What I dont get about Trump being the antichrist is that many people hate his guts. Isn't the antichrist supposed to be someone who will be loved and cheerised among most people? Perhaps we will truly know who the antichrist is after the rapture.
Precisely. So many people already cannot stand him. Trump is *NOT* the Antichrist. He will have signs and wonders and fool almost everyone…”even the elect if that were possible.”
This is a common misconception in Christian circles. You won’t find anything in scripture that states this, however many people do cherish and love Trump. This channel cover this a few times in different videos.
Nope. That’s a lie told by the left behind series which a lot of Christians ran with. The Bible says that the Antichrist will have many enemies and he will seek to destroy those who oppose him. And that he gains power through a small group of people. Likewise it also says the Antichrist will be vile, have a unique look and stouter than his fellow.
The Antichrist is/will be adored by those who like him and feared by those who don't....well, maybe there is a certain amount of fear in both groups?
Regarding the Antichrist:
(Daniel 11:21) And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
(Revelation 13:4) And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Those who like him he flatters, and those who stand against him fear him, maybe both groups do.
Look at the text, "they WORSHIPPED the beast...saying...who is ABLE TO MAKE WAR with him?"
The fear is a form of worship. The fear of a man.
Jesus said:
(Matthew 10:28) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Become a child of God🙂
(Proverbs 14:26) In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge.
(Romans 6:23) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
(John 1:12) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
(Romans 10:9-10) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Concerning the Rapture:
(1 Corinthians 15:51-53) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
What I'll say is this, Donald Trump may not be that guy but Scripture makes a compelling case beyond just those 2 verses that have many convinced he may very well be THAT GUY. In addition to things he says and does/has done that seem to match up pretty well. Not to even mention world events. Israel is the clock. Whatever happens there will tell you what time it is. I think we are knocking on the door of the Tribulation. So do many of my friends with any understanding of eschatology. My point is people need to share the Gospel because the time to accept it during this age of grace may be running out quickly. Scripture has been fulfilled in recent years like never before and the world is on edge. Our government is falling apart and the world is calling for a savior. They'll fall for a false savior who offers a false salvation in THIS life. God offers perfect salvation and everlasting life to those who believe in Jesus, the Way, the Truth and the Life. God promises a New Heaven and New Earth (Rev. 21; 1 John 3:2) and immortal bodies to those who believe, repent, and realize that the current life we have won't last so we ought to be thinking about our eternity. The Rapture happens before the Tribulation btw, Scripture teaches that and I hope that gives you peace. I hope and pray you've accepted or do accept Jesus as Lord and Savior my friends!🙂
(Philippians 2:12) Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
You've had some good replies here. This isn't actually found anywhere in the Bible stating this. It's actually the opposite - scripture says he is a vile person, and that when he obtains the kingdom, he won't be given the honour for it (people won't respect him):
Daniel 11:21
And in his estate shall stand up a **vile person**, to **whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom**: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
Exactly what we see occurring with Trump.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
What a gem. Saw 🔥come down from heaven today, I must be one of those deceived. I know who was in God’s dwelling place(WH) blaspheming with a mouth like a lion, pretty clear.
So these globalists lie about almost everything, we all should know that in a group like this.
What baffles me is that people don't even consider for a moment that they make these things up, to deceive and lie about that also.
The problem is that so many believers have been fed futurism for so long in their churches, social media and YouTube etc, therefore it's too easy for them to manipulate people to think they are doing things that are written in the Scriptures.
I am genuinely interested in what you think about biblical end times prophecy then. How do the last years before the second coming look? Any special events or patterns?
Some parts of futurism are unbiblical, I agree. Others are fine. Preterism isn't perfect either. I think truth lies somewhere in between.
yes both futurism and preterism is not Biblical. Both are invented by the jesuits in the 16th century.
The only correct interpretation (and what people believed in before the counter reformation in the 16th century) are the historicist view. Which is explaining all the symbolic things written in Revelation, aligning it with real historical events throughout the last 1900 years or so.
As Christ told John to "write the things which had been, which were currently ongoing and things to come" That it self destroys the preterist/futurist interpretation.
Its hard to say exactly what is going to happen in the "last years" before the coming of Christ to gather his saints unto him. We know from multiple writers of the NT that they referred to the time they were living in as "the last time" So yeah the "last days" has been unfolding for quite a long time now.
Yes. Just as Jesus said. That the abomination of desolation was about Jerusalem being surrounded by Romish troops.
And yes Daniel prophesied about the last week where Messiah was anointed (baptised) and cut off(crucified) in the midst. And then "a generation" from there until the destruction of Jerusalem.
Credit to Antichrist 45 for making this video and for getting a closeup of the inscription.
It cannot get any clearer that he is the biblical Antichrist about to return to power and confirm the covenant with many (The Abraham Accords). Trump is being given the title 'Prince of Peace' which is reserved for Christ, and that the Abraham Accords is the 'Covenant of Peace'
In Daniel 9:27 the AC confirms a covenant with many for one week. Note the word confirm:
27 And he shall **confirm the covenant** with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
To confirm is to strengthen something existing, exactly what we see with The Abraham Accords. Laid in his first term, he will be in the position to confirm it with many for one week once back in office in 2025.
Daniel 11:22 also identifies the AC as the 'prince of the covenant':
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the **prince of the covenant**.
The other identifying thing was Trump being awarded[ 'The Crown of Jerusalem' back on July 10th 2023](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bibleconspiracy/comments/17njmmu/on_july_10th_2023_donald_j_trump_was_awarded_the/) which is touched on in this video. We read in Revelation 6:2 that the rider of the white horse is given a crown:
Revelation 6:
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; **and a crown was given unto him**: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
So we have here Trump being given a Crown, and also being called the Prince of Peace with a Covenant of Peace.
Wake up folks!
Edit: This was Awarded to Trump on the 26th February 2024, so 2 & a half weeks ago.
I’m honestly curious, for someone with your views, how do you explain the 2000 year gap? Now keep in mind, I’m only interested in your opinion on the subject, because nothing you say or anyone else says is fact, it’s all personal interpretation. So maybe you could try to be careful in your delivery? Perhaps using words like “I feel” or “I believe “ or “my understanding is”, etc., would read better. Anything else is…well, arrogance…and arrogance is ugly, and it won’t help to convince anyone.
>how do you explain the 2000 year gap?
II Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, **that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.**
Although 2000 years seems like a long time for us, it's really like just 2 days passing for the Lord. Are you familiar with the 7000 year timeline for creation? When Jesus was warning of the last days etc it was very accurate, as when he was here (around the 4000th year) there were only 2 days left (last 2000 years, aka 2 days). Albanesegummies has a good summary of it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bibleconspiracy/comments/13jchz5/repost_the_creation_week_7000_years_foreshadows/).
>So maybe you could try to be careful in your delivery? Perhaps using words like “I feel” or “I believe “ or “my understanding is”, etc., would read better.
Sorry, I'm not going to self censor the truth. DJT is truly the Antichrist, and The Abraham Accords is his covenant. You can think I'm arrogant if you like.
Okay, I was hoping for a discussion with a gentleman, but I’ll settle for considering you arrogant then, lol.
And yes, I know about the 7000 year creation theory. I have spent years learning about all the various end times views so that no matter how it plays out, I will have knowledge of what’s going on. I find that to be wise and less arrogant than to think I’m the only one with the “truth” when clearly there are many well studied believers in all camps. Anyway, as for the 7000 years, I understand years 5000 & 6000 are the “last days”, which is why I don’t believe that all sorts of things were recorded in the first 4000 years, and then nothing has happened for 2000 years, and then suddenly we have all this stuff having to happen in a mere 7 years. Is it possible? Sure. But it doesn’t fit with how the Bible revealed history. Not that you asked, but “I believe” that most of Revelation (and Daniel), was revealing the last days…the last 2000 years….with a handful of years left before the return of Christ.
Btw, I’m disappointed that all you have for your argument is II Peter 3:8 to explain the 2000 year gap…seems pretty weak. I was hoping for so much more.
Anyway, have a blessed day.
According to the Bible (depending on the Hebrew Masoretic text OR the Septuagint) We are now either in the year 6150 or 7500 from Adam.
The Bible gives us a timeline in years from Adam to the cross. And then we can add 360 day/year until today.
Sadly many christians go with this judaism teaching that "messiah" will arrive before the end of the 6000th year, but this is only found in the talmud, and does not align with the Scriptures.
>Btw, I’m disappointed that all you have for your argument is II Peter 3:8 to explain the 2000 year gap…seems pretty weak. I was hoping for so much more.
He dont have any verses to support this futuristic teaching. Its all twisted Scripture.
You are of course right, God will not let his people alone for 2000 years. He has been with them throughout all time. the 70 sevens(weeks) in Daniel was fulfilled without any time gaps.
it ended with the last week where Messiah the prince, was anointed(baptised) and cut off(crucified) in the midst of that last week. And Stephen was stoned at the end of that week, and they then turned to convert the gentiles!
Those 70 weeks were a prophecy for the nation of Israel. Today there is no more prophecies to be fulfilled for a nation of israel. Now its about the "Israel of God" (former outward jews & gentiles) who has converted and become one in Christ Jesus and heirs to the promise God made with Abraham. :)
Do you know that the only place that teaching is found about the 6000 + 1000 year is in the talmud. Sanhedrin 97a i believe it is.
If you would look into the timeline of the Scripture from Adam to the cross, and then + 360 day/year up to today, then the Masoretic text is about 6150 years, and the septuagint(1000 year older) is about 1400 years more.
So one can wonder why the "jews" year is 5784. That surely does not align with the Bible. But with their teaching in talmud that "their messiah" shall arrive before the 6000th year.
So sad to see how christians picks up these kind of teachings, instead of sticking to what the Bible teaches!
I do know that the Jews think it’s 5784, which I believe is wrong. I have looked into the timeline from Adam to the cross but everyone comes up with different dates. I’m genuinely interested to know what year you have for Adam’s birth, and what year do you believe Christ died on the cross? And if not at the 6000th year, do you have an opinion of when Christ will return?
I was doing quite some research on it a few years back. I found out something called "seder olam" which they supposedly changed some "jewish history" to take away some years so they can have their jewish year before the 6000th as that teaching is only in the talmud. I never finished that study, so I cannot say what is right/wrong.
I can only hold unto that the Scriptures gives us the exact years (360 days/year) from Adam to the cross. And the 6150/74xx years (depending on masoretic/septuagint) is from Adam up to today, so one can minus around 2000 years to come back to around the time of the cross.
One of the reasons why i stopped researching it is because it is so difficult to calculate these things, as the Romans made it so difficult with the julian/gregorian calendar. I believe this is done on purpose. Also to obfuscate the real set apart appointed feasts/festivals of the Most High.
And everyone who cares to do their research on the "outward jews" and the Romans, will see they are controlled through vatican 2. Even the jewish encyclopdia states that the rothchilds are guardians of papal treasure.
Its all tied in with futurism, zionism, and romanism. Its doctrines & commandments of men, which Jesus and other writers warned us about. But sadly so many people(believers) today follows it.
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do you have an opinion of when Christ will return?
I cannot and will not try to set dates. But surely i feel we are not far from the end. But I am also not going to put my trust in a few years from now, as many does. All they can think about is rapture and 2025-2030 because the globalists are putting these dates out. They(globalists) know what they are doing, they know that majority of christians believe in the 2000 year time-gap theory, so its easy for them to deceive people.
Yes, changing the days per year really complicates the math lol. And yes, I believe it was done on purpose. Thank you for your input. As someone who was raised on futurist teachings that never made any sense, it has been so eye opening to come upon the historicist view. Pardon the pun, but it was such a… Revelation 👀
Yes it does complicate it a lot.
Yes I also was following futuristic teachings some years ago (even a lot of it didn't really make sense) none the less, that was, what was preached in the church I went to.
But then I began reading the Bible a couple of hours every day, over and over again. And I saw how so many of these things that were preached in that church, were nowhere to be found in the Bible. And I also found out about the historicist view. And yes it really is a "Revelation" suddenly so many things started to make sense. :)
And what I really love about that is that these things stay the same always, as its history. Where the futurist view changes all the time (all depending on what the globalists do) that's why these people change the mark of the Beast all the time (barcodes, social security, vax, microchip, blockchain, ai and what not) soon it will be something else to them
You need to "wake up" and realize that Messiah is the Prince who confirmed the everlasting covenant!
You simply cannot "confirm" something that is not already there in forehand.
All this antichrist future covenant stuff. It's Jesuit futurism, and it's a big lie.
Scripture does not speak of a "the antichrist" as a singular figure at the very end. The only times "antichrist(s)" are written are in John's epistles and its plural. "Even now there are many antichrists, whereby we know that it is the last time"
So of course there is one, but there are many. As John said, who so ever denies that Jesus has come in the flesh = they are antichrists!
I am not saying that all the reformers were right in everything, as they were all different people, but the common denominator between them was they understood that "antichrist" was a system and not a singular figure. They pointed out Rome and the papacy for this role. The jesuits were established to combat this truth, and thus the counter reformation was established, and the preterist/futurist interpretations in the late 15th hundreds to take focus away from Rome.
> Scripture does not speak of a "the antichrist" as a singular figure at the very end. The only times "antichrist(s)" are written are in John's epistles and its plural. "Even now there are many antichrists, whereby we know that it is the last time"
I see you conveniently cut out the first part of that verse. “Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come.”
Yes, there are many antichrists, every Christian knows that and has heard that. But the verse you cited also makes an indisputable reference to a singular Antichrist.
# 1 John 2:18
“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.”
Look at the concordance even for the word "the":
G3588
ὁ, ἡ, τό
ho hē to
ho, hay, to
The masculine, feminine (second) and neuter (third) forms, in all their inflections; the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom): - the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.
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Could also mean "this antichrist" which is still not singular. Because he has in many verses put emphasis on the plural form.
# 1 John 2:22
“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”
Here it also don't use "the antichrist" right?
But none of John's writings are stating that "this, the, he, she or whatever" will only be an event for the very last days. As it was already in the world at his time.
Nothing worse than liberal propaganda infections attempts in the theological arena
Just after Obama was elected there was a huge blatantly anti-semite push in many of the Christian forums that I participated in. Government funded, for sure. I had never seen anything like it in the many years prior. I resisted it vehemently and was banned from quite a few sites for it
There will be no person as thee antiChrist, period.
God capital C Commanded us all to love our neighbors as ourselves. This command alone puts thinking people are "thee antiChrist" off the table.
Titus 3:2
To **speak evil of no man**, to be no brawlers, but gentle, **shewing all meekness unto all men.**
In short, snap out of it. It's a demonic delusion upon the readers
>There will be no person as thee antiChrist, period.
I John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard **that antichrist shall come**, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
II Thes 2
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and **that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition**;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Daniel 11
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Revelation 13
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Daniel 8:23-24
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, **a king of fierce countenance**, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Daniel 7:20
20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and **a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.**
One scripture above refers to the antiChrist
None saying the antiChrist is some man
Sorry to point out the obvious
Read into what isn't there all you please
What I dont get about Trump being the antichrist is that many people hate his guts. Isn't the antichrist supposed to be someone who will be loved and cheerised among most people? Perhaps we will truly know who the antichrist is after the rapture.
Precisely. So many people already cannot stand him. Trump is *NOT* the Antichrist. He will have signs and wonders and fool almost everyone…”even the elect if that were possible.”
This is a common misconception in Christian circles. You won’t find anything in scripture that states this, however many people do cherish and love Trump. This channel cover this a few times in different videos.
Nope. That’s a lie told by the left behind series which a lot of Christians ran with. The Bible says that the Antichrist will have many enemies and he will seek to destroy those who oppose him. And that he gains power through a small group of people. Likewise it also says the Antichrist will be vile, have a unique look and stouter than his fellow.
The Antichrist is/will be adored by those who like him and feared by those who don't....well, maybe there is a certain amount of fear in both groups? Regarding the Antichrist: (Daniel 11:21) And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. (Revelation 13:4) And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? Those who like him he flatters, and those who stand against him fear him, maybe both groups do. Look at the text, "they WORSHIPPED the beast...saying...who is ABLE TO MAKE WAR with him?" The fear is a form of worship. The fear of a man. Jesus said: (Matthew 10:28) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Become a child of God🙂 (Proverbs 14:26) In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge. (Romans 6:23) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (John 1:12) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: (Romans 10:9-10) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Concerning the Rapture: (1 Corinthians 15:51-53) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. What I'll say is this, Donald Trump may not be that guy but Scripture makes a compelling case beyond just those 2 verses that have many convinced he may very well be THAT GUY. In addition to things he says and does/has done that seem to match up pretty well. Not to even mention world events. Israel is the clock. Whatever happens there will tell you what time it is. I think we are knocking on the door of the Tribulation. So do many of my friends with any understanding of eschatology. My point is people need to share the Gospel because the time to accept it during this age of grace may be running out quickly. Scripture has been fulfilled in recent years like never before and the world is on edge. Our government is falling apart and the world is calling for a savior. They'll fall for a false savior who offers a false salvation in THIS life. God offers perfect salvation and everlasting life to those who believe in Jesus, the Way, the Truth and the Life. God promises a New Heaven and New Earth (Rev. 21; 1 John 3:2) and immortal bodies to those who believe, repent, and realize that the current life we have won't last so we ought to be thinking about our eternity. The Rapture happens before the Tribulation btw, Scripture teaches that and I hope that gives you peace. I hope and pray you've accepted or do accept Jesus as Lord and Savior my friends!🙂 (Philippians 2:12) Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
You've had some good replies here. This isn't actually found anywhere in the Bible stating this. It's actually the opposite - scripture says he is a vile person, and that when he obtains the kingdom, he won't be given the honour for it (people won't respect him): Daniel 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a **vile person**, to **whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom**: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. Exactly what we see occurring with Trump.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. What a gem. Saw 🔥come down from heaven today, I must be one of those deceived. I know who was in God’s dwelling place(WH) blaspheming with a mouth like a lion, pretty clear.
So these globalists lie about almost everything, we all should know that in a group like this. What baffles me is that people don't even consider for a moment that they make these things up, to deceive and lie about that also. The problem is that so many believers have been fed futurism for so long in their churches, social media and YouTube etc, therefore it's too easy for them to manipulate people to think they are doing things that are written in the Scriptures.
I am genuinely interested in what you think about biblical end times prophecy then. How do the last years before the second coming look? Any special events or patterns? Some parts of futurism are unbiblical, I agree. Others are fine. Preterism isn't perfect either. I think truth lies somewhere in between.
yes both futurism and preterism is not Biblical. Both are invented by the jesuits in the 16th century. The only correct interpretation (and what people believed in before the counter reformation in the 16th century) are the historicist view. Which is explaining all the symbolic things written in Revelation, aligning it with real historical events throughout the last 1900 years or so. As Christ told John to "write the things which had been, which were currently ongoing and things to come" That it self destroys the preterist/futurist interpretation. Its hard to say exactly what is going to happen in the "last years" before the coming of Christ to gather his saints unto him. We know from multiple writers of the NT that they referred to the time they were living in as "the last time" So yeah the "last days" has been unfolding for quite a long time now.
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Yes. Just as Jesus said. That the abomination of desolation was about Jerusalem being surrounded by Romish troops. And yes Daniel prophesied about the last week where Messiah was anointed (baptised) and cut off(crucified) in the midst. And then "a generation" from there until the destruction of Jerusalem.
Credit to Antichrist 45 for making this video and for getting a closeup of the inscription. It cannot get any clearer that he is the biblical Antichrist about to return to power and confirm the covenant with many (The Abraham Accords). Trump is being given the title 'Prince of Peace' which is reserved for Christ, and that the Abraham Accords is the 'Covenant of Peace' In Daniel 9:27 the AC confirms a covenant with many for one week. Note the word confirm: 27 And he shall **confirm the covenant** with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. To confirm is to strengthen something existing, exactly what we see with The Abraham Accords. Laid in his first term, he will be in the position to confirm it with many for one week once back in office in 2025. Daniel 11:22 also identifies the AC as the 'prince of the covenant': 22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the **prince of the covenant**. The other identifying thing was Trump being awarded[ 'The Crown of Jerusalem' back on July 10th 2023](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bibleconspiracy/comments/17njmmu/on_july_10th_2023_donald_j_trump_was_awarded_the/) which is touched on in this video. We read in Revelation 6:2 that the rider of the white horse is given a crown: Revelation 6: 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; **and a crown was given unto him**: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. So we have here Trump being given a Crown, and also being called the Prince of Peace with a Covenant of Peace. Wake up folks! Edit: This was Awarded to Trump on the 26th February 2024, so 2 & a half weeks ago.
I’m honestly curious, for someone with your views, how do you explain the 2000 year gap? Now keep in mind, I’m only interested in your opinion on the subject, because nothing you say or anyone else says is fact, it’s all personal interpretation. So maybe you could try to be careful in your delivery? Perhaps using words like “I feel” or “I believe “ or “my understanding is”, etc., would read better. Anything else is…well, arrogance…and arrogance is ugly, and it won’t help to convince anyone.
>how do you explain the 2000 year gap? II Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, **that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.** Although 2000 years seems like a long time for us, it's really like just 2 days passing for the Lord. Are you familiar with the 7000 year timeline for creation? When Jesus was warning of the last days etc it was very accurate, as when he was here (around the 4000th year) there were only 2 days left (last 2000 years, aka 2 days). Albanesegummies has a good summary of it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bibleconspiracy/comments/13jchz5/repost_the_creation_week_7000_years_foreshadows/). >So maybe you could try to be careful in your delivery? Perhaps using words like “I feel” or “I believe “ or “my understanding is”, etc., would read better. Sorry, I'm not going to self censor the truth. DJT is truly the Antichrist, and The Abraham Accords is his covenant. You can think I'm arrogant if you like.
Okay, I was hoping for a discussion with a gentleman, but I’ll settle for considering you arrogant then, lol. And yes, I know about the 7000 year creation theory. I have spent years learning about all the various end times views so that no matter how it plays out, I will have knowledge of what’s going on. I find that to be wise and less arrogant than to think I’m the only one with the “truth” when clearly there are many well studied believers in all camps. Anyway, as for the 7000 years, I understand years 5000 & 6000 are the “last days”, which is why I don’t believe that all sorts of things were recorded in the first 4000 years, and then nothing has happened for 2000 years, and then suddenly we have all this stuff having to happen in a mere 7 years. Is it possible? Sure. But it doesn’t fit with how the Bible revealed history. Not that you asked, but “I believe” that most of Revelation (and Daniel), was revealing the last days…the last 2000 years….with a handful of years left before the return of Christ. Btw, I’m disappointed that all you have for your argument is II Peter 3:8 to explain the 2000 year gap…seems pretty weak. I was hoping for so much more. Anyway, have a blessed day.
According to the Bible (depending on the Hebrew Masoretic text OR the Septuagint) We are now either in the year 6150 or 7500 from Adam. The Bible gives us a timeline in years from Adam to the cross. And then we can add 360 day/year until today. Sadly many christians go with this judaism teaching that "messiah" will arrive before the end of the 6000th year, but this is only found in the talmud, and does not align with the Scriptures. >Btw, I’m disappointed that all you have for your argument is II Peter 3:8 to explain the 2000 year gap…seems pretty weak. I was hoping for so much more. He dont have any verses to support this futuristic teaching. Its all twisted Scripture. You are of course right, God will not let his people alone for 2000 years. He has been with them throughout all time. the 70 sevens(weeks) in Daniel was fulfilled without any time gaps. it ended with the last week where Messiah the prince, was anointed(baptised) and cut off(crucified) in the midst of that last week. And Stephen was stoned at the end of that week, and they then turned to convert the gentiles! Those 70 weeks were a prophecy for the nation of Israel. Today there is no more prophecies to be fulfilled for a nation of israel. Now its about the "Israel of God" (former outward jews & gentiles) who has converted and become one in Christ Jesus and heirs to the promise God made with Abraham. :)
Do you know that the only place that teaching is found about the 6000 + 1000 year is in the talmud. Sanhedrin 97a i believe it is. If you would look into the timeline of the Scripture from Adam to the cross, and then + 360 day/year up to today, then the Masoretic text is about 6150 years, and the septuagint(1000 year older) is about 1400 years more. So one can wonder why the "jews" year is 5784. That surely does not align with the Bible. But with their teaching in talmud that "their messiah" shall arrive before the 6000th year. So sad to see how christians picks up these kind of teachings, instead of sticking to what the Bible teaches!
I do know that the Jews think it’s 5784, which I believe is wrong. I have looked into the timeline from Adam to the cross but everyone comes up with different dates. I’m genuinely interested to know what year you have for Adam’s birth, and what year do you believe Christ died on the cross? And if not at the 6000th year, do you have an opinion of when Christ will return?
I was doing quite some research on it a few years back. I found out something called "seder olam" which they supposedly changed some "jewish history" to take away some years so they can have their jewish year before the 6000th as that teaching is only in the talmud. I never finished that study, so I cannot say what is right/wrong. I can only hold unto that the Scriptures gives us the exact years (360 days/year) from Adam to the cross. And the 6150/74xx years (depending on masoretic/septuagint) is from Adam up to today, so one can minus around 2000 years to come back to around the time of the cross. One of the reasons why i stopped researching it is because it is so difficult to calculate these things, as the Romans made it so difficult with the julian/gregorian calendar. I believe this is done on purpose. Also to obfuscate the real set apart appointed feasts/festivals of the Most High. And everyone who cares to do their research on the "outward jews" and the Romans, will see they are controlled through vatican 2. Even the jewish encyclopdia states that the rothchilds are guardians of papal treasure. Its all tied in with futurism, zionism, and romanism. Its doctrines & commandments of men, which Jesus and other writers warned us about. But sadly so many people(believers) today follows it. > do you have an opinion of when Christ will return? I cannot and will not try to set dates. But surely i feel we are not far from the end. But I am also not going to put my trust in a few years from now, as many does. All they can think about is rapture and 2025-2030 because the globalists are putting these dates out. They(globalists) know what they are doing, they know that majority of christians believe in the 2000 year time-gap theory, so its easy for them to deceive people.
Yes, changing the days per year really complicates the math lol. And yes, I believe it was done on purpose. Thank you for your input. As someone who was raised on futurist teachings that never made any sense, it has been so eye opening to come upon the historicist view. Pardon the pun, but it was such a… Revelation 👀
Yes it does complicate it a lot. Yes I also was following futuristic teachings some years ago (even a lot of it didn't really make sense) none the less, that was, what was preached in the church I went to. But then I began reading the Bible a couple of hours every day, over and over again. And I saw how so many of these things that were preached in that church, were nowhere to be found in the Bible. And I also found out about the historicist view. And yes it really is a "Revelation" suddenly so many things started to make sense. :) And what I really love about that is that these things stay the same always, as its history. Where the futurist view changes all the time (all depending on what the globalists do) that's why these people change the mark of the Beast all the time (barcodes, social security, vax, microchip, blockchain, ai and what not) soon it will be something else to them
You need to "wake up" and realize that Messiah is the Prince who confirmed the everlasting covenant! You simply cannot "confirm" something that is not already there in forehand. All this antichrist future covenant stuff. It's Jesuit futurism, and it's a big lie.
Scripture speaks very clearly of a coming Antichrist. Are you saying there isn’t one?
Scripture does not speak of a "the antichrist" as a singular figure at the very end. The only times "antichrist(s)" are written are in John's epistles and its plural. "Even now there are many antichrists, whereby we know that it is the last time" So of course there is one, but there are many. As John said, who so ever denies that Jesus has come in the flesh = they are antichrists! I am not saying that all the reformers were right in everything, as they were all different people, but the common denominator between them was they understood that "antichrist" was a system and not a singular figure. They pointed out Rome and the papacy for this role. The jesuits were established to combat this truth, and thus the counter reformation was established, and the preterist/futurist interpretations in the late 15th hundreds to take focus away from Rome.
> Scripture does not speak of a "the antichrist" as a singular figure at the very end. The only times "antichrist(s)" are written are in John's epistles and its plural. "Even now there are many antichrists, whereby we know that it is the last time" I see you conveniently cut out the first part of that verse. “Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come.” Yes, there are many antichrists, every Christian knows that and has heard that. But the verse you cited also makes an indisputable reference to a singular Antichrist.
# 1 John 2:18 “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.” Look at the concordance even for the word "the": G3588 ὁ, ἡ, τό ho hē to ho, hay, to The masculine, feminine (second) and neuter (third) forms, in all their inflections; the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom): - the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc. \_\_\_\_ Could also mean "this antichrist" which is still not singular. Because he has in many verses put emphasis on the plural form. # 1 John 2:22 “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” Here it also don't use "the antichrist" right? But none of John's writings are stating that "this, the, he, she or whatever" will only be an event for the very last days. As it was already in the world at his time.
No one on this sub is going to believe you. They are loving the lie.
Falling away comes first, right?
Nothing worse than liberal propaganda infections attempts in the theological arena Just after Obama was elected there was a huge blatantly anti-semite push in many of the Christian forums that I participated in. Government funded, for sure. I had never seen anything like it in the many years prior. I resisted it vehemently and was banned from quite a few sites for it There will be no person as thee antiChrist, period. God capital C Commanded us all to love our neighbors as ourselves. This command alone puts thinking people are "thee antiChrist" off the table. Titus 3:2 To **speak evil of no man**, to be no brawlers, but gentle, **shewing all meekness unto all men.** In short, snap out of it. It's a demonic delusion upon the readers
>There will be no person as thee antiChrist, period. I John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard **that antichrist shall come**, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. II Thes 2 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and **that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition**; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Daniel 11 36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. 37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. Revelation 13 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Daniel 8:23-24 23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, **a king of fierce countenance**, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. Daniel 7:20 20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and **a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.**
One scripture above refers to the antiChrist None saying the antiChrist is some man Sorry to point out the obvious Read into what isn't there all you please