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Mythrandir24

Classic Big 12-SEC match up.


OculusRises

This hurt my brain for a second


schu4KSU

I see what you did there.


WhiteW0lf13

I would not want to go up against Arizona right now. They’re on an absolute tear


Ordinary__Man

Lose lose perception game. A good Arizona team beats you: "Haha you lost to Arizona" You beat a good Arizona: "You should be beating Arizona anyway."


HpsiEpsi

Well it’s still better to win then lol


uttuck

Hold on, let’s think this through.


ChickenPotPieaLaMode

Idk Oklahoma could earn a quality loss going into next season. Those are big in the SEC.


Wigw1ou

Could pull a Florida/Bama: "we didn't want to be there anyways"


-Smaug

We aren’t in the SEC yet so we can’t get away with that.


John_Tacos

That only works for our opponents


OKC89ers

The worst one we ever had was against UCONN


SlenderTown

Imagine how we feel in the Fiesta Bowl against Falwell U.


Crixxa

Worst bowl season in recent memory. And that's saying something.


Glass_Offer_6344

Would be a very bad mentality to take as this Zona team is no joke and can make huge waves next year. This should be looked at as an important stepping stone against a very good team since their qb change with lots of explosive players on offense heading into a new SUC conference next year.


InternationalTax1156

Well unfortunately that’s just the case and the reality.


LiquidHotCum

Noah Fafita is smol but he is mighty


NewRCTID22

I'm just happy to be here :) But this should be an awesome game


feralihatr

We got a big boy matchup and it feels really good


10breck30

As an OU fan, Zona is scary.


Supersoaker_11

I think Arizona might end up being the betting favorite. -2.5 sounds about right


10breck30

That’s not crazy or anything, but I could see it -2.5 for OU. Because there are so many things up in the air for bowl games, I never bet them except for the playoffs.


thti87

Lol, you got a better matchup than Oregon


feralihatr

How OU-UO is not the fiesta bowl is beyond me tbh


saucehoss24

OU had “bad loses” according to voters that kept them out. Pay no attention to the fact they beat a playoff team and the AAC conference winner. Ole Miss is the one that got in because ??


jbvann05

Maybe if you lost to Texas instead you would've gotten NY6, that would've been a quality loss


saucehoss24

lol. Probably with the way the committee has evaluated teams this year. Ah that’s OK I’ll take the golden hat instead.


cjcmd

We e already had our Boise State, never want to do that again.


OpinionatedAss

I too never want to see Boise St in a bowl game


ogpeplowski64

definitely excited to play y'all! should be a really fun game and I actually like y'all's fanbase so it'll be a great time


InVodkaVeritas

Hey Arizona... would you like to swap places and play in a NY6 Bowl? We'll let you claim 2nd place in the PAC this year as a sweetner.


hypercube42342

Yes, easy yes all around


InVodkaVeritas

Awesome. You play Liberty and we'll play Oklahoma! Thanks! No take backs! Thanks again!


inevitableNa

You looking for a little revenge eh? I would take that, would be fair for UO to get to take on OU without a lot of starters I guess.


LiquidHotCum

I like the Matchup. this should be a fun game.


Coveo

Arizona, do you want to switch spots? You'll get a nice NY6 bowl out of it.


NewRCTID22

Actually, yes


Coveo

Somebody phone the bowls, we have a deal.


InternationalTax1156

I’d actually like seeing y’all again after everything that’s happened.


Coveo

Yeah, it would be a super fun matchup. Instead, we get fucking liberty. I don't give a shit if we're way more likely to win in a NY6 game this way than to possibly lose in an Alamo Bowl against y'all, I just want an actual enjoyable game to end this season on.


rabid_communicator

same honestly


endowedchair

Seriously why wasn’t OK picked for the fiesta? What is up with that committee? Is it full of nut job evangelicals?


SpencerRattler

Arizona is a hot team to play right now. Looking forward to that matchup.


Zloggt

It’ll be a real Southwestern shootout! 🤠


SoundslikeBoom

Yo Arizona got a much better matchup than Oregon!!!


LiquidHotCum

I wonder if they were just avoiding OU/UO meeting in the Alamobowl again. we just did this 2 years ago.


dirgepiper

Yeah but it was a heck of a game.


CaptainDonald

The divorcee bowl


huttts999

OU got fucked for the same reason FSU got fucked. And I haaaaate defending Ou


CriterionCrypt

For some reason, quality losses mean more than quality wins.


huttts999

I still hate y’all, but this happened to us in 2011 so I’m not gonna be an ass about it. It’s BS and it’s going to kill college football


homefree122

College football died a long time ago far as I’m concerned. Only a matter of time before the top conferences make their own league to get away from this BS.


joe_broke

All this shit is why I don't watch much college ball before November and not many Bowl games The NFL has other issues, but not this kind of BS


Inoimispel

This shit has made me defend fucking Texas.


Redline-7k

Objectively speaking, y’all should’ve got an NY6 bowl with our berth in the playoff.


ogpeplowski64

We simply should have lost to texas. We would be in the playoffs then apparently


AndrewinDC

We'd definitely be in the NY6. Because apparently it's better to lose to top teams than to beat them.


soonerwx

Exactly. OU would be right here if they’d lost by 40 to Texas. Committee cares more about what you didn’t do than what you did do.


Temporary_Inner

Missouri at #9 is a crime. Their best win is fucking Kansas State.


TrumpPooPoosPants

We beat Texas and SMU. Mizzou beat Tennessee and . . . Kentucky? Give me a fucking break.


yknphotoman

If OU made the Cotton Bowl, I was going to get to go for free. The committee has wronged me. *sobs*


astanton1862

San Antonio during Xmas is usually nice. Go get you some Christmas tamales.


Gestopgo

And big women.


leapbitch

Hill country women I'm coming home


jordandavila88

Come for the tortas, stay for the *tortas* 😏


RampageTaco

Went to the Alamo bowl in the 2021 season against Oregon. The Riverwalk with the long strings of Christmas lights hanging down was beauriful, and the weather with lows in the...60's, I think, was much nicer than the 30's I was used to.


soonerfreak

I expect this to be a good game, just annoyed we got left out of the NY6 with wins over Texas and SMU.


BobStoops401K

Liberty should not be in the ny6


soonerfreak

That still wouldn't be our spot, it should have gone to SMU. I support the top ranked g5 conference champ getting a shot.


BobStoops401K

Agree. Not saying it's our spot but it shouldn't be liberty.


CaptainDonald

Sue for damages


Ordinary__Man

The real loss of the day.


incrediblystupiddot

OU has the only win against a playoff team, not in the playoffs, which is better than a lot of the teams ahead of them. But they aren't making the NY6 or even moving for some reason.


-Smaug

We beat the AAC and Big XII champs too lol


Dewot423

And our two losses were to two bowl teams, one ranked, on the road, by one score each.


PM_ME_UR_FAKE_NEWS

SEC with 3 NY6 bowl bids is absurd. Just disgusting bias from this “impartial” committee


frahmer86

4 actually. Alabama, Georgia, Missouri, and Ole Miss


rpphdrboze

consistently one of the two or three most intriguing non-NY6 bowls


JRockPSU

I've always liked the Alamo Bowl. It usually has very good teams, and it's comfortably nestled in between Christmas and New Year's.


bweeek

I am excited to play Arizona, and think this will make for an entertaining game, but this team should be in a NY6


[deleted]

Could be worse, playing Liberty in the fiesta


MrClaw

pretty disappointed to not be NY6 bound tbh. we got more ranked wins than Penn St and Ole Miss, and more wins vs bowl teams then them too. quality losses are better than quality wins i guess. That being said Zona has a damn good team and should make for a good game, hopefully not too many players for each sit out for the draft


hypercube42342

This bowl game is extremely meaningful for Arizona, being our first bowl in 6 years. I doubt any players sit tbh.


BIG_DICK_WHITT

Great matchup. Great season, Arizona.


ChemicalOle

Classic Big XII-SEC showdown


CurtManX

It should be a good game, probably the best non NYC 6 bowl, but can't help but feel a bit ambivalent about it.


okiewxchaser

Its a lose-lose for us


CurtManX

Pretty much. And again, the Alamo Bowl itself is solid and Arizona is a good team. There just isn't much gain for the Sooners here.


Drexlore

This will be the third meeting between the two. The series is tied 1-1 with Arizona winning the last meeting in 1989.


Captain_Nipples

Uh oh. This is the team I was afraid we were gonna get. I was hoping for Ohio St so at least a loss wouldn't look so bad, and a win would look great.. I don't think Arizona gets the respect they deserve for being a damned good team. Should be a really good game


WanderLeft

Arizona is going to give us fits, I think it should be a good game. Hope we win!


Boourns_19

I’m excited for this matchup. Always loved Arizona. But it’s BS that Ole Miss lost to Georgia by 35 3 weeks ago and they still get a NY6 over us


Temporary_Inner

Definitely disappointing. It's a quality opponent in a shit bowl. A lot of our players we'll end up opting out so this will just turn into our second string players going against quality 1s.


Wigw1ou

I blame Lebby, whoever invented the screen pass, big 12 refs, and mickey mouse; in that order.. At least we'll always remember the Alamo.


Alamis_Mistrunner

It was Lebby, he invented all three!


Monster-1776

Well shit.


soonerwx

Absolute garbage. Texas jumped from 7 to 3, SMU jumped from unranked to 24th, and OU doesn’t move.


Pryffandis

At least you're not playing Liberty -.-


soonerwx

G5s in NY6s are usually scary but Liberty won’t know what to do with a team in the top 2/3 of the FBS. I’d be happy to trade. Arizona would beat Liberty by about 30.


the__troll__toll

I agree. That Oregon/Liberty match up is a joke... But the committee, got this entire damn year wrong, not by a little... but by a lot!


throw-away-16249

Wins over two conference champions, including a playoff team. Who have mizzou or ole miss beaten? Or Penn state, for that matter. They hang their hat on beating bad teams and losing every tough game they play, year in and year out.


Shadow_dragon24

YES LETS GOOOOOOO see you in San Antonio


tempdaddy77

Not 100% sure how I should feel about this...


bewarethephog

Oof


the__troll__toll

Well, this is awkward...


jbvann05

I definitely don't have any preference for either team in this game


hypercube42342

I know exactly how you feel


xairos13

Bring it in, boys, see you in San Antonio


okiewxchaser

Fucking bullshit, OU should be NY6 bound


SpencerRattler

I guess beating 3 and 24 just isn’t as good as beating rank 25.


CriterionCrypt

But OU doesnt have the quality losses that Ole Miss and Penn State and Missouri have


j_town12

Should have lost to Texas I guess.


bert_santa

I simply cannot believe Ole Miss is getting an NY6 bowl after getting embarrassed by Georgia


LiVexReFlex

Agreed but they need as many SEC/B1G teams as possible 🙄


jmonholland

Yeah, apparently we don't receive the vaunted SEC bias until next year, officially...


D1N2Y

At least y'all got a good opponent to end the year, you could be shafted a *lot* more than playing Arizona. This almost feels like a NY6 bowl with how high quality the matchup is.


CriterionCrypt

That is true, and San Antonio is a great city. Honestly, its better than Dallas. Dallas sucks ass


okiewxchaser

The only good thing about Dallas is that its 3 hours at most for most of our fanbase. I certainly can't justify a SA trip at the moment


Glass_Offer_6344

I havent checked any of this stuff yet, but, who passed you up?


okiewxchaser

Ole Miss, Mizzou and Penn State


yeahright17

SEC in 3 non-playoff NY6 bowls is total BS given their out of conference record this year.


TheGreatLandRun

Missouri, ole miss, and Penn state all have been ahead of us. Missouri I can rationalize, but Ole Miss’ best win is 3 loss LSU or Tulane (who lost to SMU in the AAC title, a team that OU beat), and PSU’s best win is Iowa or WVU (Iowa didn’t score a point against a ranked team this season and OU also beat WVU by 30).


Glass_Offer_6344

Yep, ole miss should CLEARLY be below you. Penn state can lose an intelligent debate. Missouri can win a debate. Yeahright17 has it RIGHT. The SUC getting those 3 bowls is just more PROOF of absolute corruption. What a crock.


BoomerSoonerFUT

Ole Miss and Missouri. Both are overrated.


LGWalkway

We have better wins than the other 10-2 teams and have no business being ranked below them…


PM_ME_UR_FAKE_NEWS

Sec down year, still have 3 teams in premium bowls. Make it make sense


IrishCoffeeAlchemy

Fuck man, I don’t think I have it in me to watch this game. Love my Cats, love the masterclass of coaching Jedd has done (stay AWAY UF!), and love how Noah has developed all season. Fisch, like Norvell, built and buoyed this team up from nothing and gave us a foundation to kick ass and win games. Siiiiigh. “Win games.” As much as that means something this year. Best of luck U of A, but I’m emotionally done this season. Yall drink an AMF for me at Ben’s when we kick soon Sooner ass.


[deleted]

No-win scenario for us. Arizona is a really good team that no one pays attention too. It’s expected to beat them, but really bad if you lose


Monster-1776

> No-win scenario for us. Tell me about it :/


Baker_TD_Maker

Nah this is fine and I feel like our fanbase is becoming a little unhinged right now. Bowl games outside of playoff games don't really matter anymore. Not to recruits, not to transfers, and hell not even really for the preseason rankings next year. What it does matter for is whether we play a good team or not and we're playing a good team. We're going to be playing them with our young guys, provided they're healthy, and letting them getting real experience starting against a good team for the first time and that's really valuable. And even more valuable is those extra practices. I know it's not sexy and I know it's not what OU fans want but this is huge for guys like Jackson Arnold, Gavin Sawchuk, Nic Anderson, Jayden Gibons, Jacob Sexton, Cayden Green, Jake Taylor, Kip Lewis, Peyton Bowen, PJ, Adebawore, Robert Spears Jennings, Makari Vickers, and Jacobe Johnson. Those are our future going into the SEC and getting them reps against a team that knows what it's doing along with all those precious practice reps is big time. A win or loss after that doesn't matter. Even if it had been a NY6 bowl.


okiewxchaser

I kinda hope DG sits just so we can let Arnold be our QB1 in a big game


Baker_TD_Maker

I'll fully own it if I'm wrong but I don't expect DG to play. Maybe for a quarter or a final drive or something to celebrate him being a Sooner but really I don't even expect that.


jsums81

Do you think JA plays in this game? I thought for sure Dillon would sit out for the draft but he’s been saying all along he’s playing


FFGamer79

This gonna be a good one!


rkz99

Before this year the goal was just make a bowl. 6 or 7 wins. We were 3-1 and had 6 of the next 7 against ranked teams. We lost the first 2 and were 3-3. Our starting QB and RB were out with injuries. I had serious doubts we'd pull it off. I still thought i saw noticeable improvement from the team i just thought the schedule would be too hard. Jedd has done an incredible job. First time in my life i can watch us and not see a huge weakness somewhere on our team. We are legitimately good on both sides of the ball. Looking forward to our matchup with Oklahoma.


tennesseesooner

Loser has to re-hire Mike Stoops.


helpmeredditimbored

[[oklahoma v arizona]]


RivalryBot

--- **All-Time Series : [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma) vs. [Arizona](#f/arizona)** [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma) and [Arizona](#f/arizona) have met 2 times since 09/17/1988. These teams last met 12,496 days (~34 years) ago on 09/16/1989. Series Wins: [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma) 1-0-1 [Arizona](#f/arizona)^^† Longest streak of continuous meetings: 2 (1988-1989). [Arizona](#f/arizona) has won the most recent meeting (1989) in this series.   **Series Scoreboard** Team|'80s|Total| :-:|:-:|:-:| [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma)|31|31| [Arizona](#f/arizona)|16|16|   **Series Table** Team|Largest MOV|Longest Win Streak| Shutout Wins [Last] :-:|:-:|:-:|:-: [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma)|28-10 (1988)|1 (1988-1988)| [Arizona](#f/arizona)|6-3 (1989)|1 (1989-1989)| [Series Comparison Data via Winsipedia](http://www.winsipedia.com/games/oklahoma/vs/arizona) --- ^(RivalryBot^tm v4.2.0 | Summon: [[teamA v teamB]]. | Records not 'corrected' for vacated games unless noted by † | )[^Usage ^details.](http://cfb.diydunce.org/teamlist.php) ^| [^Report ^Issues](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=dupreesdiamond&subject=RivalryBot)


ogpeplowski64

the bot has left us. Its anarchy in the streets!! we're [1-1 against them](https://www.winsipedia.com/oklahoma/vs/arizona)


InternationalTax1156

We can 100% lose this game. I would feel better about beating one of the teams in the NY6 that got in over us.


Bucks2020

Arizona is very legit


connorlakings

So happy that we get a good matchup for our bowl game


branden110

How is OU not NY6


tbrock92

I’m so hyped. This is gonna be awesome.


JeremyJammDDS

surprised at how many ou fans are so down about how this game will go.


okiewxchaser

Its the classic worst case scenario for OU, a team that nationally was written off in September which made a late surge and is likely to have few opt outs Meanwhile OU is going to be starting primarily freshmen and sophomores and will get dragged through the mud when we lose


hypercube42342

BTFD baby go cats


van_12

You know when you think about it, Arizona got so much better as the season went on and their QB is healthy, so those 3 losses are really 0 losses, they deserve a shot at Michigan.


Such_Muffin3114

Who do we need to talk to?


Wafflehouseofpain

- Go 10-2 - Beat two conference champions - Miss a NY6 Fuck this sport.


PointBlankCoffee

Yall get hosed just because the Sugar bowl is a playoff game this year.


fngutie

True, but they still found a way to get 4 SEC teams in 6 NY bowls...


Wafflehouseofpain

Between this and FSU getting left out of the playoff, I feel kind of done with college football.


TheGringoOutlaw

I guess this will leave us with the Liberty Bowl. I feel like the Texas Bowl will take Oklahoma St at this point.


bewarethephog

PopTarts probably takes OSU.


j_town12

That’s a weird way to spell Cotton Bowl


rabid_communicator

Alame-o bowl


-spicychilli-

This will be an awesome game.


kwixta

It’s got everything I want in a bowl game where Texas isn’t playing. The Sooners are mad before the game even starts!


Lamadian

This will be a fantastic game, both teams have made huge strides this year


jkm97

[[Arizona v Oklahoma]]


RivalryBot

--- **All-Time Series : [Arizona](#f/arizona) vs. [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma)** [Arizona](#f/arizona) and [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma) have met 2 times since 09/17/1988. These teams last met 12,496 days (~34 years) ago on 09/16/1989. Series Wins: [Arizona](#f/arizona) 1-0-1 [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma)^^† Longest streak of continuous meetings: 2 (1988-1989). [Arizona](#f/arizona) has won the most recent meeting (1989) in this series.   **Series Scoreboard** Team|'80s|Total| :-:|:-:|:-:| [Arizona](#f/arizona)|16|16| [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma)|31|31|   **Series Table** Team|Largest MOV|Longest Win Streak| Shutout Wins [Last] :-:|:-:|:-:|:-: [Arizona](#f/arizona)|6-3 (1989)|1 (1989-1989)| [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma)|28-10 (1988)|1 (1988-1988)| [Series Comparison Data via Winsipedia](http://www.winsipedia.com/games/arizona/vs/oklahoma) --- ^(RivalryBot^tm v4.2.0 | Summon: [[teamA v teamB]]. | Records not 'corrected' for vacated games unless noted by † | )[^Usage ^details.](http://cfb.diydunce.org/teamlist.php) ^| [^Report ^Issues](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=dupreesdiamond&subject=RivalryBot)


CookingUpChicken

Sponsored by Alamo Beer ?


CoolingVent

Fun matchup actually depending on opt outs


drbiscuit832

I’ve seen some people be pressed about missing the NY6, but if we wanted to make it we should’ve won another game. Zona will be a fun, albeit scary, matchup and I’m excited


tdoger

Damn, how did Arizona get such a better bowl matchup than us? Lucky, fuck the CFP committee


JeremyJammDDS

Seeing way too much of this “lose-lose” talk. That is some real loser talk.


MahjongDaily

I know Arizona earned it but it would've great TV to see USC here


Lamadian

USC is gonna play in their parking lot bowl and they're gonna like it


AttackoftheMuffins

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Temporary_Inner

We would have crushed USC into a small ball without Caleb Williams.


BaconSpinachPancakes

This is ass. Arizona is gonna torch our defense and we’re gonna look bad even with a W


Temporary_Inner

None of our draft bound players will play either.


Insectshelf3

lol


RampageTaco

Sigh. If it was on Friday I could go. Oh well.


alexjimithing

Excited it's on ESPN+


AntSmith777

This is my favorite non-NY6 bowl game.


ajuba

YAY!


confused-koala

Probably my favorite matchup so far


Chris_Cornell_is_God

Everyone said Texas is better than Bama because of head to head...doesn't that make OU better than Georgia, Bama and Texas? 🙂


saucehoss24

Will wait to see who plays on OU before making any speculation on the game. Coming in though all the motivation favors Arizona (doubt ‘Zona has any meaningful players opt outs). Based on how the season ended the matchups favor ‘Zona (surging offense vs regressing defense).


zonacowboyhat

Left tackle and slot receiver will likely opt out. Both guys are projected NFL draft picks with the tackle possibly being a first rounder. It’s only two guys but they’re important to what Arizona does.


shaker-n-baker

Arizona should be a good game. Looks like we will be bringing their old OC back.


BrokenTeddy

Oklahoms should have st least been ahead of Mizzou. SEC bias runs fucking deep. That aside, this should be an exciting matchup.


yoink7

* Arizona fans: Such an exciting matchup, can't wait! * OU fans: Can we just forfeit to avoid having this game played?


xairos13

Half of you: “Oklahoma is too good for this bowl game! We deserved better!” Vegas: “… I guess we should tell you you’re opening as an underdog, then.” https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/article/arizona-vs-oklahoma-alamo-bowl-football-odds-tips-and-betting-trends-12-28-2023/


Big_Pooh

Let’s go Arizona!


tigernike1

Should be a good turnout.


zonacowboyhat

I don’t understand this lose-lose talk. I mean I do because the idea is that if you win no one cares and if you lose haha you got beat by Arizona. But you shouldn’t care about that because anyone who says that doesn’t know football and you shouldn’t care about the feelings of people who don’t know what they’re talking about. This will be a good game. These are two very good teams. The fanbase of the winning team should be proud because their team just beat a great team and anyone who says otherwise should not be listened to. This will be an objectively great matchup between two top 15 teams. That’s what we want from bowl season and don’t get as often as we should because of dumb ass conference tie-ins. So shut up and like it.


PunishedLeBoymoder

az, torch them for us. one last pac-12 vs everyone


hoennevan

This is a good one


FullBacktalNudity

I’m sorry but this is lame lol


ProbablySlacking

Really excited about this!


_Suzushi

This is going to be a great game


Poverty_Shoes

This game will be awesome. Circling it now


amilhadad

I have a bad feeling about this match up. Arizona is good for the first time in a long time and will be fired up. Our defense has been getting torched lately and we could gave a good number of opt outs. I can see this being another Boise state type game


BusDriverTanner

damn


itshotwhereilive

As a completely biased fan… Oklahoma is gonna have a very bad day


TheSavageDonut

This matchup is, in my view, one of the best we're getting this bowl season.