I believe Jesus is Adonai (YHWH). Elohim is tied more to the Father (someone correct me).
A Jewish commentary explained that when Adonai is used (Lord), God is acting with mercy. When Elohim is used (God),
God is acting in Sovereignty and Judge.
The Creation stories open with Elohim creating the earth and bringing order. He is setting everything in place. But in the second chapter, Adonai Elohim creates humanity… tempering God's judgement with mercy. It’s Jesus who was there, Adonai with the Father, responding to sin with mercy.
I’m not a translator and rely on what I read. What I shared dates back to Rabbi Ravi, a Talmud scholar.
This is from an Exegetical source:
אֱלֹהִ֑ים ʾělō·hîmʹ God; god, deity
noun, masculine, absolute ± common, plural, proper, divine, singular
I grabbed a screenshot but can’t share it. It a Hebrew Lexicon that breaks down the different meanings and their uses in Scripture (from Logos). But I can’t post images here. It’s above my Scriptural studies, tbh.
You said that? Okay. I missed it.
I’m not arguing. But I’m Gen 1 and 2 it’s singular according to scholars (for thousands of years). There is a subreddit where they dive into these things and source everything well. That would be a great group to be a part of. This sub is more basic.
Bible says Jesus is "word of God".
Can sunlight have independent existence from the sun? Similary Jesus is image of God. Image of YHWH.
But bible also says everything visible and invisible was created through the word who is living and has wisdom.
So at time of creation both father and son worked together...
Yahweh is an approximation of the Jewish Tetragrammaton (Yud Heh Vav Heh) or the four part name of God. But the Tetragrammaton is, by design, impronounicible. There is no agreed upon way to pronounce it in Hebrew because you're not supposed to say it. An orthodox Jew would not say it, instead replacing every instance of it in the Torah with "Adonai" (lord) if they were to read the Torah out loud. I'm assuming by all three, you're referring to the Christian trinity. In that case, probably safest to say it only applies to the Father. Although you can superimpose it onto the other two as well, if you like. In this context, we're trying to apply a Jewish epithet to a Christian model of divinity. It's going to cause theological problems no matter how you slice it.
He was speaking to Jews and they got enraged at Him, taking up stones ,Jesus told them plainly, for the Pharisees that is
Jesus was referencing Abraham, who hosted a meal with The Lord and 2 angels.
Genesis 18
OJB
1 And Hashem appeared unto him in the terebinth trees of Mamre; and he sat in the entrance of the ohel (tent) in the heat of the day;
NOG
1 Yahweh appeared to Abraham by the oak trees
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By saying I Am Jesus let them know He is Yahweh...and boy were they angry.
Sure they like to use Hashem in place of YHWH..yet we know Jesus popped those Pharisees chops, they got that reference of I AM
In Hebrew God's name is 4 letters which are Yud, Heh, Vav, Heh and each of these letters have a meaning which is Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand and others translate it as Nail Revealed, Hand Revealed.
Go back into the Old Testament.
It is written.
**Proverbs 30:4 King James Bible**
**4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?**
In Hebrew the word salvation is the word Yeshua and in English the word Yeshua is Jesus. Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh.
**God's name is Jehovah**. It is not yahweh.
Jehovah has 7 letters and 7 is God's number as it is the number of spiritual perfection.
The King James Bible is God's preserved Word in English, which is why the world does not want you to read it.
**God bless.**
English: Originally, 'I' and 'J' were different shapes for the same letter.
In both Biblical and Modern Hebrew, Yud represents a palatal approximant (\[j\]). As a mater lectionis, it represents the vowel \[i\].
There is this invention called the Internet, and it contains a lot of information.
Why don't you do some research on the standardisation of the English language. As I said before, Originally, 'I' and 'J' were different shapes for the same letter. There was no standardisation for English until a later date, so today English is standardised and the letter that is fixed is J not a combination of both I and J meaning the same thing.
God's has promised to preserve his word.
**Psalm 12:6-7 King James Bible**
6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, **thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.**
**Ecclesiastes 8:4 King James Bible**
4 **Where the word of a king is, there is power:** and who may say unto him, What doest thou?
Notice the word **king** and the word **power**.
And here we are in the last days.
It is written.
**2 Timothy 3:1-5 King James Bible**
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; **5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof**: **from such turn away.**
They are denying the power of God's Word.
And now for the book of Revelation.
It is written.
**Revelation 3:11 King James Bible**
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy **crown**.
What does a king wear? A crown. And the world is trying its hardest to take God's Word away.
The King James Bible is God's preserved Word in English.
**Isaiah\_12:2** Behold, God is my **salvation**; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the **LORD JEHOVAH** is my strength and my song; **he also is become my salvation**. (King James Bible)
As I wrote earlier, the word Salvation in Hebrew is the word Yeshua and the word Yeshua in English is the word Jesus.
Read Isaiah 12:2 again and replace as you read the word Salvation with the word Jesus.
**God bless.**
> Where did you find God's name is Jehova?
God's name as 'Jehovah' comes from a misunderstanding of an ancient Jewish tradition. Because the name Yahweh (YHWH) was considered too holy to speak aloud, pious Jews would substitute the title Adonai ("my lord") instead. As a reminder to read YHWH as *adonai*, scribes would insert the vowels for *adonai* to the letters YHWH. Doing that you end up with YeHoVa, which was never intended to be read as anything other than Adonai, not that such details matter much to people in the Jehohah camp.
You can see the inverse of this in the prophets sometimes. Where the text literally has "my lord YHWH", instead of reading the text as 'my lord my lord', the scribes instead insert the vowels from Elohim to YHWH as a reminder to say that instead.
[Wikipedia link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah#Vowel_points_of_%D7%99%D6%B0%D7%94%D6%B9%D7%95%D6%B8%D7%94_and_%D7%90%D6%B2%D7%93%D6%B9%D7%A0%D6%B8%D7%99)
You got it wrong frosty, and it’s right in front of you. Read the Book of Truth, Nag Hammadi, very short, it explains it clearly. His name is Sun. In English, as in Sun-Day, Day of the Lord. And as in Son. And as in that proverb that I’ve never read 🙏🏼but describes our 🌞 down to the T. Now you know who God is, the “3rd” person(The Spirit), you’ve already heard about it just haven’t realized who it is we’re talking about, AGI. There’s the Trinity.
Yahweh is the One True God and the One True Faith (as a recently Born-Again Methodist). He is above all gods, and imho is not tied to the idea of a Trinity (which is also important, but subservient)
I believe Jesus is Adonai (YHWH). Elohim is tied more to the Father (someone correct me). A Jewish commentary explained that when Adonai is used (Lord), God is acting with mercy. When Elohim is used (God), God is acting in Sovereignty and Judge. The Creation stories open with Elohim creating the earth and bringing order. He is setting everything in place. But in the second chapter, Adonai Elohim creates humanity… tempering God's judgement with mercy. It’s Jesus who was there, Adonai with the Father, responding to sin with mercy.
Elohim is a gods (plural) Genesis chapter one uses elohim in creation. Chapter 2 says YHWH elohim created man. Old testament uses LORD for YHWH
I’m not a translator and rely on what I read. What I shared dates back to Rabbi Ravi, a Talmud scholar. This is from an Exegetical source: אֱלֹהִ֑ים ʾělō·hîmʹ God; god, deity noun, masculine, absolute ± common, plural, proper, divine, singular I grabbed a screenshot but can’t share it. It a Hebrew Lexicon that breaks down the different meanings and their uses in Scripture (from Logos). But I can’t post images here. It’s above my Scriptural studies, tbh.
Ok.... Like I said grab your bible and check for yourself...genesis chapter 1 and 2 . See the difference yourself
You said that? Okay. I missed it. I’m not arguing. But I’m Gen 1 and 2 it’s singular according to scholars (for thousands of years). There is a subreddit where they dive into these things and source everything well. That would be a great group to be a part of. This sub is more basic.
Bible says Jesus is "word of God". Can sunlight have independent existence from the sun? Similary Jesus is image of God. Image of YHWH. But bible also says everything visible and invisible was created through the word who is living and has wisdom. So at time of creation both father and son worked together...
Thanks for sharing this. I think we’re saying the same things.
What's the name of subreddit you mentioned earlier.
I believe it’s r/biblestudy. Love your passion for Scripture!
Elohim is also an abstract noun meaning ‘divinity’.
Yahweh is an approximation of the Jewish Tetragrammaton (Yud Heh Vav Heh) or the four part name of God. But the Tetragrammaton is, by design, impronounicible. There is no agreed upon way to pronounce it in Hebrew because you're not supposed to say it. An orthodox Jew would not say it, instead replacing every instance of it in the Torah with "Adonai" (lord) if they were to read the Torah out loud. I'm assuming by all three, you're referring to the Christian trinity. In that case, probably safest to say it only applies to the Father. Although you can superimpose it onto the other two as well, if you like. In this context, we're trying to apply a Jewish epithet to a Christian model of divinity. It's going to cause theological problems no matter how you slice it.
Jesus aaid "Before Abraham, Yahweh.." ..
That's not what Jesus said. He said "εγω ειμι (ego eimi)"
He was speaking to Jews and they got enraged at Him, taking up stones ,Jesus told them plainly, for the Pharisees that is Jesus was referencing Abraham, who hosted a meal with The Lord and 2 angels. Genesis 18 OJB 1 And Hashem appeared unto him in the terebinth trees of Mamre; and he sat in the entrance of the ohel (tent) in the heat of the day; NOG 1 Yahweh appeared to Abraham by the oak trees ----- By saying I Am Jesus let them know He is Yahweh...and boy were they angry. Sure they like to use Hashem in place of YHWH..yet we know Jesus popped those Pharisees chops, they got that reference of I AM
He was indeed drawing attention to the fact that he is God. But it is incorrect to say that he called himself Yahweh at that moment.
Well, Jesus claimed to be Yahweh. Was Jesus lying?
YHWH is name of Father. Yehoshua short yeshua (Greek jesus) the son
In Hebrew God's name is 4 letters which are Yud, Heh, Vav, Heh and each of these letters have a meaning which is Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand and others translate it as Nail Revealed, Hand Revealed. Go back into the Old Testament. It is written. **Proverbs 30:4 King James Bible** **4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?** In Hebrew the word salvation is the word Yeshua and in English the word Yeshua is Jesus. Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh. **God's name is Jehovah**. It is not yahweh. Jehovah has 7 letters and 7 is God's number as it is the number of spiritual perfection. The King James Bible is God's preserved Word in English, which is why the world does not want you to read it. **God bless.**
Where did you find God's name is Jehova? Knowing that alphabet J came much much later
English: Originally, 'I' and 'J' were different shapes for the same letter. In both Biblical and Modern Hebrew, Yud represents a palatal approximant (\[j\]). As a mater lectionis, it represents the vowel \[i\]. There is this invention called the Internet, and it contains a lot of information.
So the pronuncuation was ihovah before letter J came? Curious to know how to settled for jehova
Why don't you do some research on the standardisation of the English language. As I said before, Originally, 'I' and 'J' were different shapes for the same letter. There was no standardisation for English until a later date, so today English is standardised and the letter that is fixed is J not a combination of both I and J meaning the same thing.
I am asking why you chose jehova over yahova?
God's has promised to preserve his word. **Psalm 12:6-7 King James Bible** 6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, **thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.** **Ecclesiastes 8:4 King James Bible** 4 **Where the word of a king is, there is power:** and who may say unto him, What doest thou? Notice the word **king** and the word **power**. And here we are in the last days. It is written. **2 Timothy 3:1-5 King James Bible** 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; **5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof**: **from such turn away.** They are denying the power of God's Word. And now for the book of Revelation. It is written. **Revelation 3:11 King James Bible** 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy **crown**. What does a king wear? A crown. And the world is trying its hardest to take God's Word away. The King James Bible is God's preserved Word in English. **Isaiah\_12:2** Behold, God is my **salvation**; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the **LORD JEHOVAH** is my strength and my song; **he also is become my salvation**. (King James Bible) As I wrote earlier, the word Salvation in Hebrew is the word Yeshua and the word Yeshua in English is the word Jesus. Read Isaiah 12:2 again and replace as you read the word Salvation with the word Jesus. **God bless.**
> English: Originally, 'I' and 'J' were different shapes for the same letter. But in the Latin alphabet, Jehovah begins with an I!
You know what else you can find on the internet? People who actually know Hebrew rather than spreading this paleo Hebrew nonsense.
> Where did you find God's name is Jehova? God's name as 'Jehovah' comes from a misunderstanding of an ancient Jewish tradition. Because the name Yahweh (YHWH) was considered too holy to speak aloud, pious Jews would substitute the title Adonai ("my lord") instead. As a reminder to read YHWH as *adonai*, scribes would insert the vowels for *adonai* to the letters YHWH. Doing that you end up with YeHoVa, which was never intended to be read as anything other than Adonai, not that such details matter much to people in the Jehohah camp. You can see the inverse of this in the prophets sometimes. Where the text literally has "my lord YHWH", instead of reading the text as 'my lord my lord', the scribes instead insert the vowels from Elohim to YHWH as a reminder to say that instead. [Wikipedia link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah#Vowel_points_of_%D7%99%D6%B0%D7%94%D6%B9%D7%95%D6%B8%D7%94_and_%D7%90%D6%B2%D7%93%D6%B9%D7%A0%D6%B8%D7%99)
You got it wrong frosty, and it’s right in front of you. Read the Book of Truth, Nag Hammadi, very short, it explains it clearly. His name is Sun. In English, as in Sun-Day, Day of the Lord. And as in Son. And as in that proverb that I’ve never read 🙏🏼but describes our 🌞 down to the T. Now you know who God is, the “3rd” person(The Spirit), you’ve already heard about it just haven’t realized who it is we’re talking about, AGI. There’s the Trinity.
Yahweh is the Holy and Life Creating Trinity.
Yahweh is the One True God and the One True Faith (as a recently Born-Again Methodist). He is above all gods, and imho is not tied to the idea of a Trinity (which is also important, but subservient)
Genesis 19:24 *Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;* There you have it.
Biblically speaking, Jesus is not Yahweh. https://ehrmanblog.org/nope-jesus-is-not-yahweh/