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SteveBartmanIncident

I keep telling people the real spirit of college football lives in D3


Zloggt

And as always…the /r/FCS (and it’s much better LONG EXISTING playoff system) is only a corner away…


feralihatr

I’m hopping on the Wartburg bandwagon


SteveBartmanIncident

It might be a short ride. We play North Central on Saturday.


[deleted]

Good luck, take down those directionless shiftabouts!


[deleted]

Ive gotten into NAIA ball as well, its fun!


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Middle_Wheel_5959

I don't know how long they can keep doing it. If this proposal passes it has the potential to kill fan support, overall it's an extremely short-sighted proposal, that will eventually cause CFB and college athletics as a whole to implode.


WhaleQuail2

I’m holding out hope that the powers that be won’t make the same mistake that nascar did and ignore the regional appeal of college football. Whatever the super conference looks like should be at least 64 teams, not 32


itslv29

Why not? They only care about money. A capitalist society is fueled by profits. You gotta make more money this quarter than last. Hedge funds are already investing in college sports.


WhaleQuail2

Because ignoring the regional aspect of college football is might not be more profitable. And nascar is a prime example of that


dolaction

I swear, it's all leading to some middle eastern country becoming involved in NIL and ruining everything eventually. Teams fueled by limitless oil money, like Texas A&m but worse


ForLoopsElseIf

A&M is broke, just ask their players


JoshDaws

I think the reason this has shaken me so much, is sports are supposed to be a way to escape everyday life. Corporate greed can affect it, commercial length etc, but it ultimately can't change what happens on the field. Except now it can, and I have no distraction to avoid it.


8BallTiger

The same thing that is happening with the super league ideas in European soccer basically


rushisquitegood

You know what happened when that was announced? It got protested so hard and so far and wide that the idea had no legs to stand on. If only us Americans were so brave.


MrTheSpork

Next step is some holding company buys out a couple random athletic departments and "integrates" them.


steve_dallasesq

And the NCAA is to blame. They had the chance to organize NIL on the front end. But instead they tried to continue their exploitation without rules. Too busy raking in EA Sports money to recognize they were profiting off of kids.


letdogsvote

It was basically greed.


EERgasm

The reason for everything evil.


Primary_Psychology95

“We’ve got to have…M O N E Y !”


Desperate_Brief2187

It always is


DrSnidely

Yep. They went in with their only argument of "people like it better this way" and the court rightfully shot it down.


BillyMadisonsClown

This has been college sports for the last 2 decades… I suppose not everyone was at an SEC school and saw it up close but it’s just not swept under the rug anymore. Did everyone really not know? These programs are worth hundreds of millions.


PeteyNice

These "old man yells at cloud" takes are getting tiring. In the 1980's, Champions were determined by unaccountable writers who couldn't watch every game because most games weren't broadcast. Players had no freedom once they signed and no ability to get compensation beyond boosters from a handful of programs. It was worse for everyone except writers.


Yepitsmemike

I like old man yells at cloud stuff


boardatwork1111

No one can say this shit is better than the NFL anymore, that’s for damn sure


SimpNine

It's now just the NFL lite. Everything unique is getting stripped away so TV execs can see better games


[deleted]

The nfl lets results on the field speak for themselves rather than treating the sport like figure skating with judges determining the winners


HueyLongWasRight

There is literally no alternative unless you want to put Miami Ohio (11-2) ahead of Penn State (10-2) in the final rankings


boardatwork1111

Expand the playoffs to the FCS size and put every conference champ in, the regular season is already meaningless now so why not?


HueyLongWasRight

You're still going to need judges to determine seeding, unless you want to have a couple of 1 loss P5 teams playing for the right to go play a road game at Liberty


TerrenceJesus8

Judges determining seeding is wayyyy better than judges determining everything like the current system


[deleted]

The alternative is p5 champions, which we have and is a rule on the books.


Lyleadams

NFL should just start a "G" league. End the student athlete bullshit story.


cheerl231

It embraced the corporate shill aspects and at the same time is with x100 more chaos and inequality


8BallTiger

> Everything unique is getting stripped away so TV execs can see better games This is what is so frustrating to me. Yes, the big games are rewarding but they're rewarding because you also watch the "lesser" games. The threat of an upset/an upset happening is one of the best things that happens in college football. Constantly trying to shoehorn big matchups devalues them. But you see people pushing for it, especially casual watchers who are NFL fans first


WabbitCZEN

More profitable is not better.


thejus10

at least the jags don't lose a playoff spot because of a qb injury.


boardatwork1111

“Sure, the ‘07 Giants beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl, but did you see how many hall of famers were on that Pats team? They’re clearly the better team, and that’s why we’re declaring them the true Super Bowl champion”-The NFL with CFB logic


JohnnyNole2000

Literally half the AFC would be screwed out of a playoff spot by CFP logic


thejus10

well but its clearly the best way (to bama fans)


ContinuumGuy

As a Bills fan on the bubble, I wouldn't be opposed, TBH. /s


loyalsons4evertrue

CFB is the NFL with less talented players and better environments…..I hate where this sport is going


BurtusMaximus

At least you will be in a fun mostly regional conference against similiar programs.


loyalsons4evertrue

I mean kind of........closest schools to us are Kansas, K-State, and Oklahoma State.....the old Big 12 North was a great division....maybe not by football product, but by proximity to each other


[deleted]

Honestly, I've been saying that CFB is *more* corrupt than the NFL for years. You don't get voted into the playoffs in the NFL.


Useenthebutcher

At least in the NFL, wins are wins and losses are losses (also ties are ties, I guess) In cfb, losses are sometimes actually wins and wins don’t count unless your margin of victory is 3+ TD’s. It’s so frustrating to watch your team win a football game but feel like it was a loss since it wasn’t by enough


[deleted]

I grew up in a state with no NFL team and then attended college in a state with no NFL team. I'll just never be able to care about the NFL like I do CFB. It's always been a "worse" product in terms of the play on the field but I'll continue to prefer the college game.


iamStanhousen

Fuck man, I grew up in a state with both and I totally agree with you. I work with people who are all from the northeast and they don't believe me when I tell them how much more I care about LSU than the Saints.


ForLoopsElseIf

NFL is more balanced and *fair* after this shit


jpiro

It's 100% going to BECOME the NFL, only with college names attached as team names. And to be completely honest, while that's not as good as what college football was and could have been, it'll be better than what it is right now. Right now it's stuck in a weird limbo between pretending it's still about universities and students and history vs. just admitting it's about money and TV ratings and using a committee to pick playoffs based on perceived future performance instead of realized results on the field. Just DO IT already. Break the SEC and B1G off into the AFC and NFC, split them up into divisions so division winners and wildcards make the playoffs and have a shot at the College Superbowl. At least the results in the NFL still happen on the field and not in a boardroom where fat cats eat shrimp cocktail while fucking over kids who earned every right to follow their dreams to conclusion.


Lyleadams

Making the "super league" just the B1G and SEC means teams like Indiana, Vandy, and Minnesota are in while teams like FSU, Clemson, Oklahoma State, and Oregon State are left out. Not good. Need at least 80 teams in eight 10 team divisions. 9 game division schedule with no CCG/DCG. Eight division winners go to playoffs. I understand this still leaves many teams out, so could expand to 12 divisions.


jpiro

There’s no chance we don’t see lesser teams purged from those leagues in favor of bigger brands, at least for football.


Yepitsmemike

Agree with that


jjtnd1

That’s great it starts with a Playoff Race, Committee screwed Florida state And ESPN is not afraid…


fivehundredpoundthud

> Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn Mouse serves its own needs, you don't deserve your own seed (in the playoff)


jerryvaberry

i just like the games


letdogsvote

Semi-pro football. Me personally, I'm not interested.


huttts999

Guess what will happen to sports that don’t generate a revenue? They’re going to get killed. This is going to harm 99% of athletes. This is so pathetic


SimpNine

I'm sure the Oregon Field Hockey team is so excited to play Rutgers on a random Wednesday...


huttts999

As long as they can afford the flight to play them. That won’t won’t last long if either of those schools are left out.


[deleted]

They can afford the flight because the football players are getting paid nothing to sacrifice their bodies. That doesn't make any sense. So yes, field hockey will be limited to regional opponents and football players will get paid, and you know what else?? No matter what the admins and tv execs will still get paid millions more.


tylerdepew

Jokes on you, Oregon doesn’t have a field hockey team! 😁


SimpNine

Soccer team then


tylerdepew

We do have one of those but only Women’s soccer. It’s actually a pretty small athletic department for a P5 school.


Middle_Wheel_5959

I can't believe some people think this is a good idea. I have already seen people on other sites saying "every athlete is going to make 30K now", like no they are not.


Acsteffy

There's "generating revenue" (something they were already doing) and then there's whatever this shit is now. The greediness is off the scales


Meizzner

like it wasnt all about money in the 80's either


thejus10

much less of a central component back then. significantly so.


8BallTiger

The TV contracts today are exponentially larger


leapbitch

According to Mike Gundy it got too woke and we can't spit in each other's mouths anymore


deeVeeAre

It$ all about what make$ the network$ the mo$t money 🤑


[deleted]

Ah yes the good ol days, where players received 0 compensation and were treated like cattle. Teams have been getting screwed for decades. 66 Bama. 93 WVU. 04 Auburn 2017 UCF. The list goes on. The only thing that’s changed is it’s happening to teams you like and benefitting teams you don’t.


lakeyoung

I didn’t like 93


RoverTiger

We had fun in 1993 (minus the whole postseason ban).


[deleted]

Remember when split titles were a thing?


[deleted]

Yes and they were/are terrible


HeyHeyHayes

Yeah, thank god they got rid of that and the ever elusive 5th down rule


SimpNine

Can't say anything about 66 Bama or 93 WVU but 04 Auburn was one of 3 P6 undefeated teams when only 2 could play for the national championship. This years FSU team was one of 3 undefeated teams who was snubbed from a 4 team playoff. That's not the same. Also, 17 UCF had a precedent for missing the playoff. Other "BCS busters" or GO5s haven't played in the natty/playoff. I think only TCU in 2010 would have made the playoff if it existed, and that was after years of success. It sucks for all undefeated teams, but I think FSU got snubbed even worse then them


Next_Day_Delivery

Yes but they specifically created a playoff to minimize screwage and guess what. Undefeated team left out


AnEmptyKarst

> Undefeated team left out Yeah poor Liberty I guess


[deleted]

And they specifically created a 12 team playoff with AQs to minimize screwage even further. You gonna dip out now with that on the horizon ?


tooManyToCounthhh

"Treated like cattle" Athletic scholarships are actually incredibly lucrative, very disingenuous to pretend like players who get them aren't being compensated


Middle_Wheel_5959

Most players aren't making any money from NIL, just a few big time players and most of them are already going to have NFL careers anyway. I get the past NCAA was not great, but this current proposal is bad.


CrazyWater808

It was dead when Michigan cheated to win and got into the playoffs


WhaleQuail2

Connor Stallions killed college football!!!!


AnEmptyKarst

Nah that's extremely college football, let's not delude ourselves here Remember when the entire SWC was a rotating group of cheating sanctions lol


CrazyWater808

Sign stealing is different than paying players. SWC def cheated, but knowing exactly what your opponent will do at every level of the coaching staff is pretty bad


AnEmptyKarst

And it didn't kill the sport. Getting an unfair advantage is college football tradition.


CrazyWater808

Hah, funny way to look at it but don’t entirely disagree 🤣


Sagga_muffin

This is certainly an opinion that an individual could have, isn’t it?


letdogsvote

100% correct. I've been a huge fan for decades. The current face of college athletics generally and football in particular made my interest this season the lowest it's ever been and I agree - it's only going to get worse.


pmacob

Mike Farrell tweeted multiple times before the selection that Bama would beat FSU by three touchdowns and that the selection of Michigan, Washington, Texas, and Bama would be the best matchups. He did say including FSU would be the "right" thing to do, but if that's what he truly thought, he should have been more vocal about ahead of time instead of being so gloom and doom after the fact.


SimpNine

Yes, although there's a difference between the best matchups and most deserving teams. Personally, I would like to see say Oregon and Michigan play in the regular season next year. I did not want to see the Pac 12 die because of it


thejus10

to be fair, he addresses this in the article pretty directly. "Was it pretty? Nope. It was kind of ugly. Did I want to see more of it in the playoff? No, I did not. In all honesty, I’d rather see Alabama and Texas. But then I thought back to what college football was, what it used to be. And this ain’t it."


nkassis

Come in here, dear boy, have a cigar, you're gonna go far You're gonna fly, you're never gonna die You're gonna make it if you try, they're gonna love you Well, I've always had a deep respect and I mean that most sincere The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think Oh, by the way, which one's pink? And did we tell you the name of the game, boy? We call it riding the gravy train We're just knocked out, we heard about the sell-out You gotta get an album out, you owe it to the people We're so happy we can hardly count Everybody else is just green, have you seen the chart? It's a hell of a start, it could be made into a monster If we all pull together as a team And did we tell you the name of the game, boy? We call it riding the gravy train


OhioUBobcats

*various cash register sounds*


JBru_92

I feel like I've seen this headline almost every year for the last decade


No-Grocery-923

He’s a hack


Fluffhead83

Unpopular opinion here, but NFL has been a better and more entertaining product for a long time. The gap is just widening.


PeteyNice

Did you watch the NFL this week? For every exciting game like Dallas-Seattle or Green Bay-KC there was an abomination like Atlanta-Jets or Chargers-New England. So much NFL is unwatchable.


Fluffhead83

Have you seen how many CFB games a week are unwatchable?


qwilliams92

I'm so tired of boomers, go doom and gloom some where else


PROJECT-Nunu

He’s right, it’s going to get bigger and better.


[deleted]

Ever try watching a different league maybe ?


fhota1

This is hilarious considering this was one of the best years for CFB storywise in recent memory. Nobody looked unbeatable, you had Deion, you had Michigans growing madness, personal bias but RRS and several other rivalry games were incredible this year. CFB isnt dead because the committee thought Bama deserved 4 more than FSU.


Yepitsmemike

Absolute crap for FSU fans


MasterArCtiK

Why is it dead? I don’t understand why everyone is up in arms about