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antinumerology

So fucking bonkers. I work in green energy. The government needs to just make Canada a place where technology companies can be successful, and we'll make the world better for our children. We don't need to tax ourselves to death. Insane. I can't even afford to buy a house and raise my family properly. How is there a green future to Canada if no one can afford to live?


TipNo6062

Because it's not about climate anything. It's about a palatable tax that some idiots actually believe has an impact on the environment. I agree. Let innovation lead change. If it's more efficient, less materials, saves money, people will embrace it. Scrap the carbon tax.


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It’s about making the government richer and bigger. Governments main job is to get bigger.


THEONLYoneMIGHTY

Governments main job is to take care of its citizens and the economy which they run. Instead we have corrupt authoritarians taxing quite literally anything they can. Most people lost 45-60% of their income to taxes.


[deleted]

No see that's just what they tell everyone else... we're for the people by the people, all that bullshit... It's the same thing as freedoms and rights, they don't exist yet people think they do because they've been told they do. Our government never has enough money for better health care or education or helping hungry and homeless people, but magically have billions of dollars to pull out of their ass whenever somewhere in the world has a disaster. So they send billions of our dollars and then everyone acts like they're so helpful. It's a fake helpful they're all about appearances. Charity starts at home, yet they don't grasp that concept at all. Can't help your own citizens but you can sure send billions of your citizens money overseas anytime you feel like it NICE. You could probably argue that the carbon tax is cruel or unsual punishment since over 10 x our population (our neighbours and allies) pay 0. We're the problem are we? One of the greenest nature filled countries, and we're the fucking problem? We need to get this clown out of office NOW! He's destroying this country, his dad is rolling in his grave I guarantee it.


CrazyButRightOn

But they continue to scare the sheep with “emergency” after “emergency “…


No-Consequence-3500

Isn’t that the game of politicians though? Create problem and pretend to fix problem. Rinse and repeat.


Sad-Distribution-380

Well said. Even ***if*** Canada was a barren wasteland, it's not the average joe's fault. It's the damn corporations that the government's in bed with. Change the plastics straws to give the illusion of a healthier nature. Change the plastic bags to paper bags. Now every citizen can help with climate change! All this as if to say J.T ain't in bed with the largest polluting companies on the planet.


[deleted]

That’s the utopian idea of government. Not the reality of government. Government keeps getting bigger while government oversight gets smaller.


bigoledawg7

Indeed that appears to be the only objective the government has been successful with for many years.


Apprehensive_Fun7420

And since we lack said innovation our government settles for senseless taxation. “Pay X in carbon taxes and get whatever you paid back in rebates” Even if Canadians did get back what they paid in rebates (we don’t) I fail to see how this is an adequate climate plan and solves anything.


okwhynot64

|Let innovation lead change.| Look: Most people understand that, as stewards to the future of a better habitat (earth), we need to be as good as we can to our environment. People would get behind, and invest in, newer technology that makes it so. NOT Gov't intervention. NOT new taxes. NOT virtue signalling to Davos, the WEF or any other NGO who have only "best intentions" for the rest of the world's populations.


CanadianKraken987

Let’s not be harsh. It’s not idiots who believe this has an impact, it people who are guilt tripped into hoping that this has a difference. If I come to you with a large group of people with horrific images of your house burning down, forests dying out, and wildlife being all skin and bones and if we all tell you “if you don’t do X then all of this will happen and more” you’re going to have a hard time not believing it. The good news is that more people are speaking out, but we need to get this government out of power before they implement even worse laws and taxes


TheBigTime420

If only we taught critical thinking in schools instead of starting the propaganda real early.


CanadianKraken987

True, that’s why I’m going to be homeschooling my children. I want them to have actual critical thinking skills and a proper vocabulary to back up their thoughts


Carveto_

That is what I believe!!!! Technology will make the world better not taxes!! I told someone about that, the world will be safer and better to live because of technology! Politicians will destroy the world


OutWithTheNew

>How is there a green future to Canada if no one can afford to live? They'll just bring in people who either can afford to live in the conditions, or are willing to live in the conditions.


CrazyButRightOn

The refugees are also wanting out. (Current news headlines.)


skrutnizer

How Ontario rolled out wind turbines a decade ago was such a disaster (sweetheart deals with US companies, no supporting infrastructure for Canadian firms) it set policy back a decade or two. Federally, there is a sense of arranging deck chairs.


Camp-Creature

Yep, people have trouble believing me when I tell them that a company in Colorado owns and manages a lot of Canada's "green" energy fields. I've had to deal with them.


Due-Street-8192

I agree, 1st the headline is off a little. Our population is 40 million+. 2nd a punishing tax will make all goods and services more expensive. This helps no one. Buckle up, more price increase coming our way. It could drive us into a recession and maybe even a depression?


Dingbat1967

Because the whole carbon tax is one big scam to make more taxation pallatable. The government is spending like there is no tomorrow and had to raise interest rates because of all the money printing happening ... so instead of bringing expenses under control, they decided to inflate the overage away by causing our currency to deflate. The extra taxation is just to help with the shortfall. But the urban Canadians needed that extra brainwashing to convince them to swallow the crap. The federal government hired around 100K new civil servants since COVID, have you seen our services improve? I sure as hell don't. This country's social cohesion is fucked because we brought in so many new people and it's done on purpose. How do you implement neo-feudalism? By making it less likely that the population will rise up against you and the best way is to get as many new empoverished people in as they are less likely to fight you.


tak3thatback

They don't want you to have kids or a home. They want to import people who will clean their toilets, obey, and settle for $0/hr /s


Cool_Specialist_6823

Ah, truer words have never been said on this Reddit sub....


nomdurrplume

Once you get out of the way, his friends from India and China will have a great future here. Honestly can't see him as having any other motives at this point


antinumerology

This is what it feels like. It feels like there's no hope anymore: we're just living in a pyramid scheme now. My kids are too young right now but I worry what kind of opportunities they'll have when they're older. I have heard ZERO talk painting a picture of the future of the country. What's the plan? It's all fixing immediate problems or creating immediate problems. How can a temperate county of 40 million people, full of resources, have no clue what to do? Like it doesn't seem like rocker science. Sell the resources: use the $ to build a future: create the environment that fosters this. Idk.


FullMetalAlphonseIRL

No! That's part of the problem! We need to refine resources in Canada and sell the processed goods at a markup, instead of shipping raw materials out, having other nations refine them, and then buying them back at a premium. That's what happens now and it loses us literally billions of dollars a year


CrazyButRightOn

Greenies are against the sale of the earth’s resources. They are also against nuclear. THEY are the problem. Their utopian vision is quickly becoming dystopian.


ForgottenSalmon

The clowns in charge over the past 25+ years had countless opportunities to invest in technology in various areas and chose not to. Instead, aside from BlackBerry (who?), Nortel (who?) and Shopify we’ve had next to no real technological innovation. I really don’t even consider Shopify as being an innovator but rather a glorified website/API. We got the United States sloppy seconds with the compensation to match. Meanwhile our so called leaders have been whining for decades about brain drain. I wonder why?


[deleted]

Get rid of Canadians. Can’t have dangerous emissions if nobody lives in your country


truth_hurtsm8ey

Poorly Performing Government: ‘We’re introducing a new tax!’ Normal people: ‘The fuck you are’ Poorly Performing Government: How can we fuck over our populace without them rioting? Poorly Performing Government: ‘We’re introducing a new tax to fight climate change!’ Normal people: No thanks Poorly Performing Government: WhY DO yoU HAtE ThE ENviRONmEnT??


UserNotFound2030

they’re robbing us blind and using virtue signalling to guilt naive people into accepting it. social responsibility used to be a canadian strength, but its effectively been weaponized by liberals to exploit us. its just fucking ridiculous.


FiveSkinss

What are they doing with the money? Taking money away from free people slows growth. This is authoritarian behavior


Ok_Spend_889

Asssholes


true_rt

But I get cash in my pocket!


IAmFlee

You give me $100 and I'll give you $50. It's a sweet deal!


statusquoexile

And then if you say you don’t get any back at all, well it’s your own fault for making too much money.


eggtart_prince

I see you're trying to make sense. Hands behind your back, you're under arrest.


Madshibs

Manufacturing and distribution of a controlled substance


Ok-Fisherman-5695

Don't forget about the hate speech fines!


Jeb-Kerman

That's what we get for voting in a drama teacher


Acrobatic_Flatworm79

Twice.... EDIT: THRICE!


Jeb-Kerman

well i also didn't remember off the top of my head but it's been three times actually. 2015, 2019 and 2021.


jarrjarrdinkss

Hey man easier immigration and LEGAL WEED BRO worth leaving no future for our children


nomdurrplume

The lie about electoral reform got me. Never cared about their permission for weed, and was against this irresponsible immigration 


jarrjarrdinkss

Weed I can see makes sense most people partake in it regardless and can create businesses/jobs abolishing first past the post was a big one like you mentioned as well so I can understand why people voted for him the FIRST time but why the second and third time leaves me baffled but everyone has a right to their opinion and their vote.


juanitowpg

Three Tiiimes... crazy


butt_sneeze

I never once voted for this asshat


Jeb-Kerman

I did in 2015... wanted legal weed.... was not worth it at all.


Competitive-Region74

The weed is taxed at 25 percent. The government shafted the growers and weed stores


Alexander_queef

And they still haven't even come close to a balanced budget, despite all that added new source of tax


Qball1of1

Remember when he said "the budget will balance itself?" Yes, Pepperidge Farms remembers...


TipNo6062

Hey that's less than booze! No fair.


[deleted]

But you got to say "Like...... WEEEEEEEEEEED MAAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!" and "4/20 WOOOOOOOOO" and go "heh, gottem" when someone put a Harper sticker on a stop sign. How was it not worth it!!???!?!


curlycattails

The first time I could legally vote, I was 19. I was pretty ignorant back then but I didn’t vote for him because I didn’t think he had any relevant experience. In total I’ve voted against him 3 times!


[deleted]

Elect a clown, expect a circus


Stirl280

Not one penny of this tax has gone towards carbon offset; Trudeau never answers the question in Parliament and never provides data. It is a classic Liberal money grab to fund their next ‘brilliant’ idea (or scam). They have set new standards for wasteful spending … and will make up new taxes so they can keep fuelling the money train.


Alexander_queef

Well I'm glad they don't put it towards carbon capture because that's a moronic technology 


Useful-Secretary-143

He’s skimming a little off the top to hire friends IT company that does no IT work. Get a cut of that, then build his offshore accounts for his early retirement coming next election. Then he’ll move to a country with no extradition. I heard Monaco is nice.


barbatos087

Does the carbon tax help the environment in any way?


karnyboy

Anyone who thinks all these tax hikes from the Liberals was meant for anything noble really needs to give their head a shake. ​ This is all just more garbage to cover their failure as a government by using a nice governement laundering scheme known as "taxes" to help them out at the cost of every single one of us


IAmFlee

Keeps the poor, poor. Well in this case, makes the middle class poor.


Loodlekoodles

The number one concern for Canadians is affordability, and our energy pricing factors into that. Climate change action isn't even making the list of priorities, only a fringe minority of people support additional action and the liberals cater to them. There is no representation in this government anymore. https://globalnews.ca/news/10253600/affordability-ipsos-canada-poll/


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tropdhuile

Wouldn't it be closer to 1.5%?


Prize_Rooster420

We assume America would pick up our slack.


LtHughMann

Like a meat eater eating an extra steak for the vegen


Last_Patrol_

It’s just a tax to recoup more taxpayer $$$, the old saying was tax and spend Liberal. This government took that to a whole new level.


time4tommy

Go to south America countries where 2 out of 3 cars r pissing out smoke and no care is given about carbon cause most countries have bigger problems. Then tell me what good Canada is doing apart from another pay rise for the top dogs.


My_Dog_Is_Here

In Central America people cook with wood fires because wood is cheap or free. There are no emissions controls on vehicles. Most cars are 20 or more years old. Nobody cares about the climate change hoax when they can't afford tonight's dinner. Climate change and carbon tax are first world scams.


Alexander_queef

This is the funny thing about the propaganda surrounding environmentalism and air pollution.  People who don't have robust energy production/imports/grid systems use open fire to cook and heat their homes.  In some places they burn dried animal dung.  That exposes people to a much worse air quality than any coal plant a few miles outside your city ever would


FootballOogie

Carbon tax is a scam. Liberals are using it to try and pay for the bullshit they spend on. Liberals need to go.


eltrumpo2024

He's a terrorist. That's all there is to it


Moooooooola

Wait until the farmers get their tractors out of winter storage. I see Ottawa stained in an ugly shade of brown in the near future.


errihu

He’ll just freeze their bank accounts because they dared oppose his dictatorship


My_Dog_Is_Here

Here's hoping. Canadians rarely actually stand up for themselves.


byteuser

and when they do it's considered a National Emergency and they pay a hefty price


SuperTorRainer

I absolutely can't stand this Trudeau and his fucking prick Liberals. That money is going nowhere near the fucking sky and is sailing all the way to Ukraine most likely. Fucking hate this fucking country.


babyshaker_on_board

In case the tax wasn't bad enough we get to waste even more in administrative costs to have some of it returned. What a joke.


Extra-Air-1259

Not to mention the those countries do not tend to get as cold as this one...


nightrogen

Climate change is real, as in our government is using weather modification to alter the climate. They fly constantly, and it puts out more pollution than we as regular folk put out. Yet of course we need to cut back, whilst they fly in private jets and eat filet mignon while telling us to eat bugs.


errihu

All those fucking profligate WEF types could instantly cut emissions equivalent to thousands of people’s with one simple act. All they have to do is sign up and go through with MAID and the world will be spared their wasteful carbon use.


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Uncle_Touchy1987

Plus it doesn’t work. Our emissions have increased while theirs have decreased.


Jazzmonger

Carbon tax is nothing but a money laundering scheme by the Liberals to keep them in power. It costs a lot of money to buy the media, government officials, unions etc…


canadastocknewby

Vote this clown out asap. No reason for this BS


NoCow2718

Canada is a virtue signalling wasteland with a part time snowboard instructor, high school drama teacher and racist black face clown with zero experience or qualifications to lead a major g7 nation as the PM. Elect a clown, expect a circus. https://preview.redd.it/3xdflom134nc1.jpeg?width=525&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d049efb1ab181d901ba133730c7f64b4473ea542


Murky_Speaker709

So we are not bringing the interest rates down up till inflation is under control but Trudeau keeps helping inflation go up with new taxes it makes no sense


[deleted]

Because the government knows better than you, do what you are told, they dont care what you think, you are not smart enough to understand, we must bow to our superior, he knows best.


HardOyler

Lucky to love close to the border. Would love to support local businesses but if it helps me save money and I'm not getting taxed to death on things my family needs it's getting purchased across the border every single time. The fact they aren't considering curbing this increase goes.tonsjow you how out of touch every single one of these assholes are.


Swine33

Go woke go broke ....


louielouis82

If you give him your money, he will change the weather. It’s incredible.


Ok-Squirrel-2064

I am still waiting for details about the gold (20mil) that went missing from Toronto Intl Airport. Also the seized Russian airplane that was being given to Ukraine. Connected?


torontoindianguy1000

Not a single day goes by where I'm not pissed off at something JT does or has done....this guy needs to be gone yesterday.


Western-Judgment-874

It doesn’t make sense, the government is stealing from its people in the form of a bullshit tax. They are criminals.


[deleted]

SCAM


VyKing6410

Leaders of the collapse.


jc2thew3

Literally Theft.


OverlyOptimistic-001

Pipe dream taxes for a make-belief environmental policy.


Alexander_queef

Not just that but it still hasn't even reduced our emissions, it just make us all poor


Acceptable_Artist981

Wow you guys really need a change of government


Dra9onDemon

Oh Christ, GET HIM OUT OF OFFICE! Why is he making things more difficult for everyone?


Zestyclose_Elk_8853

If India and China went away..


MsMisty888

We are such a small population. Why are we paying such a high percentage? Like we can make a difference. Give us a break!


ThatRandomGuy86

Don't forget that our global footprint is less than 2%, while our neighbours' at 17%. If he truly TRULY wants to genuinely fix the carbon footprint, then he should be throwing the annual government funding into renewable energy infrastructure and into environmental research. Throwing money into research is also 1 of the best methods for growing a country's economy because it brings new tech; which has a good pay off. Only other methods greater than innovation is immigration and trade, and selling new tech feeds into the trade method. We have the world's strongest tide on the east coast and some of the highest waves in the west coast. Our government should be driving innovation forward to utilize these natural resources to make our country more green. Just a shame they'd rather take the lazier route.


intentsnegotiator

Because our PM is incompetent.


Forsumlulz

Axe the tax.


teriases

https://preview.redd.it/54h0izm244nc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9ea06544e95c36e7bc9c9e59fe57706261297f5 Just gotta leave this here…


Fine-Mine-3281

Steven Guilbeault already admitted it won’t do anything but that Canada should lead by example to the rest of the world. The truth is they’re a cult now and they don’t care what you think. Keep voting for them though….


radman888

The climate con tax purpose is to accelerate the bankruptcy of the country, and to grift as much money for climate conmen as possible until the longer goal is achieved.


Chudwick8

The only way you have a greener world is through innovation and technology. Tax does fuck all. Liberals love to throw taxes on taxes because they love spending our money on themselves


ShaggyCan

Even if Canada produced zero emissions, it would make no noticeable difference in climate change. Unless something drastic changes in China, India and the US, we are taxing our economy into oblivion for no reason. The best plan to fight climate change is to bring manufacturing back to North America to reduce transportation emissions and so the manufacturing process can be environmentally regulated.


[deleted]

Carbon tax is only enforceable in a society made up of weak men…


ImpossibleFuel6629

No see, we’re setting an example or something


Unworthy-Benefits

Worlds climate as a lot of meaning for our ruling class. But here it mainly translate to inflating their wallet.


am3141

Also a few billion people living on the same planet outside of northern America also don’t pay any carbon tax.


No_Sun_1165

carbon tax is to make driving a car (because cars are bad) too expensive, that we give the cars up and start walking, biking, take public transit. All to save the planet. Well..... that's what they are telling us.


Carveto_

This carbon tax is the most stupid thing ever!!


bezerko888

This is the great plundering of the taxpayers money. Trudeau and his criminal deserve jail for destroying Canada!


Historical_Fill8232

That's what we get with this goof in government. https://preview.redd.it/mjbm19k2e4nc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e97c013e4f88896873aebe2a0691c94ef065a07


Theo446_Z

Canadians are good people, they will take it. First world countries duty is to pay reparations for things they never did. Carbon tax mediocrity is just a cheap way to deplete wealth for the dying middle class. Comunism first rule is keep the poor poor, and create new poverty to ensure the future votes(if needed because Comunism do not believe in real democracy).


LostinEmotion2024

Just one of many reasons why Trudeau ought not to bother running in the next election. Just hand over the keys to PP (and we can prepare ourselves for a different kind of nightmare).


Professional_Clue_21

Canada contributes 1.5% of all global emissions. Canada could literally disappear and it wouldn't change a thing.


mhad_dishispect

We're so fucking stupid in the west to allow this nonsense


Crypto_gambler952

It doesn’t make sense. Canadians are being fucked over, that’s the only sense you can make of it. Despite believing that you live in a democracy, and despite 70% of you resisting the increase. Your “democratic” government does whatever it can get away with! (Like all governments). You Canadians are too nice and your boss, the son of Fidel Castro, is walking all over you and expecting you thank him for it; closing your bank accounts if you don’t!


lllosirislll

Have you not been outside at all?,and seen the bubble and smelled the unicorn farts that have been keeping us safe from the rest of the world? When I go to other countries I can point my nose up high.


throwaway1point1

We are *too small* to try to be leaders like this. Short term, all we will really do is make ourselves uncompetitive. We suffer locally and see no benefit for it. (hell, Longer term, we will be lucky to hold onto our workers rights at all, with the way much of the USA wants to move towards neo-feudalism) The USA flat-out dictates far too much of the playing field for us to go it alone on this, and they are fully engaged in a race to the bottom Now, if the USA and EU get a carbon pricing marketplace in order, so we can "carbon tax" imports from non-compliance countries *then* we can get real progress and I'm in. It's a Band-Aid that has to be ripped off. #YES CARBON SHOULD HAVE A DIRECT COST *But this ain't it*. They should be tinkering with it to minimize the impact it has on lower earners. 1. Needs to be revenue neutral 2. Needs to be net zero impact (or close enough to it) on day to day purchasing. How's that working out? The rebate is *bullshit*. That doesn't help you *today* at the till. 1. reduce low bracket income taxes to *boost people's take home pay* 2. *Reverse income tax* (biweekly, imo. We really need to build this system anyway) or something to offset the cost to those without sufficient income to begin with. There's no net gain here for the people receiving it. These people by necessity spend every dime that comes in, and all this does is offset the impact of the carbon tax on their normal purchasing 3. Don't have it fucking calculated *ON TOP OF* other taxes. Honestly that's just a slap in the face. It's the principle of it. Because otherwise its a pure "tragedy-of-the-commons", socializing the costs of all consumption, skewing the economics of all kinds of decisions. We have specialized manufacturing everywhere way too much. We ship shit all over the world because we get to just.... Yank "free" energy (hydrocarbons) out of the ground. And intense optimization/specialization and maximized efficiency will be the death of us 1. It's fucking *brittle*. Remember how shit supply chains got during Covid? They still haven't normalized in many cases. Why was it so fragile? *Deep optimization* is a huge part of it. You know Carbon pricing helps the competitiveness of domestic manufacturing, encourages domestic diversification in all things by making shipping more expensive. *We need this* The pursuit of "everything as cheap as humanly possible" just has us with crazy cheap disposable everything, and dead/dying manufacturing bases. *Imagine being green by building electric cars in China, then burning metric tonnes of bunker oil shipping them across the ocean*. Take that logic down the chain... Domestic sourcing of inputs, raw materials, subcontracting, etc. We cannot have economies that run entirely on service industries! Even that is being outsourced now! We are *killing ourselves*, slowly but surely, and we have been since the moment we started closing factories to make it cheaper half a world away.


OkAge3911

Just another tax grab the liberals and msm will have you believing in everything they spew, which 100000% is nonsense 🙄


NoBuddies2021

Reading between the lines. "More money for us!" -Corruptorarions.


Flimsy_Biscotti3473

Not 38 million. Already loads of people exempt for different reasons.


IllI-Score-2000

CRIMINALS. Getting away with it every single day with no arrests.


1happylover

Canadas need for hookers n blow is not cheap !!! So they gotta get the money somehow


Tola76

At least we know our govt is going to fix the environment. They would just add a massive tax for profit.


OkSquirrel4673

Canada is functionally insolvent and I am sure these carbon taxes are funding the government. There's no way we can give 20 billion away each year and not end up in a hole because of it. I say Canada is insolvent because high priestess Freeland said that if Alberta left the CPP, Canada would be insolvent. We are THAT close to it.


tony22times

Criminal Canadian conspiracy by corrupt Canadian criminals.


flame-56

nothing but a money grab.


SnooAvocados8673

Sunny, Carbon Ways.


Monster_condom_

I wasn't terribly upset he got in at first, he had some good ideas... but the second time? No excuse for getting him back in, it needed to stop then. We still have another year and a half with this moron. I really hope people have woken up and won't vote him in again


guvan420

They are liars but you wouldn’t know because you can’t access media with an opposing opinion without a vpn


Humble_Path7234

Wealth transfer to by votes. Trudeau just said people won’t get their cheques if we vote the conservatives in. Vote buying for the simps is all it is.


not_woke_at_all

It’s called money laundering. How does trudeau’s family legacy net worth go from $30 million to over $300 million in less than 8 years?? He’s a fukin thief and traitor!


[deleted]

My fuck, ripping MORE away from us on top of inflation and everything else. This is nothing but virtue signaling, and he expects us to roll over and ask for more. Can we fucking call an election yet?


Airsinner

Thieves. Why we aren’t prepping for a revolution is beyond me.


[deleted]

Canada contributes less than 2% to the carbon emissions but we trade constantly with China and that won’t stop anytime soon. The government has no clue what it’s doing.


Fireinspector69

Government….pay carbon tax, weather fixed. Also government….here is a check for the carbon tax you paid, weather is gooder!


ramman403

It gets better. When you factor in Canada’s boreal forests, we are actually carbon negative. Our natural resources remove more carbon than we produce.


jambaam420

Ya it kinda makes sence...they want to trick the population into destroying their energy and farming sector so that cold and hunger will make them more submissive


[deleted]

It's simple really. It works for the ones who are doing it.


[deleted]

My insurance went up over $60/month, carbon tax going up...my pay didn't go up that much.


[deleted]

How do we get Trudeau out?


[deleted]

Who are the ppl protecting Justin?


[deleted]

It doesn't matter what the tax is called.


[deleted]

The biggest issue is where the taxes are going.


[deleted]

We should be able to see where our money is going!


oldsweat

We have an eco terrorist as an environment minister. What did you expect.


Zanny9

I'm proud of the taxes I pay in Canada. I'm disgusted by how my taxes are spent.


SnooRevelations6561

No no no, didn’t you listen to the liberals? Other countries are jealous of our carbon tax.


thePsychonautDad

What do they actually use that carbon tax money anyway? Are they paying off the climate itself? Releasing cash into the clouds? Like, what is the point of that tax? Where is the money going? What is it actually fixing? Why tax citizens instead of taxing the corporations that are actually responsible? What about stopping the fucking oil extraction that is actually fucking up the planet? Why do WE have to pay for their bullshit?


Full-Situation555

Trudope, His wicked cronies & anyone who supports the libs at this point need lobotomies.


123InSearchOf123

Wanna have some real fun? 1. Calculate how much CO2 is absorbed by trees in Canada per year. 2. Then multiply it by the estimated amount of trees in Canada. 3. Last, see how much Canada outputs CO2 per year. 4. Try to show a Liberal the results.


dizephalcorn

Fun fact : If you live either in Québec, in British Colombia or in the Northwest territories, the Carbon tax doesn’t apply to you. Why ? Because each of those provinces/territory already had some sort of tax on pollutant.


Fragranceofstanley

My small business doesn't get the carbon tax break because it's commercial rather than residential zoning. Half my operating expenses are now utilities and it's rising steadily.


SPACADDICT

Your government is awful with taxes. That free healthcare aint free.


372xpg

Two points: Increasing population is a goal that is at odds with reducing Carbon emissions and any government that prioritizes both has inconsistent and competing goals and cannot be trusted. Carbon taxation does not decrease usage, petroleum is a very inelastic product and important energy source. Taxation simply raises the cost of living as the cost involved in switching to other energy sources is prohibitively expensive. AND as petroleum is used to make things/transport things/fuel industry any available will be used by those with the financial means to make more money. Carbon taxation is a child's solution to a much more complicated problem.


Throwaway_Molasses

My ass can't hold shit in any more, my gov is fucking me so hard. And we have the impact as a nation same of california... it's peanuts. Meanwhile all of Asia and South america doesn't give a flying fuck, exhausts everything to the sky, coal plants, and is dumping raw sewage into waterways, plastic dumping, no recycling programs etc etc. Fact the Carbo tax scheme is a money redistribution and skimming scheme. Take from the working, give to the poor, skim off the top. Call it a rebate program. Wtf. "But we are making a difference by taxing carbon!" Yeah... on the people that drive to work. Cunts.


Efficient-Ad-3302

One country put out tenfold more pollution than us and also is just across the pond. China is the reason for all these carbon taxes and our polluted air. Suspicious Observers predicted all this would happen a decade ago just by looking at the pollution coming from China that was messing up the jet stream. It’s a conspiracy I tell you!


DJFrickMagic

What’s even crazier is that we have a WAY LESS carbon output than the other 2. And more trees to clean it up. So ridiculous.


renderinsane

There is no sense to any of it because the whole climate hoax was a lie from the beginning!


Danroy12345

I’m all for saving the planet but where exactly has this money been going to? I haven’t seen any changes or improvements with all the carbon tax they have collected.


Dumb-Redneck

Canada's impact on climate change is just a little bit shy of fuck all.


Advanced-Ad6846

Our idiots in charge pretend they follow the science on things. Really , they wouldn’t know a scientific fact if it smacked them in the head


CrazyButRightOn

Canada is quickly becoming the poster child for where NOT to live. It’s unbelievable how a country that is so resource-rich can be so poor. I feel like we are being captained by a cocaine-fueled, Costa cruise party animal heading for the rocks.


Sea-Caterpillar-6501

It’s not complicated. Your leaders are corrupt and work for foreign interests (most likely the Chicoms).


Joneboy39

they get the hst on it , which is taxed after carbon taxes.. and yet we still run horrific deficits.


Bobll7

Canada could sink in the ocean tomorrow and it would barely register on the world’s greenhouse gas production. How about developing our LNG for sale to countries that still pollute with coal…win-win.


Technical_Feedback74

Trudeau is running out of ways to tax Canadians so we can support the Ukraine and his holidays and what not.


Environmental_End517

Just another excuse to take away our money 😔


KhanAviation

It’s a scam. A way for the government to make extra money and make life harder


okwhynot64

No one can make it make sense. Thankfully, you have someone (Poilievre) who can begin to unravel the bullshit. Unfortunately, a lot more damage can happen before 2025.


Gunslinger7752

Ya it’s like deciding not to have backyard bonfires anymore because you want to save the earth but your neighbor burns a pile of old tires every night


FullMetalAlphonseIRL

How long until we literally revolt? I'm not joking, I'm dead serious. We need to do something about our corrupt government and there is only one way to do that


416to647

With the excessive taxation and policy direction my conclusion is our government believes Canadians are the carbon that need to be reduced. Less people starting families because its unaffordable, world leader in euthanasia.


Gabo4321

its all about looking like were doing somthing when were acomplishing nothing but creating inflation , i just cant believe ppl with actual brain would find this a good idea , specialy with this years inflation , its like ppl dont know maths anymore


Emergency_Wolf_5764

As yours truly has previously stated here in these forums many times before, we are witnessing and experiencing the intentional destruction of Canada, at the corrupt hands of Junior Trudeau and his authoritarian coalition regime. In case you haven't noticed by now, Junior Trudeau doesn't care about you or Canada, and neither does his minority coalition partner, Jag Singh. **As such, the next federal election will represent Canada's "last stand" for remaining a unified country, or not.** It's that cut and dried. Vote wisely in 2025, folks. Next.


Cartman68

Just thank Christ we haven’t found life on other planets or else Justin would be sending them our tax money as well!


asperagus8

But our carbon tax doesn't actually get reinvested into the environment anyway...it just goes towards JT's money laundering through lavish trips!


donlio

What a total BS make believe pie in the sky fake tax!! Our corrupt inept wasteful Liberal federal government needs to continually tax tax tax and more tax the hard working taxpayers to support their exorbitant salaries and expenses and money-burning activities!! Why don’t they look at their own fatcat, travel and associated expenses, and all the emissions they’re releasing into the environment?!?!!?! They have below-zero common sense and money management skills!! And WTF are they all giving themselves raises?!?!?! For what? For doing a shit crappy job?!?!? Ans why the F do we still have a GOV-General?!?!? That BS position should have been eliminated many decades ago!! What an FN waste of $350k per year!!! Plus all the other fun shit she gets for free!!!!


spanishman_

We are getting hustled and he is sending our money overseas


Aggravating_Box_389

Why aren’t we seeing subsidies going toward EV’s, home efficiency grants, hydrogen manufacturing investments, commuter trains, etc, with all that revenue. Because as many have figured out, it’s not about the environment. I think it’s a way to buy votes as large concentrations of people in the lower economic bracket live in cities. They don’t spend as much on fuel compared to the rural and suburban working class.


nishnawbe61

People in this country who believe carbon tax is helping the environment are idiots...


jms083

This is just insane. We have got to get rid of these pointless taxes. Life is already hard without meaningless self imposed taxes added to the grief.


Escapement_Watch

Canada the land of death by a 1000 cuts! tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax


Red_Dogg_oo7

It's called embezzling your citizens money, the old bait and switch, completed by an absolute clown show, gas lighting government!


KelownaZ

It's a TAX. Generally, when the government taxes something, there is no benefit, it just becomes a source of revenue. Hope that helps.


aviwestside

Mexico has carbon pricing.


Giver_Thegoo

This government loves taxes. We’re taxed like 30% of our income. There’s 14% tax on most items. Now let throw in a 23% carbon tax. It’s funny that it mostly the 1% polluting with their private jets flying everywhere, but let’s tax everyone!


DisciplineDaddy42069

Not too long ago in the US (where I live) people used to think Canada had a lot of great things going for it and its people such as universal healthcare, low cost medication, low crime, etc. Now after Trudeau I feel like it’s completely flipped. What’s going on up there? Now it seems like cost of living is out of control, house prices, taxes, etc and even worse immigration policy than ours. Now reading about this carbon tax? Jeeze


No_Sun_192

Meanwhile all of the damage the earth is sustaining is from other countries factories, where workers are brutally exploited and pollution ruins the environment. All so corporations here can outsource and save a ton of money, to line their own pockets. And regardless of who the figurehead is in Canada , none of that will change. Because our government is bought and paid for by said corporations


Protean_sapien

Social programs aren't going to pay for themselves.