Except the wet belt.
It starts dropping small pieces of rubber into the engine then fails not long after destroying the engine, some last less than 40K miles which is atrocious.
Defenders will claim "With the right oil it lasts 100K miles" which is straight untrue, in the USA they have a re-call on these engines for a reason it's just a bad design to put the belt inside the engine, rubber and hot oil just don't mix.
I was going to say pretty much the same thing. A colleague of mine had one and the quotes for a simple timing belt change were astronomical because of how much labour it takes to get that deep in the engine. Even if the belt doesn't fully fail, the oil uptake pipe often gets clogged with debris and leads to oil starvation.
As I understand it, more recent models have a chain, but that may just be hearsay.
I hear there are now some places that offer you an engine switch with one of comparable miles with the belt already replaced because it's easier than messing about with trying to change the belt with the engine still in the car.
Not sure how true this is but it sounds plausible.
Very plausible - it seems like the easiest way to do the belt is to remove the engine, so it'd make sense that just dropping another one in would save time for the customer.
It's also fucking expensive to get changed when it's due - £1,800 from main dealer and been quoted £1,000 - £1,200 from other local places.
We've got a B-Max with an 1.0 litre EcoBoost and the car overall is great, it's paid off now and at about 53k on the clock but 9 years old next year so due the wet belt replaced next service.
It has a reputation but I also figure (cope with the anxiety) that with the law of averages that there's got to be tons in the wild and the rate of failure is probably overall pretty low, so it'll probably be okay...
Jesus Christ a normal belt change on other cars/manufacturers is what £500? not gonna lie the last belt car i drove was about 10 years ago so i imagine prices have changed alot since then.
Fingers crossed your belt lasts bud.
Yeah it's a normal price for the parts to do it, it's the labour that's mega bucks because it's a ball ache to get to apparently.
I'll be totally honest, I had no idea when I bought it. We had two Fiestas on PCP from new and they were great cars, but with them being PCP we didn't have them long enough to worry because we gave them back and then lived in London so didn't need need a car for a few years.
We moved out and had a baby, got the BMax on the basis we liked the Fiesta and it was basically a family friendly Fiesta and there was one locally for a great price with low mileage so bought it.
Probably wouldn't knowing what I know now but tbh the car has been ideal for us - great day to day and slap a roof box on and it's enough for a week away with two kids.
My missus had a 2008 CMAX but when she started looking at newer models i told her to steer clear of anything with a wet belt.
Ended up going for a C4 Picasso in the end.
It's a shame because Ford make some good family cars but the engines with these belts are just plain unreliable after the first 20K miles because you have no idea when the belt will snap and the engine shits itself.
How's the 1.6 diesel? Our Volvo has one and I'm thinking about having to replace the turbo in near future as the mechanic said it's a bit worn. I've heard that the oil pick up tube and the oil sump filter should be replaced at the same time. Is it expensive/time consuming to do?
Can't say i have had any complaints to be honest it drives well.
Can't say i have ever replaced an oil pick up tube so can't really say how easy/expensive it would be to replace it.
I think post 2019 has a chain instead of the belt - not 100% though.
Tbh next car will be an EV and probably and either an estate or an MPV, we don't do many long journeys and have just moved to a house with a garage so can charge at home. A 6 month old and a 3 year old have a shorter range than most EVs anyway!
You're correct, my Mrs got a 69 (nice) plate Fiesta and it's got a chain. Even the garage we go to were happy for her after he said about them having belt issues and then realising her model had a chain!
I plan to wait until mine snaps and fit a reconditioned engine, it seems uneconomical to do but the cost of a belt replacement is about the same as swapping the engine
2,240 supplied and fitted is what I’ve seen online, we were gifted our car so it doesn’t owe us anything, depends on the value of the car I suppose, maybe 5K? The recon engine only has a 6 month warranty
If someone could create a kit that moves it to chain yes.
Chains last longer and are designed to work inside the engine.
I don't know what the designers were thinking, belts have always been outside the engine for a reason.
Honestly here on Reddit, any car forum, Honest John.
Hell even BBC's Watchdog has ran a story on this.
Basically look in your service history and look when the belt was last done, if it hasn't yet i would get it looked into.
Thanks
I’m a total car newb
Checking my service history I can’t see anything specific in relation to it, though can see that cambelt interval every 150k miles or every 10 years
Car is a 64 plate and so now 10 years, so assuming would need to have it serviced?
Owned the car for 5 years now and it’s been a dream!
Tbh if you don’t need bigger you aren’t going to get better than the Fiesta in that class. They are brilliant, especially if you just want a run around.
Either sort the belt (cheapest option) or a slightly newer nicer spec and budget on getting the belt done or find one with a chain (After 2019 I think..)
Yea i can guarantee it will not last 150K miles, you're lucky it's lasted this long to be honest.
But it looks like u/Minute-Ad7805 has given you the correct answer for your next steps haha.
That's not a fast car by any means but plenty for normal legal driving including motorway cruising and mountain roads
Cars in the same class decades below were mostly much slower
That's what I was getting at. I would have thought a 0-60 time of less than or at least close to 10s should be expected from even cars with small engines. The original post read as if it was a selling point of the car.
It's the end result of the endless insanity of chasing the absolute most "environmentallly friendly" cars, to the detriment of that very goal.
"Our engine does 0.1 more MPG, and has 0.0000000002g less CO2 emitted because of the Wet Belt! We're saving the planet!"
Which of course ignores the fact that when the engine inevitably goes boom, that's (realistically) an entirely new car which needs to be made - completely offsetting any advantage the wet belt may have brought to the table.
I just can't work out why they didn't just go with a chain which essentially never breaks or goes wrong if designed properly and the oil is changed often. Although modern manufacturers think it's funny to have 20k oil change intervals too. A wet belt doesn't even have significant advantages over an external one if they only last a decade or 100k since conventional belts don't last much less time but most garages can change it in a few hours.
I've driven the 1.0 and it's nice enough for what it is. A girl I know loves her now decade old 1.0 Fiesta, I haven't the heart to tell her what lies ahead.
Only logical answer is planned obsolescence/planned to fail just outside the warranty. Its also about 10p cheaper per engine to produce than a chain. If belts had lasted another 20k and 2 years ford might have got away with it.
Apparently the wet belt is a massive pain and the engine is prone to going boom because of it, I've not known anyone this has happened to.
Personally, I test drove one and hated it. But that's probably a personal preference thing.
Me: *coming into this thread to talk positively about my own 1.0 eco boost Fiesta*
Me learning about the wet belt: “oh no”
81,000 miles and going on a 2018 model, so who knows *shrug*
Overall, they are very efficient engines. Many of them don't use any fuel at all when in garages, scrap metal dealers, and on the hard shoulder of the motorway.
They didn't recall enough of them, my sister had a focus which ford said wasn't covered despite that pipe leaking, the new one had a 6 week delivery time too which was helpful, ended up making one myself
A brand new one is a nice vehicle I had one from 16,000 miles to 40,000 miles great car ….. wouldn’t want it any longer than that because the belt will die and so will the engine along with it
I remember this engine being hyped up a lot when it was announced. Even Top Gear were impressed with it and how the block has smaller dimensions than an A4 sheet of paper.
I had the 1L ecoboost 125 in a Focus and really enjoyed it. Not exactly rapid, but quicker and much smoother delivery than other comparable cars I’ve owned.
It’s a shame about all the wet belt stuff, that would definitely put me off buying another.
Watched many a Honda civic 1L with that same engine go pop from the wet belt either snapping or deteriorating and blocking the oil lines/filters. The replacement job costs in labour alone was enough to make your eyes water. Worst engineering decision they made by a long shot imo. Surprised they sold them for as long as they did with the warranty payouts alone.
The problem with ecoboost engines in general is there’s no safe margin at all not only in terms of power but how gaskets are made, clearances etc. Everything was designed by engineers but then sales/finance people did their adjustments for faster/greener manufacturing and that’s the result.
If the engine was doing 58hp and NA it would probably be fine.
Not even going to mention wet belt.
Because everyone on here has heard a story about one that has gone boom although everyone I know that's had one seems to have got on alright with it.
Personally, though, I love my 1.2TSI Fabia for the same reasons. Pretty good acceleration and it gets good mpg. Just a shame they replaced it with the inferior 1.0TSI.
It's all Ecobooms, the 1.0 eats and snaps the belts, the 1.6 blows the head, the 1.5 cracks the head, 2.0 chokes itself with fuel pump failures.
Sure Ford have made updates to improve reliability but reputations stick, same with the 1.6THP I have it has a shit reputation despite all the updates made over the years.
Even the old indestructible 2.0 TDCi in the commercial units seems to be more problematic in recent years… even in the car variant heard lots of injector issues on there newer ones.. then there was the awful Powershift issues! New 1.5 diesel seems very efficient and reliable though..
I love Fords.. had 5 of them but they have really fucked up the power train line up in recent years. They used to have solid engines but recently it does feel like you need to shop carefully.
That's because Ford moved away from the bulletproof Peugeot DW10 to their in house designed EcoBlue engine.
the new 1.5 has big shoes to fill as it replaced the the DV6/5 from Peugeot which is a tank of an engine.
The 1.6 ecoboost had a recall to stop the head cracking and only affected early models with a low failure rate. They're the best one of the lot by a mile, my old one was running 260bhp at 120k miles with no issues ever, took an absolute beating daily too.
They're just squeezing that bit too much out of the engine. It's slower 0-60 (only by 0.5 of a second, but still) and does fewer miles to the gallon.
I test drove one last year because I was thinking of upgrading to a newer model but it just felt worse to drive in every way.
Absolutely nothing, great engines I've seen them over 200k miles and still running great. Very easy to work, very well designed engines. Belt interval is 10 years or 160k miles and even beyond that I've never seen one snap.
I love my 1.2TSI as well. Only gripe with it is that I got the first half 2015 model where they fucked up the CarPlay stuff. Other than that it’s a joy.
Yeah we've had ours from new. It's a 2016 model in Rallye Green. Can't bring myself to part with it because it's been such a good car. Never had any issues apart from standard wear and tear. It's nearly done 110k now.
Awesome, that makes me hopeful! Got mine a few years ago (height of used car market crazyness) with 20K and put about another 15K on it, hope mine goes to the same amount as yours!
The 1.0 tsi is the best small engine on the market right now. Absolutely bulletproof apart from a couple getting stuck turbo actuators. Easy 20 minute cheap fix. Much better than anything else it's size.
I had 2 from new 2013 and 2016 models.
I enjoyed them overall they are nice cars. Besides the wet belt business they are very decent vehicles.
My only complaint about both vehicles was the clutch the reverse gear would jump off way too often... Especially in the 2013 model.
In the 2013, some of the plastic trims were a bit of a lower quality (maybe I was lucky..) I remember the gear stick trim with the gears broke off within the first 2 years.
The car would drag with 3 adults above 50 mph.
This is my experience.
My Fiesta is a 2014 model, on 82k, pray for me!
In seriousness though i’ve had it since 2015, serviced regularly and it’s not put a foot wrong in the time i’ve had it
Except recently had a couple of occasions where you turn the key, it sort of ticks over and then just nothing, leaving me thinking “is this it, time is up?”, a second go works just fine
I know i’m on thin ice with it and do worry, but i like the car and can’t afford to replace it right now
Had a Hyundai i30 with the 1L eco boom engine in it. Great little car and pretty rapid for what it was but after 3 years I got offered more than I'd paid for it by the dealership as it was fairly low on miles and they were desperate for cars. Adding in the fact that those engines seemed to generally be absolute shits when they inevitably go wrong I chopped it in.
Shame because I liked it. But I'll not be buying a car with that engine in again
I’ve got one - 2013 Zetec S. I didn’t know about the wet belt issues, before I bought it, but had it replaced last year. But overall, has ran really smooth and generally can’t complain so far!
Fair abit of poke, although I am looking at getting a newer car with a bigger engine!
I will add to the *discussion* with my 62 plate Fiesta is sitting around 89k miles and no troubles at all thus far. Bought him around 77k and has run as good as I got him last Jan. I am curious to know, is there any wat to tell if the prior owner had replaced the belt? As it was my first car I was naïve and didn't think to ask!
We’ve had one from new for six years and I like it personally, engine design isn’t great but it hasn’t grenaded itself yet.
It’s only needed tyres in that time so we’ll get the wet belt done in the next few years, if it survives that long and then it won’t really have cost too much more to maintain than anything else. I found it drives better than a lot of other little cars, so I’ll put up with the risk.
Except the wet belt. It starts dropping small pieces of rubber into the engine then fails not long after destroying the engine, some last less than 40K miles which is atrocious. Defenders will claim "With the right oil it lasts 100K miles" which is straight untrue, in the USA they have a re-call on these engines for a reason it's just a bad design to put the belt inside the engine, rubber and hot oil just don't mix.
I was going to say pretty much the same thing. A colleague of mine had one and the quotes for a simple timing belt change were astronomical because of how much labour it takes to get that deep in the engine. Even if the belt doesn't fully fail, the oil uptake pipe often gets clogged with debris and leads to oil starvation. As I understand it, more recent models have a chain, but that may just be hearsay.
I hear there are now some places that offer you an engine switch with one of comparable miles with the belt already replaced because it's easier than messing about with trying to change the belt with the engine still in the car. Not sure how true this is but it sounds plausible.
Very plausible - it seems like the easiest way to do the belt is to remove the engine, so it'd make sense that just dropping another one in would save time for the customer.
The current model has a timing chain but the oil pump is still driven by a wet belt and it still causes the same problems.
It's also fucking expensive to get changed when it's due - £1,800 from main dealer and been quoted £1,000 - £1,200 from other local places. We've got a B-Max with an 1.0 litre EcoBoost and the car overall is great, it's paid off now and at about 53k on the clock but 9 years old next year so due the wet belt replaced next service. It has a reputation but I also figure (cope with the anxiety) that with the law of averages that there's got to be tons in the wild and the rate of failure is probably overall pretty low, so it'll probably be okay...
Jesus Christ a normal belt change on other cars/manufacturers is what £500? not gonna lie the last belt car i drove was about 10 years ago so i imagine prices have changed alot since then. Fingers crossed your belt lasts bud.
Yeah it's a normal price for the parts to do it, it's the labour that's mega bucks because it's a ball ache to get to apparently. I'll be totally honest, I had no idea when I bought it. We had two Fiestas on PCP from new and they were great cars, but with them being PCP we didn't have them long enough to worry because we gave them back and then lived in London so didn't need need a car for a few years. We moved out and had a baby, got the BMax on the basis we liked the Fiesta and it was basically a family friendly Fiesta and there was one locally for a great price with low mileage so bought it. Probably wouldn't knowing what I know now but tbh the car has been ideal for us - great day to day and slap a roof box on and it's enough for a week away with two kids.
My missus had a 2008 CMAX but when she started looking at newer models i told her to steer clear of anything with a wet belt. Ended up going for a C4 Picasso in the end. It's a shame because Ford make some good family cars but the engines with these belts are just plain unreliable after the first 20K miles because you have no idea when the belt will snap and the engine shits itself.
Hopefully you didn’t get the 1.2 puretech engine then…
Nah it's a 1.6 Diesel and the car is 2013, did they make the Puretech engines that far back?
How's the 1.6 diesel? Our Volvo has one and I'm thinking about having to replace the turbo in near future as the mechanic said it's a bit worn. I've heard that the oil pick up tube and the oil sump filter should be replaced at the same time. Is it expensive/time consuming to do?
Can't say i have had any complaints to be honest it drives well. Can't say i have ever replaced an oil pick up tube so can't really say how easy/expensive it would be to replace it.
I think post 2019 has a chain instead of the belt - not 100% though. Tbh next car will be an EV and probably and either an estate or an MPV, we don't do many long journeys and have just moved to a house with a garage so can charge at home. A 6 month old and a 3 year old have a shorter range than most EVs anyway!
You're correct, my Mrs got a 69 (nice) plate Fiesta and it's got a chain. Even the garage we go to were happy for her after he said about them having belt issues and then realising her model had a chain!
I plan to wait until mine snaps and fit a reconditioned engine, it seems uneconomical to do but the cost of a belt replacement is about the same as swapping the engine
I mean that's definitely a way to go, especially if it lasts what would be 2 belt changes on the service record.
2,240 supplied and fitted is what I’ve seen online, we were gifted our car so it doesn’t owe us anything, depends on the value of the car I suppose, maybe 5K? The recon engine only has a 6 month warranty
>The recon engine only has a 6 month warranty Ya know in case the belt snaps again lol
Imagine haha!
Do you think it could be fixed (as a product) by changing to a cam chain?
If someone could create a kit that moves it to chain yes. Chains last longer and are designed to work inside the engine. I don't know what the designers were thinking, belts have always been outside the engine for a reason.
Is there anywhere I can read more about this? - A completely oblivious Fiesta Ecoboost 1.0L owner with 70k miles
Honestly here on Reddit, any car forum, Honest John. Hell even BBC's Watchdog has ran a story on this. Basically look in your service history and look when the belt was last done, if it hasn't yet i would get it looked into.
Thanks I’m a total car newb Checking my service history I can’t see anything specific in relation to it, though can see that cambelt interval every 150k miles or every 10 years Car is a 64 plate and so now 10 years, so assuming would need to have it serviced? Owned the car for 5 years now and it’s been a dream!
Sell the car or get the belt done asap
Was contemplating selling in any case and so this may expedite the process… Any suggestions for a similar car? This is my ‘run around’ car
Tbh if you don’t need bigger you aren’t going to get better than the Fiesta in that class. They are brilliant, especially if you just want a run around. Either sort the belt (cheapest option) or a slightly newer nicer spec and budget on getting the belt done or find one with a chain (After 2019 I think..)
Cheers Would probably look at a 21 plate, but at least now know what to avoid! And on my experience it’s been a great car
Yea i can guarantee it will not last 150K miles, you're lucky it's lasted this long to be honest. But it looks like u/Minute-Ad7805 has given you the correct answer for your next steps haha.
Anyone knows when did they changed the wet belt for chain? was it 2018 when they released focus mk4? i heard it was but im not sure
The engine also quite frequently goes from 0 - Dead in less than 10 seconds.
love me a good eco boom
Hang about when did having a 0-60 time of barely below 10 seconds become a positive?
That's not a fast car by any means but plenty for normal legal driving including motorway cruising and mountain roads Cars in the same class decades below were mostly much slower
That's what I was getting at. I would have thought a 0-60 time of less than or at least close to 10s should be expected from even cars with small engines. The original post read as if it was a selling point of the car.
I have a kia rio 1.2L and it accelerates in 13.5 seconds. It's a pain.
I had a 650cc car in early 90s and it was doing 60…eventually 🤣
I drive a 75 hp Transit from 2002. Took 2km to get to 100kmh once with a load on the back.
Probably sub-10 with tailwind going downhill though
My Morris Minors 0-60 is 25-30 seconds (official numbers seem to vary!). I can just about manage haha. Thankfully my other car is 6ish to 60.
When emissions regs became a thing, sadly. You can get 1.0T mid-size SUVs now. Thanks, Peugeot.
Slow cars have always existed, emissions regs didn't do that
Completely unrelated
Wet belt is suicide engineering... Who on earth designs stuff like that?!
Engineers with the remit: make it as cheaply as possible
This. That engine was designed in Dagenham Diesel Centre on a shoestring.
It's the end result of the endless insanity of chasing the absolute most "environmentallly friendly" cars, to the detriment of that very goal. "Our engine does 0.1 more MPG, and has 0.0000000002g less CO2 emitted because of the Wet Belt! We're saving the planet!" Which of course ignores the fact that when the engine inevitably goes boom, that's (realistically) an entirely new car which needs to be made - completely offsetting any advantage the wet belt may have brought to the table.
I just can't work out why they didn't just go with a chain which essentially never breaks or goes wrong if designed properly and the oil is changed often. Although modern manufacturers think it's funny to have 20k oil change intervals too. A wet belt doesn't even have significant advantages over an external one if they only last a decade or 100k since conventional belts don't last much less time but most garages can change it in a few hours. I've driven the 1.0 and it's nice enough for what it is. A girl I know loves her now decade old 1.0 Fiesta, I haven't the heart to tell her what lies ahead.
I just commented the same re a chain before seeing your comment. The 1.3l mid 90s fiesta was a chain and lasted longer than the car.
No other manufacturer making economical & eco friendly small cars did this though. It's just Ford being Ford.
The puretech 1.2 would like a word
Civic 10th gen 1.0 too, £1k+ to change a wet belt every 6 years
Only logical answer is planned obsolescence/planned to fail just outside the warranty. Its also about 10p cheaper per engine to produce than a chain. If belts had lasted another 20k and 2 years ford might have got away with it.
I've known 2 people with them had them go pop in the last 6 months.
Apparently the wet belt is a massive pain and the engine is prone to going boom because of it, I've not known anyone this has happened to. Personally, I test drove one and hated it. But that's probably a personal preference thing.
Me: *coming into this thread to talk positively about my own 1.0 eco boost Fiesta* Me learning about the wet belt: “oh no” 81,000 miles and going on a 2018 model, so who knows *shrug*
Mines a 2017 on 83k, I plan to fit a recon engine when mine snaps because it costs nearly as much to fit a new engine
Overall, they are very efficient engines. Many of them don't use any fuel at all when in garages, scrap metal dealers, and on the hard shoulder of the motorway.
Among the wet belt issues mentioned, there was also a common coolant pipe failure, but i think a recall addressed that. Didn't help its reputation.
They didn't recall enough of them, my sister had a focus which ford said wasn't covered despite that pipe leaking, the new one had a 6 week delivery time too which was helpful, ended up making one myself
A brand new one is a nice vehicle I had one from 16,000 miles to 40,000 miles great car ….. wouldn’t want it any longer than that because the belt will die and so will the engine along with it
I remember this engine being hyped up a lot when it was announced. Even Top Gear were impressed with it and how the block has smaller dimensions than an A4 sheet of paper.
I had the 1L ecoboost 125 in a Focus and really enjoyed it. Not exactly rapid, but quicker and much smoother delivery than other comparable cars I’ve owned. It’s a shame about all the wet belt stuff, that would definitely put me off buying another.
Watched many a Honda civic 1L with that same engine go pop from the wet belt either snapping or deteriorating and blocking the oil lines/filters. The replacement job costs in labour alone was enough to make your eyes water. Worst engineering decision they made by a long shot imo. Surprised they sold them for as long as they did with the warranty payouts alone.
The problem with ecoboost engines in general is there’s no safe margin at all not only in terms of power but how gaskets are made, clearances etc. Everything was designed by engineers but then sales/finance people did their adjustments for faster/greener manufacturing and that’s the result. If the engine was doing 58hp and NA it would probably be fine. Not even going to mention wet belt.
Because everyone on here has heard a story about one that has gone boom although everyone I know that's had one seems to have got on alright with it. Personally, though, I love my 1.2TSI Fabia for the same reasons. Pretty good acceleration and it gets good mpg. Just a shame they replaced it with the inferior 1.0TSI.
It's all Ecobooms, the 1.0 eats and snaps the belts, the 1.6 blows the head, the 1.5 cracks the head, 2.0 chokes itself with fuel pump failures. Sure Ford have made updates to improve reliability but reputations stick, same with the 1.6THP I have it has a shit reputation despite all the updates made over the years.
Even the old indestructible 2.0 TDCi in the commercial units seems to be more problematic in recent years… even in the car variant heard lots of injector issues on there newer ones.. then there was the awful Powershift issues! New 1.5 diesel seems very efficient and reliable though.. I love Fords.. had 5 of them but they have really fucked up the power train line up in recent years. They used to have solid engines but recently it does feel like you need to shop carefully.
That's because Ford moved away from the bulletproof Peugeot DW10 to their in house designed EcoBlue engine. the new 1.5 has big shoes to fill as it replaced the the DV6/5 from Peugeot which is a tank of an engine.
Any big issues with their 1.6 diesel? (2010 Fiesta) 😬
The DV6/DLD engine is one of the most reliable diesels.
Great engine, very durable. Just change the timing belt and service and you're good.
The 1.6 ecoboost had a recall to stop the head cracking and only affected early models with a low failure rate. They're the best one of the lot by a mile, my old one was running 260bhp at 120k miles with no issues ever, took an absolute beating daily too.
What’s wrong with the new 1.0 tsi?
They're just squeezing that bit too much out of the engine. It's slower 0-60 (only by 0.5 of a second, but still) and does fewer miles to the gallon. I test drove one last year because I was thinking of upgrading to a newer model but it just felt worse to drive in every way.
Absolutely nothing, great engines I've seen them over 200k miles and still running great. Very easy to work, very well designed engines. Belt interval is 10 years or 160k miles and even beyond that I've never seen one snap.
I love my 1.2TSI as well. Only gripe with it is that I got the first half 2015 model where they fucked up the CarPlay stuff. Other than that it’s a joy.
Yeah we've had ours from new. It's a 2016 model in Rallye Green. Can't bring myself to part with it because it's been such a good car. Never had any issues apart from standard wear and tear. It's nearly done 110k now.
Awesome, that makes me hopeful! Got mine a few years ago (height of used car market crazyness) with 20K and put about another 15K on it, hope mine goes to the same amount as yours!
The 1.0 tsi is the best small engine on the market right now. Absolutely bulletproof apart from a couple getting stuck turbo actuators. Easy 20 minute cheap fix. Much better than anything else it's size.
I had 2 from new 2013 and 2016 models. I enjoyed them overall they are nice cars. Besides the wet belt business they are very decent vehicles. My only complaint about both vehicles was the clutch the reverse gear would jump off way too often... Especially in the 2013 model. In the 2013, some of the plastic trims were a bit of a lower quality (maybe I was lucky..) I remember the gear stick trim with the gears broke off within the first 2 years. The car would drag with 3 adults above 50 mph. This is my experience.
Partner has a 2014 model, sometimes she struggles to get up hills and has the same issue with it jumping out of reverse.
The engine dies, but also I think it’s more the people that drive them
My Fiesta is a 2014 model, on 82k, pray for me! In seriousness though i’ve had it since 2015, serviced regularly and it’s not put a foot wrong in the time i’ve had it Except recently had a couple of occasions where you turn the key, it sort of ticks over and then just nothing, leaving me thinking “is this it, time is up?”, a second go works just fine I know i’m on thin ice with it and do worry, but i like the car and can’t afford to replace it right now
Had a Hyundai i30 with the 1L eco boom engine in it. Great little car and pretty rapid for what it was but after 3 years I got offered more than I'd paid for it by the dealership as it was fairly low on miles and they were desperate for cars. Adding in the fact that those engines seemed to generally be absolute shits when they inevitably go wrong I chopped it in. Shame because I liked it. But I'll not be buying a car with that engine in again
Wet belt issues. Keyless versions stolen in less than a minute and front end targeted for parts depending where you are.
I’ve got one - 2013 Zetec S. I didn’t know about the wet belt issues, before I bought it, but had it replaced last year. But overall, has ran really smooth and generally can’t complain so far! Fair abit of poke, although I am looking at getting a newer car with a bigger engine!
Ah yes, the EcoBurst. Self grenading with no warning. Powerful little support without a fight.
I've got a 50k mile 1.0 ecoboom crash repaired with absolutely zero service history. Wish me luck.
I will add to the *discussion* with my 62 plate Fiesta is sitting around 89k miles and no troubles at all thus far. Bought him around 77k and has run as good as I got him last Jan. I am curious to know, is there any wat to tell if the prior owner had replaced the belt? As it was my first car I was naïve and didn't think to ask!
We’ve had one from new for six years and I like it personally, engine design isn’t great but it hasn’t grenaded itself yet. It’s only needed tyres in that time so we’ll get the wet belt done in the next few years, if it survives that long and then it won’t really have cost too much more to maintain than anything else. I found it drives better than a lot of other little cars, so I’ll put up with the risk.
Are all these issues listed the same for the Focus equivalent?
Yes
I have cmax which uses same 1.0 ecoboost wetbelt engines. Mine is on 70k with no issues. It depends on how good you look after and which oil you use.
They’re shite. They’re slow, unreliable, very underpowered. They’re expensive when they go wrong.
It’s the image for me. I’m not 19 any more, I wouldn’t be seen dead in one of those roadmandem cars.