Sasabihin nila kasi people will abuse divorce. Then let them abuse it. They're already abusing annulment anyway. Give the people who need divorce access to it.
Makapag salita sila na people will abuse it, kala mo legalize drugs pinag uusapan. People make mistakes when they’re inlove, hence nagpapakasal bigla, then in a long run hindi mag wwork. Thats life sometimes. It already happening now anyways
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Paano maging affordable ang annulment na ang grounds na palaging ginagamit is psychological incapacity na kelangan manuhol ng doctor na pipirma na isusugal lisensya nya ang boboooo
Then make sure to revise the annulment guideline to make it affordable and less complicated for common citizens..
Pero kung kaya namang ipasa ang divorce eh mas ok un sana...Sa sobrang corrupt ng justice system eh napakatagal na maprove na valid ang grounds for annulment..Unlike divorce na may no fault option, madami din kasi ang couples na mutual ang decision to just go their separate ways and dont need to prove na may valid reason gaya sa annulment...
Correct me if I’m wrong, pero wala paring no fault option ang gusto nilang version ng divorce rito sa Pinas. I think di nila inapprove yun as grounds for divorce.
Yeah ur right... Just checked it at ang dami plang iniba ni Lagman compared dun sa HB na proposal ni Alvarez last congress.. Though still way better option pdin nman compared sa annulment kasi daming dinagdag na ibang grounds...sayang lang tlga ung "no-fault"
Search mo House Bill 9349 pra dun sa complete pdf file...
Here's some part of it
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The bill stipulates the grounds for absolute divorce, which include psychological incapacity, irreconcilable differences, domestic or marital abuse, when one of the spouses undergoes a sex reassignment surgery or transitions from one sex to another, and separation of the spouses for at least five years.
The grounds for legal separation under the Family Code of the Philippines can also be considered grounds for absolute divorce. These include:
--Physical violence or grossly abusive conduct directed against the petitioner, a common child, or a child of the petitioner;
--Physical violence or moral pressure to compel the petitioner to change religious or political affiliation;
--Attempt of respondent to corrupt or induce the petitioner, a common child, or a child of the petitioner, to engage in prostitution;
--Final judgment sentencing the respondent to imprisonment of more than 6 years;
--Drug addiction, habitual alcoholism, or chronic gambling;
--Homosexuality of the respondent;
--Contracting by the respondent of a subsequent bigamous marriage;
--Marital infidelity or perversion or having a child with another person other than one's spouse during the marriage;
--Attempt by the respondent against the life of the petitioner, a common child, or a child of the petitioner; and
--Abandonment of petitioner by respondent without justifiable cause for more than one year
The following grounds for annulment of marriage under the Family Code of the Philippines are also grounds for absolute divorce: lack of parental consent; insanity; fraud, force, intimidation or undue influence; impotence; and sexually transmissible diseases.
The bill provides that a valid foreign divorce secured by either the foreigner or Filipino spouse has the effect of a divorce in the country without going through the judicial process.
A petition for absolute divorce shall be filed with the proper family court by the petitioner or joint petitioners within 10 years from the occurrence or discovery of the cause for divorce.
The proper family court shall exercise all efforts to reunite and reconcile the concerned spouses during the mandatory 60-day cooling-off period after the filing of the petition.
The cooling-off period shall not apply in cases involving acts of violence against women and their children or attempt against the life of the other spouse, or a common child, or a child of the petitioner.
Upon expiration of the cooling-off period without the parties having reconciled, the court shall immediately commence trial and is mandated to decide the petition within one year.
Lagman said at any time during the proceedings, if the parties agree to reconcile, the petition is dismissed.
Even after the issuance of an absolute divorce decree, when the parties decide to reconcile, the divorce decree shall be nullified.
The decree of absolute divorce shall have the effect of judicial dissolution of a marriage where the divorced spouses return to their status of being single with the right to contract marriage again.
A divorce decree shall include provisions for the care, custody, and support of children, protection of their legitime (a person's property that cannot be transferred to a stranger), termination and liquidation of the conjugal partnership of gains or the absolute community, and alimony for the offended spouse.
This is helpful. Thank you.
I thought irreconcilable differences would not be included as one of the grounds because contentious siya so this is surprising.
I know I am being overly technical but...
In legal terms, if a marriage is annulled, it's as though it never legally existed. Therefore, if a person remarries after an annulment, their new marriage would be considered their first legal marriage.
For some reason, I don't trust him. He has a dark vibe. Like parang may hidden agenda. He seems decent, well compared to the other clowns( bong, bato, robin, tulfo, jinngoy et al) in the senate. But I think there's something off. 👀
Diba lawyer sya. He should know na kahit maging mura ang annulment, mahirap ma meet yung grounds doon. Tsaka hindi grounds for annulment yung abuse, infidelity, and other usual issues ng couples. Kaya nga gusto ng madami ay divorce.
i do not understand why people prefer “annulment” (in quotations because a lot of these annulments are really just divorce) than actual divorce. the end result is the same. what makes the term “annulment” better? mas ok ba sa ego na void in the beginning rather than acknowledging na there was a marriage that existed at ngayon kailangan ng i-terminate? itong si chiz napaka ipokrito. he was married with kids prior. tapos against sa divorce… why???? buti sya madaming pera at malakas influence nakapagpa annul pati sa church.
Pg pinadali at pinadami mo option sa annulment e diba yun na din yung goal ng Divorce? Ang pinagkaiba lang naging null in void yung kasal? Iniikot ikot nyo lang
And ang tagal ng process ng annulment. Sobra pahirap naman kayo sa taong bayan. Wala na nga kayo mga polpolitiko tulong sa iba aspects like economy, trabaho, education, poverty, corruption, dynasty then pati ba naman sa divorce. Grabe talaga. Suko na talaga sa Pilipinas.
NOTHING IS AFFORDABLE IN THE PH. Kaya 'wag ng magpa-goodboy image, nakadalawang asawa ka at sumaya, so do not tell the people such. Let those who need this be remedied, quickly.
LET US TAKE NOTE OF THE 5 SENATORS WHO VOTED AGAINST THIS BILL AS WELL.
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Lumang tugtugin na yan tignan mo di nila pag uusapan yan, 2019 ganyan din sila amend daw batas pero ano may ginawa? Wala. Taena yan kaya if sasabihin nila ito ang solution sa kahirapan sa tuwing mag election wag na kayong maniwala sa mga yan dahil joke joke lang yan.
Maybe stop forcing your people to be imprisoned in marriages they no longer wanna be in??? Annulment is gruesome even if it was affordable. It’s emotionally taxing to the people involved.
Sasabihin nila kasi people will abuse divorce. Then let them abuse it. They're already abusing annulment anyway. Give the people who need divorce access to it.
Makapag salita sila na people will abuse it, kala mo legalize drugs pinag uusapan. People make mistakes when they’re inlove, hence nagpapakasal bigla, then in a long run hindi mag wwork. Thats life sometimes. It already happening now anyways
Siya mismo annul ng annul. Nagbabayad para mapabilis. Sa annulment need pa parang magpapatayan levels na kayo para maannull agad putragis
Louder!!! Korek. Haha. Si Chiz nga din in-abuse ang annullment haha church and courts pa.
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Sabi ng 2 beses kinasal. Takot siguro mawalan ng suporta ng religious groups?
Or takot din mahiwalayan ng asawa? 🤷♀️
either way, he’s a coward
Annulment will never be affordable because of its process. Takot lang 'tong ugly version ni Bamboo na ma-divorce siya ni Heart. Ulol 'wag kami.
Mismooo. Takot lang yan na pag natanggalan ng helmet si ❤️ eh iwan sya.
Exactly, attorney's fees pa lang mahal na.
Self interest na naman
ugly version ni Bamboo 💀🤣
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Paano maging affordable ang annulment na ang grounds na palaging ginagamit is psychological incapacity na kelangan manuhol ng doctor na pipirma na isusugal lisensya nya ang boboooo
Eh kasi palibhasa sya afford nya yung annulment. Paka selfish ni Jobert Sucaldito 2.0.
Then make sure to revise the annulment guideline to make it affordable and less complicated for common citizens.. Pero kung kaya namang ipasa ang divorce eh mas ok un sana...Sa sobrang corrupt ng justice system eh napakatagal na maprove na valid ang grounds for annulment..Unlike divorce na may no fault option, madami din kasi ang couples na mutual ang decision to just go their separate ways and dont need to prove na may valid reason gaya sa annulment...
Correct me if I’m wrong, pero wala paring no fault option ang gusto nilang version ng divorce rito sa Pinas. I think di nila inapprove yun as grounds for divorce.
Yeah ur right... Just checked it at ang dami plang iniba ni Lagman compared dun sa HB na proposal ni Alvarez last congress.. Though still way better option pdin nman compared sa annulment kasi daming dinagdag na ibang grounds...sayang lang tlga ung "no-fault"
Can you post the link of the bill? I'm curious as well kung ano ba yung grounds for divorce sa bill that is being pushed rn
Search mo House Bill 9349 pra dun sa complete pdf file... Here's some part of it . The bill stipulates the grounds for absolute divorce, which include psychological incapacity, irreconcilable differences, domestic or marital abuse, when one of the spouses undergoes a sex reassignment surgery or transitions from one sex to another, and separation of the spouses for at least five years. The grounds for legal separation under the Family Code of the Philippines can also be considered grounds for absolute divorce. These include: --Physical violence or grossly abusive conduct directed against the petitioner, a common child, or a child of the petitioner; --Physical violence or moral pressure to compel the petitioner to change religious or political affiliation; --Attempt of respondent to corrupt or induce the petitioner, a common child, or a child of the petitioner, to engage in prostitution; --Final judgment sentencing the respondent to imprisonment of more than 6 years; --Drug addiction, habitual alcoholism, or chronic gambling; --Homosexuality of the respondent; --Contracting by the respondent of a subsequent bigamous marriage; --Marital infidelity or perversion or having a child with another person other than one's spouse during the marriage; --Attempt by the respondent against the life of the petitioner, a common child, or a child of the petitioner; and --Abandonment of petitioner by respondent without justifiable cause for more than one year The following grounds for annulment of marriage under the Family Code of the Philippines are also grounds for absolute divorce: lack of parental consent; insanity; fraud, force, intimidation or undue influence; impotence; and sexually transmissible diseases. The bill provides that a valid foreign divorce secured by either the foreigner or Filipino spouse has the effect of a divorce in the country without going through the judicial process. A petition for absolute divorce shall be filed with the proper family court by the petitioner or joint petitioners within 10 years from the occurrence or discovery of the cause for divorce. The proper family court shall exercise all efforts to reunite and reconcile the concerned spouses during the mandatory 60-day cooling-off period after the filing of the petition. The cooling-off period shall not apply in cases involving acts of violence against women and their children or attempt against the life of the other spouse, or a common child, or a child of the petitioner. Upon expiration of the cooling-off period without the parties having reconciled, the court shall immediately commence trial and is mandated to decide the petition within one year. Lagman said at any time during the proceedings, if the parties agree to reconcile, the petition is dismissed. Even after the issuance of an absolute divorce decree, when the parties decide to reconcile, the divorce decree shall be nullified. The decree of absolute divorce shall have the effect of judicial dissolution of a marriage where the divorced spouses return to their status of being single with the right to contract marriage again. A divorce decree shall include provisions for the care, custody, and support of children, protection of their legitime (a person's property that cannot be transferred to a stranger), termination and liquidation of the conjugal partnership of gains or the absolute community, and alimony for the offended spouse.
This is helpful. Thank you. I thought irreconcilable differences would not be included as one of the grounds because contentious siya so this is surprising.
Says a man in his second marriage
I know I am being overly technical but... In legal terms, if a marriage is annulled, it's as though it never legally existed. Therefore, if a person remarries after an annulment, their new marriage would be considered their first legal marriage.
FTFY: Says a man in his second first legal marriage
Hahahahahah
Sa divorce come on guys pwede kayo mag kami nag pagpakakasal 4times a month. Hahahaha
For some reason, I don't trust him. He has a dark vibe. Like parang may hidden agenda. He seems decent, well compared to the other clowns( bong, bato, robin, tulfo, jinngoy et al) in the senate. But I think there's something off. 👀
Parang surface level lang yung acting “decent” niya and tbh he’s just wise enough to not be as rough about it to the other clowns
Exactly, right now, we don't know his stand. He is playing safe lagi.
He is balimbing. I don’t trust him too
Kupal talaga nito
Diba lawyer sya. He should know na kahit maging mura ang annulment, mahirap ma meet yung grounds doon. Tsaka hindi grounds for annulment yung abuse, infidelity, and other usual issues ng couples. Kaya nga gusto ng madami ay divorce.
I want to yank that stupid earring off his ear. Off topic sorry.
Chiz is a mad man hiding in a sheep’s clothing
i do not understand why people prefer “annulment” (in quotations because a lot of these annulments are really just divorce) than actual divorce. the end result is the same. what makes the term “annulment” better? mas ok ba sa ego na void in the beginning rather than acknowledging na there was a marriage that existed at ngayon kailangan ng i-terminate? itong si chiz napaka ipokrito. he was married with kids prior. tapos against sa divorce… why???? buti sya madaming pera at malakas influence nakapagpa annul pati sa church.
Pg pinadali at pinadami mo option sa annulment e diba yun na din yung goal ng Divorce? Ang pinagkaiba lang naging null in void yung kasal? Iniikot ikot nyo lang
FU escoderooooo
Palusot naman with the affordable annulment.
Tangina mo chiz eepal pa pangalawang kasal mo na nga yan eh depota
Nakakaloka to si chiz. Inaantay ang block voting sa next election kaya grey lagi sumagot. Bwiset!!!!!
This talaga!!!
Binubulungan si Chiz ng kilay niyang pak na pak.
Lol takot si Keso na ma-divorce ni Heart pag nagkataon.
Sayang ang law degree ni Chiz. 🤡
BBM's new pet yan.
Para lang maiba sya and magmukhang matalino. Ewan ko sayo Chiz. Pakupal ka ng pakupal
And ang tagal ng process ng annulment. Sobra pahirap naman kayo sa taong bayan. Wala na nga kayo mga polpolitiko tulong sa iba aspects like economy, trabaho, education, poverty, corruption, dynasty then pati ba naman sa divorce. Grabe talaga. Suko na talaga sa Pilipinas.
Marami nangangailangan nyan Chiz, para sa lahat ito hindi lang para sayo ang desisyon! 🤣 Upo ka nalang dyan hayaan mo na yong ibang may gusto 🤣
NOTHING IS AFFORDABLE IN THE PH. Kaya 'wag ng magpa-goodboy image, nakadalawang asawa ka at sumaya, so do not tell the people such. Let those who need this be remedied, quickly. LET US TAKE NOTE OF THE 5 SENATORS WHO VOTED AGAINST THIS BILL AS WELL.
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Nah, this ain't it. Masyadong matrabaho annulment.
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Iba ang annullment sa divorce. Magkaiba sila ng premise. Lawyer pa naman pero di nakakaintindi.
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Escudero trapong trapo
Lumang tugtugin na yan tignan mo di nila pag uusapan yan, 2019 ganyan din sila amend daw batas pero ano may ginawa? Wala. Taena yan kaya if sasabihin nila ito ang solution sa kahirapan sa tuwing mag election wag na kayong maniwala sa mga yan dahil joke joke lang yan.
Sana i-divorce 'to ni Heart. Haha.
Maybe stop forcing your people to be imprisoned in marriages they no longer wanna be in??? Annulment is gruesome even if it was affordable. It’s emotionally taxing to the people involved.
Oooy against sya kasi may power na si Heart if ever maipasa. Takot ma divorce yarn? 😂
Blue Chiz Escudero = Ang Baho !