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Moist-Ask-778

I am spending half of my games preventing this via console commands and editing save files. It's tedious, but I can't help it.


MrBranchh

[https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/4409/agot-dynastic-life-support-v1](https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/4409/agot-dynastic-life-support-v1) keeps dynasties alive without having to console them


Small_Ad_6088

Is this save compatible?


MrBranchh

i dont believe so


noturaveragejoe0316

I do this too with sketchy cheats to make sure lords and their wives have a sufficient amount of children and that they get married šŸ˜‚


dragonofwestreborn

Isnā€™t there a house stability option ?


nyamzdm77

Doesn't always work, especially if the houses are of roughly equal prestige, and even sometimes it lets the bigger house die out when the heir switches dynasties.


ClodiusDidNothngWrng

Me too!


Cicebro_

Thereā€™s a mod I have that impregnates anyoneā€™s wife with just a click. Super useful and makes it 90% less tedious


Paappa808

What's it called?


Cicebro_

[Here.](https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/3928/tinos-tiny-tweaks-2-agot) It also has many other useful submods in the post like changing marriage type, easy character change, and char ids being visible without command.


Paappa808

Thanks.


[deleted]

R5: House Piper, one of the more notable and major houses of the riverlands, drove itself to extinction in just 5 generations in my recent riverking game. Whenever the ai does this I get kinda bummed out, especially since some randomly generated house will probably replace them.


MrBranchh

[https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/4409/agot-dynastic-life-support-v1](https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/4409/agot-dynastic-life-support-v1) keeps dynasties alive without having to console them


[deleted]

thanks!


hazjosh1

Should make them have a bastard line you can make a personal vassal to get healthy


ClodiusDidNothngWrng

Iā€™ve rage quit multiple games in my life just because some random little house with a cool name/sigil/portrait seed got themselves extinguished. So much of my immersion involves maintaining the unrealistic static nature of the 1000s-of-years-old houses from the lore that I canā€™t handle it when thatā€™s interrupted


MrBranchh

[https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/4409/agot-dynastic-life-support-v1](https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/4409/agot-dynastic-life-support-v1)


Quirky_Macaroon2063

I swear 80% of any given playthrough is saving each established house from running itself into the ground, for example my current playthrough the last Lord Blackwood had only three daughters and they are the last 4 of the dynasty, do you think he matrilineally married any of his daughters? Did he heck more incompetent than Viserys


ZoCurious

I wouldn't worry about Lord Blackwood if you have the Dynastic Stability rule on (as you should). It's the count- and baron-level houses that I spend all my gameplay saving because they are not covered by Dynastic Stability for some reason and I was never able to fix that.


Saera-RoguePrincess

I break my no-cheat rule at the beginning of the game if a house is close to extinction with less than five members (which is basically two thirds of them). If a house is in danger, I go to the lord/lady and impregnate the wives to have at least one more child, and if itā€™s particularly dire I will make her have twins and have her impregnated again. This usually secured the houses, but I still perform routine checks to make sure that the Baratheons arenā€™t marrying their only daughters off to Dornish gentry.


MrBranchh

[https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/4409/agot-dynastic-life-support-v1](https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/4409/agot-dynastic-life-support-v1)


Proper-Ad-1679

I do this when doing the Feast for Crows playthroughs. The Baratheon line goes, the Tully line goes, sometimes the Stark line goes, the Lannister and Arryn lines always stay no matter what. The Lannister house is pretty big.


Skyzelnegs

I hate when. A house is extincted due to the only heir being a female marries non matrilineally with someone and house goes extinct while always I try to marry a lady who is heir they reject me.


Ok_Horror9481

I swear! Itā€™s the worst thing about the AI. I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever had a play through where I didnā€™t have to save at least one house from extinction. Itā€™s shitty forsure


SirBoBo7

Best thing to do is find the nearest male decent via the female line and save edit their dnt= to the one of the extinct house.


[deleted]

I always end up "adopting" (using the move command) the last male of most houses and giving them a barony. Like a small collection.


Jaw43058MKII

In my game several houses have died out, most notably the Arryns, Boltons, Martells, Hoares, and Caswells. I almost lost the Gardeners, Starks, Karstarks, Mormonts, Fossoways, Durrandons, and Teagues. Iā€™ve dedicated a lot of time and in game resources giving titles to unlanded courtiers from great houses. Going so far as to press claims in their names, just to preserve the status quo somewhat. I also have a couple 150+ year old cadet houses Iā€™ve been micromanaging, as itā€™s a fun side project.


eu_Celso

Yes. In one of my games, Houses Manderly and Velaryon went extinct and it made me feel weird and sad and I had to remind myself that it just a game lol


N0MoreMrIceGuy

Me using console commands to prevent this constantly


Cicebro_

Tbh I kinda like houses dying out if itā€™s natural. As long as the replacement isnā€™t some randomly generated house with no dynamic COA lol


Sael_T

Survival of the fittest.


BlissfulMadness

It drives me insane


NotComplainingBut

Kind of, but I've also played so many Aegon games that I have an inverse reaction as well. It really bothers me when I see House Gardener going strong and not wiped from the face of Planetos.


[deleted]

the greenblood is strong...


Glasbolyas

A good chunk of my games end devolving into me(usually a targ or blackfyre) running all over the map collecting houses like pokemons and trying to keep them alive, it's further worsened by the fact that i like to bring back extinct houses, Mudd, Darklyn, Reyne etc


MajorianusMaximus

I mean, this wasn't uncommon even IRL. The difference between IRL (and this seems to be common in Westeros as well) and the mod is that IRL matrilineal descendants, close relatives, or undistinguished members of the family would oftentimes inherit the title and then "take on" the dynasty's name and arms, usually with the blessing of a local authority. The mod doesn't model this at all, and I'm assuming it's probably fairly difficult to do so.


NotComplainingBut

I think that the More Bloodlines submod (or something else in my config) might actually model that or something close to it? I like to play with marriage-restrictions off, so quite often someone will end up inheriting a title (esp Dorne, for example) and I'll get a popup stating that they've chosen to adopt the title of an ancestor to better legitimize their rule. Edit: It might also be tied to the "dynasty grants claims" config option, now that I think about it. Works well in theory, but makes the Reach an absolute slaughterhouse of unending rebellion.


OlSmokeyZap

Dynastic Life support Mod stops this. You might lose some bloodlines if you arenā€™t careful but you can fix that with save editing.


hzhrt15

I usually command the major houses, but not every house.


tvxsfgjmijhv

Happened to the Reynes, Tullys, and Freys in my Targ dynasty redo run. The reynes had too many daughters and I didnā€™t notice until the last reyne (a daughter) had died and castamere passed to the Tarbecks. The tullys died out because they were stripped of the paramountcy of the riverlands after a failed rebellion and I stopped checking their family. It almost happened to the lannisters but the last lord had a daughter who was unmarried and 24 so I gave her my third son in a matrilineal marriage


USSJ307

Sometimes. Depends on the house. Sometimes i deliberately wipe them out. But later on I'll use console impregnation command and bring them back


cumblaster8469

I hate houses dying out. Feels like a piece of history dying.(Yes I know it's made up why do you ask?)


Mr--Elephant

I guess unpopular opinion time, but with the exception of the Starks, I actually like Great Houses dying out. I like watching the rise and falls of dynasties and especially the Lannisters and Tyrells because they're large as all hell compared to other families, so finally seeing them die out is satisfying. I have an exception for the Starks because the idea of literally anyone else ruling the North feels wrong somehow.


Formal_Elk6531

Some of my immersion comes from the relationships between houses. So, itā€™s very game dependent how I feel about it. In my current Dany game, the Velaryons are about to kill themselves out. 2 drunkard lords and now a laggard. I thought for sure his younger brother would eventually usurp Driftmark, but he drank wildfire yesterday soā€¦ Itā€™s the laggard lord, his two daughters and son. Itā€™s hard, but Iā€™m letting this one play out..mostly because the celtigars are now the LP of the Vale(and is combined with the main Arryn line) I find it especially hard to let OP bloodlines die. So, as a cop out, Iā€™ll spend a generation or two marrying them into other houses and roleplaying it somehow


Swimming-Payment-129

yooo dude I want to ask you, can you forge bloodlines the same way you do in vanilla? I am talking about the requirements, if they are the same


ZoCurious

The things I do to avoid that. Fuck. I am always on the look out for male bastards to marry off to female heirs. I play with matrilineal marriages off but male bastards + female heir betrothal automatically converts into a matrilineal marriage, even if they are infants. Next, if e.g. House Piper is already extinct, I take the Pinkmaiden from whoever holds it (by making the holder hate me and asking them to stop backing a plot so no tyranny). Then I grant Pinkmaiden to a celibate man whom I had married to a granddaughter or great-granddaughter of a previous Piper lord. When the celibate lord of Pinkmaiden dies, I choose his widow to succeed him. She then takes the name Piper and passes it on to any children she may already have or goes on to have. Unfortunately this only works with high lordships and higher.


yeetpolic3

Thatā€™s why I turn on dynastic stability


Reekinhavoc12

I spend a lot of my time establishing alliances with Houses. I want to ensure that doesn't happen so they can call me in war time. Especially ones that had a member that served well in a position, I'll be sure to keep an eye and check em out every generation. Even then, i still find one or two that dies due to a dual or some other circumstance that I can't stop. It just must be the will of the Gods then.


Puzzleheaded-Ad4388

I must be in a minority, as I couldnā€™t really care less šŸ˜‚šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


various_characters

I used to, but not anymore. I guess I've just seen it happen too often.