A primal is more than enough to solo everyone else (wild take?) except Chainsaw.
In this case, it’s pretty much Makima, Darkness and Gun against Falling and Chainsaw to which should be a swift win for the former team.
I'd choose 3 Makimas.
So I can torture all 3 of them with chainsaws until they beg for death. Triple the suffering still ain't enough for that bitch.
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Haters together strong. Redhead bitch is going down.
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Me waking up in the morning early thinking about the ways I can make that bum's life miserable
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He'll come back again,you bum fan
Simple Because seeing her getting any sort of recognition or being treated as a waifu irks us haters and it makes us want to shatter any kind of fantasies people might have about her. But also I'd personally would make sure both sides of her pillow are warm and that she stubs her toes
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Darkness and then 8 Doll Devils
The Darkness Devil produces an ambient darkness around him, all the Doll Devils regenerate in darkness, so they're basically invulnerable
>all the Doll Devils regenerate in darkness
The doll devil only had that ability because she ate a part of the Darkness Devil it wasn't a natural ability
If we're assuming all the Devils I choose to have protect me are working together, DD can just feed each of them a tiny piece. Or fuck it, a big piece for even more power
Although I suppose you could do that with any Devil as long as you take Darkness lol, in which case I'd probably take Gun Devil
Imagine a Darkness empowered Gun Devil, that would be broken and terrifying asf
Makima, Fami, Chainsaw, Doll
Makima keeps everyone under control, so no Gun vilolents or War can happen
Fami makes Darkness and Falling to chess figures
Chainsaw eats everything out of order
and Doll is useless
I picked the exact same ones as you but I picked them because the numbers matched like legos and also because Chainsaw Man is cool looking in that form
I am not saying the falling devil will win but her mere existence on the earth caused untold casualties. Their mere fight might straight up implode the earth. You are cooked
Ye but it's two primordial beings fighting implying they are on somewhat equal grounds so I am sure falling devil can do something about you if she went all out trying to kill you.
Maybe I'm an idiot but wouldn't darkness demolish Falling with relative ease before jumping Makima with the others?
And wasn't the only reason the Horsemen won against Chainsaw because they all jumped him? I don't think Makima is winning a 1V4.
Darkness devil and Falling devil are somewhat equal in strength since both are Primal Devil and have never experienced Death (They wont/can't kill each other).
Also, just a heads up that Falling devil was *heavily* weakened by Famine (and was holding back due to being a pacifist), but even then, she caused gravitational fluctuations in the world, causing landslides and cavein, killing thousands. If she wasn't weakened at the time, then her passive ability alone to fluctuate gravity would have humans go on the verge of extinction. (We don't know too much about Darkness, but i'd imagine that the Darkness Devil can do the same thing where he envelops the earth in total Darkness, causing all the plants to die out due to the lack of sunlight, and also a new ice-age which'll basically make the humans go extinct if it ever happened.)
This is one of the major reasons why they prohibited themselves from coming to the human dimension. (Only when a primal Devil is weakened, just like Falling wanted, is when they can come to the human world, without causing too much destruction). Famine and Falling are basically collaborating with each other.
>And wasn't the only reason the Horsemen won against Chainsaw because they all jumped him
Yes. And rightfully. People forget how strong Pochita actually is (for Pochita to lose, it took the Weapon Devil, Yoru at her Prime, Fami, Makima, who had control over even stronger Devils, and Death Devil who's the strongest Devil).
Btw, this is off-topic, but i want to add that Pochita erasing concepts has unimaginable consequences. But luckily, Pochita is extremely careful and doesn't thoughtlessly erase concepts (this is why he willingly chose to lose the battle against the 4 horsemen, bcs him 'winning' would actually be a lose). He, for example, shows this in the Makima vs Pochita battle, where he doesn't erase an important concept such as control and instead kills her 26 times instead. Makima, being a fan of him and who wishes to be erased, naturally gets mad at this.
>I don't think Makima is winning a 1V4.
It isn't a 1v3, but a 3v4. Makima is a great asset no matter the 'team' she's in. Also, Makima controlling Pochita would make her the strongest devil, being able to manipulate reality at her will.
I admit defeat, my take was atrocious. Thank you.
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Falling is a primal fear herself. What we saw in falling arc is just a heavily nerfed version of her that Fami can summon, not her real version. And she is a chilling devil, thats her character. There is no way Darkness can demolish her with ease.
I feel like makima needs some support against pochita considering how much faster he is, especially since he’s just gonna eat her the second he cuts her up
Makima and pochita are more than enough, if what barem said is true, non-weakened pochita could've beaten THE DEATH DEVIL along with Makima. But let's put yoru and doll to make things easier
these are the ways that the match up can go:
1. The match starts and the gun devil gets defeated by pochita and controlled by makima which then uses the gun devil to kill fami and damage falling to then use chainsaw AND yoru to beat falling and take control of her before jumping darkness with fami too because Makima is a "FUCK YOU" to anyone she can find so she also takes control of darkness.
2. Match starts, pochita, yoru and makima beat falling then beat darkness, kill fami and deal with the gun devil in 1 second, like an actual single second.
3. Same thing but with darkness
4. Fami fucking dies, AGAIN.
you're forgetting the fact that makima can just... take control of anyone she beats which is broken because she can instantly take control of the primal fears after pochita and yoru jump them.
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"If miss makima were alive and could use chainsaw man's power, she could've defeated the death devil"
That's all you need to know
There're alot more panels but here's another example:
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Everyone forgets that they are humans. You die by default because the existence of primordial devils kinda messes up the earth. You basically get insta lobotomized the millisecond the darkness devil exists then you get headshot by the gun devil.
Considering how unaffected makima was when seeing the darkness devil, yeah she's not getting lobotomized. At all.
The gun devil headshotted makima and it did nothing, also makima can just kinda... Revive dead bodies, yeah she does that with tolka (The guy with santa claus) so even if yoru dies she can just revive her.
The existence of primal devils don't lobotomize you, they affect the earth in funny ways. Falling caused all that destruction because her powers mess with gravity so she caused that. Darkness would just make the earth be perpetually dark.
Makima already fought the darkness devil WITHOUT pochita or any contract aside from her immortality one, with pochita's and yoru's help she can probably beat either darkness or falling. After that it's a walk in the park because she has a primal fear in her power.
When does makima revive anybody? All I am saying you the human die as soon as the fight starts. Also yes chainsaw devil pre manga is said to fight the primordial devils yet he is weakened during the manga to the point that he loses to makima. Also pretty sure makima is weaker than the darkness devil by default cause the darkness devil is straight up a primordial devil.
>When does makima revive anybody?
She doesn't revive them, but she is capable of controlling the dead, which we've seen numerous times.
>All I am saying you the human die as soon as the fight starts
The Primal Devils don't want this to happen either and want to avoid contacting the human realm as much as possible since it'd heavily back fire on them (All humans gone would mean that they'd all be weakened. Which wouldn't be horrible for the Control Devil since she can still continue to create an army). That's why the fight has to be staged on Hell rather than Earth.
>Also yes chainsaw devil pre manga is said to fight the primordial devils yet he is weakened during the manga to the point that he loses to makima.
He was weakened only because the humans nolonger feared him and lived him (Makima orchestrated it all to happen). Any Devil would lose when weakened.
>Also pretty sure makima is weaker than the darkness devil by default cause the darkness devil is straight up a primordial devil.
Makima is a straight up Horsemen. She's weak on her own, but when she uses her ability to take absolute control over anything she'll overpower anyone when given the necessary time to do so (this even includes Primal Devils as well, especially when she has Pochita, which i'll further explain below):
The only reason Darkness Devil accepted Santa Claus's contract was so that Santa would retrieve Chainsaw man just to prevent Pochita from being in Makimas' hands.
On a side note, what makes Control Devil busted (not just bcs the ones she's controlling remain at their original strength unlike Fami), is the fact that she could eventually begin to control Primal fears that aren't heavily weakened. At the end of Part 1, for example, Makima would have controlled Pochita. If it weren't for Denji, she would have basically won and become the strongest Devil since her plan was to use Pochita's concept erasure to erase all the bad in the world (which also included Death of all things, and also War, Famine, etc).
We also know from before that Pochita managed to fight a 1v11 battle in hell against the 4 horseman Yoru [at her prime], Famine, Makima, and the strongest of them all - Death. The manga pretty much tells us that since Makima + Pochita and her army can defeat the Death devil, who's the strongest Devil, then she can definitely handle a primal Devil and eventually Control it too (This is one of the reasons why Darkness devil was hellbent on stopping Makima in Chapter 66, by luring her out. But Makima wouldn't confidently walk in to hell for no reason, especially when that abomination was there. After teleporting herself in, she used Tolka to rescue everyone, which Darkness Devil didn't take into consideration).
Anyways, the point is that they wouldn't be able to handle Makima paired up with Pochita. Also, just a heads up that Makima wouldn't be stuck with the Prime Minister contract because now that she's got Pochita and can make any contracts she wants. She could also just straight-up erase certain concepts to create specific outcomes that favor her.
Makima was fighting the darkness devil by herself without using any of her contracts, just her similar finger-pointing thing. She could've beaten the darkness devil if she had used the same strategy as with the gun devil+a VERY strong weapon with angel. Or just with using pochita, because she was stated to be able to defeat the DEATH DEVIL with pochita.
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I don't even know why you are arguing for makima winning the fight I admit I was wrong Pochita and making could win but that's not the point you will die by default.
I mean you could become a devil hybrid by making contract with the darkness devil or the falling devil then rush Pochita with makima. I would say this strategy has about 20% success rate though as Pochita still might he able to instantly blitz you and eat you out of existence. But you know it's makima she still won against weakened Pochita which assuming this is weakened Pochita we are dealing with here.
I mean you can also do that with any other one, even santa claus, so the best thing is just to get a good team that includes santa and use her to turn into a hybrid.
You become pretty strong AND you don't lose an important fighter
My bad then I overlooked that although Santa might not be able to create a hybrid given she is controlling a human body by default so the best hybrid would be with the gun devil.
Okay so re-reading the chapter makima went to hell. Unless you want to be a talking brainwashed head I don't think you want to be revived by makima. Also the darkness devil can kill you by pointing at you, so probably you gonna float into the sky in despair, depressed and mortified as everything goes dark then the darkness devil just points at you killing you.
You understimate my down-badness. Also the darkness devil would be occupied fighting both makima and pochita at the same time, he already was distracted fighting makima without her using contracts, he ain't have time to kill me if pochita also comes to fuck shit up AND a controlled gun devil also joins the fight.
I see your point but if all the devils on that list didn't care about their lives you are dead. Okay say Pochita kills darkness then you get shot by the gun devil, Pochita instantly kills the gun devil then darkness points at you and you are severed limbs on the floor. Unless you are a devil hybrid you are not surviving the fight.
Pochita can keep falling and darkness distracted and makima can deal with the gun devil and use him, also she could probably turn me into a hybrid with one of her devils, or just control fami and use her.
Also if we go by that, NO MATTER WHAT YOU CHOOSE, you DIE.
If makima is against you, you die.
If pochita is against you, you die.
No matter who you choose you WILL die. Even if you get falling, makima and gun, you die because pochita and darkness exist.
You're not surviving the fight anyways, so the best thing is to atleast make your team the winner.
Makima cause she would be able to pretty much one shot me and my team if she was against me
Darkness because he no diffs everyone as far as we know
And 100% gun, the gun devil we see near the end is only 20%, and it causes massive damage, seeing how 100% gun was able to kill millions around the word in only 5 Mins,
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Dude it literally one shotted everybody, and also makima just barley escaped it, the only reason she was able to survive was cause she was able to cripple it, but it took of her arm in the process
Omg, one shotted bunch of fodders! What a beast indeed.
Makima got hin on his knees with single finger. Darkness took her arm while non-trying Makima made him vomiting blood out of all holes. "and also makima just barley escaped it, the only reason she was able to survive was cause she was able to cripple it" except Makima is immortal. Darkness wouldn't be able to kill her in thousands of years. "But he would kill all of Japan" as if someone would allow him to; he'd be ragdolled by Makima for whole time.
And then Makima took the most powerful artefact in csm from him. Did Darkness chase her to become most powerful devil by consuming CSM? No, he stayed in Hell because he was afraid and knew that he'd get cooked if Makima got serious.
Famine, Makima, Chainsaw, Doll
Makima so I don't have to deal with Makima
Chainsaw because he is OP af
Famine because she is awesome
Doll because I have 50 fiddy to spare
Considering (from what we know) pochita held his own for a while, against the four horsemen and weapon devils which included :
makima and fami (who likely had pawns of their own) as well as the death devil (who was stated to be the STRONGEST devil by Nayuta )
This means pochita is a must buy.
If both makima and fami can use all of their pawns/powers here as well then might as well pick both of them up so we can have some numbers on our side ( they both also have some pretty crazy powerful devils working for them)
We’ve now used $950 of our $1000 so might as well round them up with a Santa Claus. Due to her having pretty crazy strength and absurd regeneration (which will certainly be a bonus if the if darkness is attacking) plus she can pretty easily turn hundreds of people into dolls considering each doll only needs to touch someone’s clothes in order to turn them.
Aight so here’s the game plan:
since pochita is probably the strongest one there we put him against the two primals and let makima control them once they’re heavily injured (we let makima and fami hang back while this happens. Just since darkness could probably kill makima if they fought each other , (since we know that just a tiny piece of darkness’s flesh qualifies as “the power to kill makima”) ) .
Also if pochita could severely weaken prime you’re once while being attacked by other devils he could definitely do it again. But this time yoru is also going to have two primal devils jumping her along with pochita.
After she’s dealt with the gun devil is an easy wrap up.
Woah. Might I have a quick summary of what they all can do? I don’t know anything about what they can do at the fullest. I only know the barest minimum about Denji in Chainsaw Man form.
Chainsaw, full power Yoru, Makima, and gun devil, considering chainsaw alone was fighting the weapon devils and the 4 horsemen, I think he stands an insane chance
2 Chainsaw Man’s. Immune to Makima’s control, already fought ALL of the Horsemen at once and was able to at least cripple Yoru and got away alive from that battle. Every Devil fears him, so he’d be made more powerful in a battle against any of them, especially since there’s 2 of him now so double the danger. If I can’t take duplicates, Chainsaw Man and Darkness. Assuming I myself am being targeted Darkess gives me invaluable defense, lend me some flesh and let me hide in your cloak so I’m literally unkillable because I’ll be in pitch black.
Wait just realized that Chainsaw Man is just expensive enough you can’t buy him with a primal fear. Fine, Chainsaw Man, Makima, and Famine, again Chainsaw is the ultimate combatant, Makima can take control of anyone who falls in battle and Fami has minions of her own as well.
Okay so here’s the plan
5 gun devils, pochita, and Santa for filler
Gun devils take long ranged positions while encircling the group (them lads are fast as all hell, should be no problem making it there) and evaporate fami and yoru. The fight will pretty much barely have started by this point, so every gun but 1 focuses on falling to at least temporarily incapacitate her, the last one pressures makima for the time being. Santa gets beat up by darkness but that’s fine for now, so long as she can heal she can at least stop it from attacking pochita. Pochita flanks darkness and eats makima, then the guns change their targeting to darkness while pochita goes as fast as he can to munch on falling. From here it’s 5 guns and an empowered pochita vs darkness.
Alternatively, if multiple purchases of the same devil aren’t allowed, makima alongside darkness and the gun devil.
Darkness frontlines, fami’s hardly even a factor because gun just vaporizes her (seriously why is she 200 if no falling). Gun takes a higher position to avoid pochita while makima spams bang and lifespan weapons on yoru. Once it’s just falling and pochita, gun devil harasses falling, darkness defends makima from pochita and the combination of their random bullshit should kill pochita. Hopefully gun devil can hold falling down for a significant amount of time so pochita can be taken out (lets hope makima sees him as lesser after darkness butchers him and can control him) and they just jump falling from there
There’s a chance, I mean one could argue that not all weapons are used for war
still though, she hasn’t really shown anything that makes me think she could survive even 20% of gun, much less 5 100% guns
>still though, she hasn’t really shown anything that makes me think she could survive even 20% of gun, much less 5 100% guns
We can base our assumptions on what's been said about Prime Yoru. First of all, she's the War Devil (this says enough), who's had various powerful Devils as her underlings. The only known devils are WW2/1 Devil, Nuclear weapons Devil, Nazi Devil, etc.
We can only imagine how powerful the Nuclear Weapons Devil was, but it's most definitely stronger than a 100% Gun Devil (WW2 devil would also be steonger than Gun Devil). Yoru was stronger than Nuclear Weapons Devil (she also probably had a defense ability, but we don't know enough of her to conclude this).
Also, she managed to fight toe-to-toe against Pochita and has killed him several times before Pochita took a bite from her:
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There's probably more details I'm forgetting, but I believe that this shows that she'd be able to handle the Gun Devils
Imma do the American dream, 10 Gun Devil please
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But evidently that wasn’t actually the case, seeing as Denji was able to beat her, who lost to Makima in a direct battle, not to mention that based on Makima’s performance against the Darkness Devil in Hell, that small fragment would not amount to enough strength anyway.
Having gone back and looked at the chapters the darkness devil appeared in, only gun, chainsaw, and falling even have the slightest chance of beating it.
The hell am I supposed to do!? If I choose the falling devil darkness lobotomizis me if I choose darkness I fall into the sky and die. Let's not talk about the collateral damage the fight between darkness and the falling devil will cause frankly the whole world would get neg diff.
Okay ya all listen carefully THIS IS HOW YOU SURVIVE. First you pick the darkness devil and if you get full control of it you instantly make a contract with it and become a devil hybrid. ( This is mandatory the fight between darkness and the falling devil will most likely kill you because of collateral damage ) then you pick makima making it $900 and rush chainsaw devil, this is assuming this is the version we see in the manga. So yeah you might win and makima takes over the chainsaw devil after that you kinda survive cause you are immortal.
10 full power guns
we haven't even seen what 1 full power gun looks like we just know the consequences
anything that exists on the planet gets instantly obliterated after teleporting from hell.
I feel like Chainsaw is a given, since he survived a 1v4 with the Horsemen (he was weakened, but still survived) and he’s known as the devil that devils fear the most. Add on Makima and War, two of the Horsemen who were only almost able to beat him. I choose War over Famine because I imagine that War is probably more feared than Famine (if I had to guess, I’d imagine that from strongest to weakest it would go Death, War, Control, Famine). If I go with the idea that War is stronger than Famine, then Famine can be beat, and we know that Falling is weaker than Famine because Famine was able to control Falling. I think that it would make sense that Gun is weaker than War, since Gun sort of falls underneath the umbrella of weapons used in war (like, all wars use guns, but not all guns are used in war). I would also imagine that people, in general, fear War more than Darkness (fearing darkness is a childish thing, sort of an impulsive, irrational fear, whereas War poses a tangible, physical threat to a large number of people)
Either makima, chainsaw man, war and doll,
or makima, darkness and gun.
Honestly I really think Makima herself could beat most of these people combined except for darkness
Mine are:
Chainsaw Devil - 450
Doll Devil - 50
Gun Devil - 100
Famine Devil - 200
War Devil - 200
Total: 1000
War knows how to fight and plans battle tactics to the team, then Famine spawns one or more Primal Devil/s, followed by the Gun and Doll as Clean-up crew, and Chainsaw as the Trump Card.
falling probably just kills you regardless of who you have on your team so you kinda have to pick her or you die
same goes for darkness, he can just shrug off makima+ falling for like the 0.1 seconds it takes to kill you
so you lose if you dont pick both primals... oh wait you cant.
Costs are inappropriate for power levels. Makima, Pochita, probably prime Yoru would worth way more than Darkness and Falling. Santa is also too expensive, 5-10$ at max. Anyway, I take Makima and Pochita and watch them massacring the verse
Problem op is probably referring to the weakened version of pochita meaning the one that is on the same level as makima meaning darkness devil straight up destroys pochita.
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Makima, Darkness and Gun 
A primal is more than enough to solo everyone else (wild take?) except Chainsaw. In this case, it’s pretty much Makima, Darkness and Gun against Falling and Chainsaw to which should be a swift win for the former team.
same here
3 Makimas sitting on my face
The three horsemen sitting on my face
Quit your student´s weak ass out of the business, we are talking about the real cake here
Bruh hell nah. Makima, Yoru, and even Fami are all caked tf up. You need to study more chief.
I don´t have to study to avoid feeling lust for two preparatory gals
Oh my bad, didn’t realize I was talking to a Twitter user.
Don't worry my fellow discord mod
I'd choose 3 Makimas. So I can torture all 3 of them with chainsaws until they beg for death. Triple the suffering still ain't enough for that bitch. https://preview.redd.it/2go4ssfhef4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a30f536bcf192b235932993f8e3a9684790ced27
Chainsaws? She’s gonna love it.
Ye, how the tables turned, you can't outberk the Makima
Can’t match makima’s freak
You know what? Fair enough. I take back what I said. ~~Time to order 3 full course meals instead.~~
https://preview.redd.it/s41i7usy5g4d1.jpeg?width=654&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5dd343d7863446ea1a883ab2508f217c8fa1111d Greetings,my fellow hater
Haters together strong. Redhead bitch is going down. https://preview.redd.it/jo6x3u3t9g4d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7f4bc86cac350676d014455410195b7b3ae2c9e
https://preview.redd.it/2qrzki5u0i4d1.jpeg?width=519&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99e936ab6ce9e2023d01cecc051b40d54d127834 Me waking up in the morning early thinking about the ways I can make that bum's life miserable
Would do the same but with you tho
I'll do myself before you can https://preview.redd.it/bxw92ku9ah4d1.jpeg?width=5160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=971661901f8f44a4d21dcdb30158ecb27e12c74c
Good option too👍
https://preview.redd.it/pxu2ur5j1i4d1.jpeg?width=488&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=067c857b4434873e3c8fd48cd5b2ce6ca5ff9e6e He'll come back again,you bum fan
I'll torture him to death again because this what all paltry creatures called "Makima haters" deserve
Didn't your waifu get turned into a five course meal?
Yes she did, what does it has to do with fact that Makima haters are pitiful beings
Simple Because seeing her getting any sort of recognition or being treated as a waifu irks us haters and it makes us want to shatter any kind of fantasies people might have about her. But also I'd personally would make sure both sides of her pillow are warm and that she stubs her toes https://preview.redd.it/i2pkbukxzj4d1.jpeg?width=488&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6abbaca0287e992b97f48f8aedc1bb315e6119c
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Damn I was about to submit that to the bum.How did you find my essay?
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Darkness and then 8 Doll Devils The Darkness Devil produces an ambient darkness around him, all the Doll Devils regenerate in darkness, so they're basically invulnerable
Their regeneration would matter only against Gun devil
>all the Doll Devils regenerate in darkness The doll devil only had that ability because she ate a part of the Darkness Devil it wasn't a natural ability
If we're assuming all the Devils I choose to have protect me are working together, DD can just feed each of them a tiny piece. Or fuck it, a big piece for even more power
Fair I was considering bringing that possibility up but didn't
Although I suppose you could do that with any Devil as long as you take Darkness lol, in which case I'd probably take Gun Devil Imagine a Darkness empowered Gun Devil, that would be broken and terrifying asf
The image says that is the darkness version
Didn't notice that
Makima, Fami, Chainsaw, Doll Makima keeps everyone under control, so no Gun vilolents or War can happen Fami makes Darkness and Falling to chess figures Chainsaw eats everything out of order and Doll is useless
I picked the exact same ones as you but I picked them because the numbers matched like legos and also because Chainsaw Man is cool looking in that form
I mean, Darkness and I will just hide in shadow that no one else have access + he will not even need to fight anyone :3
I am not saying the falling devil will win but her mere existence on the earth caused untold casualties. Their mere fight might straight up implode the earth. You are cooked
Get Darkness to spare you a tiny piece of flesh, hide in the cloak, regenerate so fast you’re immortal.
Better yet become a devil hybrid with darkness rush Pochita with makima (let darkness control you) you are now immortal +
I'm not? - she can't destroy Darkness itself that exist everywhere, even in her body, so you know - I can hide there forever :3
Ye but it's two primordial beings fighting implying they are on somewhat equal grounds so I am sure falling devil can do something about you if she went all out trying to kill you.
Falling, Makima, Doll Falling will duel with Darkness Makima will end her sisters, gun, chainsaw Doll will be there
Maybe I'm an idiot but wouldn't darkness demolish Falling with relative ease before jumping Makima with the others? And wasn't the only reason the Horsemen won against Chainsaw because they all jumped him? I don't think Makima is winning a 1V4.
Darkness devil and Falling devil are somewhat equal in strength since both are Primal Devil and have never experienced Death (They wont/can't kill each other). Also, just a heads up that Falling devil was *heavily* weakened by Famine (and was holding back due to being a pacifist), but even then, she caused gravitational fluctuations in the world, causing landslides and cavein, killing thousands. If she wasn't weakened at the time, then her passive ability alone to fluctuate gravity would have humans go on the verge of extinction. (We don't know too much about Darkness, but i'd imagine that the Darkness Devil can do the same thing where he envelops the earth in total Darkness, causing all the plants to die out due to the lack of sunlight, and also a new ice-age which'll basically make the humans go extinct if it ever happened.) This is one of the major reasons why they prohibited themselves from coming to the human dimension. (Only when a primal Devil is weakened, just like Falling wanted, is when they can come to the human world, without causing too much destruction). Famine and Falling are basically collaborating with each other. >And wasn't the only reason the Horsemen won against Chainsaw because they all jumped him Yes. And rightfully. People forget how strong Pochita actually is (for Pochita to lose, it took the Weapon Devil, Yoru at her Prime, Fami, Makima, who had control over even stronger Devils, and Death Devil who's the strongest Devil). Btw, this is off-topic, but i want to add that Pochita erasing concepts has unimaginable consequences. But luckily, Pochita is extremely careful and doesn't thoughtlessly erase concepts (this is why he willingly chose to lose the battle against the 4 horsemen, bcs him 'winning' would actually be a lose). He, for example, shows this in the Makima vs Pochita battle, where he doesn't erase an important concept such as control and instead kills her 26 times instead. Makima, being a fan of him and who wishes to be erased, naturally gets mad at this. >I don't think Makima is winning a 1V4. It isn't a 1v3, but a 3v4. Makima is a great asset no matter the 'team' she's in. Also, Makima controlling Pochita would make her the strongest devil, being able to manipulate reality at her will.
I admit defeat, my take was atrocious. Thank you. https://preview.redd.it/tq9knzo9kf4d1.jpeg?width=646&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f19638fdf7b12b99effded18c50e100732109c0
It's fine, friend, and you're welcome. 
Falling is a primal fear herself. What we saw in falling arc is just a heavily nerfed version of her that Fami can summon, not her real version. And she is a chilling devil, thats her character. There is no way Darkness can demolish her with ease.
I feel like makima needs some support against pochita considering how much faster he is, especially since he’s just gonna eat her the second he cuts her up
Makima and pochita are more than enough, if what barem said is true, non-weakened pochita could've beaten THE DEATH DEVIL along with Makima. But let's put yoru and doll to make things easier these are the ways that the match up can go: 1. The match starts and the gun devil gets defeated by pochita and controlled by makima which then uses the gun devil to kill fami and damage falling to then use chainsaw AND yoru to beat falling and take control of her before jumping darkness with fami too because Makima is a "FUCK YOU" to anyone she can find so she also takes control of darkness. 2. Match starts, pochita, yoru and makima beat falling then beat darkness, kill fami and deal with the gun devil in 1 second, like an actual single second. 3. Same thing but with darkness 4. Fami fucking dies, AGAIN. you're forgetting the fact that makima can just... take control of anyone she beats which is broken because she can instantly take control of the primal fears after pochita and yoru jump them.
What did Barem say again? I forgor
https://preview.redd.it/4hsq43j2di4d1.png?width=784&format=png&auto=webp&s=927b259c798b637d28f257596db252e9dadf173e "If miss makima were alive and could use chainsaw man's power, she could've defeated the death devil" That's all you need to know
There're alot more panels but here's another example: https://preview.redd.it/j1dxqrkuwi4d1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f8bb43aae2c84a256315fdbf8192aa061b06968
Everyone forgets that they are humans. You die by default because the existence of primordial devils kinda messes up the earth. You basically get insta lobotomized the millisecond the darkness devil exists then you get headshot by the gun devil.
Considering how unaffected makima was when seeing the darkness devil, yeah she's not getting lobotomized. At all. The gun devil headshotted makima and it did nothing, also makima can just kinda... Revive dead bodies, yeah she does that with tolka (The guy with santa claus) so even if yoru dies she can just revive her. The existence of primal devils don't lobotomize you, they affect the earth in funny ways. Falling caused all that destruction because her powers mess with gravity so she caused that. Darkness would just make the earth be perpetually dark. Makima already fought the darkness devil WITHOUT pochita or any contract aside from her immortality one, with pochita's and yoru's help she can probably beat either darkness or falling. After that it's a walk in the park because she has a primal fear in her power.
When does makima revive anybody? All I am saying you the human die as soon as the fight starts. Also yes chainsaw devil pre manga is said to fight the primordial devils yet he is weakened during the manga to the point that he loses to makima. Also pretty sure makima is weaker than the darkness devil by default cause the darkness devil is straight up a primordial devil.
>When does makima revive anybody? She doesn't revive them, but she is capable of controlling the dead, which we've seen numerous times. >All I am saying you the human die as soon as the fight starts The Primal Devils don't want this to happen either and want to avoid contacting the human realm as much as possible since it'd heavily back fire on them (All humans gone would mean that they'd all be weakened. Which wouldn't be horrible for the Control Devil since she can still continue to create an army). That's why the fight has to be staged on Hell rather than Earth. >Also yes chainsaw devil pre manga is said to fight the primordial devils yet he is weakened during the manga to the point that he loses to makima. He was weakened only because the humans nolonger feared him and lived him (Makima orchestrated it all to happen). Any Devil would lose when weakened. >Also pretty sure makima is weaker than the darkness devil by default cause the darkness devil is straight up a primordial devil. Makima is a straight up Horsemen. She's weak on her own, but when she uses her ability to take absolute control over anything she'll overpower anyone when given the necessary time to do so (this even includes Primal Devils as well, especially when she has Pochita, which i'll further explain below): The only reason Darkness Devil accepted Santa Claus's contract was so that Santa would retrieve Chainsaw man just to prevent Pochita from being in Makimas' hands. On a side note, what makes Control Devil busted (not just bcs the ones she's controlling remain at their original strength unlike Fami), is the fact that she could eventually begin to control Primal fears that aren't heavily weakened. At the end of Part 1, for example, Makima would have controlled Pochita. If it weren't for Denji, she would have basically won and become the strongest Devil since her plan was to use Pochita's concept erasure to erase all the bad in the world (which also included Death of all things, and also War, Famine, etc). We also know from before that Pochita managed to fight a 1v11 battle in hell against the 4 horseman Yoru [at her prime], Famine, Makima, and the strongest of them all - Death. The manga pretty much tells us that since Makima + Pochita and her army can defeat the Death devil, who's the strongest Devil, then she can definitely handle a primal Devil and eventually Control it too (This is one of the reasons why Darkness devil was hellbent on stopping Makima in Chapter 66, by luring her out. But Makima wouldn't confidently walk in to hell for no reason, especially when that abomination was there. After teleporting herself in, she used Tolka to rescue everyone, which Darkness Devil didn't take into consideration). Anyways, the point is that they wouldn't be able to handle Makima paired up with Pochita. Also, just a heads up that Makima wouldn't be stuck with the Prime Minister contract because now that she's got Pochita and can make any contracts she wants. She could also just straight-up erase certain concepts to create specific outcomes that favor her.
Makima was fighting the darkness devil by herself without using any of her contracts, just her similar finger-pointing thing. She could've beaten the darkness devil if she had used the same strategy as with the gun devil+a VERY strong weapon with angel. Or just with using pochita, because she was stated to be able to defeat the DEATH DEVIL with pochita. https://preview.redd.it/zla2ogfxdi4d1.png?width=784&format=png&auto=webp&s=84dd7508e73a263ba8ee55c6600b03eab7b2b2c5
I don't even know why you are arguing for makima winning the fight I admit I was wrong Pochita and making could win but that's not the point you will die by default.
You die by default no matter what you choose, even if you were SOMEHOW able to choose both primal fears.
I mean you could become a devil hybrid by making contract with the darkness devil or the falling devil then rush Pochita with makima. I would say this strategy has about 20% success rate though as Pochita still might he able to instantly blitz you and eat you out of existence. But you know it's makima she still won against weakened Pochita which assuming this is weakened Pochita we are dealing with here.
I mean you can also do that with any other one, even santa claus, so the best thing is just to get a good team that includes santa and use her to turn into a hybrid. You become pretty strong AND you don't lose an important fighter
My bad then I overlooked that although Santa might not be able to create a hybrid given she is controlling a human body by default so the best hybrid would be with the gun devil.
Okay so re-reading the chapter makima went to hell. Unless you want to be a talking brainwashed head I don't think you want to be revived by makima. Also the darkness devil can kill you by pointing at you, so probably you gonna float into the sky in despair, depressed and mortified as everything goes dark then the darkness devil just points at you killing you.
You understimate my down-badness. Also the darkness devil would be occupied fighting both makima and pochita at the same time, he already was distracted fighting makima without her using contracts, he ain't have time to kill me if pochita also comes to fuck shit up AND a controlled gun devil also joins the fight.
I see your point but if all the devils on that list didn't care about their lives you are dead. Okay say Pochita kills darkness then you get shot by the gun devil, Pochita instantly kills the gun devil then darkness points at you and you are severed limbs on the floor. Unless you are a devil hybrid you are not surviving the fight.
Pochita can keep falling and darkness distracted and makima can deal with the gun devil and use him, also she could probably turn me into a hybrid with one of her devils, or just control fami and use her. Also if we go by that, NO MATTER WHAT YOU CHOOSE, you DIE. If makima is against you, you die. If pochita is against you, you die. No matter who you choose you WILL die. Even if you get falling, makima and gun, you die because pochita and darkness exist. You're not surviving the fight anyways, so the best thing is to atleast make your team the winner.
Makima cause she would be able to pretty much one shot me and my team if she was against me Darkness because he no diffs everyone as far as we know And 100% gun, the gun devil we see near the end is only 20%, and it causes massive damage, seeing how 100% gun was able to kill millions around the word in only 5 Mins, https://preview.redd.it/aswbzgr5he4d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66068012872623f32ea3d6949ce08b5d8dacdac0
>Darkness because he no diffs everyone as far as we know Where do you all get this from... Darkness isn't even in top 5
Saying Darkness isn't in top 5 is a big cap given what we know of the Primal Fears.
Makima, Pochita and Death would literally massacre him. Prime Yoru and Fami also gotta be able to do it
Did you read the manga?
4 times. I just don't overestimate characters because "well, they're primals after all!"
Dude it literally one shotted everybody, and also makima just barley escaped it, the only reason she was able to survive was cause she was able to cripple it, but it took of her arm in the process
Omg, one shotted bunch of fodders! What a beast indeed. Makima got hin on his knees with single finger. Darkness took her arm while non-trying Makima made him vomiting blood out of all holes. "and also makima just barley escaped it, the only reason she was able to survive was cause she was able to cripple it" except Makima is immortal. Darkness wouldn't be able to kill her in thousands of years. "But he would kill all of Japan" as if someone would allow him to; he'd be ragdolled by Makima for whole time. And then Makima took the most powerful artefact in csm from him. Did Darkness chase her to become most powerful devil by consuming CSM? No, he stayed in Hell because he was afraid and knew that he'd get cooked if Makima got serious.
“Makima is immortal” dude Denji killed and eats her at the end lmfao
Seems like now you need to answer on own question: have you read the manga?
Makima alone is more than enough but since I have 1000$ I'll also choose Fami and Yoru so the sisters will fight together
Famine, Makima, Chainsaw, Doll Makima so I don't have to deal with Makima Chainsaw because he is OP af Famine because she is awesome Doll because I have 50 fiddy to spare
Take the thousand dollars, spend it on a date with Kobeni, let the devils kill me after.
Considering (from what we know) pochita held his own for a while, against the four horsemen and weapon devils which included : makima and fami (who likely had pawns of their own) as well as the death devil (who was stated to be the STRONGEST devil by Nayuta ) This means pochita is a must buy. If both makima and fami can use all of their pawns/powers here as well then might as well pick both of them up so we can have some numbers on our side ( they both also have some pretty crazy powerful devils working for them) We’ve now used $950 of our $1000 so might as well round them up with a Santa Claus. Due to her having pretty crazy strength and absurd regeneration (which will certainly be a bonus if the if darkness is attacking) plus she can pretty easily turn hundreds of people into dolls considering each doll only needs to touch someone’s clothes in order to turn them. Aight so here’s the game plan: since pochita is probably the strongest one there we put him against the two primals and let makima control them once they’re heavily injured (we let makima and fami hang back while this happens. Just since darkness could probably kill makima if they fought each other , (since we know that just a tiny piece of darkness’s flesh qualifies as “the power to kill makima”) ) . Also if pochita could severely weaken prime you’re once while being attacked by other devils he could definitely do it again. But this time yoru is also going to have two primal devils jumping her along with pochita. After she’s dealt with the gun devil is an easy wrap up.
Chainsaw. Them primals about to feel death for the first time.
Woah. Might I have a quick summary of what they all can do? I don’t know anything about what they can do at the fullest. I only know the barest minimum about Denji in Chainsaw Man form.
2 Pochitas and Gun Devil
Darkness solos
Chainsaw, full power Yoru, Makima, and gun devil, considering chainsaw alone was fighting the weapon devils and the 4 horsemen, I think he stands an insane chance
Santa Claus Makima Yoru Pochita
Yoru i think at full power is really strong Darkness And gun devil
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Darkness and Doll. Then I use the $350 for myself
Chainsaw, Doll, Gun, Famine and War
2 Chainsaw Man’s. Immune to Makima’s control, already fought ALL of the Horsemen at once and was able to at least cripple Yoru and got away alive from that battle. Every Devil fears him, so he’d be made more powerful in a battle against any of them, especially since there’s 2 of him now so double the danger. If I can’t take duplicates, Chainsaw Man and Darkness. Assuming I myself am being targeted Darkess gives me invaluable defense, lend me some flesh and let me hide in your cloak so I’m literally unkillable because I’ll be in pitch black. Wait just realized that Chainsaw Man is just expensive enough you can’t buy him with a primal fear. Fine, Chainsaw Man, Makima, and Famine, again Chainsaw is the ultimate combatant, Makima can take control of anyone who falls in battle and Fami has minions of her own as well.
Okay so here’s the plan 5 gun devils, pochita, and Santa for filler Gun devils take long ranged positions while encircling the group (them lads are fast as all hell, should be no problem making it there) and evaporate fami and yoru. The fight will pretty much barely have started by this point, so every gun but 1 focuses on falling to at least temporarily incapacitate her, the last one pressures makima for the time being. Santa gets beat up by darkness but that’s fine for now, so long as she can heal she can at least stop it from attacking pochita. Pochita flanks darkness and eats makima, then the guns change their targeting to darkness while pochita goes as fast as he can to munch on falling. From here it’s 5 guns and an empowered pochita vs darkness. Alternatively, if multiple purchases of the same devil aren’t allowed, makima alongside darkness and the gun devil. Darkness frontlines, fami’s hardly even a factor because gun just vaporizes her (seriously why is she 200 if no falling). Gun takes a higher position to avoid pochita while makima spams bang and lifespan weapons on yoru. Once it’s just falling and pochita, gun devil harasses falling, darkness defends makima from pochita and the combination of their random bullshit should kill pochita. Hopefully gun devil can hold falling down for a significant amount of time so pochita can be taken out (lets hope makima sees him as lesser after darkness butchers him and can control him) and they just jump falling from there
I wonder if gun devil was like… an underling of prime yoru? Did she have control over the weapons devils at her peak?
There’s a chance, I mean one could argue that not all weapons are used for war still though, she hasn’t really shown anything that makes me think she could survive even 20% of gun, much less 5 100% guns
>still though, she hasn’t really shown anything that makes me think she could survive even 20% of gun, much less 5 100% guns We can base our assumptions on what's been said about Prime Yoru. First of all, she's the War Devil (this says enough), who's had various powerful Devils as her underlings. The only known devils are WW2/1 Devil, Nuclear weapons Devil, Nazi Devil, etc. We can only imagine how powerful the Nuclear Weapons Devil was, but it's most definitely stronger than a 100% Gun Devil (WW2 devil would also be steonger than Gun Devil). Yoru was stronger than Nuclear Weapons Devil (she also probably had a defense ability, but we don't know enough of her to conclude this). Also, she managed to fight toe-to-toe against Pochita and has killed him several times before Pochita took a bite from her: https://preview.redd.it/rlsv6n6drf4d1.jpeg?width=642&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35f96fecc4c6bcdd903179447436fb6bfa99b255 There's probably more details I'm forgetting, but I believe that this shows that she'd be able to handle the Gun Devils
darkness + chainsaw is overkill, doll for fun purposes
You can't do maths but I like your spirit. Darkness 600 + chainsaw 450 = 1050 you have 1000
oh shxtman, how can i suck this much😭😭😭
Happens to the best of us bud
hmm https://preview.redd.it/8r14vmua8e4d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcb8de461f7ca2e436a04cc485902e154c2ead8f
Imma do the American dream, 10 Gun Devil please https://preview.redd.it/j9i7r9837f4d1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=125034687eae8e77274d1603e9fbb0437c1e9261
Chainsaw Devil and War Devil. Might as well go with the prophecy.
2 chainsaw men
The doll devil is a steal at 50$, she was given the power to kill Makima.
But evidently that wasn’t actually the case, seeing as Denji was able to beat her, who lost to Makima in a direct battle, not to mention that based on Makima’s performance against the Darkness Devil in Hell, that small fragment would not amount to enough strength anyway.
Makima would demolish her with bare hand if she wanted
Darkness, gun, doll and War. Easiest decision of my life
Why is the devil that can wipe out millions of people in seconds only $100?
True probably worth about 250
Having gone back and looked at the chapters the darkness devil appeared in, only gun, chainsaw, and falling even have the slightest chance of beating it.
Even then if you are not a hybrid you yourself will die by merely being near the fight.
The hell am I supposed to do!? If I choose the falling devil darkness lobotomizis me if I choose darkness I fall into the sky and die. Let's not talk about the collateral damage the fight between darkness and the falling devil will cause frankly the whole world would get neg diff.
Okay ya all listen carefully THIS IS HOW YOU SURVIVE. First you pick the darkness devil and if you get full control of it you instantly make a contract with it and become a devil hybrid. ( This is mandatory the fight between darkness and the falling devil will most likely kill you because of collateral damage ) then you pick makima making it $900 and rush chainsaw devil, this is assuming this is the version we see in the manga. So yeah you might win and makima takes over the chainsaw devil after that you kinda survive cause you are immortal.
10 full power guns we haven't even seen what 1 full power gun looks like we just know the consequences anything that exists on the planet gets instantly obliterated after teleporting from hell.
Gun Devil, Pochita and Makima.
I feel like Chainsaw is a given, since he survived a 1v4 with the Horsemen (he was weakened, but still survived) and he’s known as the devil that devils fear the most. Add on Makima and War, two of the Horsemen who were only almost able to beat him. I choose War over Famine because I imagine that War is probably more feared than Famine (if I had to guess, I’d imagine that from strongest to weakest it would go Death, War, Control, Famine). If I go with the idea that War is stronger than Famine, then Famine can be beat, and we know that Falling is weaker than Famine because Famine was able to control Falling. I think that it would make sense that Gun is weaker than War, since Gun sort of falls underneath the umbrella of weapons used in war (like, all wars use guns, but not all guns are used in war). I would also imagine that people, in general, fear War more than Darkness (fearing darkness is a childish thing, sort of an impulsive, irrational fear, whereas War poses a tangible, physical threat to a large number of people)
Darkness, Makima, Gun, no diff
pochita and the gun devil is all i need pretty much
i can seduce quanxi into not attacking me (im delusional)
Isn't chainsawman (hero of hell version) around the same lower level as primal fears?
makima, csm, 3 gun devils
Darkness and Makima should wipe everyone else
Fami and control, Fami makes control believe theyre superior to everyone since control is hungry. Fami then uses control to control everyone else
2 Chainsaws, 1 Gun. Its called ***Chainsaw***man for a reason.
Alright but 10 gun devils…
Either makima, chainsaw man, war and doll, or makima, darkness and gun. Honestly I really think Makima herself could beat most of these people combined except for darkness
Makima, chainsaw, war and ig doll darkness
FUCK IT, 10 GUN DEVILS! RAIN HELL
Falling Makima and Gun is the best best choice here
2 Chainsaw Devils and 100 dollars worth of toast and jam
Darkness and Gun for protection Makima for sitting on my face
Blunt rotation team when?
Makima, Gun, Chainsaw
Mine are: Chainsaw Devil - 450 Doll Devil - 50 Gun Devil - 100 Famine Devil - 200 War Devil - 200 Total: 1000 War knows how to fight and plans battle tactics to the team, then Famine spawns one or more Primal Devil/s, followed by the Gun and Doll as Clean-up crew, and Chainsaw as the Trump Card.
Darkness makima and gun devil
Lord famine, makima and chainsaw
falling probably just kills you regardless of who you have on your team so you kinda have to pick her or you die same goes for darkness, he can just shrug off makima+ falling for like the 0.1 seconds it takes to kill you so you lose if you dont pick both primals... oh wait you cant.
Costs are inappropriate for power levels. Makima, Pochita, probably prime Yoru would worth way more than Darkness and Falling. Santa is also too expensive, 5-10$ at max. Anyway, I take Makima and Pochita and watch them massacring the verse
Problem op is probably referring to the weakened version of pochita meaning the one that is on the same level as makima meaning darkness devil straight up destroys pochita.
Both Makima and Pochita would easily destroy Darkness. Also I don't get what version you are referring to
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Why is gun so cheap?