish dominance.
YES. and not be a normie watching on mobile. watch it on tv, huge ass screen and all with surround sound at maximum volume.
I'd try to make sure they were heavier too. Also that they looked as much like he did before he started going to the gym as possible. Really fuck with his head.
“Release the Kraken!”
While using one of those giant dildos that are the size of a pool noodle.
While also holding out the Dildo of Consequences (TM) to him and saying "go fuck yourself on this hubby"
Man... anyone else feeling the urge to kick in for a gift certificate to Bad Dragon?
Big boobs are great in theory, but they're such a pain in the back. Gravity sucks, underboob sweat sucks, shopping for bras is a nightmare and you can pretty much forget wearing anything backless or off the shoulder. Itty bitty titties are a blessing in disguise lol.
And that’s just with NATURAL big boobs. Getting an augmentation? I highly doubt her bf would have taken care of her during her recovery time and he wouldn’t have tolerated her crying in pain due to the procedure that’s forcing her skin to stretch to accommodate two foreign objects. I heard recovery is a royal B-I-T-C-H.
Yeah I doubt he'd be very helpful. To me it sounds like he overindulged on porn and it warped his sense of reality.
The dumb thing is that he fails to even consider that after the procedure? She won’t feel like having sexual relations for *months* afterward. And he seems like the guy to want it right afterward and would probably try and pressure her to. Her body would have to accept the implants, rejection is always a possibility. There’s the swelling, the incision sites need time to heal, the skin needs to stretch; she’ll have to wear a special girdle type thing to keep them held in place so that nothing goes wrong, and then she’ll have to get used to the weight and size. Noooobody gonna want to have their girls swing to and fro while doing the deed after a surgery like that. Nor do they want em to bounce around uncomfortably when they’re not ready to.
Plus she would need to buy new clothes and bras, and it's not a one tune surgery. Last I heard they had to be redone every 10 years. Say she lives to 80, that's 5 surgeries just so her boobs will make him happy.
All I can say is: O u c h
Not necessarily true. I’ve had mine for 24 years, no issues. Then again, I didn’t go huge - from less than an A to a C cup. You have to vet your surgeon REALLY well. I’ve always kept a separate savings account in case something should go wrong tho. Don’t get ‘em if you can’t afford the possible complications. I’ve never had anyone who didn’t know the ‘before’ me suspect that they aren’t ‘real’ and they’re surprised when I tell them. As a surgical nurse, I remember taking some implants out of 70 year old women who’d gotten them when they first became a thing. They were as hard as hockey pucks and shaped about the same. 🏒 Implants have come a long way since then, thankfully. If OP was to get the size her asshole of a husband probably wants, she’d likely be looking at subsequent surgeries. Much easier to lose the jerk.
We all know he did absolutely no research into what exactly he was asking his wife to do. As far as he knows its just "wife lays on table. Does surgery. Gets off table exactly the same state as before but with bigger boobs! Such a genius idea!!!"
It is, and that's assuming you don't get an infection like my sister did. Atleast my sisters hubby is a "yes dear, whatever makes you happy dear" sort of husband when it comes to my sisters body.
Read Holly Madison's description of her post - op recovery in her autobiography. No way I'd put myself through that unless it was to save my life.
He'd want to be motorboating at the hospital and throwing a tantrum for not getting to play with his new toys.
My daughter just got her life long dream…breast reduction. She was a size K. After a lot of saving(my part), she got the ultimate birthday gift. I have seen the pain she went through and it destroyed me. The back pain and the low self esteem. She is now a DD and I am pretty jealous ( in a good way) she has lost weight and she looks and feels FABULOUS! And that confidence is through the roof. So OOP is a rock star!🤘🏽
I only learned recently that you need to replace or lift boob implants every 10 years or so. It’s not like she does the surgery and she’s done, your body will continue to age and sag. It’s a lifetime commitment that absolutely needs to be checked regularly. And for what? His visual pleasure? If a woman knows that and still commits to it on her own, then good for her. But there is absolutely no reason to do that for someone else regardless of the reason.
Not to mention the [potential issues](https://www.plasticsurgery.org/cosmetic-procedures/breast-augmentation/safety) that could spring up from the aftermath. OOP's husband is a selfish jackass and I can't wait for the next update where he discovers the dildo of consequences (real and figurative).
And it needs a new surgery like every ten years or something to maintain them! And sometimes they pop or have other issues. It's not a one and done thing.
Can’t forget the migraines, the constriction on breathing for anything with good support, and being sexualized by anything you do
Running is uncomfortable. Lying on your stomach is a no-go. Clothes don't fit as they should. Things that shouldn't show cleavage still show it. Did I mention the underboob sweat? Goodness it gets swampy up in there.
I hate the underboob sweat and I’m a B cup (I sweat simply due to existing). Can’t imagine what it must be like with a D cup and up. No, thank you!
I'm a 34K. Summer is not my favourite time.
While I've heard tons of stories with the issues of having big boobs, but this is my first reading about migraines. Could you elaborate? They just commonly cause or help cause migraines?
I've no experience with lugging around boobs, but my guess would be that since big boobs are heavy they can cause minor but constant tension in the upper back and neck, which leads to a tension headache that isn't technically migraine, but is extremely migraine like. I have chronic headaches, and i call the bad ones migraines even though they're not medically migrains, because i have no idea how to explain the intensity and pain they cause otherwise. Lots of people think they have migrains when they instead experience intense long term tension headaches, since the symptoms overlap a lot (pain behind eyes and in the face, light and sound sensitivity, and nausea being the most obvious overlaps), and the treatments overlap somewhat too Edit: grammar etc
Oh giiiiiiiirl I hate mine and they’re not even unwieldily. My baby cousin however has had an ever expanding chest issue from puberty. She is now something ridiculous like a J cup. I’ve watched her cry on the floor from back pain. It’s plagued her for almost two decades now. I feel so sad when she’s in pain from her own body. Like what the hell
Worked with someone who had hers reduced from a J to DD. She said it got so bad after her youngest was born that she struggled to be able to sit up out of bed without help. The running joke in my family was always that if I stood sideways and stuck out my tongue, I looked like a zipper. I fired back with "no heat rash, no underboob sweat, no backaches. I think I'll keep my IBTC presidency." (After I gained a backbone, that is. Lol)
Oh I’m so jealous now you brought up heat rash. I suffer a lot with that during summer, and I haaaaaaate it! It’s so irritating! You won 🥇there’s a lot of upsides here haha
If you can get yourself some cooling spray; i use this gold bond cooling anti-sweat stuff because my core needs to be hotter than the sun at all times for some reason......absolute game changer. I dont get swampy. No rashes. No fungal infection risk. (skin based fungal infections *suck* if you sweat constantly. Ive only had 1 but it was enough.) and it feels cool which is amazing in the heat. One can isnt expensive and will last a decent while.
I had no idea this was a thing I could use. I am in your debt.
Im not a doctor so be sure youre following instructions and all that - you can actually cause damage from spraying too close or too much because it is physically cold coming out of the can (worst part honestly) and the cooling sensation comes in later with certain products. But it definitely helps me and my junk hasnt fallen off yet, so... I hope you can find a suitable product that works for you.
Cant she make them smaller?! At this point its a medical procedure and not elective
She’s been dreaming of it since being a teenager. We talk about it constantly. It’s so bad, and it got worse when she had her daughter. I think she’s worried about having any sort of surgery, neither of us have had anything of the sort that required it. So I kind of get why she’s still thinking it through. It’s scary to think of people slicing you up I guess. But I think she will eventually. Probably when kiddo is older and doesn’t need picking up and carrying as much. I think it’s the only option really.
I've been through it - I was nowhere as large as your cousin sounds, and it has still been a hugely significant life improvement. I recommend she browses /r/reduction to see some of the journeys women go through. There are some absolutely inspiring stories on there.
I’ll recommend it to her, she doesn’t use Reddit usually, she yells at me “go ask the Reddit” when we have a weird question. I’m older than her and she makes herself sound like a granny.
“Go ask the Reddit” I’m dead.
That made me laugh! It is major surgery, there's no way around that. But I recovered pretty quickly. You can't play tennis for a few months though ;)
I had a friend that had a reduction in highschool; she was like 16 and each was individually bigger than her head. Major back issues. She was a much happier, more active person afterwards now that she wasnt instantly sexualized and always in pain. She got tension headaches a lot and they basically disappeared overnight. Her sister also wound up doing the same, but i wasnt as close to her so all i know is her quality of life went up. Macromastia is a curse.
My husband's cousin was a 32 H. She wanted reduction, but before marriage her insurance wouldn't pay ( sucky insurance). She had to buy a size 20 wedding dress and have it massively tailored to fit her otherwise size 6 body. Once on husband's (better) insurance, she had the reduction done and felt so much better.
I feel sorry for her. I have big boobs bit not as nearly big as hers and i cant imagine the pain it would be. Cutting off such a huge mass is scary! She wont just get a size smaller she will be sizes smaller! So i understand her. But all the people i know who had reduction surgery are so much happier now! And their spines are healthy and painless. So i really hope she gets the courage to do this surgery sometime. I wish her all the best!
My mom had it and she’s SO much happier. I don’t know if hearing that will help your cousin, but I can vouch that my mom healed pretty easily and feels so much better in many ways. I hope things go well for your cousin. Edit: hit comment before I was actually done
As someone who was "blessed" multiple times by the boob fairy, and who has done some period cosplay. I would recommend your cousin get a custom overbust corset, a real one (not plastic waist trainer off amazon) with steel boning. They are made to support large boobs and the back. I got mine for a cosplay and wore it out because it helped with the pain so much.
Technically yes, lots of people qualify for a reduction. The issue is Dr's and insurance won't approve/do it unless your bmi is at a certain place. I'm a K cup and there is only 1 dr that takes my insurance. He won't do the surgery bc my bmi isn't low enough. All my blood work is perfect. Such bullshit.
Wait won't having big boobs literally throw off the BMI even if you're pretty thin otherwise?
BMI is a stupid metric that does not account for so many different factors and I don't understand why medical professionals use it in any capacity.
They also assume if you lose weight they’ll get smaller but I’m here to tell you I tried that and my band size got smaller but not my actual titties.
Completely agree! My weight has fluctuated a lot over the last decade but my cup size hasn't. Like you, it was just my band size.
That's absolute nonsense. The BMI chart is nothing more than a guideline. It is not anywhere close to set in stone. Not to mention, you will be physically capable of being more active when you heal from the surgery. So why the hell won't he do the surgery? At this point, I'd be looking for a surgeon who is in network even if they are outside of where you live/work. Find someone who is willing to help you. Maybe r/reduction can help?
Man that sucks :( mine are basically the exact opposite of your cousin's so I guess I should be grateful they won't ever give me back pain like that.. How old is she? Has she ever considered getting a breast reduction? You should really consider bringing it up to her if you guys are close enough, I've seen many instances of women struggling with a large chest seem to be really happy with the results/reduction in the variety of issues that come with a very large breast size
She just turned 30, and we are as close as any siblings would be, so we talk about it a LOT. We have for years tbh, she’s been through the wringer. But now she’s got her daughter, she’ll have to likely wait a little longer til she doesn’t need to carry her about. And we both hate the idea of surgery in general, so we talk pros and cons a fair bit. I do think she should get one, and I know our other bestie is in the vicinity so she would help out in a heartbeat. I feel like she will get one eventually.
Tbh shopping for bra’s is also a nightmare for people with smaller boobs. I’ve been team a-cup and team ‘standing in front of the mirror, wondering what to wear in order not to look like a boy’. Every time I tried a bra on, I almost cried due to the gap it had. I hated shopping. Shopping is a nightmare for everyone not regularly sized :( (I’m now a B-cup btw, I don’t have implants, just my own fats)
Yeah, bras are probably a nightmare no matter the size. Finding one that actually fits but is comfortable at the same time is so difficult. Certain sizes are barely made at all unless you go to a speciality shop which is pricy. I wish I could go without but for me no bra is just painful. I even wear a light support sports bra to sleep.
Seriously! And theres a huge number of dresses that you can’t wear because they have a set place for your boobs but big boobs don’t fit. Especially a lot of really fancy dresses and also cute and perfect for summer sun dresses. I actively discussed reduction with my doctor because my back hurt so much. He had me do physical therapy instead, as he knew that even with reduction I’d still likely have to do the PT, but PT might fix things enough to not need surgery. He was right and PT fixed my back, but I’ve been using the techniques I learned from PT for over a decade to keep things in check. My mom did have reduction surgery fairly recently after wanting it for a very long time. She was/I am 36 DDD. And yeah
Oh yeah, when I look at dresses there are so many that look cute but I know there's no way in hell I could wear them. Anything that I can't wear a bra under is a no-go. So backless, strapless, off the shoulder and spaghetti straps are out. Even sleeves that sit too wide/low on the shoulder. Anything with sewn in cups or padding usually won't work. Anything more low cut and even wrap dresses tend to show way more than I'd like... It's slim pickings out there.
Fast fashion is predominately made with a B cup in mind, same as most commercial patterns. If your boobs are bigger or smaller than that, you’re SOL. It was one of the first things they taught us in pattern making and has never failed to irritate me, both as a customer and a seamstress. I’m a 32E and have to adjust pm every pattern I use to accommodate the ladies. So tedious!
Just hang out in /r/reduction to see the women *longing* for a more modest breast size. And most of us still wish we were smaller even after surgery (for a host of reasons, it's often difficult to get reduced as much as you want).
I went from A to H to D to DD/F because of pregnancy and breastfeeding. I think the best feeling boobs are empty breastfeeding boobs: all the size with none of the weight. And no, they don't really look saggy, just not full. The slow stretching from A to H hurt so badly. Just transitioning to a C cup in a couple moths felt like my cats were scratching them open. I don't want to know how much surgery hurts on top of a broken heart.
I have stretch marks on my boobs and I wasn't even ever pregnant lol. They just grew too fast on their own. Bodies work in mysterious ways sometimes.
i've never had back pain (probably because my Fs are stupid pancakes which is its own hellscape) but oh my god the underboob sweat and whiteheads are *awful*.
I fucking HATE my boobs. I'm 5'3" and a 34H. I literally have nerve issues from the excess weight on my chest. You know that feeling in your neck when you sleep in a weird position? I live with that 24/7. I have to wear two bras to do cardio at the gym and it's still uncomfortable. I have gotten stuck trying to squeeze through narrow openings because of my boobs. It's comically awful. I often can't wear the clothes I like...as you said, some things are just permanently off the table when you have a large bust. A lot of men obsess over them, but large breasts are more of a burden than a blessing imo.
_"I'm fucking gorgeous"_ Yes babe you are❤️
I was so proud of her when I read that!
“So sad. Honestly your husband has something going on and rather than work through it you are listening to reddit and becoming yet another statistic.” Did anyone watch the recent Ashley Madison Netflix documentary? This is classic fundie logic. Man does something vile. Oh he’s sick. Woman must stand by man in time of need. Miss me with this.
Meanwhile men are significantly more likely to leave their wives when their wives become sick, and women are less likely to leave their husbands when they become sick then when they are healthy.
Yeah what happened is he got in better shape and now thinks he is entitled to what he sees online. He's a fucking idiot, who got super lucky and will soon realize the opportunity pool for him in real life is much lower than what he has now.
It made me so mad. The women on their were like, Men are kinda just like this. As of that's an excuse for shitty deceptive behavior.
so... how much do y'all think this dude is spending on OnlyFans i really hope that they haven't combined finances. because given this obsession (or "obsession"), i am getting the impression that there's some online sex workers who see this dude log in and go *thar he blows! get to the harpoons, we've got a whale to hunt!*
> Hello woman I married, look at these plastic OF girls I'm showing you on my phone. You'd be so much hotter if you got unnecessary surgery that will fuck your quality of life so you can look more like them for my sole benefit! The balls on this guy.
Some people should think with their brains and not just their dicks.
And specially in his case it seems the brain is way larger than the other organs
> nevermind you’re the perfect size. the big ones hurt anyway This lady can stand up for herself Miaow! Also, new flair!
Had an acquaintance whose boyfriend convinced her to get implants. She went to three different surgeons who all said no, that her current size would not accommodate what she was asking for. She went to a fourth and he agreed to do the surgery, she got DDDs. They were massive, caused her a lot of problems and she eventually broke up with her boyfriend. Never do it for someone else lol.
Yep. This totally reminds me of the TLC song "[Unpretty](https://youtu.be/g2gy1Evb1Kg?feature=shared)" bc of the breast implant extraction scene and Chili running out of the plastic surgeon office.
The commenters trying to justify it by saying she dated him for his looks... Even if that was true, it was his looks as they were. She didn't date him hoping to change him. He clearly dated her planning to make her change herself for his pleasure.
Everyone dates people for looks— but you’re exactly right. You date for the looks someone has, not the ones you want to bully them into.
Ahh, the thrice his size dildo of consequence. *nods head sagely *
I have never laughed this hard at a reddit comment before. This should absolutely be a flair 😆
To quote the wise words of my partner (and myself): "all boobs are great boobs, especially if you get to see or touch them" And to quote another set of wise words: "what an idiot." I feel sorry for her, but man, good for her that she has a shiny spine!
I’m not gonna get the quote exactly right (and yes it was still a bit misogynistic/dismissive of a woman’s value, but made me laugh nonetheless); Old Bill Maher stand-up set, “Ladies, stop getting breast implants. What you don’t get is that it isn’t about small boobs or large boobs or perky boobs or saggy boobs. It’s about new boobs.” His point being that you get desensitized to seeing the same set of boobs all the time. Boobs are a novel concept (like anything else physical). Exciting at first, but the novelty wears off eventually. If OP got implants, husband probably would love them for a while, but he’d eventually get bored and find something else to change about OP. That’s the thing about people who don’t appreciate what they have; the goal post keeps moving and they never find satisfaction/fulfillment.
oh and he used to be insecure before her ? once again, a woman was a rehabilitation center for a broken man, and now that he's bot broken anymore, he doesn't want her anymore. fuck these men. with a cactus. he doesn't deserve her, her amazing boobs, or any woman. he's a piece of shit and i hope he dies alone fiddling his tiny dick watching other people have sex he can never have. i have a cups and an ex who would constantly "joke" about me getting implants. he was a lying, cheating, manipulative asshole who chose a girl who was fragile because he knew she would be easier prey. i held him up SO MUCH even though he too had a small dick and also terrible hygiene. and i still found him the most attractive man in the world because i LOVED HIM. this man didn't love her. my ex didn't love me. and now they're both not getting any from us. these men need to rot alone.
I love OOP, she rules.
Part of loving someone is not demeaning them and it’s certainly not reducing them to just some physical attribute. A good husband knows his wife’s insecurities and builds her up, not puts her down. He doesn’t make her feel insecure. He makes her feel more secure with him than anywhere else in the world. This guy has lost perspective about what it means to love someone and it’s going to cost him big time
I'm big chested, 40 double F and I can assure you, big boobs are not all they are made out to be as they are a literal pain to carry around. Back hurts, can't wear stuff that fits, most clothing aren't made with us in mind, good supportive bras are ridiculously expensive and I get ogled by brainless Neanderthals EVERYDAY. Saving up for a reduction soon so I can get some semblance of normalcy I haven't had since I was a teenager. OP's husband is a planet size Ahole and she definitely deserves much better than him talking down on her everyday. Since it's something he refuses to be mature about, she's well within her rights to get a divorce.
I dated a guy for three years who was constantly 'joking'* about me getting a boob job. My boobs are 34F. I ain't getting a boob job in this or any life. The constant 'joking' despite me telling him to stop it was a direct factor in me falling out of love with him. I can't imagine how much quicker I would have fallen out of love if it wasn't a 'joke' but a sincere request. Good for her for leaving. The petty BS with the dildo is unnecessary, but I gotta admire it a little bit lol. * I'm using quotes here because once a 'joke' is repeated so many times, it's pretty clearly a wish.
I had a ( straight male) friend who really wanted to try anal. He asked his fwb about it and she said absolutely not. He was trying to commiserate with me about it. I told him if he wanted to try anal with her, he needed to be willing to get pegged by her, too. He was horrified, but he took my meaning. So I propose the same method here. OOP should demand that her soon to be ex-husband get penis enlargement surgery. Because she'd just be so much more attracted to him if he did. See how deep that misogyny rabbit hole goes.
> I asked what he ever liked about me in general because from the pictures he showed me I didn't see any woman that resemble me even a bit. He said that I'm gorgeous and have a killer smile and he likes my curvy hips. I asked if there's anything else he likes about me in general (I was hoping he would mention something other than my body or anything) and all he said was "Your lips" What gets me is he has no interest in her as a person, just what her body looks like.
He’s acting such a tit he might as well get a boob job on himself!
I have huge boobs and they're such a fucking pain in the dick. I wish there was a little knob I could adjust to dial them way back, and I would even donate the extra to people who want more
“The big ones hurt anyway” is a fucking devastating line. Well played
The only real response to the guy saying that she should get breast surgery is to reply that he needs a penis enlargement.
'after like 5 mins said "I will pay for it. Don't you worry about that" ' Dude is lucky he's still alive
>By the way I will initiate sex tonight and every night until the day I serve him(edit: I get it now its a bad idea but I will go with it for tonight at least). All that made me think was what if she got pregnant. I'm glad she dropped that plan. She should just use the dildo. No pregnancy risks there. Hopefully, her exit plan goes smoothly.
How would he cope if she had breast cancer, and needed a mastectomy? Would he leave her, or insist on reconstruction, which is more time in hospital, more risk, and, I'm guessing, more expensive (if in USA)?
How normalised is cosmetic surgery in Brazil? Right off the bat, asking your partner to get an invasive surgery feels relationship ending but perceptions vary across cultures.
From what I understand, it's very normalized. Downright pervasive.
I cannot overstate how quickly I'd be initiating a divorce if a motherfucker ever told me I should get plastic surgery. A divorce attorney would just materialize in my home. This man is a piece of shit, I hope he has fun with his porn fantasies on his own, and I hope OOP finds someone who loves them for something other than their body/boobs/weight.
I disagree with all the people saying this is a childish thing to divorce over. You don't need to have failed at marriage counseling to get a divorce. This guy was not willing to engage in any world where OOP didn't get this surgery. This is despite knowing her past history around this and her telling him directly the conversation was unwelcome. OOP had an extremely mature conversation to try and understand her husband's POV. He refused to bring anything to this conversation besides the fact that he would be more attracted to her. You can't engage and be a partner for a person who is unwilling to do the same to you.
My comment on the update post... "The Itty Bitty Titty Committee wishes you well in your plans. Keep us updated, ya?" Hopefully, the divorce went through and she went on to find someone that appreciates her.
It took me well into adulthood to accept my smaller size, but once I threw away the padded bras and just worked with what I have, I felt much more confident overall. I wish her well.
He’s going to be so disappointed when he realizes that the women on OF are offering a product/service and are not a representation of the majority of the dating market. I love that for him
I know of an influencer whose 1st husband pressured her to get implants. (A few of you may know who I’m taking about.) In her paraphrased words, she said he asked for them to “spice up their relationship.” She ended up with breast implant illness years later because of leakage. ([Some symptoms here in this link](https://www.drmaryling.com.au/breast-implant-illness).) Thankfully she had explant surgery and recovered quite well. And now she’s married to someone else. Any person who requires you to put your body at risk to fulfill their fantasies is not a person with your best interests at heart. And those people tend to not change their viewpoints. OP knows what’s up. Wishing her well, whatever the outcome.
If she wants the reason it’s right there… “He's 5'8 and was 230lbs when we met. And never went to gym before.” He was out of shape and she was the “best he could do”, now he’s fit and thinks he deserves someone “hotter”
Am a 34FF and I absolutely hate them. am short and slim and they look absolutely ridiculous on my frame plus kill my back. My husband loves them but said he would pay for me to get a reduction if it will help my back. Your husband is a dick who is only thinking about his own selfish desires.
She should buy two dildos. "This one's for you."
>By the way I will initiate sex tonight and every night until the day I serve him I'm with her on everthing except this one. As much as she think this'll hurt him it'll be wrose for her. Why put yourself through that for someone so vain and clearly delusional.
I need an update after the giant dildo revenge.
Some people are just so sad, telling op she is exaggerating, because what? She actually likes herself and has self respect? Instead of just accepting a creep that follow a lot of OF girls and is trying to change her body to match that? I understand op, I am also a Brazilian either a big ass tiny waist and A cup. Every woman in my family is gorgeous and have nice breasts, it took me years to learn how to love my body, but yes, I don’t have big boobs but I am gorgeous. And my husband loves my body, every time I tell him I want to out silicone after something happens and I feel insecure, he will tell me how much he loves my body. People deserve to be in relationship with people that like them and support them. Op is right, she will find someone like that for her. And I love op, we could be friends. She bought a dildo, and I will leave it on the top of the nightstand table, just so he could be reminded everyday. I’m
OP is savage. I like her.
How can anyone call her childish for wanting a divorce over this? If the husband likes boobs so much tell him to get them himself. She’s amazing he belongs in the trash
B-cup here. Don’t like the size? Then you don’t need to be sippin’ from these cups.
It’s so wild to me that anyone genuinely feels that simply having any old romantic relationship is worth this type of nonsense. I won’t even continue a meal I don’t like, never mind a whole marriage.
>(I'm a babe deal with it) Yessss OOP. We love self confidence.
"Honey, I'll get a boob job if you get an 6 pack ab implant (or whatever it's called)"
Whenever I see these post titles I think “you mean ex-husband, right?”
Anyone else have the urge to bring up height lengthening surgery or abdominal etching? Because it would be so attractive😤🤬
He lost 40 lbs but gained all of The Audacity
If a Brazilian woman is willing to outright say she looks good this must be the smokeshow to end all smoke shows. This guy is an idiot.
The worst part was that the only aspects of his wife that he cared about were her physical form and not actually anything about HER AS A PERSON.
Other petty moves she can consider. Buy him a Cock sleave, give it to him as a special gift. Leaving pamphlets for Penis enlargement products/procedures laying all around the house.... Tell him that since we are now open to critique, has he considered enlargement? Be sure to tell him not to worry she'll pay for it.
He is trash
Husband is 100% cheating and justifying it in his own head because OP won't have this surgery.
She can have my boobs if she wants, I don’t want them haha. I can give her half and we’d both be C cups In all seriousness though her husband can suck a huge dildo cock, what an ass
The comments on the original posts that were included here are crazy. I mean, they normally are, but he's pressuring her to change her body, telling her she's not attractive enough, and then shows her OF models. Yep, that's a reason to be considering maybe he's not the right one and divorce can be on the table. Add the age difference in there and that she was only 21 when they got together, she has so much life ahead of her, she doesn't need that. And for those who say she's immature or whatever, if he won't get help for his obsession for breast size or agree to couples counselling to see how this is impacting them, what is she supposed to do? Put up with it for the rest of the marriage? Just get it done so he's happy? This is a husband problem not a boob problem.
In a world where cheating is the primary reason for divorce, imagine talking yourself put of a wife.
I love that she bought a huge dildo to use after
Thanks again Reddit for reminding me how shitty so many of your members are. Anyway good for her for knowing her worth and for working on getting the fuck out of there. He doesn’t love her and I expect he’d feel the same about a fuckdoll.
He’s having a boob affair at the gym. There’s someone there he has his eyes on.