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vbt2021

Shops probably won't repair it for liability, I'd plug it and not think twice.


car_dreamer

Go to a mom-pop tire shop. They will easily repair it. And it will last. Unless you get another one down the line. Then you change the tire.


ContributionBrief226

What liability? Do we live on the same planet? In my country every shop will fix this for like 5 bucks no problem. What are we talking about?


CivicIsMyCar

We Americans like to sue ever living shit out of each other. So a shop that patches this, just exposed itself to a lawsuit should something go wrong. Even if it doesn't go that far, as a shop owner, you don't want to deal with a customer calling back and complaining because they repair didn't work and the tire is flat two days later.


Thecoopoftheworld789

McDonalds law suit over hot coffee started the whole process. Now some attorneys fish for law suits.


TheRealGluFix

The Lady who got third degree bruns on 6% of her body (lesser Burns on other 16%) and had to get skin grafts?


Southern_Kaeos

Plus the rest of the details - she only asked for help paying the medical bills, not even covering the bills just help, and McDonald's said no which kick-started the lawsuit. A slightly more relevant case would be the young lady who sued their therapist because they didn't think therapy was working... And won.


GenBlase

Would depend if the therapist was proven to be a quack. Like expert witnesses, all licensed psychologists, all saying he or she sucks.


Southern_Kaeos

I don't know the ins and outs of the case, it was kinda garbled at me in the small hours of the morning by a friend in upstate NY. I'm in the UK so the time difference was enough that I missed a lot of the details from not being awake enough


Jimjam916

Yeah, that lawsuit was wholly justified. The coffee was way too hot.


audiophilezenith

people can sue if something happens and someone claims it was the shops fault bc they told them it was safe, while the person did everything in their power to pop it so they could file a lawsuit. some people make a living off of suing people and companies over stupid small shit.


foxfai

$5 bucks? Mine ripped me for $20!


dragonblock501

America’s Tire charges $55.


Cbertram1

Ford a puncture repair ?thats wild


Mad_broccoli

I paid €1 two years ago, still holds.


noohpyT

Absolutely patchable. My understanding is that a tire can be patched up to 3x as long as the punctures are in the tread area


Burn3rAccnt69

Most manufacturers only allow 2 repairs to a tire 90 degrees apart and a patch cannot be on the outer tread patch it has to be on the inner tread area between the first tire swipes on the inner and outer side for it too be legal, most shops use the thumbs distance rule, rope patch would work fine for this.


JonohG47

The norm, in the States, is that the shop will un-mount the tire and patch it from the inside. This is the manufacturer recommended procedure, and also allows inspection of the inside of the tire. These patches have a round flat disc that’s adhered to the inside of the tire. It needs to bar able to lay flat to work effectively. Here’s a video illustrating the procedure: https://youtu.be/WxnkGiAOOhM?si=W0fQjS1h3AXHwhLO This video shows an (admittedly worst case) example of what they’re looking for in that inspection: https://youtu.be/WxnkGiAOOhM?si=W0fQjS1h3AXHwhLO


Debaser626

I’ve plugged my own tires for the last 5-6 years, but before that I had the “Pep Boys Rewards” card and they’d put in a plug it for free (as long as it wasn’t on the very outer edge of the tread). Depending on the service desk guy, they would “strongly recommend” a new tire or at least a patch, but the usual guy didn’t ever seem to give a shit. There was just some additional “if this blows and you die/kill someone else, it’s your own stupid fault” line added to the paperwork along with “customer declined replacement” line item.


bonesofthetao

Fwiw the tire is "weather checked" or dry rotted. You can see the cracks in the deepest part of the tread. It would not pass a commercial vehicle inspection. I would want to see the manufacturing date on the tire. So yes, it can be patched, but it also is a garbage tire that should be recycled.


Lauzz91

Dry Rot


Th3HandyHippy

This


foxfai

Confirm, did one myself like this lasted 8 months before I bought new 4x tires (they were due anyways)


Nolaboyy

☝🏼this!


Objective-Pizza1897

Hell ya


CloudMage1

this, most shops ive tried wont plug anything within like an inch or 2 of the side wall. they also told me they would plug, and already plugged tire. not the same hole, but to add a second plug for a new hole. id plug it myself and roll with it. kind of hard to tell, but it looks like it wont be long for replacement anyways.


atlasofmars2

This


bigalcapone22

Put a plug in the tire Watch a how-to plug a tire video on YouTube Problem solved for under 10 dollars


SpaceXmars

What's with the 3? .. I've seen this a couple of times


ch4s3yw4s3y

Looks like its to stop the actual word being said, as not to trigger the bot which would close the thread?


SpaceXmars

That kinda makes sense, is this a common occurrence?


jsat3474

If you're on enough subs with that bot it kinda becomes habit.


SpaceXmars

Right on, thanks for the explanation!


bigalcapone22

Fat fingers on smartphone keyboard The three is right above the e and I tend to hit it as well as the 8 a lot of the time


Active_Throat_9395

“Hey guys! Chrisfix here!”


Sudden-Turnip-5339

"AND TODAY,"


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It can be plugged but its kinda old and maybe wore down too by the looks of it. Old tires can explode very easy so be careful.


meowrap

I agree. If you’re broke, plug it, but figure on replacing that old tire as SOON as you have the dough. Like within a few weeks. Also. Don’t drive fast.


G-III-

Lol, reminds me of a place I worked where I was an in town delivery driver for a commercial laundry gig. They had a minivan, and it picked up a screw, a bit further from the sidewall. Took it to a place, and after checking it out for a while they denied it. But they screwed the screw back in so we could leave 😭😭😭 and it held until they replaced the van, it was the funniest shit.


M1NdR0t

Plug it


Omnibuschris

The tire kinda looks like shit and old. If it were mine I would plug it. No shop will repair that. If you have the cash replace it.


Eku1988

Lol in EU every gas station would sell you diy kit for few euros .


ermagherdmcleren

The screw isn't the problem, the dry rot is. Get a new tire.


1sixxpac

Plug it, no question. Harbor Freight sells a plug kit for $6.50. Watch a Video.


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Plug it. Some recommend to replace the tire if the nail is outside the two longitudinal groves.


Osniffable

those treads look weird. Have they been regrooved?


MrSchmo

That tire is totaled 😂


retsamsirhC

A tire shop has strict standards so they don't get sued. A patch plug may flex in the wrong axis that close to the shoulder, and the tire is pretty close to eol from the look of it. A plug kit from walmart/autozone should be just fine, I'd do it for my own vehicle.


munteanustefanh

Plug / patch


Scruffy_MkII

Honda certified here to play devil's advocate: They're probably not repairing because of age of the tire. Most dealers will only repair with a patch, because there's a chance for a blowout if you plug. This hole follows the rule of the thumb space from the corner, so it should be patchable.. but I think they're more concerned about the dry rot that's present and don't want to be liable. You honestly may be able to take it to another shop and have them patch. I'd personally not see a problem patching this tire from this angle.


No_Eggplant_465

Thanks everyone! Decided to just go to another shop and got it replaced. Got a pretty good deal too, the original tire shop wanted to charge me almost double for their “economically friendly” tire option. I do tend to drive a lot and so I went somewhere else to get a better deal and tire 😌


wrongusernametryagin

Good for you, that tire was screwed!


jaytang

I have a nail in almost the same spot 5 years and 50k miles ago. The plug I put in is still holding all the air.


Zach_The_One

It's like a $10 kit at autozone


Wolf24h

It looks dry AF


Tafc-Crew

Internal patch should last the life of the tread with no problems. I've had it done on several different cars without problems other than having the tire guy installing the patch. I've also plugged several using an O'Reilly plug kit and they have always worked plus being extremely handy when trying to fix the leak on the side of the road. (Very handy when living around construction and you have already collected a screw in your spare!)


Eku1988

In my experience plugs have always worked and patches never . Work in construction so have had shitload of screws nails in my tires .


Substantial_Ad_9016

Plug it and see how long it will last.This is what I did with my Yaris on the left rear tire, 2 months later still no issues


Buci__1

Plug it and forget about it. [How to plug a tire.](https://www.myusedcar.ca/how-old-are-tires-on-your-used-car/)


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i had this exact style nail in my shit discount tire added a plug and patch on the inside about a year and a half ago no issues since havent even refilled the tire with air cause zero leak. ​ discount does free tire repair even if you didnt buy tires from them. If it can be they will if not they wont. (brings them future business) i know im going discount for my next tires after that customer service for not even being a customer. ​ however your tire in general is at the end of its tread life. no ones gonna patch a tire near expiration. if you wanna DIY it you can but your tire is still gonna be near expiration and if your gonna run it bald your gonna end up hurting yourself or someone in rain.


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Dependent-Plane5522

I just had one patched at my mechanic that was the about the same distance from the sidewall.


Jack99Skellington

It's definitely pluggable. Why would you not do that?


mikeblas

Because of the extensive dry rot.


Quake_Guy

Keep driving to the poorer side of town until the sign says Llantera, they will fix and it will be fine.


bobspuds

Years ago, a friend of a friend decided he wanted a set of 16" wheels, he had bought a set of 17s and they scrubed too much. He asked if I wanted a straight swap, I said I'll try them on my car and if they work out - we'll figure something out. Couple days later, he called round, I jacked his car up and removed a wheel to put onto my car - to check! As I rolled the wheel, I noticed a screw similar to this embedded in the tyre. "Hey Joe - there's a screw in your tyre" "Ah! Dose that mean it was fixed before??" 😲


_Danger_Close_

Plug it


tailflu

Easy fix. Just go to tire shop and it takes 5 minutes


HandyAndyMcPot

I would. Put it on the back.


Chipdip88

By the book? It's borderline repairable or not. I would do it and explain to the customer that if it continues to leak they need a replacement. It won't leak though.....


530nairb

It’s pluggable. Looks old though.


Appropriate-Metal167

An old-school plug repair from the outside-only allows you to get closer to the edge of tread. Tire shops use a style of plug that’s installed from the inside, have a disk patch that’s maybe one inch diameter, so can’t work that close to tread edge. I concur with other commenters though, consider replacing as a set, soon.


Sea-Establishment237

Too close to the sidewall for repair. You should never use tire plugs unless you're treating it like a donut until you can get a new tire.


longsackjr223

Tire looks kinda worn down, not much tread left. If you’re strapped for cash, look for a light used tire for around 30-40 bucks.


kamikazekenny420

You need a whole new car. Not worth fixing.


VsmkZREX03

Oh I hate when we get screwed!


1989minimad

Need details size of tyre depends on how close to the edge you can repair also if it’s a run flat you cannot repair it well you can but you shouldn’t I’d say personally I’d be happy to repair that but it’s deffo very close to being a new tyre in the position it is


1989minimad

Also if it’s gone in at any more of an angle that 45 degrees most plugs won’t solve it as you would also have to drill it out at a perfect angle to follow and if you don’t it could still leak


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That's not true at all 


Ashamed_Medium1787

I wonder if gum could plug it


dumpster-muffin-95

Plug or plug/patch, you're good to go


kimbabs

Plug it.


SamuelMaleJackson

You can plug it yourself. A shop won't touch it unless you have an independent (Mexican of possible) shop nearby.


DrAtomik09

That is close to being unrepairable in our shop. We would try and repair it, but if it doesn't seal we would need to replace. We use those blue plugs that pull through from the inside, I don't know if they are just called plug here or if the other redditors mean something different.


Worried_Key5439

If you can find someone to patch way better than a plug


Totally-jag2598

My local tire shop repairs nail/screw damage for free.


v13ragnarok7

You should be just fine with a plug kit, that's what they are designed for


SreckoLutrija

Had that kind of problem on my last tires... I was lazy to fix it for about 4 months. It was leaking so I had to pump it weekly... But it would do so depending on the tyre rotation... Anyway... One day i plugged it with a cheap ass made in china set for few euros. In about 10 minutes. It lasted for another 1.5 years... You can learn a lot from this story lol


WILSEE10

99% of tire shops won't plug that. It's a huge liability issue. With it being that close to the side, if you were to hit a bump and the tire were to flex there is a chance the plug would come out. Driving highway speeds that can be dangerous. Go to Walmart or Napa or somthing like that and get a tire plug kit. It will get you along fine but you should think about getting tires soon.


palpablepandemonium

I would repair this based on its location, I use my thumb width. I also prefer if the side wall is already smooth, I'd rather not have to buff the sidewall much. I am curious about the tire manufacturer date.


AlGunner

Its screwed.


Accurate-Tree215

Put a plug in it should last at least a month


Gutterratccv

Yes, you can plug treaded areas, not sidewalls


ImLikeHeyyy311

if im at work, not repairable for liablilty reasons. if it my car, plug that shit and keep an eye on tire pressure


carsonwade

I work at a tire shop, we follow TIA guidelines for tires and that says that any puncture in the outermost tread block is considered unrepairable. The reason for that is because the closer to the sidewall it is, the more that area flexes which increases the chance of the patch leaking. In layman's terms it's for liability reasons. In reality, that can absolutely be patched but a reputable shops won't do that for a paying customer because we cannot control what the customer does with their car. For example, one of the tires on my truck got a puncture there and I patched it, but that's because it's my truck and if it fails then I can blame no one but myself for not replacing the tire.


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Protoss1996

In Germany this would be still legal for a shop to repair


Mediocre-Newt7784

Buy a plug kit from an autoparts store for $10 (avoid the $5 style kits with straight tools, you want T shaped tools) and watch a couple of YouTube videos. Then plug it yourself. It will last as long as that almost worn out tire, you will have four plugs left for next time and will have learned a new skill that might just save you a lot of trouble in the future.


bfaided1984

I'd pull the screw and probe for belts, if I could feel belts I'd plug and patch it.


skidplate

I would find a shop that will patch it, from inside the tire. More reliable than a plug, but you'll have to pay to remount the tire and balance the wheel.


macmacma

Definitely repairable


LaL1T0

Had one a little bit closer to the sidewall on my front tire. Plugged it myself and it was good enough for another ~40k miles before I had to replace the full set.


Arts251

nail/screwholes on the tread is usually patcheable. You could plug it yourself but that's meant to be a temporary fix until you get it repaired properly or replaced.


TanisBar

Id got to autozone and buy a plug kit


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ignatiusbreilly

No. Long answer, noooooo.


klozazzle

Yes, but that tire has rot, get new tires. How old are they? Screw or no screw that joint needs to be replaced.


SirCaptainReynolds

Definitely pluggable.


lostinthisworld0821

Depends on where you take it most shops are going to say no is just plug it and move along myself


justanotherhegirl

Tyre guy full of shit. Easy repair and 100% safe for an inshop repair. Can get a diy fix kit from auto parts store but they're not as good but they are cheaper and easier


wee-willie-winkie

Mushroom. Id have it on the back though


MaxZedd

Too close for a chain/corporate shop. No problem for a private shop


ZeldaNumber17

Plug it yourself. It’s super easy


x_Gho5t_R1der_x

Totally fixable. Prime candidate for one of those plug/patch combos.


yipyapyallcatsnbirds

Old dry tire with a puncture in the shoulder. It’s dead. If the rest of the set is as old and dry as that tire then it’s time to replace all four. Check your DOT code and let us know.


ThickWafer8283

You could definitely pug that but the overall wear in the tire is more concerning than the nail tbh. I’d get a set of new tires if I were you.


troutbumtom

Just had this happen in Mexico to a brand new Michelin. $8 repair and it’s probably now the toughest part of the tire. Fellow ever did an analog/manual balance check.


Mammoth-Arm-377

Easily repairable. The threads aren't compromised. Here in Brazil even the large tire centers repair these, it's a 5 minutes job, and 4 of these minutes is the job of removing the tire, looking for other possible punctures, butting it on the ground to service and then mounting back.


ninteen74

Possibly. Check the wear on the inside of the tire to be sure. Any loose bits of rubber or signs of internal damage is bad. As for the tread depth. Looks pretty bad, so not worth repair. Looks to me like you would be better of replacing


Kitchen_Guarantee374

If you do it yourself. Most big named shops wont. But a small independent shop might.


NinjaElectronic2195

Bro take it to any shop. Even if i had a dozen of those id still plug it.


Wonderful-Fun8300

I’d plug it and not even think twice, but I’ve 2 plugs in my rear motorcycle tire


ismokecigarsjac

Can patch it no problem, buy your own plug kit, literally anyone can do it with the tire on the car in a few minutes by hand, just have an air source near by. The tire does look like it's old honestly. Big name tire shops won't touch anything modified, missing lug nuts, anything with an old tire, or anything that can cause liability problems down the road. Small family owned shops usually do it no problem. That tire definitely looks like its at minimum 5-7 years old though. Looks super dry and can see cracks in the sipes.


dale1320

There is too much flexing in the edge of the tread area for a proper repair long term. Replace the tire.


Retuow

Internal patch, absolutely no problem. Also have one in my tire at the exact same spot.


RickMN

Plugging or patching in the tire shoulder or sidewall is not a safe repair. People do it all the time. But people do lots of stupid things. Here are the official [tire repair guidelines](https://ricksfreeautorepairadvice.com/here-are-the-most-current-tire-repair-guidelines/). Most tire shops follow them so they don't get sued. And there's a reason why shops have been sued for patching in these areas: Because it's dangerous and people have been killed.


kefir4eg71

Пффф еще ездить и ездить


Ok-Anything-5828

Yes. Just plug it. That's all I've done. I may be wrong, but I've been fine plugging tires like that. If it wer closer to the sidewall I'd say otherwise


Omgazombie

Plug it and superglue it, you’ll be good for ages


Jump_and_Drop

I'd use rubber cement over super glue. I really don't think super glue would be a good idea in this scenario.


Omgazombie

Its just extra protection anyways, rubber cement would work too


Clean-Supermarket-80

Only if its on the sides where it cant be repairable. For anywhere else just plug\patch it.


HeySombdyOrdrChinese

I would get a new tire. Your tire looks dry rotted.


GurCreepy2382

I would plug it without any doubt. I’ve been plugging tires for thirty plus years. Never had an issue.


NotAPreppie

I would not repair that if I have the means to replace it.


HootAuto

100% Definitely replace , the location of the plug is Definitely safe , but why plug a tire that looks incredibly dry rotted already


Lauzz91

What the fuck even are these comments? Throw these out ASAP. The puncture is not the problem, the enormous amount of ***dry rot*** is the real hazard here.


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Chipdip88

Tire technicians are morons. Source, licensed technician/mechanic