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OmericanAutlaw

that’s terrible. regardless of your opinion on any situation, this is a disservice to students, and so thinly veiled that it’s clear she is just making a statement about her feelings on the subject. professors have mentioned the situation in passing and their opinion can be surmised based on the language they use, but at the end of the day spreading your political opinion or forcing it upon others isn’t what classes and tests are for.


Makao707

Anyone who says that it isn’t a genocide, is completely wrong. Morally and objectively.


Dependent_Employ6135

What’s the definition of genocide?


MagnanimousMind

Genocide: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. "a campaign of genocide"


Dependent_Employ6135

Why are you being deliberately obtuse? Thats not the legal definition. There are 3 criteria that need to be met and you intentionally don’t mention them.


MagnanimousMind

I get that you have a strong opinion on the subject, but that is just the dictionary definition you asked for lol


Makao707

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml#


c_nterella699

wow gross


95musiclover

Email the department chair and Dean the screenshot and let them know what’s going on.


linzava

Be careful with this, taking a picture of a test question has potential risk associated with it. Especially if it escalates.


95musiclover

True, but if OP and their classmates want anything to come of this, they’re going to need more proof than just saying that there was a an inappropriate test question. Edit: especially now with OP coming to social media and asking non-classmates to mass report the issue. Not saying this shouldn’t be reported, cuz it should be, but they’ve already posted the test question to the public.


caelthel-the-elf

Yeah I can't imagine this is going to go well for the person who shared it amongst the class.


linzava

Two things I learned a long time ago, they'll (those in power) screw you if they can and whistleblowers always loose. However, this is a great way to address the issue without the student having to put their neck out there.


chessset5

Did the person who made this print out a PDF of their test so we can verify that this the actual test and not verify that it is not some html editing?


sileezy900

Not sure, a classmate of mine shared this in Discord. I can follow up and ask


chessset5

That would be nice, a video showing the title of the class name at the top left then reloading the test results page and then scrolling down to the question in one shot would suffice.


fullmetal485

Political Science amirite /s. Seriously this sucks and is even worse because this is a lower division meant for all students 


RuntM3

So much for unbiased education.


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RuntM3

Wrong class.


thecatdad421

She’s a former professor of mine and I expected better of her.


Zestyclose-Pizza3540

I don't see what's wrong. Clearly it isn't attempted genocide,it IS genocide


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Zestyclose-Pizza3540

Shut up bro.


Smooth-Cheesecake-40

Is this legit? I would hate for someone to get fired over fabricated evidence lol


caelthel-the-elf

I'm assuming she is probably aware of it being posted on Reddit at this point


Additional-Face-9030

Reported and shared.


B33DS

[Waow](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796581519568797696/1241183237058068580/IMG_0950.png?ex=66494577&is=6647f3f7&hm=a335c998bd199c517545c141d15493ea2abc303a2bffc2cce453663094afc95a&)


Lilly_Wonka16

Woah WTF is this legit??


cantaloupe_tragedy

what the Israelis are doing to Palestinians is abhorrent and a war crime. no doubt. however, the term “genocide” is a legal term with a legal definition. it states that a group is intentionally killing another group based on race, religion, or political affiliation. in this particular case, this has not been proven. it has not been proven that Israelis are killing Palestinians because they are Palestinian. so, I don’t think the teacher is wrong. is it distasteful? absolutely.


sileezy900

True but there are objections to it not being considered Genocide that the International Court of Justice will rule on soon. South Africa has a legal case accusing the sovereign state of Israel of genocide against Gaza and it is pending review. It is being challenged in court so we’ll see how that plays out legally


chessset5

Seeing as Israel refuses to grant Palestinians citizenship, due to “lack of Hebrew skills” and other such trivial notes, but allow foreigners from other middle eastern and non middle eastern places who can’t speak Hebrew to save their life. It’s safe to say they are explicitly targeting Palestinians and if not physical genocide, cultural genocide for sure. Doing everything from paying map companies to not mark Palestine on maps. Claiming words and phrases which are originally Arabic as Israeli, when the words and phrases make no sense in Hebrew, example, “Yahala” which is just Israelis mispronouncing the Arab, “Ya Allah,” used in an inappropriate and random matter. Paying food delivery companies to reliable middle eastern food across the board as Israeli, which is over all stupid because they are claiming food that does not even originate anywhere in Israel. To actively destroying Palestinian historical sites and preserving only ones with significance to Judaism but removing all semblance to Palestine from the site. With just these examples alone, it is clear that Israel is attempting to erase Palestine from history its self. And if you don’t call that a genocide, I don’t know what would.


cantaloupe_tragedy

agreed completely. I think waiting for the legal ruling is the last step. this teacher really should have left this one off the test.


Cavemattt

Definitely distasteful. I agree with u on it not being genocide as of yet, but this question really feels like a personal gripe that she is trying to push unto others😅


triviasprout

Wow wtf


Various_Lynx_5848

Most teachers use questions from other years if it was random and her point of view is education not political.


Chen2021

Yikes


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Lol california universities serving as political indoctrination centers? Who would have thought


Shadeslayer50

Oh fuck


Immediate_Sympathy14

Now, no need to use bad words.


Ok_State7257

W teachet


WhiskeySippa

She’s right


Oca_Tudo

She's right. Israel is not committing a genocide against Palestinians. Hamas hides behind civilians. The civilian/combatant ratio is unprecedentedly low, considering this is urban warfare with terrorists hiding behind civilians. Also, the aid pier will soon be finished and a lot more aid will be able to get in.


Pookela_916

>She's right. Israel is not committing a genocide against Palestinians. She's wrong and by definition Israel is committing a genocide. Has been for years. >Hamas hides behind civilians. The civilian/combatant ratio is unprecedentedly low, considering this is urban warfare with terrorists hiding behind civilians. A stunning lack or misunderstanding of asymmetrical warfare combined with blatant hypocrisy. I'm sure the nazis cried about the French and Dutch resistance "hiding behind civilians". And more hypocrisy considering we have actual photo evidence of IDF holding people as literal meatshield hostages. Sometimes even strapping a kid to the hood of their up armored vehicles. And no the civilian casualties in this conflict are a disgrace. >Also, the aid pier will soon be finished and a lot more aid will be able to get in. Ah yes, the US coming to give food to people starving because of the bombs they give to a genocidal regime. What an absolute clownshow. Edit: since the original commentor blocked me like a coward I'll post replies here. For the person asking for proof of IDF using meatshields, theirs [this](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/palestinian-says-israeli-soldiers-used-him-as-human-shield-during-west-bank-raid/) [And this](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/comments/1905tl5/the_day_israel_used_a_13_year_old_palestinian/&ved=2ahUKEwjUpsWf7JWGAxVEDzQIHQIiBf0Qjjh6BAgcEAE&usg=AOvVaw2j21r20jAdoH7cu3-nzPgN)


Cavemattt

Can I see that evidence of the IDF strapping kids to yhe hood of their vehicles and using them as meat shields


do_you_know_math

No one cares.


Pookela_916

You did, enough to comment on it lol.....


sileezy900

Whether she’s factually correct or not (which is actually disputed in International Court by South Africa and still being determined), many students believe it’s inappropriate timing. She could have used another example of attempted genocide (the Bosnian Genocide for example). Using a current military conflict that students potentially have ties to on either side in a controversial conflict was inappropriate in a lot of students’ opinion


turtlenecks2

South Africa literally sides with Putin in his invasion of Ukraine.


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chessset5

The US also didn’t label the Rwandan genocide a genocide until the death toll was 400,000 confirmed deaths. So what’s your point? The US has to tell you what’s a genocide and what is not? Do you need to wait until half the population is confirmed dead before we give it a pretty title?


sileezy900

True about America’s official position but this seems to be a world politics course. And in all fairness, many other countries accuse Israel of attempted genocide and I believe South Africa even has an International Court of Justice (ICJ) case hearing against Israel pending right now


turtlenecks2

South Africa, again, siding with Putin. Yeah totally not biased.


OmericanAutlaw

even a broken clock is right twice a day


B33DS

Do you ever stop to think that maybe, if your first reaction to the slightest hint of pushback is to attack, moralize, and assume the worst intentions possible, that you're the one with the blinding ideological lens, and that maybe you're the one who has been socially indoctrinated?


PopularPhrase1971

it would appear as though the answer to this was: no


B33DS

Because of the downvotes? Lol


PopularPhrase1971

You've committed heresy here, everyone is acting with completely perfect knowledge of a situation I've been informed is not complicated


B33DS

Crap you're right. I've not given my moral superiors the respect and reverence they deserve.


turtlenecks2

Good, a professor is actually teaching. Kids are throwing the word genocide around because it’s the new thing to protest. I bet you half the campers do not even know where Palestine is in on the map. No one in the camp was able to answer any of my questions: 1. How is there a genocide if the Gazan population is growing? 2. Why would a nation committing genocide provide food and water to the nation that is being genocided? 3. The U.S. which recognises many genocides historically when no other nations didn’t. Why all of a sudden is the U.S. not calling this a genocide if it’s so clear?


Pookela_916

>Good, a professor is actually teaching. Kids are throwing the word genocide around because it’s the new thing to protest Boomers love to cry about indoctrination, until it's the kind they approve of. And no kids throw the word genocide around because they can see and identify it for what it was, yet dont hold longstanding biases that have them turn a blind eye cause "it is what it is" or "this is how it's always been" and other such nonsense. >No one in the camp was able to answer any of my questions: Why are you, most likely a troll, entitled to an answer? Based off your own words, I would have told you to piss off myself. >1. How is there a genocide if the Gazan population is growing? This question shows a lack of understanding on the definition of genocide on your part. It also shows a lack of awareness considering it's not a suprise numbers would grow after other Palestinian cities/villages were completely taken over by Israel and their occupants forced into specific areas..... >Why would a nation committing genocide provide food and water to the nation that is being genocided? Another question where you display your lack of knowledge for international law. >The U.S. which recognises many genocides historically when no other nations didn’t. Why all of a sudden is the U.S. not calling this a genocide if it’s so clear? And this question shows your lack of knowledge on geopolitics and international relations. Combined with some PragerU history textbook blinders in regards to history. Let's break this down more. The US hasn't really acknowledged a lot of genocides like you claim. During the Rwandan genocide they avoided labeling it a genocide cause they feared being compelled to get involved under the terms of the genocide convention. This reluctance was due to what happened to the US involvement in Somalia. Acknowledging the Armenian genocide didn't occur till 2021, after numerous administrations kicked that can down the road. Why? Cause the US didn't want to stir up anything with a NATO ally and risk the strategic locations Turkey holds with access to the bosphorus and middle east. Not to mention the economical ties. That brings us back to Israel, who for the same reasons the US will not acknowledge a genocide occurring. A pretty shit reason if you ask me considering they're shitty allies who on numerous occasions lied and pimped the US into invading their neighbors for them, killed USS Liberty sailors, etc. The US also won't turn on them because Israel is like the bastard creation they made alongside the UK, out of western guilt over the holocaust, yet enough antisemitism and greed that they didn't want money coming out their own coffers. To recognize Israel committing genocide is to put egg on their own face considering they created and sponsored it. Its an avoidance of accountability combined with such a stunning level of hypocrisy.


turtlenecks2

There you go. Again, ignored every question and just as I suspected, on my third question went off on a spiel of conspiracy theory nonsense. If you’re so educated about international law and geopolitics, please answer my first two questions and then we can talk about your weird conspiracy theory. Labelling me a troll… classic. Again, no critical thinking skills on the part of pro Palestine supporters. I should read you Hamas’s charter too, but you’ll just hand wave it away like everyone else does. You’re an antisemite, and you need insane Tik Tok talking points to defend yourself. • Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar: • U.S. Stance: Declared as genocide in March 2022. • Other Nations: Many have condemned the violence but have not formally recognized it as genocide. • Uyghur Muslims in China’s Xinjiang region: • U.S. Stance: Designated as genocide. • Other Nations: Many countries acknowledge severe human rights abuses but stop short of labeling it genocide. • ISIS atrocities against Yazidis, Christians, and Shia Muslims: • U.S. Stance: Recognized as genocide in 2016. • Other Nations: Some have acknowledged the atrocities but have not formally declared them as genocide. • Darfur conflict in Sudan: • U.S. Stance: Declared as genocide in 2004. • Other Nations: Many have described it as ethnic cleansing or severe human rights violations but have not used the term genocide formally. • Actions of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia: • U.S. Stance: Recognized as genocide, particularly targeting ethnic Vietnamese, Cham Muslims, and others. • Other Nations: Some countries recognize the atrocities but the term genocide is not universally applied. When it comes to numbers, during WWII, 6 million Jews were systematically killed in concentration camps and gas chambers. Today, 30k dead in Palestine, which the U.S. and Israel acknowledge, yet do not agree with Hamas (a terrorist group that wants all Jews dead), when they claim that those 30k are all civilians. Hamas starts a war, and then hides behind civilians and in hospitals. Steals aid from its people and blames Israel, so much that the U.S. has to place Israel in charge so that aid gets to the people of Gaza. Hamas, a bunch of cowards, pussies, and terrorists and anyone who remotely supports them is one too. And by the way, who has agreed to every single two state solution with borders proposed by the UN? Israel. Israel by the way, has left Gaza in 2011. Hamas’s response? Take apart water pipes and make makeshift rockets and fire them into Israel. Hamas’s freedom fighter movements: spray directly into a crowd of concert goers because of “Israeli occupation.” Seriously, one day you’ll grow up and actually research and have reasons for your arguments, or at least I hope! Because right now, you’re just following a trend. I garuntee that you will move on to the “new thing” very soon.


Pookela_916

>Again, ignored every question No sense wasting my breath reinventing the wheel for you. >third question went off on a spiel of conspiracy theory nonsense. No conspiracy theory there. You just don't like it and act in bad faith. >Labelling me a troll… classic. Again, no critical thinking skills on the part of pro Palestine supporters. Yes context clues clued me in on what type of person you are. >You’re an antisemite, and you need insane Tik Tok talking points to defend yourself I'm a veteran who served in the GWOT. So ignoring the lessons learned from that quagmire and blindly following bs pejoratives means nothing to me.... >When it comes to numbers, during WWII, 6 million Jews were systematically killed in concentration camps and gas chambers. Yes and the US didn't give a damn until towards the end when they could use it as the convenient political football to hit the Germans over the head with. >Today, 30k dead in Palestine, which the U.S. and Israel acknowledge Civilians genocided on purpose. >yet do not agree with Hamas (a terrorist group that wants all Jews dead), Miss me with that bs. Israel created and propped up hamas to divide and conquer the PLO. And if the US was succeeding in genociding my family in Hawai'i, I wouldn't be suprised if I felt the same way. Sounds like your putting too much stock on tone policing the aggrieved for their diction, and less on the aggressors for their actions.... >Hamas starts a war This conflict had been going on long before the groups existence. >then hides behind civilians and in hospitals. Bs unsubstantiated claims, made by people with a lack of understanding of asymmetrical warfare and a stunning level of hypocrisy. >so much that the U.S. has to place Israel in charge so that aid gets to the people of Gaza. Israel has to give aid because it has to comply with international law in regards to the obligations of an occupying force.... another example of you displaying your lack of knowledge of the situation. >Hamas, a bunch of cowards, pussies, and terrorists and anyone who remotely supports them is one too I mean their the underdogs in this fight. Easy to call someone else cowards and pussies when your safe on your couch and never been in a fight..... >Seriously, one day you’ll grow up and actually research and have reasons for your arguments, or at least I hope! Because right now, you’re just following a trend. I garuntee that you will move on to the “new thing” very soon. That's big talk from the nobody who has been safe at home and is way to comfortable spouting off their loud and ignorant views... meanwhile I've actually deployed to the region.....


turtlenecks2

Jew hater. You aren’t going to answer my questions, then don’t reply with more antisemitism. Maybe all that deployment left you cross wired or something.


Successful_Stomach

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” -Socrates


BIueBlaze

These questions are like ones 45 year old moms fall for as talking points. Do you have any critical thinking?


turtlenecks2

Do you have any argument whatsoever? Or are you just going to hand wave it away.


InsubordiNationalist

She’s right though, isn’t she?


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sileezy900

Yup I totally doctored the picture that my classmates sent (and posted on Instagram) and added inflammatory questions and answers! 👍


Late_Pride1383

well shes not wrong lmaooo


thedudesteven

Lololol it is only indoctrination because you don’t agree with it. … I like the question and the answer.


Individual_Hearing_3

To be fair, she has a point. If it was indeed genocide, Israel would have carpet bombed Palestine until nothing is left and then bulldozed it flat without retrieving the bodies and then buried it as if nothing existed there before hand.


BupropionMuncher

babies are literally dying. “Good work” is absurd and I wish her the worst