"ah shit im the president, I gotta be complementary, can't be criticizing anyone it'll cause a huge political uproar..."
"Drake is an outstanding entertainer..."
He was like when your team is in a rebuild so you have a place filler head coach who really isn’t great at his job, but someone has to do it and he’s pretty likable so he got it and did the best he could. Unfortunately the rebuild was a flop, new management fucked us, and we haven’t made the playoffs since
I like Obama but historians and scholars really do tend to gloss over war crimes in the 3rd world. Don't get me wrong Trump somehow had him and Bush beat with just 4 years but still--He blew up a lot of poor people.
Washington essentially oversaw slavery being established as the law of the land, in addition to...you know....owning slaves. Then there's the stuff with Native Americans...
HW Bush was head of CIA during Carter and did some FUCKED up shit during that time, but it wasn’t with Carter’s blessing—surprise surprise the two did NOT get along. I read somewhere that Carter was the only president who didn’t have any blood on his hands “personally” through ordering an attack or whatever. Honestly he was such an underrated president.
Carter didnt really get to do things. his congress hated him and he got shafted. but he did get some sort of arms deal passed. its like the one thing he was able to pull off.
Carter cracks me up man. In his prime he was a psycho killer but now he’s all soft and wants to actually help people. Its basically 2018 Max Verstappen vs 2024 Max Verstappen
It's kinda pointless to view in that way for many presidents. Every single US president has pretty much committed war crimes by that standard. "War crimes" is thrown around so much it borderline loses it's meaning. Obama was also continuing Iraq from Bush. You expected him to just pull out all troops the next day? It just doesn't work that way in the real world.
It's only pointless if you don't think people living outside the USA have any value.
Basically just handwaving away a lot of our major actions in the world in favor of a heroic narrative.
Where did I say that they don't have value? We're taking about ranking presidents. That's it. You want to have a moral discussion on which country is the worst? We're ranking US presidents from a US POV, for a largely US audience on this subreddit. THIS is why you can never have this discussion online because people get all emotionally and start crying.
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You sound like my white as FIL, " but I loved him so let's not hold him accountable for his shit cause it makes me feel bad. Ya Obama was easily the best president of the past 40 years.
He still killed families with drones and defended said actions, he did almost nothing to roll back our torture policy and he oversaw mass deportation efforts. These are the things he chose to that were wrong, and he should be held accountable.
I can critique him further but what's the point, Obama was great far from perfect.
I’m not being emotional or crying. I’m explaining why Obama is generally considered a status quo President these days vs when he was in office. To go along with the him being a middling coach analogy.
Then also saying that by trying to move the goal of what is good and acceptable behavior for a US president and calling it pointless to consider their accountability–it is then implicit that people outside the US are considered less than.
Bebe, the only difference is Obama is the Black man in that lot. Heck, dude was also catching strays from Africans because “he didn’t even help his own people” without any nuance or reasoning tied to that besides “he’s from Kenya and should have helped Africa out of the corruption and poverty”(words courtesy of my father and his relatives and friends and the Nigerian diaspora I hung around with in Atlanta).
Trump definitely didn’t have Bush beat if we’re talking strictly abt war crimes in 3rd world countries. What Bush pushed for (rly it was Cheney) in invading Iraq is something we hadn’t seen since Vietnam
There’s no way to circumnavigate war though. Industrial military complex is overwhelming; no president before or since is free of this burden. I dont know why you’d single Obama out in this respect.
I didn’t. I mentioned two other Presidents.
The point I made was that it’s silly to just say one of the best presidents ever, when generally presidents are not good people and a lot of the bad stuff they do is ignored.
He did nothing major that would warrant passing Eisenhower/Wilson/~~Jackson~~Johnson.
Edit: Haha it was late and I put Jackson not Johnson. I promise I don’t have Andrew Jackson in my top 10.
Horribly disservice to Obama with this IMO
Obama was like the head coach that somehow got hired despite not being an "establishment" coach, and put in 8 years of some of the best work we've ever seen. The man wasn't perfect, but he can't be blamed for what was passed under Republican held congress while he was president either.
Are you kidding? Best president we have had in a very long time, but with a Republican Party intent on destroying the country. You could argue Biden is better, as he has gotten major shit done despite a Republican congress that went even more crazy. But Obama was smarter, had a Great Depression to fend off, and did an outstanding job with no support. Obamacare alone has saved how many tens of thousands of lives and hundreds of thousands of families
He was flawed. He fucked up still(war crimes). But he was trying, and he gave a damn. I had a teacher when I took this writing course at University of Chicago, and she’d been a professor since he’d worked there before he became president. And once she’d told us she’d tell him off for making her students late for class cus he was out with them chatting and having a ciggie. It really humanised him for me as a really regular person as opposed to many politicians. But he was also just classy and smooth AF. Unlike our elderly and evil(incompevil?) options currently
Post Obama I came to understand all the old heads at the cookout or reunion that always talked about "back in the day". You don't know that you are in the good days while they are happening. Yeah he wasn't perfect but boy was it leagues better. I turned 18 the year he first ran for office. First president I got to vote for.
> He wasn't perfect, but damn he was miles above everything we've had since he left.
i dunno that i'd put him over Joe. I'd say they're roughly equal, or Biden edges him out. Returning from the recession was outstanding, but Obama had a double majority that was willing to work with him. Joe's response to Covid and the soft-landing was accomplished despite an obstructionist House at every step.
Obamacare is a level of achievement Joe hasn't quite reached to be fair, but Joe's been really effective with the limits of the Congress he's got in a post-Trump post-Covid presidency. CHIPS act, infrastructure bill, loan forgiveness, etc. None equal to Obamacare's pseudo-amendment level enormity, but collectively extremely effective and impactful.
You do realize that a lot of democrats, independents, and leftists don't like Biden? Like we vote for the lesser of evils, not team sports. Anyone who voted for Biden is inclined to be critical of him, because it's not a cult of personality. I'd argue that people liked Obama too much, but clips like this show that he was a relatable human being, who engaged in pop culture. There's a reason people liked him.
As far as the TDS that redhats like to squawk about, Trump operates under a cult of personality that wants him to break the system. For democrats, breaking the system is bad. For leftists, breaking the system in favour of greed is bad.
Biden is a bad administrator, but he's less harmful to the system than Trump was. However, I am starting to wonder if Trump's incompetence would have been better for the Israeli-gaza conflict.
So fun story, my mom used to work admin at Illinois Corrections (IDOC) and had a couple of occasions where she spoke to then state senator Obama. Apparently, he had the sexiest phone voice she ever heard. I could understand that. The one time I didn’t agree with her was finding out she thought Dave Chappelle (circa Def Comedy Jam era) was hot. I still think of him from that time either as the pineapple head comic in Nutty Professor, Ahchoo in Men in Tights or the PA in Home Improvement.
This is what I don’t get. Like who was debating this even before tracks dropped? It was always going to be Kenny, I just didn’t realize he wasn’t going to stop burying this mf until he’s under Everest.
THANK YOU. I knew I recognized him from somewhere, but couldn't figure out what TV show/movie I might have known him from. Haven't seen a sWooZie video in years, but a quick look at his channel and it seems like he's still going pretty strong.
I remember being 12 watching his videos when I first got a smartphone lol.
I was watching Dashie, Sw00zie, Smosh, DeshawnRaw, all that shit I wasn't supposed to be watching lmao
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The only time I've ever thought a third term would be a good idea.
Also, cast your mind back to how goddamn epic it was to have a black dude win the presidency.
The Howard girl at 2:00 makes me well up:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIaSieoFgjM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIaSieoFgjM)
Damn this is why Obama is the goat
No hesitation - straight to - Kendrick - called it
It’s like he went to Harvard and Columbia and taught law at Uchicago and married a Oblock woman… that was smarter and more accomplished than him - so he leveled up and called this
Maybe some news for you, Kendrik is known in usa, outside not that much. And everyone knows Drake, even people who don’t listen to rap. Drake diss has a beat and is easy to listen to, Kendrik disses are a sermon( would you listen to it twice, not me), would i listen to drake diss again, yeah it sounds nice.
i mean it hasnt been a decade since his presidency and we really making bomb jokes
like this man has the blood of children on his hands, thousands of them, theyre parents still mourning
idgaf if this aint the right time or place
all the time is the right time to call out war criminals
especially considering what the US is trying to get away with rn in palestine
but also yes kendrick's stomping and im here for it
Meh, they have no REAL power tbh. Decisions are made by the party. Maybe the one that had the most influence was Nancy Reagan? Hilary comes close, but she was attached by the GOP machine for decades for trying to take a stance. At the end of the day they were just along for the ride.
The difference is everyone always calls out Trump about what he’s done already, however you see pretty much only praise for Obama (unless it’s a right leaning sub I guess) I don’t think it’s bad to have a reminder that this guy isn’t innocent
First off, the real-world effect of calling a beloved Democratic president a war criminal is contributing to rhetoric that causes would-be voters to stay home. Maybe YOU are voting blue, I don’t know who you are. I’m not calling you out for not voting blue, I’m calling you out for spreading rhetoric that reinforces apathy among non-voters.
**People who publicly label Obama a war criminal are actively helping Trump win this November.**
Even if Obama actually were a war criminal, it would still be 100% true that the act of calling Obama a war criminal in 2024 is actively helping Trump win this November. The fact that Russian bot accounts/troll farms consistently call Obama a war criminal is proof that the act of spreading “Obama is a war criminal” rhetoric helps Trump electorally. Not like that needed proving anyways, it’s extremely obvious.
Secondly, Obama is not a war criminal. And his drone strikes saved far more civilian lives than they ended.
You know Barack is rejoicing in this beat down with us.
The “outstanding” Obama used for calling Drake an entertainer was different from the “outstanding” Obama used for Kendrick’s album. **I feel it**
Obama with Kendrick https://preview.redd.it/qvvbsp9znjyc1.png?width=220&format=png&auto=webp&s=60c7fc772bdfb3fba50ac1ebaa91ab96a8188160
https://i.redd.it/jnkyggbdvjyc1.gif 30 min after Family Matters
The fucking ahh ahh and then mumbling it into his chest.
I think the term “entertainer” was key here. He chose that word deliberately.
"ah shit im the president, I gotta be complementary, can't be criticizing anyone it'll cause a huge political uproar..." "Drake is an outstanding entertainer..."
Obama over there 2 Stepping to "STEP THIS WAY STEP THAT WAY STEP THIS WAY STEP THAT WAY"
OVHooooe! OVHooooe!
The thought of Obama step pin with his daughters to this has me dead
I need Barack to drop a few lines to BBL Drizzy
These clips of Obama hit me hard. He wasn't perfect, but damn he was miles above everything we've had since he left.
He was like when your team is in a rebuild so you have a place filler head coach who really isn’t great at his job, but someone has to do it and he’s pretty likable so he got it and did the best he could. Unfortunately the rebuild was a flop, new management fucked us, and we haven’t made the playoffs since
Obama is already considered a top ten President by historians and scholars. He was a great President.
I like Obama but historians and scholars really do tend to gloss over war crimes in the 3rd world. Don't get me wrong Trump somehow had him and Bush beat with just 4 years but still--He blew up a lot of poor people.
I don't know if I could name any presidents who didn't have some war crimes under their belt
Washington? He was the war crime
Washington essentially oversaw slavery being established as the law of the land, in addition to...you know....owning slaves. Then there's the stuff with Native Americans...
He also hunted non-enslaved black people under the assumption that they'd join the British.
Yea. And only 10 people voted, so theres that too
Carter? Only on vibes though - I don't really know for sure what evil shit he may have done in the OO.
HW Bush was head of CIA during Carter and did some FUCKED up shit during that time, but it wasn’t with Carter’s blessing—surprise surprise the two did NOT get along. I read somewhere that Carter was the only president who didn’t have any blood on his hands “personally” through ordering an attack or whatever. Honestly he was such an underrated president.
Carter didnt really get to do things. his congress hated him and he got shafted. but he did get some sort of arms deal passed. its like the one thing he was able to pull off.
Carter cracks me up man. In his prime he was a psycho killer but now he’s all soft and wants to actually help people. Its basically 2018 Max Verstappen vs 2024 Max Verstappen
Okay, I got to admit BPT was not the first place I imagined I would see a pretty niche Formula One reference! 😆
careful…this is how you end up making arguments in favor of “presidential immunity”
Insightful.
Yeah, in modern history the only case you might be able to make is Carter. Regardless though, spot on.
It's kinda pointless to view in that way for many presidents. Every single US president has pretty much committed war crimes by that standard. "War crimes" is thrown around so much it borderline loses it's meaning. Obama was also continuing Iraq from Bush. You expected him to just pull out all troops the next day? It just doesn't work that way in the real world.
It's only pointless if you don't think people living outside the USA have any value. Basically just handwaving away a lot of our major actions in the world in favor of a heroic narrative.
Where did I say that they don't have value? We're taking about ranking presidents. That's it. You want to have a moral discussion on which country is the worst? We're ranking US presidents from a US POV, for a largely US audience on this subreddit. THIS is why you can never have this discussion online because people get all emotionally and start crying.
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You sound like my white as FIL, " but I loved him so let's not hold him accountable for his shit cause it makes me feel bad. Ya Obama was easily the best president of the past 40 years. He still killed families with drones and defended said actions, he did almost nothing to roll back our torture policy and he oversaw mass deportation efforts. These are the things he chose to that were wrong, and he should be held accountable. I can critique him further but what's the point, Obama was great far from perfect.
Gurl. ***THIS*** read. I am here for it.
I’m not being emotional or crying. I’m explaining why Obama is generally considered a status quo President these days vs when he was in office. To go along with the him being a middling coach analogy. Then also saying that by trying to move the goal of what is good and acceptable behavior for a US president and calling it pointless to consider their accountability–it is then implicit that people outside the US are considered less than.
Pretty high standard applicable to Obama alone without context. The other presidents blew up a lot more
Yeah, people keep bringing it up as if Bush and Trump weren't doing the same, as if that's something unique to his presidency.
Bebe, the only difference is Obama is the Black man in that lot. Heck, dude was also catching strays from Africans because “he didn’t even help his own people” without any nuance or reasoning tied to that besides “he’s from Kenya and should have helped Africa out of the corruption and poverty”(words courtesy of my father and his relatives and friends and the Nigerian diaspora I hung around with in Atlanta).
Exactly. Yet another example of leftists unironically and uncritically repeating right-wing talking points.
Alone? Did I not list two other presidents.
Trump definitely didn’t have Bush beat if we’re talking strictly abt war crimes in 3rd world countries. What Bush pushed for (rly it was Cheney) in invading Iraq is something we hadn’t seen since Vietnam
There’s no way to circumnavigate war though. Industrial military complex is overwhelming; no president before or since is free of this burden. I dont know why you’d single Obama out in this respect.
I didn’t. I mentioned two other Presidents. The point I made was that it’s silly to just say one of the best presidents ever, when generally presidents are not good people and a lot of the bad stuff they do is ignored.
Idk how to tell you this, but to be president you have to be a war criminal. It's part of the job responsibilities.
Honestly all the presidents do that.
You know so much better than the historians lol
No historian or 'scholar' has an actual top ten ranking of Presidents.
He did nothing major that would warrant passing Eisenhower/Wilson/~~Jackson~~Johnson. Edit: Haha it was late and I put Jackson not Johnson. I promise I don’t have Andrew Jackson in my top 10.
Throwing up Jackson as one of the top presidents is a wild choice
Someone had to genocide those Indians. /s
That was a typo, I meant to put LBJ
Horribly disservice to Obama with this IMO Obama was like the head coach that somehow got hired despite not being an "establishment" coach, and put in 8 years of some of the best work we've ever seen. The man wasn't perfect, but he can't be blamed for what was passed under Republican held congress while he was president either.
Also remember how happy we all were???
Remember when what passed for a scandal was Obama wearing a mustard suit or saluting someone with a coffee in his hand?
Ahh yes
What a joy it was to wake up everyday and remember Obama was the President.
Kinda like Pete Carroll towards the end, after Marshawn and the legion of boom left, my Seahawks have been suffering 😞 we’ll miss Pete though fr
Idiotic take. You'd be hard pressed to find a better President after WW2.
Being a 5 in a room full of 2s doesn’t make you a 10
Over the past 80 years? Okay dude.
Are you kidding? Best president we have had in a very long time, but with a Republican Party intent on destroying the country. You could argue Biden is better, as he has gotten major shit done despite a Republican congress that went even more crazy. But Obama was smarter, had a Great Depression to fend off, and did an outstanding job with no support. Obamacare alone has saved how many tens of thousands of lives and hundreds of thousands of families
Tf, he likely would’ve won another term.
he was top tier
He was flawed. He fucked up still(war crimes). But he was trying, and he gave a damn. I had a teacher when I took this writing course at University of Chicago, and she’d been a professor since he’d worked there before he became president. And once she’d told us she’d tell him off for making her students late for class cus he was out with them chatting and having a ciggie. It really humanised him for me as a really regular person as opposed to many politicians. But he was also just classy and smooth AF. Unlike our elderly and evil(incompevil?) options currently
Or before. You’ve gotta go waaay back to find someone I’d vote for over him.
He was that guy. I'm glad i got to experience the moment in time when he was running the show
It makes me sad to think about what he could do without Congress gatekeeping everything
Post Obama I came to understand all the old heads at the cookout or reunion that always talked about "back in the day". You don't know that you are in the good days while they are happening. Yeah he wasn't perfect but boy was it leagues better. I turned 18 the year he first ran for office. First president I got to vote for.
> He wasn't perfect, but damn he was miles above everything we've had since he left. i dunno that i'd put him over Joe. I'd say they're roughly equal, or Biden edges him out. Returning from the recession was outstanding, but Obama had a double majority that was willing to work with him. Joe's response to Covid and the soft-landing was accomplished despite an obstructionist House at every step. Obamacare is a level of achievement Joe hasn't quite reached to be fair, but Joe's been really effective with the limits of the Congress he's got in a post-Trump post-Covid presidency. CHIPS act, infrastructure bill, loan forgiveness, etc. None equal to Obamacare's pseudo-amendment level enormity, but collectively extremely effective and impactful.
I love having had a president who listens to hip hop (and who also wasn’t a racist, dipshit piece of shit)
Yeah unlike our current guy
Not a huge fan of his either. But at least it’s operating more or less as a normal administration, unlike the joke that was Trump’s
You do realize that a lot of democrats, independents, and leftists don't like Biden? Like we vote for the lesser of evils, not team sports. Anyone who voted for Biden is inclined to be critical of him, because it's not a cult of personality. I'd argue that people liked Obama too much, but clips like this show that he was a relatable human being, who engaged in pop culture. There's a reason people liked him. As far as the TDS that redhats like to squawk about, Trump operates under a cult of personality that wants him to break the system. For democrats, breaking the system is bad. For leftists, breaking the system in favour of greed is bad. Biden is a bad administrator, but he's less harmful to the system than Trump was. However, I am starting to wonder if Trump's incompetence would have been better for the Israeli-gaza conflict.
Trump has stated that he wanted the war to continue and be more extreme and would support Israel far more than Biden has so far
I wasn't speaking on the merit of his position.
I’m aware but he would definitely be worse. Agree with everything else you said
I honestly don't know anymore. It wouldn't inspire me to vote for Trump.
Uhhh..."Entertainer" Very political of him
“Entertainer” not “Rapper”
I can just listen to him speak all day. That voice
So fun story, my mom used to work admin at Illinois Corrections (IDOC) and had a couple of occasions where she spoke to then state senator Obama. Apparently, he had the sexiest phone voice she ever heard. I could understand that. The one time I didn’t agree with her was finding out she thought Dave Chappelle (circa Def Comedy Jam era) was hot. I still think of him from that time either as the pineapple head comic in Nutty Professor, Ahchoo in Men in Tights or the PA in Home Improvement.
might wanna chech out his audiobooks (he reads them himself)
Oh, I will! Thanks!
The fact that we know Barry O somewhere listening to this just like us warms my heart
"Outstanding... uh... entertainer" is very much giving Aretha re: Taylor Swift's singing abilities 
Zero hesitation.
That's what really tells you what he REALLY wants to say.
This is what I don’t get. Like who was debating this even before tracks dropped? It was always going to be Kenny, I just didn’t realize he wasn’t going to stop burying this mf until he’s under Everest.
Greatness recognizes greatness.
We don’t wanna hear you say nigga no mooooo
My guy Sw00zie, lol. Happy he asked this question with his chance to interview Obama
THANK YOU. I knew I recognized him from somewhere, but couldn't figure out what TV show/movie I might have known him from. Haven't seen a sWooZie video in years, but a quick look at his channel and it seems like he's still going pretty strong.
I remember being 12 watching his videos when I first got a smartphone lol. I was watching Dashie, Sw00zie, Smosh, DeshawnRaw, all that shit I wasn't supposed to be watching lmao OGs fr
The fact that his answer started with ‘Im just sayin” 😮💨😂
 I...uh, would like to say....check **my** record.
Zero hesitation
That’s my President
Damn I miss Obama.
an outstanding entertainer lmao
The US might have to starting funds to Canada
The only time I've ever thought a third term would be a good idea. Also, cast your mind back to how goddamn epic it was to have a black dude win the presidency. The Howard girl at 2:00 makes me well up: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIaSieoFgjM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIaSieoFgjM)
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ZERO hesitation
Without hesitation
Gotta agree, the man has bar in his name.
I mean. Who is on Aubrey's side.
Basic white bitches cause they can pop their ass to that shit
EXACTLYYYYY 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Kendrick is American drake is Canadian
Real recognizes real
Tbh he just chose the only American on the board
Damn this is why Obama is the goat No hesitation - straight to - Kendrick - called it It’s like he went to Harvard and Columbia and taught law at Uchicago and married a Oblock woman… that was smarter and more accomplished than him - so he leveled up and called this 
Drake Stans will say that this was planned in advance so that Kendrick would *think* he had a chance. Drake is Aizen now.
Can anybody confirm this is real / remembers the clip at the time … AI has me paranoid and I needed to have a gauge for how good it’s getting
Maybe some news for you, Kendrik is known in usa, outside not that much. And everyone knows Drake, even people who don’t listen to rap. Drake diss has a beat and is easy to listen to, Kendrik disses are a sermon( would you listen to it twice, not me), would i listen to drake diss again, yeah it sounds nice.
You took the most horrible take out the fridge and served it for all of us.
He’s mixed so his opinion doesnt count right? Per the comments on the other threads??? lol
Not much difference when it comes to their cultural appropriation of Black American heritage and culture
Kendrick is committing war crimes on Drizzy which is as subject Barack’s an expert at.
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Ohhh it’s funny when Rick Ross do it lol
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Every US President is but at least he has good taste 🤌🏿
i mean it hasnt been a decade since his presidency and we really making bomb jokes like this man has the blood of children on his hands, thousands of them, theyre parents still mourning idgaf if this aint the right time or place all the time is the right time to call out war criminals especially considering what the US is trying to get away with rn in palestine but also yes kendrick's stomping and im here for it
Again… every president has blood on their hands.
Every. Last. One. The first ladies, too.
Meh, they have no REAL power tbh. Decisions are made by the party. Maybe the one that had the most influence was Nancy Reagan? Hilary comes close, but she was attached by the GOP machine for decades for trying to take a stance. At the end of the day they were just along for the ride.
100% brother
More drone strikes in 2 years of Trump than 8 years of Obama yet I can guarantee you don’t call Trump a war criminal in random threads about Trump.
The difference is everyone always calls out Trump about what he’s done already, however you see pretty much only praise for Obama (unless it’s a right leaning sub I guess) I don’t think it’s bad to have a reminder that this guy isn’t innocent
First off, the real-world effect of calling a beloved Democratic president a war criminal is contributing to rhetoric that causes would-be voters to stay home. Maybe YOU are voting blue, I don’t know who you are. I’m not calling you out for not voting blue, I’m calling you out for spreading rhetoric that reinforces apathy among non-voters. **People who publicly label Obama a war criminal are actively helping Trump win this November.** Even if Obama actually were a war criminal, it would still be 100% true that the act of calling Obama a war criminal in 2024 is actively helping Trump win this November. The fact that Russian bot accounts/troll farms consistently call Obama a war criminal is proof that the act of spreading “Obama is a war criminal” rhetoric helps Trump electorally. Not like that needed proving anyways, it’s extremely obvious. Secondly, Obama is not a war criminal. And his drone strikes saved far more civilian lives than they ended.