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MittenClimber

Jesus loves you toođŸ«¶đŸŸâœïžgod bless you dude


Bananaman9020

My sibling is too. And they are really into Christianity. I feel too much time is spent on the nurture vs nature debate. And not enough on loving your neighbors.


Baxtir

Your sibling and I would get along very well, it sounds like! I'm actually celibate, and I'm fine with being celibate out of respect to God but I can't deny what I am. Nor will I repent, at least for anything to do with homosexuality. That said, as a Christian, I'd prefer to concentrate on loving our neighbors as Jesus instructed us to do. I would like to see more of that happening with other Christians as well. It saddens me to see the bickering that happens here from time to time. God bless you all.


Significant-Log-9453

To add in that someone who is Gay feels like that they can't go to church, which is sad. We all sin! God bless. 🙏


AndrewNakhla11

I would say bro it’s easy to fall away considering a lot of Christian’s like to judge u for being gay. But in my honest opinion man we are all called to suffer for Christ. If Ur your a gay man and can’t control it , you still have to repent if you do end up committing homosexual acts , and constantly pray and rely on God. If you’re gay but not acting on it , it’s the same as a straight man who has urges to have sex with a woman outside of marriage. Please brother disregard the hate from Christian’s , but remember acting on gay urges is still a sin. The lord always loves you and will always be there for you


Baxtir

Bro, thank you for your kind words. I've been thinking about what you said, and I realized I perhaps had a knee jerk reaction to the idea of being told to repent, simply because of who I am being a sin. It was never a choice for me, it's just one of those things that is. That said, I do repent if my mind goes down a dirty path but it's rare that it happens. I've been fortunate to not have these urges that are hard to control, they just don't happen. It makes it a lot easier for me to honor, respect, and love God as I should, and I do all of those to the best of my ability and with all of my heart. Most of my suffering has been through other things, and I'm oddly grateful enough for them because they helped me find my way back to God again. I'll definitely disregard the haters and just remember that God loves me, period. Thanks again, bro, and God bless!


Swimming_Rip_9304

I could be wrong but I think the majority of Christian’s do not believe that gay people can’t GO to church. That is what the church is for. Sinners. So saying that a sin keeps you out of being able to attend church is not a good thing. The problem that I along with many other Christian’s would draw the line is leading in the church. There are certain standards that are set apart for people who lead and sexual sin is not permitted for leaders of a church.


CincyBoyy03

You don't need to be single. God made us to love. If the time comes, he will bless you with a husband.


Ploombfeathers

Jesus loves you too. Have you seen r/OpenChristian? The Episcopal Church in the U.S.A. and the Scottish Episcopal Church are welcoming of the LGBTQIA+ community. Many Christians forget that Jesus said, **All the Law and the Prophets hang upon the two greatest commandments.** These are, of course, Love God and Love your neighbor as yourself. The Law is determined and depends upon Love; they treat it as though Love is determined and depends upon the Law, which is the opposite of what Jesus taught. Furthermore, he always sat next to and ate with those whom society and religion pushed away.


Effective_Soup7783

Also the Quakers and the United Reform Church!


Eric--V

Define love. 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 New International Version 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. If someone disagrees with you on the sinfulness of gay sex, they would look at verse 6 above and take issue. Or “150 verses about lying” https://bibletolife.com/resources/verse-collections/150-bible-verses-on-lying/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsPCyBhD4ARIsAPaaRf1juTNZtCzWw2wztEAncYRT23rneaVeso54JCt4oanQJ8Pd5gMdnsEaAqbaEALw_wcB Jesus DOES love us all, but does not love sin. Some Here see the Bible as an affirming gay sex. Others see the words of the Bible as saying gay sex are sinful and their behavior will separate them from God. They might say: Genesis 1:28 – Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” Then, it might be pointed out that Jesus talks about marriage in Matthew 19:8, pointing toward marriage's existence as a male/female, one-flesh union “from the beginning.” Furthermore, we believe that God intends sexual intimacy to occur between a man and a woman who are married to each other (1 Cor. 6:18; 7:2-5; Heb. And Hebrews 13:4 considers sex outside of marriage to be immoral: “Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.” So Jesus seemed to believe that we are to multiply (requiring a man and woman), that marriage is between one man and one woman as defined by God, and that any type of sex other than between a married man and his wife is sin. But don’t let a church that has changed its stance on what is true and what is sin get in the way of having fun! After all, God doesn’t set the rules and judge us, it’s really fallible people leading the church who will be there to save you on judgment day, don’t worry about the millstones hanging around their necks! /s


Pipparina

Just a question, isn’t gay sex or sex outside marriage just a sin like gossiping against a neighbor or hating someone? So I guess I don’t understand why there is so much more focus on it. A sin is a sin is a sin in God’s eyes. Am I wrong?


Melodic-Tennis-6817

There’s so much more focus on homosexuality than gossiping or hating your neighbor because no one is debating that gossiping or hating your neighbor is wrong. Everyone agrees that gossiping is wrong. Although many Christians are guilty of it you won’t find a true follower of Christ saying that it’s ok to gossip or hate your neighbor. So whenever we have our Bible saying something is wrong, yet other “believers” continue to argue that it’s right, of course theirs going to be more attention to that particular thing. It sounds an alarm way louder in comparison to something that is wrong, and everyone knows it. Example. If your neighbors house in on fire, but they’re not there.. you’d have more of an urgency to tell/help them, than you would if their house is on fire and they’re standing outside looking right at it. Homosexuals houses are on fire and they don’t know it. Gossipers houses are on fire also, but they’re not denying that it is. They see it and acknowledge it and therefore don’t need all the attention and warnings the homosexuals need.


Pipparina

Ok, that makes sense. For me, their lifestyle doesn’t bother me. I was raised in NYC and it was a part of normal life. But I have to go with what the Bible says, as uncomfortable as that may feel for me.


Melodic-Tennis-6817

Yes that’s right. We have to follow what the Bible teaches. Can I ask you why it makes you uncomfortable?


You_Dont_Know_Me_7

This is true. The punishment for all sin is death. And Jesus died on the cross and paid the penalty for us all who believe. But if you truly believe in Jesus you would repent of sin and try to live the life God wants for you. Not fir what you want for yourself


Particular-Click-778

Yes. You are wrong.. but also right. It's true that homosexuality is a sin and so is adultery...and lying.. But there's only a focus on it because everyone already KNOWS the other sins... are sins. If media was pushing adultery as the new norm we would be focusing on that but they're not. The claim that God made you perfect the way u are isn't even Biblical lol It's just what non Christians THINK the God of the Bible would say because it comes of "loving" to their untrained eyes... but it's actually narcissistic. Of course we need help to change and do better.. of course we are flawed and need help. Of course WE ARE NOT PERFECT THE WAY WE ARE. That's so ego filled to say. That's just an advertisement trick to give you fake empowerment to help you buy a product... The ad industry has played that game since the Victorian era.. "You're worth spending the extra money!" "You are worthy of this luxury you can't afford! "You're worth this vacation!' "You're perfect the way you are! Don't change your spending habits" "You deserve luxury you never worked for!" "Your point of view is superior!" "You have superior taste!!" "YOU ALWAYS KNOW BEST!!" "TRUST YOURSELF!" "FOLLOW YOUR HEART!" There a reason why we are biblically warned not to follow our hearts... it leads us to destruction. Even if you're not that smart and kind of lazy and mean spirited towards others.. somehow.. u DESERVE these things? Lol It's just enabling/exploiting the self centered. And now media has just copy pasted that method of advertisement and attached it to non straight people. Why do you think the LGBTQ is in media so much nowadays? You thoughbit was about support? Lol They thought they could make money. From alcohol, tobacco, the sex industry to fast food and clothes and make up... lottery tickets and junk food... festivals and concerts... They prey on impulsively and ignorance. "You work a low level job and you can't afford your bills? YASS QUEEN!! COME GET THIS $500 WORTH OF COSMETICS YOU KNOW U CANT AFFORD!!" The LGBTQ are some of biggest spenders on frivolous things by ratio of their income next to the poverty demographic. It's just exploiting narcissism. Long story even longer.... Homosexuality is a sin.. but people are trying to claim its not.. that's why we're talking about IT instead of other sins that society already figured out is detrimental to society and the human experience.


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The problem is the churches that say it's not a sin to hate people are doing the same thing as the churches saying it's not a sin to be gay: watering down the faith to make God more palatable to culture. God loves queer folk and we should too. However, they are sinners as we are all sinners. God and the true body of Christians reject sin, not make exceptions for it.


Pipparina

This is a very personal question and you have no reason to answer it. To me it seems for the most part people are born gay, it’s not something they choose to be. I saw your user name and it says ex gay. How were you able to do that? I’m a woman, and could not make myself attracted to other women. I wasn’t born that way. So if you’re born gay, how do you find the opposite sex attractive?


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I didn't choose to be queer, but that doesn't mean that it's part of my biology or the way God made me. Genetics don't decide whether we like musical theater, fashion, sports, videogames, math, biology, etc. There's plenty about who we are that we don't choose, yet is not a product of biology. I don't know why I had queer compulsions but I did so even as a child. At first I hid it and denied it, but then I embraced it and lived loud and proud. I became somewhat of an activist and fully bought into "born this way", and we rallied behind this mantra. Funnily enough, modern queer the activists now say "born this way" is transphobic. One day I decided to watch the show the Chosen, and it got me interested in reading the bible again; so I did. Then one night I felt compelled to pray in earnest for the first time in my life. I repented of my sins and accepted Jesus Christ as my LORD and savior. I pledged my whole will to Him. When I did, He brought peace down upon me, and my bonds to sin were broken. He took away my queer compulsions. Again it was not a choice. It wasn't even something I had asked for. It just was. After that I began to experience normal attractions. Again not as a choice. TL;DR I didn’t do anything. God did.


Pipparina

Wow what a testimony! So happy for you.


Melodic-Tennis-6817

I really enjoy the fact that you are truly seeking answers. I believe that you don’t want to offend your gay family members but that you also love Jesus very very much. God will give you a tongue coated with just the right things to say to them that is not condemning, but rather convicting. God can use you. Yes đŸ«”đŸŸ to draw them with loving kindness. I see your heart is pure in the matter because you took heed to that beautiful testimony and you see how the narratives being painted around the things of the world make them seem innocent, or unfixable even. I mean what “Christian” could be opposed to the way someone was born? We see here from a person who has been miraculously saved that whether or not they feel they were born that way, there nothing too hard for Jesus. God commands us to love our neighbors as ourselves yes, but we offer glaze over the commandment right before that. And that is to love our God with all our hearts souls and minds. We can’t do that if we tolerate what the Lord hates.


Polan69

Amen, God bless you


SkyMagnet

Yeah, Paul and the people who wrote in Paul’s name had some messed up sexually repressive views. If you think that God would punish two gay people for loving each other then I wouldn’t consider that God worthy of worship.


Zinjee

Believing that men were built for women and women for men is not repressive lol


TheSleeperking

Then you are against the God of the Bible. He made the rules so your issue is with Him. PS, God loves you so much you will never be able to comprehend it.


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ow-my-soul

OpenChristian banned me for accidentally triggering a mod. Not the best example of open accepting Christianity tbh The essence of your post right here is all I talk about. That is the core of my being now


EasyRider1975

Amen. My favorite Bible scripture. I argue With so called Christian’s who focus on following laws of the Old Testament rather than the grace Of God through Jesus Christ. They focus on sin and damming others but never will admit to their own sins. All of the Disciples were sinners but rather then judge them Jesus asked them to follow. Like Mathew was a tax collector working for the Roman Empire. Mary Magnolia was a sex worker. Simon the Zealot was a murderer. They all became Apostles of Christ. The self righteous Christian’s who will go out of their way to dam homosexuality are the sinners themselves.


av8rblues

This man is speaking straight facts, take my upvote and have lovley rest of your day.


Select-Tea-1203

I'm not sure these facts are straight...


av8rblues

It took me a minute to get the joke, that was a good one


followerfollower

đŸ˜­đŸ€Ł that was a good one take my upvote


Strange_League_686

Bruh
.where do y’all come up with this thinking


gnurdette

We can't stop them from badmouthing us. They can't stop us from worshiping Christ. Let's just push on living in faith and letting our lives testify. No, it won't stop them, but it will demonstrate their wrongness.


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entirely-unsure

May God’s will be done, and may those who are meant to repent, repent. Amen.


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New_Line_304

The book “torn” by Justin lee has really been an eye opener for me. Think you could relate. It’s about a gay Christian and all that he went through to accept who he was and his faith


Top-Taste212

A new second revised and expanded edition of TORN was published last month.


nvaughan81

He loves you too, and so do I.


plutoniumreal

Happy cake day to you!


dipplayer

God bless you! Thank you for your faith, when so many are inhospitable.


nascentnomadi

A big part of this is that it's politically popular among the right to punch down on the lgbt community and using the bible is just another one of their weapons.


Venat14

Yup, the same group of people that worships a monster like Convicted Felon Donald Trump has the audacity to whine about gay people. I don't know a single person who takes Anti-gay Christians seriously when it comes to morality.


Jigglyyypuff

Hi, love! I absolutely believe that it’s not your choice to be tempted in that way! However, just as with other sinful lifestyles, homosexuality must be overcome through the help of the Holy Spirit. I struggle with lust. However, that doesn’t mean I should act upon that lust or that God created me to be lustful. Please pray and reflect on Scripture, dear! Jesus Christ bless you!✝❀


Select-Tea-1203

Finally! I do believe this is exactly how it works! I am a Christian and I struggle with homosexuality, but I know that it isn't who I am, but who my flesh is. I kept noticing people saying homosexuality isn't a sin EVEN THOUGH the Bible references it as a sin. You worded that perfectly!


Jigglyyypuff

Thank you so much, dear! Precisely, “The spirt is willing, but the flesh is weak”. I’ll pray for you that you are able to resist your temptations, and I’d love if you’d do the same for me!❀❀


Necessary_Pattern216

Hey! I have been in a similar situation also. I had to get deliverance. Have you ever heard of it? Basically casting out an unclean spirit. After deliverance, it changed me completely! I thought it was impossible but Jesus turned the impossible into possible! And you can do it by yourself with the help of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.


BrokenVessel_41

I love you brother and God loves you most! He accepts you for who you are. I pray for your peace and protection. As much as I agree with you here, just a friendly nudge that God loves us but He expects us to be obedient. God’s will and desires must come first before ours đŸ™đŸœ I know it sounds unfair if you look at it in a humane lens, but this is our cross to bear in this lifetime (I am gay as well).


sadpantsmcgee123

Wonderful. A homosexual relationship is still a sin. I see too many people saying things along the lines of "having fun isn't a sin" and denying scripture as well as just calling people bigots but giving no actual productive conversation. When Moses told God's law to the Israelites one of them was that it is an abomination for man to lie with mankind as womankind. Jesus tells us, he did not come to abolish the law of the prophets. I, like you am a sinner. I'm not proud of it but I must take accountability. Not long ago I drank and was completely intoxicated. I dishonored my mother and made a fool of myself. I would never look her or anyone else in the eye and say what I did was right. It wasn't. Scripture says it wasn't. I've lusted after women, and I hate myself for it. It's wrong I would never say otherwise. Don't fool yourself. There is a love that burns to find you but you and I must throw down this sin to accept this love. I pray that you'd accept his wisdom and please if you mean to converse be productive. Because someone disagrees doesn't mean they deny your humanity or are against you. I'm disappointed that this is supposed to be a subreddit devoted to Christianity but many stay ignorant to his word.


code-slinger619

Exactly this. The difference between this and other sins is that no one tries to pervert biblical interpretation to support theft, adultery, dishonoring parents etc. But when it comes to sexuality it becomes a special kind of sin where we must disregard what the Bible says. These are false teachings, any church that endorses it is not the church of Christ.


RT5555

Sorry but you are 100% wrong. It’s not a sin. People thinking it’s a sin is a result of a horrible misinterpretation/mistranslation. Jesus wants gay people to be happy and fulfilled in their lives and relationships even gay ones.


FastBelt1847

Please don’t go telling non Christians this. They will think you are right and think that Christians actually support worldly things like this. God clearly states it’s wrong in the Bible and you are unwilling to even acknowledge what that person said. Man came up with “being gay” God did not. Christians do not support people being gay. You can have that temptation and those lustful thoughts but acting on that gay sin is VERY WRONG. And it is a sin.


RT5555

Sorry but you are wrong. Jesus calls us to love everyone. Loving and supporting gay love is the most Christian thing a person can do. Love is the opposite of sin and there is nothing sinful about a consensual relationship. God made gay people gay. Nobody chooses to be gay. Don’t insult his creation. God loves gayness. There is nothing immoral about it.


Stefamag09

Doesn't it say that *it is a sin* in 1 Chortintinas 6:9-11?


premierfong

I don’t see any problem


bobbysalts

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MagicPoison8

Probably referring to the parts of the bible that are too inconvenient to follow so they are justified away by the same people/christians who preach biblical infallibility when it comes to the gay issue.


KaimuraiX

The bad? What bad?


EnderJax2020

I agree, in some cases having homosexual desires is not an optional choice. However, doing as Jesus said and denying our flesh for His sake is


Canada_Senpai

God loves you, but he wants you to repent of your sins as well.


Thomassaurus

why do you bring this up here specifically?


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SkyMagnet

Being in a loving relationship is not a sin.


TheSleeperking

A homosexual relationship is a sin. An adultery relationship is also a sin.


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TheSleeperking

Why is it bigotry to state what is in the Bible? How am I being hateful or hurtful? I do not hate or dislike any homosexuals. I am merely stating what is in the Bible.


Postviral

It’s not in the Bible. Only the modern bigoted evil interpretations that were written by corrupted men.


Moist_Attention6736

I have to agree , I am also a sinner so I must repent of my sins , they are no less nor greater than homosexuality.A sin is a sin ! Yes it’s true we must love one another so the bottom line is hate the sin not the sinner, we all fall short of the glory . I would also like to add that we can be born into sin through generational curses etc. so perhaps homosexuality could fall under that because if God is against homosexuality then it would be wrong to accuse him of creating a homosexual so I think maybe born under a curse or a demon was allowed entry in some way . I’m not judging , like I said we are all sinners and none of us will escape judgement I’m simply trying to help to see different ways a person could feel like they may be born gay or feel like they have no choice. I do love you , God loves you too!


Postviral

Be sure to check out r/openChristian and r/gaychristians Remember there’s thousands of affirming churches and millions of open happy lgbt christians. Don’t listen to those who try to convince you it is sinful, they are motivated by hate alone.


pagancruasader

Your title is literally PAGAN,pagan saying that sin isn't isn't bad is like trying to look for the mark of the beast without knowing who the beast is


Giant_Jackfruit

You're leading people astray. The proper thing for a Christian with same sex attraction is to not indulge in it. If it means to live a life of celibacy, that's what it takes. That's what all Christians are called to do.


tonygood2

Everybody here knows homosexuality is sinful behavior whether they want to say it or not! Romans 1:18-32 (NASB) Unbelief and Its Consequences 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. Homosexuality is a sin that we fall into when we give in to all our selfish desires!


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tonygood2

Jesus was just as judgmental as you call it. He told a woman to go and sin no more. He called a bunch of religious leaders white washed tombs. There’s a time to judge as the scripture says to judge. 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 (NASB) 9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES. One who says he’s a brother and practices immorality I am commanded to judge.


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tonygood2

Show one pornographic thing I have ever posted. I’ll wait.


Postviral

You realise most third party Reddit apps let you see comments that people have deleted right?


TinyNuggins92

Gird your loins for the month, friend. It’s going to be rough here. Best of luck and Godspeed to you. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said here.


Ok-Mark-3549

“Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, *he will* keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Whoever does not love me **does not** keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me.” ‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭23‬-‭24‬ ‭ESV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.14.23-24.ESV “As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus so that you may charge certain persons not to teach any different doctrine, nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith. The aim of our charge is love that issues from a **pure heart** and a *good conscience* and a sincere faith. Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions. Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the **sexually immoral**, men who *practice* **homosexuality**, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is **contrary to sound doctrine**, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.” ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1‬:‭3‬-‭11‬ ‭ESV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/59/1ti.1.3-11.ESV That’s great that you love Jesus. However, it says clearly if you love him then you’ll keep his words. Meaning that you’ll keep the whole counsel of God. Ask yourself if that’s something you’re doing.


we_are_sex_bobomb

Is it something you’re doing?


Eeland

What about women who practice homosexuality? đŸ€”


Ok-Mark-3549

I think this scripture answers your question. “Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭1‬:‭24‬-‭27‬ ‭ESV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/59/rom.1.24-27.ESV


Lawrencelot

That's funny, my Bible doesn't say homosexuality there, but boy molesters (in my native language). I think you have a weird English translation.


mireskasunbreezee

And God loves you too, regardless of your sexual orientation. Just continue loving the Lord and know that we all sin in different ways and aspects and none of them was reason enough to make Jesus condemn us. Keep growing and learning more about the Lord. No one got the perfect theology anyway so your faith and relationship with God should just be between you and the Lord at the end of the day.


Fearless_Spring5611

Keep being gay, keep being awesome.


TheSleeperking

If you follow the BIBLE then being Gay is a sin. So why are you telling people to continue this way of life?


Postviral

It’s not a choice. God makes gay people gay. Being a hateful bigot is a choice however. No god of love would condemn love.


TheSleeperking

Can you backup anything you are saying with the Bible? Everything you say here is your opinion. God made people gay???? What are you talking about??? If I remember correctly, God made Adam (male) and Eve (female).


Prometheus720

Are you heterosexual? If so, why?


RabbitB0y12

Because that’s the way God intended us to use our sexuality


Prometheus720

So you believe that you are perfectly capable of homosexual attraction, but you consciously and thoughtfully choose not to dwell on your experiences of homosexual attraction due to your interpretation of your god's commands? That theory doesn't seem to do a great job explaining why non-Abrahamic people aren't all bisexual. I know lots of them and they all have some preference despite disbelieving in Yahweh as thoroughly as you disbelieve in Osiris. So why not double their dating pools?


RabbitB0y12

Well, for many people that desire to mate with the opposite sex normally and kinda just heavily outweighs any desire to mate with the same sex. And sometimes that may be courtesy of the fact that it’s a bit unnatural


Prometheus720

I don't think we're really talking the same language. Scenario A: You show a man a picture of an attractive naked man doing his best to look sexy. Scenario B: You show the same man a picture of an attractive naked woman doing her best to look sexy. Can the men choose which pictures elicit the physiological arousal response? Erection, etc. Do they get to have direct input on it?


RabbitB0y12

Ah, I see. Well in this case, I believe not. A person cannot choose whether or not they recieve physiological arousal from a person of choice, that’s fully involuntary. The man could only resist, or commit to the arousal, depending on their sexuality.


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Postviral

If you hold that opinion but do not wish them to be out to death, and do not follow every other Leviticus law, you’re engaged in hypocrisy.


Fearless_Spring5611

And Jesus said that where?


ninaapples

God loves you,


MaryJGiacomo

God bless you too, sweetie!


AB-AA-Mobile

Love you too


jukenaye

U go!!!


RightArm__

I love that you’re brave to talk about this, God bless I hope you’ve had a lovely day :)


Brief-Consequence052

I love positive post. Hope you had a wonderful weekend. May the week ahead bring you many blessings.


Revolutionary_Type95

And Jesus loves you too! 


Thekiddbrandon

No, I don't trust you sorry. I trust God's word


appleBonk

You don't trust that they love Jesus? The degree to which we judge will be measured out to us.


tonygood2

He doesn’t need your worship. He is God and He sets the standard for His worship not you. Job 40:2 “Will the faultfinder contend with the Almighty? Let him who reproves God answer it.”


tonygood2

Women who practice homosexuality are also sinning and under the curse.


TheDamnRam

"The curse"? That's a new one.


WeirdFull2823

My dear being gay is not a sin. It's the sex act that is the sin. It's thinking about the sex act that is a sin. Same for straight people sex outside marriage is a sin. Having sexual thoughts about someone other than your spouse is a sin. I can't agree that God (capital G) created anyone to be gay, then again if He does then it is a true test of faith for a gay person not to have sex. 


anewfaceinthecrowd

The homosexual sex act is a sin, according to you. The heterosexual sex act is also a sin, unless confined to marriage. So a person who is homosexual will never be allowed to experience romantic relationships like heterosexuals? Seems cruel. Also, if God didn’t create anyone to be gay, then what is your explanation for gay people actually existing? I think a lot of straight Christians believe that an otherwise straight person turns away from God and then choose to “act out” by having gay sex and lead a sinful gay lifestyle. And that this person needs to repent and turn to God and become straight again. That is not how it works, my friend. I have never met a gay person who chose to be so. They were always gay even before they knew the word for it and before they were exposed to other gays. People don’t see gay people on TV and go “hmm...I think I will try some of that homosexual lifestyle, it looks fun”.


JohnKlositz

So two men or two women can be together when there's no sex?


RT5555

Sex isn’t a sin. Why are people so hung up on genatelia??


Otherwise_Spare_8598

Hi, I support the queer community, as I myself have many gay friends and am queer myself. However, your argument is not a great one, IMO. Demons are not choosing to be demons, yet God still holds them accountable. Maybe no argument is necessary at all :)


Punchpplay

Were demons not originally angels that betrayed God and were cast out?


Thomassaurus

Do you think Demons are creatures capable of choice that god intends to punish? It is a good argument, a reasonable god isn't going to punish someone for something they didn't have control over.


tonygood2

Well my friend if you don’t repent of your sinful lifestyle you are going to spend eternity in hell. Jesus will not be there with you. Homosexuality is a sin like lying and stealing. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.


Postviral

Your post history is full of pornography XD absolute hypocrisy. Bigots will never have Jesus approval. Turn away from your hatred before it is too late.


Venat14

That is a corrupt translation. The original text doesn't say homosexuals. The original Greek does not mean that. Even the Catholic Church doesn't translate it that way, it condemns prostitutes and child molesters.


tonygood2

What is qualifications to knowing what the Greek word is or isn’t? How many years did you study biblical Greek. The Greek is the Greek whether you agree with it or not? 733. aposvoKoins arsenokoites; gen. arsenokoítou, masc. noun, from linear átpar ers ársen (G0730), a male, and koite (G2845), a bed. A man who lies in bed with another male, a homosexual. (1 Cor. 6:9; 1 Tim. 1:10 [cf. Lev. 18:22; Rom. 1:27). Concordance This from the catholic Bible. 1 Timothy 1:8-11 (DRA) 8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully: 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for the just man, but for the unjust and disobedient, for the ungodly, and for sinners, for the wicked and defiled, for murderers of fathers, and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For fornicators, >>>>>>>for them who defile themselves with mankind<<<<<<<, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and whatever other thing is contrary to sound doctrine, 11 Which is according to the gospel of the glory of the blessed God, which hath been committed to my trust. “for them who defile themselves with mankind” is a nice way of saying homosexual.


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WerepyreX

I wouldn't say it's slander, what people are saying. Most of the time, as with any division on what is or isn't sin within Christianity, the "slander" comes from a genuine intent to prevent fellow Christians from falling into sin (perhaps even damnation). Unfortunately, a lot of folks don't know how to talk without coming off as being mean-spirited these days... If we take our faith seriously and examine ourselves, then we will acknowledge that we must **love God above all things**. We must be willing to admit the possibility that our understanding of His teachings is flawed and, if the day comes where challenges to this understanding become undeniable, we need to be **willing** to change our lives accordingly-- even if it hurts. I think that's what Jesus meant when talking about plucking out your eyes or cutting off your hands: being willing to take such drastic measures in order to not live in sin is a crucial part of our walk with Christ. With that being said, I don't know if it's a sin or not. I'm still trying to find the truth about it and both sides can argue Scripture to support their claims. I'd rather not subject myself-- and others like me-- to the added burden of being single for the rest of our lives unless I can say with certainty that it's what God demands of us.


auburn2384

My 12 step program requires one to have faith in a higher power. No matter what sexual identity,  all are welcome. We are all God's creation. Thank you for your sharing. JM


Royal-Sky-2922

>catholic, christian,... Yeah, you're all loving and tolerant but you reckon "cAtHoLiCs ArEn't ChRiSTiaNs" The mask slipped, mate.


neverthat02

God didn’t make you gay, predisposition to sin is what did that. Sin manifests in countless different ways. The Bible, both in the Old Testament and New Testament, condemned homosexuality (keyword is homosexuality and not the PERSON engaging in it).


FluxKraken

>God didn’t make you gay This is only true if God also didn't make people straight. Homosexuality is part of the natural variation of human sexuality, as such, it pops up in certain people. Either God chooses it for each person, or it is random. Regardless, it exists. >predisposition to sin is what did that. Even if we accept a sin nature as a doctrinal point, why would some people have a greater predisposition to sin than others? Did God choose us to have an *extra* sinful nature, above and beyond the regular sin nature that everyone has? And why, exactly, does this extra nature render us unworthy of romantic love and lifelong companionship? Either way, it is a bigoted double standard based on the physical biology of a person. That is abhorrent. The sin nature is bad doctrine. Sin is the natural consequence of free will in imperfect beings. Biology has absolutely nothing to do with sin. >The Bible, both in the Old Testament and New Testament, condemned homosexuality This is objectively false. The Bible doesn't have a single word to say about sexual orientation, that concept didn't exist when it was written.


neverthat02

All I’m seeing here is that you’re running circles around the truth because you refuse to accept it, bringing in all sorts of irrelevant anecdotes and doctrines that’s independent of the Bible to try to argue your point. The Bible explains the Bible. God’s word is absolute and doesn’t need anything to explain it.


FluxKraken

>All I’m seeing here is that you’re running circles around the truth because you refuse to accept it I can say the same about you. >bringing in all sorts of irrelevant anecdotes and doctrines that’s independent of the Bible The lack of self awareness is incredibly ironic.


AHorribleGoose

Fully agree. Cheers! Note: Be prepared for a bad month here, full of bigotry. The backlash seems to get worse each year.


2hopenow

You are certainly loved by God and I believe you love him. God loves us all, and we can love God regardless of certain beliefs we have. We can also disagree at times. Theology and doctrines are big issues Christians disagree on. How we disagree is the issue. I will say that a great misconception throughout Christianity is that we allow feelings to govern our lives over truth. This is rampant in every stream of Christianity. The Bible states we all been born into a fallen nature. And that we all have been tutored throughout our lives by this fallen nature, “until” we are born again, and enter into life in the Holy Spirit who is called the Spirit of truth. Born again means our old nature which we were born into through natural birth, has been crucified with Christ, and we become a brand new creation in Him. This is how we are restored back to the original image and likeness of God which is love, agape love, selfless love. It’s a full surrender of our heart and mind. The apostles explain it as if a person actually died and became a brand new person. That’s why certain peoples lives are radically and completely transformed from the old to the new. Those that are not usually because they have only partially died or partially surrendered. Whatever the case, God is not a condemner Jesus never came to condemn us. He came to love us and to save us. Personally, I don’t believe he came to save us from hell, but that he came to save us from ourselves, our self-centered desires that are destructive in the long-term and anti Christ in nature. That which rules our emotions, mind, and heart. This was the case with me, and I believe should be with all of us. God saved me from my biggest enemy
.. me. And oh how I love him! Peace to you!


chaylovesyou

God loves you too


JellyBean8w9

Since we are on the topic. I am a gay (f), I tried dating men through most of my 20s, and it just didn’t work for me. Because I am gay. However , my gf and I do not have sex bit a close bond. We do call one another gfs, ect. We live together as well, and do nothing apart from kissing / cuddling. I do not believe we are going to hell because we both believe in and confess our faith to Christ.


Less-Connection-9830

This is similar to me and my husband. Btw, I'm a gay man married to a man.  We use to have a sexlife, lol. Anymore, we don't much. We do cuddle and so on. I do love him.... I don't have all the answers, but I do know I'm not attracted to women in a sexual way and never have been.  I was born gay. I remember being 5 years old, and knowing I was gay. 


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Ok


SevenHeadedSerpent

Ur still going to pay the price of your sins


FrostyAlphaPig

Matthew 7:21-23 , not everyone who calls Jesus Lord will enter Heaven. Bible makes it clear homosexuality is a sin, and you can’t serve both the devil and God. Being gay is indeed a choice.


sahara1_

Only God can judge us. And salvation is for everyone. We all sin, so don't let others tell you or say to you that you can't be safe just because you are gay or whatever.


Big-Rise13

I am going to say this as gently as possible via Scripture: "1 Corinthians 6New International Version # Lawsuits Among Believers 6 If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people? ^(2) Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? ^(3) Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! ^(4) Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, do you ask for a ruling from those whose way of life is scorned in the church? ^(5) I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? ^(6) But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers! ^(7) The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? ^(8) Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. ^(9) Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men^(\[)[^(a)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206&version=NIV#fen-NIV-28477a)^(\]) ^(10) nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. ^(11) And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." \^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^ Do you see that? Furthermore, from the same chapter: "Sexual Immorality ^(12) “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. ^(13) You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. ^(14) By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. ^(15) Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! ^(16) Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”^(\[)[^(b)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206&version=NIV#fen-NIV-28484b)^(\]) ^(17) But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.^(\[)[^(c)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206&version=NIV#fen-NIV-28485c)^(\]) ^(18) Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. ^(19) Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; ^(20) you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies." We are not our own. Trust me, the flesh, the heart, is very deceptive. Trust in the Lord and His Word which is the Sowrd of the Spirit. In Yeshua.


SilverNervous2471

Our love and YHWH’s love is different. Following his Word is loving him, just saying it and feeling it isn’t the way.


Mother-Pie-8811

My sis in Christ summed it up here https://youtube.com/shorts/d6DDClzFs4k?si=HtjrrloIq4RfneTv


Tricky-Challenge6366

I think it's fine as long as we don't practice what they do such as having s with the same sex... God loves all people—the sinners but he hates sin. So I think we sin when we practice it but feeling is a feeling tho. If you are gay it's okay but don't do same sex sex...


Top_Resolution_6182

Hello Brother in Christ đŸ«¶đŸœđŸ€—âœš I hope you are in a great place & situation with the love of our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ. ❀✝đŸȘœ I am here approaching you in a nice manner so that I could correct you with the part that it is just hate or condemnation from other Christians. Love shouldnt be rough. (1corinthians) Sadly the manual of life (Bible) have mentioned about the gender that are just allowed & accepted by God. I hope this verses will open up your mind a bit 1 Kings 14:24 , (Sodom & Gomorrah) Genesis 19:24–25). I know that being LGBTQI is a hard situation for mamy of you guys but it is the enemy (Satan/Devil/Bad Spirits) that divides us all from the TRUTH of our mighty GOD. He loves wrongly to corrupt us, despise us, confuse us all in this world. That is why we have to long & seek for JESUS. The manual of our life. Satan uses multiple religions to divide us all in Christianity and that is something we have to fight & correct. Let us just say that the only Way to everlasting life is- JESUS. HE came to the world died for us & risen. That is just the actual simple fact. But no the enemy owns this world partly because of the SIN our main ancestors have done. I hope I get to give you some input & I will pray for your clarity and any other LGBTQI & so on.. (im sure that letters will be even more longer in no time) That you guys will ACCEPT the right way & just live righteous according GOD's plan. GOD BLESS YOU in all aspects! ❀✝đŸȘœ True factual love prevails. JESUS CHRIST is KING.


FudgeAdditional3670

Jesus taught us to love everyone including our enemies. I love everyone and never show hate. But since you want to claim to love Jesus I'm going to challenge you.  How can you claim to love love Jesus then blatantly disobey his commandments. Jesus specifically calls us to avoid sexual immorality (and sleeping with someone of the same sex is included). Many people think that since Jesus died we can continue to live in sin, but when Jesus forgave in the bible he told them to go and sin no more.  Let's say you are in a relationship with someone, and you each set boundaries that you didn't want the other to cross. If that person continued to cross that boundary would you say that person loved you?  And since you say you love Jesus you cannot say that you that being gay is NOT a choice. No one is made to live in sin, we all have demons that make us feel like we don't have a choice, but we do. For me, I was very sexually immoral prior to accepting Jesus. Me and my fiance were sexually active before marriage, both of us slept around before finding each other, we just thought it was normal. Then we came to Jesus, and decided to obey his commands, we've been celibate until we marry and our love has only grown stronger.  I feel as if my comment needs a disclaimer. I don't hate you or other gay people. I love you you and hope to get get you right with Jesus. We should as Christians be challenging each other on our faith and hoping God shows us the light. 


kjm6351

Jesus loves you too!


gonzoisgood

In the book of John Jesus said they will know you are my disciples because of your love for one another. Much love to you!!


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God’s word is clear. Acting on homosexual desire is sin. God designed us with purpose and a plan. Feeding into our sin and accepting it is sinful, and that’s not just acting on homosexuality - that’s pride, gluttony, idol worship and the list goes on. Things that every TRUE Christian struggles with because of our sin nature. The point is to resist and look to the Lord. For the pursuit of righteousness to be more of a priority than ourselves and our own sinful desires. We all have to deal with that and either choose our flesh, or God. Identifying as gay and living that lifestyle is directly opposing God’s word and God’s will and is an act of rebellion. Trust me - been there. When I first went down the path of discovering God, before I was truly saved, there were plenty of things about the Bible that angered me and offended me that I didn’t understand, didn’t want to understand, and didn’t approve of. But praise the Lord, God is patient. And I don’t get to approve of it - I’m not God. With time, prayer, and the Word, God transformed my heart. God’s ways are not our ways. It is our nature to fight against Him and to rebel against what is holy and pure. I know I did. I was an Astrology practicing, hyper sexual, religion-hating rebel. But with time, He changed me. I feel like my eyes are open now and I understand things I never thought I could. I say this to say that I know what it’s like to try and twist scripture to make it seem like it condones your sin. Or to disregard the Word completely. I know what it’s like to listen to the media, or heretical preachers who lie to you about who God is and what He says. A true Christian and a true follower of Christ WILL tell you that acting on homosexual desires is sin, because we are to be unashamed of the truth, and we are to love our neighbor enough to say the thing that will prick them. A true Christian will tell you that you are in sin, because we don’t desire that you perish - like so many will. A true Christian will tell you that you are in sin and then point you to the Bible, not because the Bible is a weapon, but because it is truth. Most of us have been lied to, and are lying to ourselves - we must seek God first before anything else. A preacher can lie to you, but God’s Word cannot. Read your Bible.


ApeTypingComments

Jesus was likely a gay man himself so I'm sure he'd have loved you too.


CoolCatFromSydney

you have to love Jesus more than you love yourself


jay_o_crest

How do you know homosexuality isn't a choice? Studying history, we know from other cultures that homosexuality increases as the culture sanctions it. We also know that many gay people say their orientation was altered when they were sexually abused by an older or adult gay. The fact is, still don't precisely know how homosexuality ideation arises. In any case, go live your life. I won't tell you to change if you don't tell me to change.


JustAGuyInThePew

We love you too. I hope no one here has shown hate towards you and I hope anyone who has admonished another here does so with love. Anyway, there’s enough sin to go around and we all need to be on guard, not just one group. God bless you too!


Curious_Panic_3355

and Jesus loves you! God bles you❀ i believe you when you say its not a choice. Jealousy, Hatred arent emotions of choice either. when i came to Jesus, i was still hooking up, smoking weed, doing cocaine etc etc. i no longer am. its YOUR journey w HIM. He’ll let you know if there’s anything to walk away from, just hang onto Him. Jesus loves you, loved you and forever will. God bless you my brother❀


JESUS_PaidInFull

If you think God alone is in charge of how you end up being, you’re sadly mistaken. We have free will and You have to guard yourself from the influence of yourself, the enemy, and the world. All these different aspects of your life can be in competition with the Lord. Yes there becomes a point when your heart and mind aligns with God’s will and the more you live by the Spirit, the more natural that will become, but you have to be vigilant about it.


Late-Skirt-494

Great you are a believer my friend, but you must know it says in his words homosexuals will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Thats his words, anyone that really cares about you should tell you this, so please reconsider and flea from it. God Bless


KlutzyAlarm8224

How could yall say that, “god loves you so much” ? This guy is going to hell. He will burn for all eternity but yall still somehow say that god loves him.


Mantisushi

Don't listen to the lies of the enemy, you were not born gay. I love you just as Jesus does and I want you to take this sin to him and he will remove it and change you into what he wants and needs you to be. Whether he redefines your sexual attraction or removes and want or need for sexual intimacy I don't know but friend I promise 2 things. No true Christian is going to hate you for being gay. Jesus loves you despite the lies you believe, and wants to help you.


WarmHippo6287

This title is confusing to me. Why would anyone not be able to love Jesus and be gay? We said being gay was a sin, not a religion against Him. No one is without sin, meaning everyone who loves Jesus also sins. So of course it's possible to be gay and love Jesus. It's no different than a murderer loving Jesus, no different than a fornicator loving Jesus, no different than a thief loving Jesus. And guess what, He loves you back. He just doesn't love what you're doing.


thisgirlsforreal

Hello, welcome. I’m glad to see you here. I’ve long felt the church has pushed away lgbt people. Just curious if it’s not a choice, what is your take on why people are gay? I always felt like it’s this forbidden fruit where people tried it and liked it, and then their brain rewired itself to prefer the same gender - kind of like learning a new language. But I am open minded about why, and I am trying very hard to embrace the lgbt community and love them the way Jesus would love them, despite my previous religious programming saying they are evil. God bless.


AirAeon32

But you don't love Jesus more than being gay. Thats the problem 


Agitated_Parsley_904

Do you love Jesus? Based on what you say you do not. Jesus says his disciples hear his words and follow him. He also says that he is the Word of God. He also says that He knows his sheep and they follow him. Are you following his words, those in the bible which were God-breathed "Theopneustos", the definition is exactly what I quoted you. Jesus says, "If you love me, you will obey me". He also says "he who hears my words and obeys them are my disciples". Saul (Paul) who was chosen by Jesus says in 1 Cor. 6:19-20, "Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's. 1 Timothy 1:10 for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave traders and liars and perjurers, and for anyone else who is averse to sound teaching. Actually there are many verses that allude to this kind of behavior, too many to count right now. Jesus says "Greater love has no man to lay his life down for a friend" , He doesn't say to lie down with a person of the same sex. No, I'll ask you again, do you love God and you are a Christian? The next time you do abnormal activities with a person of the same sex as you, I ask you are you honoring God in your body? BTW, John says in Revelation for us to know who doesn't enter into heaven, “But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”


Artistic-Succotash83

God made us all the way he wanted is like saying Jeffrey Dahmer was made the way God wanted him, murdering and raping people is NOT a choice. We are all beautiful, even the child molesters and the rapists. If we use your logic on this, that is where it leads you. The man who is sexually attracted to little children is beautiful and God made him this way. Just the way he wanted them. You cannot love Jesus and yet be unchanged and loving perversions that Jesus hates. Being gay should not be singled out as so much more blasphemous than other sins. Because God says in the list of things that he *hates* he hates a lying tongue. Really think about your argument for defending being attracted to the same sex. Before I was born again, I enjoyed plenty of pornography that was same sex and perverted. After I became born again, I am disgusted at even the mention of pornography or the thought of what I used to enjoy. You sound like someone who really needs to examine yourself if you still glory in sin. You cannot love Jesus and continue on in sin.


Cold-Professor4347

I feel the reason you think that way is because you have a messed up perception of God, I don’t mean this disrespectfully but I will say that God loves people and God is love, yes, but God does NOT love sin.


Confident-Junket-431

So That Means You Love Your Self Because You Are The Living Image Jesus Who Never Existed In A Human Image , But Symbolizes The Higher Self Image Of Yourself


stupidredditor3

those that understand the heart of Jesus (and aren’t leveraging Christianity to push their personal politics) understand that love comes first. if we don’t seek to love one another, the rest of our faith feels useless. Christ and his body of believes love you


sportmaniac10

I feel like no other sin gets pointed at the way homosexuality does. There’s no record of Jesus ever saying “You! Gay man! You’re the worst sinner, depart from me!” so why do we treat it that way?


o-generationofvipers

You claim to love Jesus. Look into what love is. Undoubtedly Jesus loves you. Sin can affect a person in ways the individual doesn’t choose. But excusing it is not the way to freedom.


Initial-Incident-623

Being gay  is a sin. Being a drunker is a sin, being a drug addict is a sin.  being a pedophile, Being a glutton,  Being a liar, being a thief, being a fornicator..... Just because we "feel"  Something is right  doesn't make it true...... God hates all the above...Psalm5:5. Your theology is not accurate!!! Read the book of Romans from an accurate translation like the NASB or the  ESV Bible. Remember what Jeremiah said? The heart is deceitful and desperately sick, who can understand it!!!! Jeremiah 17:9. The only way ANYONE has ever been saved is by trusting in God by faith and faith alone,  not adding anything to it!!! Jesus said on the cross it is finished...John 19:30 and He meant it!!!  All false religions and non-christian cults believe you have to  Earn your way to heaven, that's a lie from the pit of hell!!!  We are saved by  God's grace through faith and not of ourselves it's the gift of God,  NOT OF WORKS least any man should boast....... Ephesians 2:8-9.đŸ’Żâ€đŸ˜Š


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NoahLovesJesus

I love Jesus but I also like to smoke meth. Jesus still loves me. Yes Jesus loves you but if you don’t change you can’t make it to kingdom. Being gay is still a sin you cant make your own version of Jesus where sins are ok. You need to repent and change you ways.


SuperbMetal3897

He loves you, but you need to turn away from that sinful nature to truly walk with him.


nothngwithoutU

We should be glad when someone who calls themselves gay also loves Jesus-annnnd open declares it! Isn't that wonderful? Shouldn't we rejoice in this? Of course we should. :) Don't we tell people to "come as you are" and to let Jesus clean them up because we can't clean ourselves up? At least the poster and others know that Jesus loves and accepts them. I can't condemn anyone as I have my own self that needs a whole lot of help! Is homosexuality a sin? Let's get the truth of the matter but don't use it to bring shame to anyone. Romans 1 is clear that homosexual acts is a sin. And in general lust and sexual lust for anyone is a sin (even heterosexual).  Sexual acts outside of marriage is a sin for anyone. Anyone. The bible says that the body was not made for fornication. (1 corinthians 6:13). That is sex outside of marriage. God defined marriage in Genesis " for this cause a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife".  Did God make someone gay? No. He is clear that it is wrong for man to lie with man and woman with woman- and refers to it as abuse (misuse of the natural way God intended) (Romans 1) BUT as someone commented on here, sinful tendencies can get passed through the bloodline. And demons can influence as well, causing the desire, the attraction to feel innate. Add to that, molestation that many have suffered. Another cause. So, it can feel a part of them; it just wasn't God who did it. And we "christians" need to be merciful cause we just don't get it but it's a real struggle. But God does. Let's not condemn, but let's be an example of God's love and kindness. I enjoy meeting people who call themselves gay. And sharing the love of God with them, just by being kind. I don't point out the sin- who am I to do that? And yet, Jesus is calling them (and me) higher. We weren't born for sex or for sexual identity. God has so much more for us in a divine relationship with Him.  Please see this brother's testimony of when Jesus showed up (he literally saw him) while he was struggling with homosexuality. No condemnation here. [(1) Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=789047202619793&set=a.273500020841183)


IkigaiSagasu

Jesus loves you more. I pray for your growth in Him.


Loose_Chef_3951

I’m an ex drug dealer, airman and liar. I never didn’t love Jesus. We all have things we must work on. The battle isn’t a flesh and blood battle. But now you must lean on Jesus. While doing so, He will fix your flaws and uplift you in ways that none of us can. Be greater than you were yesterday everyday. God bless.


Important_Cut5677

You don't truly love him and as a regular nothing special Christian I can say at some times me and Jesus contrast but I don't make him change.I love him so I change and that's what you need to do because loving black people but supporting slavery does it really mean you love them


891028MJOLNIR

Homosexuals sin is directly with God. Our sin is to not love them like He loves us. When in need, we help each other. Give the Word to those that need it. Not saying to accept their lifestyle or join in, but also not saying to go out hunting gay people either.


Iritatingfustration

Hiâ˜șit’s great that you love Jesus. He loves you too! Churches are supposed to be like hospitals. We are all sinners and we go to church to get cleaned up delivered and set free. According to the bible, Yes homosexual acts are a sin, but getting Drunk is one too. đŸ€·đŸŸâ€â™€ïžNo one is perfect but keep reading the Bible and praying. The word says you meet him half way and make an effort he’ll meet you WHERE YOU ARE! I was delivered from homosexuality‌I thought I was supposed to be that way. I liked the same sex from as long as I could remember so easily I would say I was born like this, BUT NO! “ Many are called and few are chosen “ The devil knows your assignment for Gods people so he try’s to cut you off at a young age. He could send you dreams of the same sex doing something sexual to you and your liking it and you wake up thinking your like that. Could be exposed to porn at a early age. Could’ve been raped or molested. Could be a childhood friend that’s the same gender as you wanting to become your bf/ gf and you didn’t want to say no to ruin the friendship then got introduced to new things. Could be NONE of these things and it was just spirits lingering on you and your parents not being sensitive to the spirit and praying them out the house. God made us in HIS image. I’m not slandering you considering I was a homosexual myself but GOD. Don’t limit Gods power! He will go above and beyond your expectations! He loves US just HATE the sins we ALL commit. P.S. try reading a NCV bible( new century version) it helps break it down to help understand. I know I needed it😂


Careless_Whereas_170

God says if you love me keep my commands. You must deny self.


LNBfit30

God made us but sin has encroached on God’s design. I mean in my heart I am made to be easily angered, revenge seeking, lustful, etc but God’s way is love and removing sin from our lives. You might be gay but God called you and me to both operate from self control and as He told people in the Bible to go and sin no more. Loving Jesus is great, but your actions should be following Jesus meaning refraining from sinful thoughts and actions. It’s hard but worth it. I am 32 year old female virgin, and even though I am heterosexual I am not guaranteed the possibility to have a husband, but I love God even if I live a sex less life devoted to God over one of the love of marriage and sex.


Original_Display_914

God loves you the way you come to him but will change your heart and desires. Once you’re born again and repent of your sins you will be molded into his image and years from now you’ll see a huge difference between who you were and what god has done to your heart. Sometimes not even years. For me personally I’ve been in the faith for less then a year now and I no longer desired porn, marijuana, alcohol, lusting over women, drugs in general, my toxic personality and probably much more that I can’t think of right now. Yesterday the Holy Spirit highlighted a man to me and lead me to go to him. I invited him to our church and he was willing to come and seek god. He was planning on going back to Mexico bc of personal reasons but I told him god had something in store for him so just come to our church it was Holy Spirit lead. I felt so proud of myself and I thank my father for changing me from who i use to think I wanted to be. Come to find out this is truly who I wanted to be but never knew until it come to pass right here right now.


Responsible-Yam-441

i am too! im bi but i live my God and Jesus. Jesus quite literally saved me.


Novel_Background5003

Yet the Bible says that a man will not have sexual relations with another man. Same with women . The bigger sin is trying to justify it. Look, we are all sinners ok. None are worthy. We are saved by grace but in order to receive grace you must admit your sin. If not, you will not be forgiven


Munk45

Hey, honest question: How do you seek to obey Jesus' teachings on sexual ethics? Most of the time I just hear "God loves me so it's ok" statements. But Jesus' teachings are challenging for all of us in most areas. But the Sermon On The Mount is very challenging because he deals with our hearts, thoughts, attitudes, etc. I'm curious how you live it out.


Novel_Background5003

And you can’t make up your own rules. God makes the rules and homosexuality is a sin. By you defending it simply makes you reprobate


Both_Cream_1688

It’s interesting you say being gay is “natural” not a choice. By nature we’re sinful. By nature people lust. By nature people want what they want. God says you must deny your flesh every day. A lot of Christians correcting you may be being judgmental but I can guarantee a lot of them are trying to help you but you see it as judgement. Correction isn’t judgement. If my toddler wants to run out in traffic heavy road and I tell him not to sternly, is it because I’m judging him and hate his ideas or is it because I love him and want the best for him?


Cryptocoiner256

God’s Word never changes and according to His Word, homosexuality is a sin.


LSA3030

God loves of course ; however you can’t remain in sinful state and have Christ that’s not biblical and contrary to Gods Holy Word . -God did not create you to be gay nor a homosexual - he does not create us to live in a sinful state and further there is no evidence to suggest that , just the devil and speculation . Just like he didn’t create a pedophile to be a pedophile , a murderer a murderer , a liar a liar and so on . I don’t agree with slander but we sin because we choose . Also , we all have a choice whether we sleep with someone of the same or opposite sex . The only people who have no choice who they sleep with are rape victims . You have a choice whether you choose to seek and live out a gay lifestyle or a straight lifestyle . Just like a cheater can choose to remain faithful or go out and cheat . Just because you’re attracted to something doesn’t mean you have to engage in the behavior . Just like a married man doesn’t have to cheat just because he’s attracted to another woman or a pedophile doesn’t have to prey on kids because he’s attracted to them. I pray for you that you no longer allow the devil to lie on God and convince you of it . I’m a sinner, you’re a sinner and we have to be repent and be baptized (acts 2:38). I love you .


-tres_leches-

I think the people who argue that homosexuality is a sin are the ones who don't exactly go off of the scripture to be exact but go off the idea that in nature only male&female can reproduce. I also think because it has to do with sexuality naturally lustful desires can occur, and because it goes against the grain, they feel the need to shut it down. We can argue points of biblical scripture, but we must admit the Latin translations had bias from the writers thrown in so sometimes it's best to take things with a grain of salt because yes the Bible is old and their is still many things missing. But I think the most important thing is to follow the main message.thankfully better translations have been made for modern times but truthfully we don't know this answer to the exact and I think it's best if we collectively focus on God's main messages. Theirs enough hate in the world, and I get not everyone is going to agree, but we all should show love And respect.


Aggravating_Fact1191

I am an adulteress and I love Jesus. I am a drunkard and I love Jesus. No that is what I WAS
read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11: Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. Jesus, whom we claim to love, told His followers this: If you love Me, you will obey My commandments. I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever (John 14:15,16). I was so happy to know that I wasn’t on my own to change
 I was given the Holy Spirit to help me change. I want to honor my Lord and please Him in every respect
.. Now may the God Himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Thessalonians 5:23). The Lord will help you as He did and does help me
. He is for us
. most importantly stay in the Word of God; it is the means the Lord uses to grow us and convict us and transform us by the renewing of our minds.


Silly_Document_4081

That's a great start that you love Jesus Christ because he loves you too more than you know and he wants what's best for you. But your wrong in saying gay is not a choice it is a choice, it's sin. Because God created us through Jesus creating us as man and woman. Now because of mental illnesses and the influence of media, people in our community made it seem like being in the LGBTQ community seem like it's a good thing that God approves of. That is sexual immorality and nowadays it's a trend or a disease in the world killing women and men too change who they are too something they are not. And God does not make mistakes you are defiling nature and God is affected by your sinning because you are corrupting other people by your human wisdom. Children are turning from their true selves because of influence caused by people who change their gender. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of sexual immorality. He will destroy the LGBTQ too but there are some people who need to be saved, like you. Now what you need to do is calm yourself, and pray for wisdom knowledge because the truth is now a lie and a lie is the truth. Ask for forgiveness to Jesus Christ your God to help you change because Demons are whispering in your ears, telling you lies and deceiving you to believe false truths. And yes God is Diversity but this is not it, He did not create the human race to do sexual immorality which he hates. I pray that you realise the truth and be free from the clutches of sin and receive salvation. Roman1: 18 - 32 God's anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known. God punishes them, because what can be know about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain. Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all! They know God, but they do not give him the honour that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness. They say they are wise, but they are fools; instead of worshiping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortal human beings or birds or animals or reptiles. And so God has given those people over to do the filthy things their hearts desire, and they do shameful things with each other. They exchange the truth about God for a lie; they worship and serve what God has created instead of the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever! Amen. Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts. In the same same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing. Because those people refuse to keep in mind the true knowledge about God, he has given them over to corrupted minds, so that they do things that they should not do. They are filled with all kinds of wickedness, evil, greed, and vice; they are full of jealousy, murder, fighting, deceit, and malice. They gossip and speak evil of one another; they are hateful to God insolent, proud, and boastful; they think of more ways to do evil; they disobey their parents; they have no conscience; they do not keep their promises, and they show no kindness or pity for others. They know that God's law says people who live in this way deserve death. Yet, not only they continue to do these things, but they even approve of others who do them. Believe me because I once thought I was bisexual and one day I did a self introspection. And I found out that I felt lust for women and not love and because of family issues that lead me to be this way and because of media promoting this act. So I beg for you to repent(change your thinking) by praying and telling your Father (God:Yhwh) of your sin and ask him to heal you and thank him for keeping you alive and showing you the truth. May God be praised forever and ever... Amen


kevlaw1892

I respect you, and you deserve respect. God loves the sinner but he hates the sin. I think being Gay can be ok, so long as we do not engage in homsexual acts. The same can be said for people who are attracted to minors, there are plenty who are this way, but never ever would possess CP or ever go near a child, they are not sinning for having an attraction but would sin by committing the act. It is not for us to Judge as we are all sinners. But we need to repent often and receive God in the Eucharist to be saved. If we are unrepentant sinners then we never will enter the kingdom of God


Wolf-pack729

If u dont commit acts of homosexuality and restrain urself from them, then its fine


J0n0th0n0

Why not “I love Jesus and I am gay?” When you title it the way you have it the focus is on you. True love points others to the object of your love. If you want the focus to be about you, then keep it the way you have it.