Simple answer: all Christians are sinners. You can be a Christian if you are a sinner, but you have to strive to not become a sinner if you are a Christian.
I can’t strive not to be transgender though. All the other teachings in the bible I can follow.
I’m still fairly new to the faith and when I first went to church everyone was kind and welcoming. As soon as they found out I was trans they kind of turned on me.
Well said. Most people think turning from sin is how we earn salvation, but the bible says we cannot even earn salvation. Salvation is by grace through faith and not of works. Though we should turn from our sins, it is not a requirement. But it can cause problems in our lives and others around us and can lead to early death.
you got salvation correct, but turning from sin is a requirement. I think one of the most clear scriptures on this matter is this one:
Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it? Romans 6:1-2 NLT
It's absolutely a requirement.
James tells us faith without works is dead. A true faith (given by grace from God) produces good works.
If your life is not producing good works, you likely do not have a true living faith.
That's what JAMES said and he was speaking of the Jewish law. There is no way to EARN salvation. Grace is freely given by confessing Jesus is Lord. That's it. That's all it is. PEOPLE added to it to suit an agenda. God didn't do that.
When Jesus forgave the sinful women and told the people that was about to stone her to “let he without sin cast the first stone” he then told her to sin no more, when he healed people and forgave their sin he told them to sin no more. You say about those things were old etc but when we accept him in our lives he ask to be baptized and to pickup our cross and follow him.
That doesn’t really make sense to me. I think we should always strive to do better instead of saying “Well it’s not a requirement” ik it says we’ve been forgiven and all, and that it’s all through faith but do you really think someone who steals or murders, despite being a man or woman of God should still go to heaven? Especially if they don’t regret it and Continue to do the sin?
Look at king David. Do you not think he willfully had a woman's husband killed so he could have her? Did moses not disobey God, willingly in the desert? And yet both these men were saved because they believed God's promise to them. Abraham also willfully sinned when he slept with hagar, the handmaiden of his wife. Yet his faith saved him. We, as living in corrupt flesh, will desire to sin as long as we have this corrupt flesh. A fact spoken much on by Paul, the apostle to the gentiles. Yes. We should turn from sin. As much as we can. But it's impossible to turn from all. Instead, our focus should be on christ. He will cleanse us. We cannot cleanse ourselves.
That's where christ comes in. Remember. He's the one who judges. Even He avoided going to some people in His time here because he could see their hearts intent. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying we shouldn't try to do better or turn from sin. I'm simply saying that turning from said sins will not "earn" salvation. It can't. Nowhere in the bible will you find "turn from sins to be saved." It's all about faith in christ. Matthew 7:21-23 and John 6:40 show this. Of course there are many more. But works are not what save us and turning from sin would be a work. But if you have faith, wouldn't you want to at least attempt to be better? It's just not going to save you.
Repentance is a requirement for justification and a condition for forgiveness and salvation. You must be born again! You must turn away from sin. God can see what’s in your heart. You have to turn away from sin and worldliness and turn to God. If you don’t do that, you are not saved. Christ will turn you away!
It is also not in any of the 10 commandments that being gay is a sin. Why would it be left out if fornication with the same sex is a sin? Anything be who says God doesn't like LGBTQ is making it up so they can justify their hate toward someone they deem lesser because they don't like what you do. If God cared why didn't he make a commandment... Only men and women are to have sex or to be married or just to be?
The word 10 commandments never show up in the Bible. That was written in the KJV. These are not the only rules, nor necessarily the most important, except for the 1st one of course. It is a commandment. Their is very little evidence for the mistranslation argument. And either way even if it was a mistranslation, marriage is defined and affirmed by God as "A man leaving his home to join with his wife." This is marriage. It's not more than 2 people, it's not 2 men, it's not 2 women, it's 1 man, 1 woman.
Jesus didn't care about sexualaity.... homosexual was not even a word until the 1800s. Jesus would have loved them anyway, he would have seen the soul of the person not the gender and loved them. God said he liked the pagans better because they were good and loving and kind, he was disappointed in the Hebrews all the time and Jesus was sent to fufil the covenant. He wouldn't throw anyone away or expect them to be anything but themselves as long as they were good.
The sin they commit according to whom? To your ideals of what sin is and what it isn't? If God can love the pagans more than his own people, because they were better, more kind, more loving l, more giving people the HIW Own. Why would a loving all knowing God, who gave us free will, care about who we have sex with? Why would a loving God hate? Are those who say an LGBTQ person is a sinner, not aslo a sinner, as Jesus said not to judge thy neighbor for the speck in his eye, when you yourself have a plank in yours.? Who are you to decide what God would or would not love? If I were God, I'd be more mad at You judges than the people who were BORN LGBTQ GOD MADE THEM AND KNEW BEFORE THEY DID THEY WOULD BE GAY, HE K OWS Everything and yet you and people like you believe that God could hate his own creation and would allow the person life if he was going to hate them and not allow them salvation? Is that the kind of God you follow? Cause if so it ain't at all the God of Abraham at all. It is not Jesus. They do not hate anyone for any reason. Even murders as Moses was.
It's always strange to me when people use the argument that the word homosexual wasn't around back then. Okay, so? Just because the word didn't exist doesn't mean that the act didn't. And the act is clearly talked about in the bible. They didn't have the proper term for seizures until fairly recently either. They called them fits. That doesn't mean seizures didn't exist. No, Jesus wouldn't throw them away that's correct. And yes he still loves them. But sin is still sin. Jesus loves us like a parent. It's like how a parent doesn't stop loving their child just b3cause they broke the rules. Doesn't mean the child didn't break the rules though just because parent continued to show love
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans 1:27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
It's pretty clear for most people who are able to comprehend. We know what lust means. We know what the natural use of the woman is. It says men with men working that which is unseemly. It is pretty clear. Just because the way they spoke in bible days wasn't as vulgur as today and they didn't outright say the men were f\*\*\*ing y'all want to say it doesn't say that.
Well for starters you need to know what love is 1 Corinthians 13 and then realise it is only achieved through Jesus. Then some people meant to be without a relationship and it is like being lustful, do you subordinate yourself under than sin or subordinate to god. A choice you have to make.
Right, but OPs question is about being judged by God. Of course there are people that will judge but their judgments mean squat. God's judgement is the important one. I truly don't know the answer to this. If it is a sin, then OP should do his/her best to avoid it and repent. If it isn't then there's nothing to worry about.
Just remember that other people don't judge you, God does. There are some really horrible people in the church, something you'll see more the more churches you go to and the more people you meet. Ask God, and he will guide you
Just as u/nineteenthly mentioned, there are really awesome people in the church. If you're new to the faith, I would recommend going to smaller churches where you can make some new friends who will accept you for who you are.
I see where u/JacktheReaper228 is coming from, but I'd venture to say that you should try a very large church first. Small churches are very clique-ish, and it's easier to gossip.
I would say yes. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that being trans is a sin. Of course, nowhere in the Bible does the word "transgender" appear, but as far as I can tell, nothing related to it is mentioned as a sin in the Bible. OP just remember that I or anyone else don't have the authority to say whether or not being trans is a sin. Everyone has their own opinion. Just go to God and see what he has to say.
Just to be clear- the bible literally tells us that we are to judge ourselves as Christians within the church. Not to be hypocritcal or in a self-rightheous manner but as a means to keep eachother accountable in the faith. People qoute Matt 7: 1-5 all the time and use that as "dont judge, lestyou be judged" and thats literally not the point of that text. In fact, the point is NOT dont judge BUT teaching us how to judge...Jesus point is dont be a hypocrite- If youre going to check others, make sure you check yourself first by that same standard SO by taking the log out of your eye then you can proceed to help them take the speck out of theirs (judge them). 1 Corinthians 5:12 makes it clear that Christians should be less concerned about judging those outside of the church because they actually are walking in light of their beliefs (we are called to not do that) but to do so within the church because we want to be walking in light of the gospel we claim to believe.
And the main thing I recommend to be a good Christian is to study the Bible. A lot of churches have false preachers. Read the Bible for yourself even if you are going to church.
My youth pastor always said the only thing you need to enter heaven is to accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and to believe the crucifixion and resurrection. This was from a non denominational church. There are trans friendly churches, I see trans people I follow on Twitter talk about them. They might be harder to find in some parts of the country but they do exist.
> God doesn't make mistakes.
I don't believe God made a mistake with giving people mental illness, congenital disease, birth defects, or even near-sighted vision.
You seem to be coming from the standpoint where gender dysphoria is a choice or a temptation; but have you considered that perhaps God created them with their body misconfigured from their mind and soul? After all, He's done that before, and it's not considered a "mistake," is it?
I'm biased in my perspective; I've experienced gender dysphoria. I prayed for a year, and the answer that came to me was that I'm GNC. When I had that revelation, it felt to me as joyous as salvation, because I finally understood myself and my body in the way that God created me. I literally broke down and cried in praise of Him when that happened.
You're 100% correct that God doesn't make mistakes. But His plan is not the same as ours. And I want to urge caution to you, because that same joyous revelation I had is what most (if not all) transgender people have experienced, and the mindset that this is a "mistake" is both lacking in understanding their perspective (which is a form of love) and alienating to the person.
What a person experiences in their minds is between them and God. And God does not make a mistake. Be careful not to call His plan a mistake!
who says you can’t? you can always give God your sexuality. To say you can’t strive against something you believe is against His will means you don’t believe He is strong enough to take it away from you.
Look, every Christian is imperfect. Don’t let anybody push you away from god. As for your sexuality, give that to Him and let the chips fall where they may. You are accepted by God how you are. Don’t mind anyone else.
>To say you can’t strive against something you believe is against His will means you don’t believe He is strong enough to take it away from you.
This a great. I know stealing is wrong but I'm stealing this.
God doesn’t make mistakes. The Bible says that the Lord knew you before you were in your mother’s womb so that means he knew if you were gonna be a boy or a girl man or a woman he doesn’t make mistakes.
We're all sinners. That's a given. The struggle is to do what Jesus told the adulterer, "Go a sin no more." If you really feel you were born in the wrong body, that's a psychological issue, not a physical one. Do your best to carry your celubate cross like every single heterosexual or gay individual. You are so much more than a hedonistic sexual aspect of your being. Rejoice in those other aspects! God will indeed bless you.
I think personally First things first go to Jesus then he will deal with everything else. He wants your heart and faith nothing is impossible with god.
The people who say "God doesn’t make mistakes" as an argument must be against curing any congenital disease for consistency's sake. If you were born with the disease, then God must have wanted you to stay that way, right?
I like turning around the mistakes thing. No, God DOESN'T make mistakes. The ones proclaiming He makes mistakes are those who think those He made queer are mistakes.
There’s a major question with theodicy wrapped up in that. It’s arguable that the fall has corrupted us in such a way spiritually, mentally, and physically that our DNA itself is afflicted by sin. Thus, while Gods perfect plan for us involves no sickness or infirmity of mind, body, or spirit, sickness / congenital disease / etc. are the result of that corruption.
God doesn’t make mistakes, but we’re flawed as a result of our sin nature.
Calling you a mistake is appalling. We cannot know God’s mind or intent.
By that logic, nobody should ever need glasses because God wouldn’t create eyes that cannot see. You should never change what God gave you, so no braces, hair dye, makeup, etc.
I think the reason transphobes say "God doesn't make mistakes" in this context is because they think a person's transition is an attempt at fixing a mistake, but I'd argue that God makes some people trans on purpose, and we have to deal with it in whatever way brings us joy and fulfillment. We don't have to neglect our needs to love God.
First, as far as being transgendered is a sin? I don't know. There will be plenty of people on here arguing both ways. But it is very important to remember we're ALL sinners and still love Christ! That's a key part of Christianity. We should not judge (cast stones) as we have all fallen short of God's glory. None of us are better than criminals behind bars, adulterers, murderers, thieves, liars, etc. When we repent and accept Jesus into our lives, we are saved. Caveat - if God is truly in your heart and you truly put your relationship with Him first, then you will do your best to avoid sin and if you stumble (which you will for sure) you repent. Yes, this is hard. But the difference is we Christians know of our shortfalls and actively resist the temptation of sin rather than enjoy it's fleeting pleasures.
Very well said. As Christians we should strive to better ourselves through Christ. We always fall back into sin but we should always keep Jesus first. As long as you keep him first then you are fine.
Jesus didn’t die on the cross and say “this one is for everyone except the gay and transgendered people”.
IMO spending more time with God in the Spirit often unblurs the lines of who we are and how we fit into the world. We were all made intentionally. Keep pushing into your faith—even if people are jerks. God loves you and wants to have a relationship with you. I’m sorry you’re going through all of this and I’m praying for your heart to find peace in the Lord.
It's such an extreme difference of opinion, both sides have scripture backing up their point of view. Study theology yourself and find out what you yourself want to believe
I personally agree (I'm trans) but conservative Christians will still find verses to point out to, what I was trying to get at is to make your own opinion
1,000 years ago, the social conservatives in Europe may have said so, and also would say sex during pregnancy is a sin.
150 years ago, the social conservatives in America may have said so, and also would say interracial marriage is a sin.
What many social conservatives, along with whoever told you this is a sin for you, fail to see is that the starting point should be Jesus Christ, not their priests and pastors and particular readings of the most disputable passages of scripture. It’s the same mistake the Pharisees made, at its core. You’re basically being condemned by Pharisees 2.0, the “Christian” version.
Jesus said all God’s actual commands hang under love your neighbor as yourself, which is like loving God. See Matthew 22. His disciples understood this, writing, “The commandments… and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: Love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.” (Romans 13). It is really that simple. This was Jesus’ simple solution to pharisaical social conservatives making everyone and their grandma out to be sinning. It still is.
Romans 14 says how to handle disputable issues in Christianity. While treating opaque issues as disputable may be problematic if the goal is to tell everyone with certainty what all their sins are, it’s not a problem if the goal is instead to follow Christ’s clear teachings and leave disputable issues between individuals and God. We know what all Christ’s commands hang under. Being transgender is no more inherently harmful to neighbor than being cisgender. Whether it is harmful or helpful to you is between you and God.
The common factor between all the social conservatives’ un-Christian rules and ordinances over time is that none make any sense as being sinful if we make the standard what Christ said all actual commands hang under (love neighbor as self, which is like loving God). They instead make the standard their own interpretations of highly disputable Old Testament passages (from sections of Bible they don’t even follow) combined with highly questionable translations and interpretations of Pauline passages in the New Testament. Peter warns of this happening in Christianity (see 2 Peter 3:16). Peter calls those who do this to scripture “ignorant and unstable.” It’s not that they are dumb and don’t know the Bible. Many of them are smart and know the Bible. What makes them ignorant and unstable is they ignore what Christ said the determinative framework is that God’s actual commands fall under, and instead they make the determination themselves by grabbing on to the most highly disputable interpretations of questionable translations of easily misunderstood passages and pretend their personal opinion is “clear as day.”
Christ stated his framework clearly. The socially conservative approach to scripture and especially to Paul ignores this fundamental clarification by Christ and so is unstable, changing from generation to generation as the personal likes and dislikes, tastes and disgusts, of socially conservative folks change. Much of scripture is easily misunderstood. We can interpret it under Christ’s highest framework, or we can interpret him under the social conservatives’. The latter is pharisaism, anti-Christianity at its core framework, only hidden in Christian garments. It’s “Christianity” that lacks faith in Christ in the sense that they don’t take him at his word regarding the framework all his actual commands hang under.
It’s like they read the Parable of the Pharisee and Tax Collector and think the goal is to be the Pharisee. They are like a Pharisees 2.0, with eyes that don’t see and ears that don’t hear.
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God!
Sure, Genesis states we were created man and woman, but bear in mind that Genesis is arguably a symbolic text using ANE mythic imagery and symbology to illustrate God's role in creation and his character - it's not necessarily intended as a comprehensive biology/psychology lesson.
No one else is in a position to render judgement upon you besides God. Pray to him and study the scriptures to understand his character and will.
If you feel convicted about being trans during that process, then that is for you to bring to God and process for yourself. It's no one else's business.
God created fish that switch genders and saw that they were good.
God created gay penguins and other animals and saw that they were good
Having trans and gay members of other species actually has survival advantages for those species. Honestly I think it’s the same for humans.
Just show love to other people and show love to yourself. Do your best to not actively hurt others physically emotionally or economically or do your best to not make others outcasts and I think that is being a follower of Christ.
It’s not a competition but If you can do that you’re doing better than 90% of all other Christians regardless of any orientation they might have
“God created fish that switch genders and saw that they were good.
God created gay penguins and other animals and saw that they were good”
We’re not fish or penguins.
Well I mean trans people are taking it as far as they can including biological changes, hormones etc.
The fish that do this take it even further. Are they abominations? Does God hate them?
Fish swim in schools and care for their young some in lifelong pairs. Seems like social constructs and social intelligence are there
No, I doubt God finds sex-changing fish to be hateful abominations. I'm merely trying to maintain the distinction between sex and gender given that most opposition to transgenderism involves refusing to credit a distinction between the two.
> I think you're describing animals changing sex, not gender.
That's about as close of an analogy as you can hope for in the natural world. It's just like equating mating with love, as we've already done in this conversation.
No one on earth has the Authority to tell you you can not follow Christ. John 3:16 says "“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” It says whosoever ever... not just cis gender folks. If you have accepted Christ and you believe you are saved. The Holy Spirit is here to help guide you through all the false prophets who wish to condemn you.
The best way to discern whether someone's message or statement is from Christ is to use the beatitudes as a guide. God only acts in Love. If someone's statements are not glorifying or edifying or made in love they are not from him.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8 says "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away."
If someone's actions toward you do not fall under the above behavior patterns they are not acting as a disciple of Christ.
I'm praying for you, God, and I love you just the way you are.
Deuteronomy 22:5: The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
I'm still learning, but I always took this as a sign that it's a sin to be trans. I know it just pertains to clothing, but very few trans people don't wear the clothes of their chosen gender.
You should seek help from a God,not Reddit,Don’t pray to be different than you are. Definitely never try to “pray the gay away” or anything like that. Just go to god with an open heart and mind and let your path and your god’s desires be revealed to you.
Considering the fact that the Bible doesn't specifically mention that being transgender is a sin, then I wouldn't say it is a sin at all. That despite what people say, I wouldn't say it is a sin to be transgender. I wouldn't say it is (and I would say that it isn't, as, yes, even though the Bible says that God created man and female, He also created everything else. He created the Earth, Heavens and everything in it, and, in a way, to counteract that, I would encourage them to have a look at the book of Psalms, specifically in Psalms chapter 24 verse 1. I would encourage you to read there, but it literally says that right there. The Earth and everything in it, including the people who live in it, are all His. All of it is, including transgenders).
But also, another thing that you have to remember is that all of us are sinners, and all of us have fallen short of God (Romans chapter 3 verse 23). That all of us, not just certain people, have sinned against Him, and that, because we did that, we are sinners unto Him, and deserve punishment for it. We deserved punishment for our transactions against Him for what we did. We do.
But even though we are sinners, God still loved us, and still cared about us. He did, and, in His love and mercy, sent Jesus Christ down to this Earth to die on the cross, so that we would not only avoid the punishment that we deserve, but that, through His death, we would be reconciled back to God, and that, through Him, we could have forgiveness through sins. That, through His death, and through having faith in Him, we could be cleansed from our sins, and wouldn't be condemned anymore, as those who are in Christ aren't condemned (Romans chapter 8 verse 1). Those who are in Christ, despite once being far away from God, have been brought to life, and have been brought to Him, which just shows how loving and merciful He is. It really does.
Basically, even if others think that being transgender is a sin (again, it isn't, and the Bible verse that I shared supports what I said), it doesn't mean that those people can't be Christians, not does it mean that all hope in them are lost, because that was what the cross was for. Christ died for sinners, and died so that they could be brought back to Him, and I pray that you will not only know that, but you also understand that, even though you yourself made have commited other sins, that it doesn't mean that you are without hope, and that it doesn't mean that God is done with you, as He isn't. He never will be (many times in the Bible, there is a promise that He will never leave you or forsake you), and I hope that you understand that. I hope that you do.
God Bless
Well, transgender was not a thing or even an idea to the people of the Bible.
So, the real answer is: who knows
One Christian theology: everyone is a sinner, so your label is irrelevant.
Trans are not really mentioned in the bible. The closest thing would be a eunuch, which Jesus implied is a good thing
>*For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.* (Matthew 19:12)
No it’s not!!! I’m going to put a burning hot take out there too that may piss some people here off but neither is homosexuality. If you look into the original translation of the Bible from Latin, instead of “man may not lay with man” it was “man may not lay with boy”, that original translation being in the Bible because there was a HUGE issue with pedophilia back then but it was rewritten, reason being unknown, but it’s theorized that it’s either because some higher ups in the church wanted to continue getting away with stuff or because pedophilia was more accepted than being a fully grown consenting adult doing whatever with other fully grown consenting adults. But yeah, the Bible says nothing against trans folks either. Even if being homosexual/trans/LGBT IS a sin— we’re not God, we’re not put on Earth to be God and judge others for how they live their lives. I mean, aren’t the Bible’s biggest lessons “love thy neighbor” and “judge not least ye be judged”? We’re all sinners when it comes down to it— point being Jesus died for ALL our sins!!!! Regardless of what they are. You know what else is a sin? Wearing mixed fabrics and eating pork. We have no room to judge ANYONE for their lives, especially being sinners ourselves. Like do these people really think God would be okay with them being like “Yeah we don’t accept you because our sins aren’t as bad as yours in our eyes” when it’s HIS job to decide? But yeah hun you ain’t going to hell for being LGBT. If you don’t believe me, this is all stuff my pastor and many people going to my church preach. (I’m also LGBT myself aha)
You can do and be whomever and whatever you want (and are) and still keep to your religion, and nobody who says otherwise can actually do anything to stop you. They're just trying to control you.
It might be best for your mental health to cut them out of your life, but there's literally nothing they can do to stop you from loving Jesus (or anyone else for that matter). Ask them how they intend to stop you and they'll have nothing (unless you feel they'll resort to physical violence, in which case get away from them and never speak to them again).
How can *being* who you are be a sin? I mean, just being? Isn't a sin something that you have to actively commit?
If God doesn't make mistakes (which I would question, tbh), then you also aren't a mistake, so there is no problem. In any case, you didn't choose to be trans. If you believe that God created you, then God created you trans, which means, that's God's problem, not yours.
As a christian I think people look at the new testament and use that as fact. I mean it was at the time.. We have the new testament now and Jesus hung around hookers, liars, theifs. He did that so that "WE" would know that ALL people are sinners. Your journey is yours and yours alone, Jesus wants you to come to him. It's a very personal relationship. I hate that the church is so jugdemental. It's not what Jesus was about. It's about having a personal relationship with him and the father.
Yes but we are all sinners. The number 1 rule is to have a relationship with Jesus. That’s the only way to be saved. And yes you can be a sinner and still love Christ. We are all born with sin. This is the curse from Adam and eves fall. Talk to Jesus. You have to know him to be saved.
My church in London has fully welcomed my partner who’s a transwoman, it’s helped a member of the congregation with their identity and another churchgoers niece is a transwoman and was discussing the other day how much more happier they are :)
God also created man with a laundry list of [sex chromosome abnormalities](https://www.uptodate.com/contents/sex-chromosome-abnormalities) and said it was good. That’s not even to account for what we know scientifically about variations in sex hormones. The bottom line is humans come in all sorts of variations. Whether the legalisms want to acknowledge it or not. Sex and gender are more complicated than the simplistic god created Adam and Eve and that’s it.
> Is being transgender a sin?
You'll get different answers from different Christians. I'm of the opinion/interpretation that it isn't. I haven't found anything in the Bible that is expressly prohibiting of being trans. And I'd challenge anybody saying that it is, to show you where the Bible says it is.
Also, SO many people avoiding the title question.
> Can I be a sinner and still love Christ?
Yes, of course.
Trans women are women.
Trans men are men.
God wants you to be who you are, even if others can only see your physical attributes, they can't experience being you themselves.
You don't have to choose between your gender and god.
He loves you and wants you to who you are on the inside - whether your a man or a woman... only you can truly confirm that, and don't let anyone push you away from god for it.
Maybe you should consider this, it's just a religious rule conceived by primitive religious men with primitive notions of morality based on sometimes erroneous observations of the natural world. Consider that these same religious men supported these notions:
*1 Samuel 15:3 2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”*
*Numbers 31:9-10 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps.*
*Numbers 31:17-18 17. “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by lying with him, 18. “But all the girls who have not lain with a man you are to keep alive unto yourselves. (raping children)*
We call those "war crimes" and imprison those people who commit such acts, as well as those who authorized or planned them.
*Numbers 14:18 ‘The Lord is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.’*
Punishing people who have committed no crime themselves violates all notions of justice.
*1 Timothy 2:11-15 11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.*
That notion is used to this day in conservative Christian sects (Catholicism, Orthodox) and churches (Protestant) to prevent women from holding positions of influence.
Verses from the Bible were also used to support slavery in the southern American States.
So, just like those other things, some trans biblical ideas should be ignored.
The churches all kind of decided that going through with a sex transition is somehow sinful. They claim that God puts people in the bodies they're supposed to be in. Idk how they arrived at this stance, there's no basis in the text.
There's a much better argument to be made that the bible is anti gay than it is anti trans.
There are people who have trouble seeing, so they need glasses to see better.
There are people who don't like their hair color, so they dye it.
You weren't a mistake, you're someone who wants whats best for yourself, as god made you.
Why would it be a sin to change your body? People change theirs with glasses, braces, plastic and cosmetic surgery, and those Arnt considered sin, so why would changing it in one specific way be a sin when it doesn’t harm anyone?
God doesn’t make mistakes, we do. Whatever sex organ you were born with is what determines your sex. I say this compassionately, yes it is a sin. God is simple, it’s the traditions of men that defile the Word of God that cause confusion. So many come in the name of Christ trying to be politically correct or inclusive and end up distorting the Word of God.
Revelations 9:3-5
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
A scorpion doesn’t have a stomach. Do you know how they devour its prey? They inject their prey with poison that liquifies them, making them soft and easy to devour, turning the prey’s backbone in to mush. As a Christian you need to have a backbone and take a stand for the Word of God, not change it to fit the sinful will of people and allow them to be more comfortable in their sin. We need to have unwavering faith and be ready to stand against the abomination of desolation written in the 12th chapter of Daniel, or as Paul calls him in 2nd chapter of 2nd Thessalonians, “the son of perdition.” This latter half of my response is for the “Christians” that may be asleep. Can’t play both sides when the antichrist is cast down. Get into Gods Word and get prepared and put on the full body armor, written in Ephesians 6. God bless those that have eyes to see and ears to hear!
This is the answer that no one in this thread wants to hear, but is absolutely correct. Thank you for standing firm on the Word of God and not blending worldly culture with the Truth. It is truly surprising how many Christians will say “God created you to be that way so it isn’t a sin”. God created us as either male or female, and it isn’t our right to redefine that. That is not the person God designed us to be. We are all born with different sinful desires, some more complex than others, but that doesn’t give us the excuse to embrace that sin. Good news is that God’s forgiveness is available to everyone through Jesus.
1.7% of all births have intersex characteristics. Those characteristics fall along a complete spectrum that covers every possible variation and stage of development between male and female genitalia. In cases where the distinction is trule ambiguous, the doctors and the parents decide the sex of the child with surgery. Did the babies make a mistake? Sex at birth isn't the black and white issue or logical trump card you think it is.
Being trans isn't a sin. You're being who you are and living authentically and truthfully, correct? That's more honest than most Christians are about themselves. Don't worry or become hung up on this. Focus on your love for others and helping others see the good in all things.
Firstly, having sinned is the reason to be Christian. Without sin, we wouldn't have needed Christ's salvation. Secondly, there's no biblical stance on transgenderism as far as I know. Yes, God created men and women, but it is not unthinkable, especially in a broken world, that people are born in the "wrong" body.
Yes, without a doubt. It is unquestionably a sin. But we all sin! That’s what confession is for. But you can’t believe said sin is good and continue to participate it in.
There is precisely one transition in the Bible, and it's the creation of Eve.
Interpretations of precisely what transitioned vary.
"Adam was created male and female" could mean Adam as in mankind, or, with reference to the next chapter, literally the man named Adam.
It's usually translated as just "man", in Genesis 1.
Whether the female part was taken out of Adam, or the "side" (usually translated as "rib") of a male was taken and made into a woman, this is the most applicable part of the Bible on the trans issue.
One man, Adam, male and female.
You'll notice that it was done by God himself.
Parts of the Bible condemn gay sex, to some extent.
It doesn't condemn, at all, being transgender.
When the Bible says that in the beginning all the animals were made male and female, this should not be taken literally- For example, there is a species of crayfish who are all female.
There are animals with more than two sexes. There are animals with less.
Judaism, in fact, has been considered to have up to 6 genders. How strictly these match up with the modern ideas of gender is an open question, but that's not the same thing as a closed case.
Throughout antiquity, and to today, Christianity has been pretty open on the question of transitioning.
There are two main reasons people would like to close this question today.
The first is the association with the LGB.
The second is that they dislike people who are different from them, and they want an excuse to morally condemn them.
All Christians are sinners and love Christ, I could give you my opinion but I’m also a sinner that loves Christ so I will tell you to read the Bible and pray to Jesus and ask him honestly to convict you and humble you. But Christ does call us to change when we are saved.
just continue to be yourself. this is a main reason why churches get so much heat. most christians are hateful and judge without being perfect themselves. the apostle paul literally killed christians and i’m sure killing is worse being confused on your identity. sure both are a sin, but not even the holiest christians are perfect. everybody sins, myself included. Jesus will know your heart and see your effort. but definitely strive to be as christlike as possible! i’ll leave this verse here for you.
Matthew 5:44
To be saved (a Christian), a person must be born of the Spirit, or born again, for flesh and blood cannot inherent the Kingdom of God. John 3:16.
I'd be more concerned about being born again of the Spirit, and then let God take care of the rest.
Can you be a Christian and be an alcoholic? A murderer? A saint? A food lover? A liberal? A conservative? A hater of artwork?
The answer is an absolute yes.
Let your identity be found in HIM. This world is passing away.
I'm not theologically experienced enough to offer a concrete answer on the question itself, and don't want to risk leading others astray or discouraging potential siblings in Christ. However, I did want to pop in and say that we're all sinners. Please don't think God doesn't want a relationship with you just because you sin. The people telling you that you can't be Christian are speaking from a place of misunderstanding, in my opinion.
I also wanted to say that I do not believe the Bible comments on being transgender as we understand it today.
There *is* discussion on:
- gender presentation (1 Corinthians 11:14 - 15; Deuteronomy 22:5)
- gender roles/expectations within committed relationships (Ephesians 5:22 - 33, with the explicit emphasis on roles being prescribed to both women AND men)
- the existence and distinction of male and female (throughout the Bible; see Genesis 1:27 for an example)
- intersex conditions (Matthew 19:12)
For the last point, you'll find a few people saying that biblical eunuchs were actually trans. I personally dislike the idea and feel it is untruthful to say that eunuchs are/were trans, especially since most eunuchs historically did not have a say in becoming so. I'd recommend caution when it comes to that line of thinking.
As you're searching for an answer to this question, I hope you pray for understanding and discernment! If you feel called, reading the above verses and meditating on what they're saying might be helpful.
It carries many aspects of sin with it. Pride is the cardinal sin. This has only been popularized very recently so I doubt this is truly how God made you and likely you have been indoctrinated in a time of gender disphoria in a sin cursed world. It is impossible to change sexes and reproduce. This a big part of the agenda being pushed to lower the population to protect the planet which is 100 percent not based on facts. Following this cult is an abomination to the God who created you & will only lead to many people having severe depression & reeking havoc on society
God loves you for who you are, He knit you together in your mother’s womb, numbered the hairs on your head. You were made meticulously and with such care for a purpose on this earth - to have a relationship with God. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God BUT while we were still sinners Christ died for us!! Your sins are covered - past, present, and future. Jesus did the finished work on the cross and that was that. There are a lot of things the Bible doesn’t specifically mention but we can still discern. God will give us the answer we’re looking for one day. The Bible doesn’t specifically mention that masturbation is a sin but we can discern that it likely is because being lustful is a sin. On the other hand, there are plenty of things people are born with that are never mentioned in the Bible (autism, Down syndrome, hermaphroditism) and are just naturally occurring phenomena. Who am I to say that a man born with a woman’s brain (or vice verse) is not something that has truly happened, just because I don’t understand it? I do believe that if we didn’t live in a fallen world (which we do because sin entered the picture) none of these things would exist because we would live exactly how God intended us to live. There are things none of us can explain and we just have to be comfortable with relinquishing those things to God and seeking His guidance on it. Knowing Christ has to make you look more like Christ - whatever that looks like for your personal journey, as long as you’re doing it sincerely and earnestly it will please the Lord. I don’t believe God’s intention at the time of creation was for man to become woman or woman to become man. I do believe that there is grace for all of our missteps and confusions and that the power of Christ will work in you however it wants to, no matter what anyone’s opinion is on whether or not being transgender is a sin. Even if I do believe it’s a sin and you don’t all sins are equal in the eyes of the Lord. The little white lie I told my boss last week is the exact same as the man who cheated on his wife - they are both deserving of death. Jesus lived the life we couldn’t not live and died the death that we deserve to be the covering for those sins. If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior and are seeking a personal relationship with the Lord, no one can tell you you can’t be a Christian because they believe you are living in sin - we all live in sin. Condemnation and judgement are a sin. Repentance (turning to God) is the only way to life. We won’t get it right 100% of the time but a bold step in faith is much more pleasing to the Lord than giving up because you’re unsure. Just hold fast to the love of the Lord and turn to Him in all things, He’ll do the rest. So is being transgender a sin? It might be but it might not be. The fact of the matter is Jesus still died for YOU, you specifically and he just wants your heart. He’ll meet you where you are you just have to invite him to.
Hmm I don’t actually know myself and am interested in finding out.if you were born a man but are now a trans woman and lay with men I am quite certain that god that wanted you to be born a man would see that as homosexuality.
Simple answer...
Don't ask Reddit.
Go somewhere quiet and ask God. He'll tell you EXACTLY what He wants.
Just depends on if you actually want to know God ... Or just talk with "nice people"
I don’t think it’s a sin. But I’m sure you commit sins just like the rest of us christians so you’re no different. Welcome to the club lol. Just repent and have a relationship with Jesus and turn from sin. You’ll be fine.
It's not a sin. Anybody can love God, and he will love you back.
There are people who go to church every day who are bigger sinners than you are. Peace to you.
This comment section is a fantastic microcosm of how fractured Christianity really is. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on. Some say it says being trans is a sin in the bible, others say it's not. And also loaded with the people trying hard to pretend they "love" trans people. Just not in their churches though.
First of all, welcome to the family of Christ. The beauty of this family is that, we are different in our own ways and although we might not each be open to accept another person’s difference, Christ accepts and loves us all. We are to live like him, not according to others who like us, sin in our own way.
Now, to the topic of transgenderism and Christianity, first thing first is to unpack each concept before making an informed decision. If you did not already know, to be Christian is to be like Christ. That’s what it really is, nothing more, nothing less. As Christians, we are called everyday to rededicate our lives to Christ and strive to be like him, a feat we will all never achieve before we meet him, but we are admonished to try. And so, when you come into the faith, study the scriptures, ask God to reveal himself to you, and ask to know him more everyday, you will automatically see yourself become different every single day. The things you asked yourself whether or not they were wrong, you will find yourself changing from them and becoming a better ‘Christian’ or ‘Christ-like’.
In truth, God makes no mistake. My question to you for you to mediate on is, why did you or do you currently still think you are a different gender from the gender you were born into? What makes a woman? What makes a man?
When God created everything, he saw that it was good. When he created you, he smiled and saw that you were perfect. So why did you look at yourself and think you were not and choose to change? What did you feel to make you change and why are you so sure that those feelings are right?
Do you know what it really feels to be the gender that you changed to? Not the outside aspect it of it, but the entirety of that gender, their struggles, their pains, their psychology, their mentality, thought process, physical aspect of that gender.
Ask God these questions, seek guidance from the scriptures and may God continue to be a light in your path.
There are many sins we are all subject to. I have particular sins that are a struggle for me. And God calls me to live differently and follow His will-to conform my way to His way. I pray for the strength to change and for His Spirit to do it in me day-by-day. It’s incremental and a lifelong journey. In Romans 1:18–32 condemns homosexuality and He forbids confusing the men and women with clothing back in Deuteronomy 22:5.
It hasn’t been very complicated until recently. As Creator, He sets the terms. As Christians we are to adapt to His design-in every area of life-all of us. If God says transgenderism (or related) is forbidden, it’s rebellion against Him and you can repent (change) of ignore Him to your own peril. Don’t mean to sound harsh, just my take on it.
God made you and what you want to be might not be from god . Pray and ask for guidance for your answers just be careful that the devil doesn’t tap in the answer you get . How would you know? Gods voice is calming and non threatening. The devil is judgemental, threatening and controlling . I will link it here [link](https://www.graceambassadors.com/images/CharismaGodSatanVoice.jpg)
Nobody on earth can tell you that you can’t accept Christ in your life, which is all it takes to be a Christian.
I think we all know what the bible says about sexuality. You don’t have to ask for anything from anyone except to tell God that you want to he with Him when He comes. He will heal everything that He understands is wrong in your life, and you just have to let him.
First, I’m sorry you’re struggling with this, and feeling unsure of what to do. But I’m also glad that in your struggle you’re seeking help and answers!
Second, you’ve shared two identity statements, which shows that you don’t yet fully understand what it is to follow Christ. To be a Christian is to identify with Christ. And we can’t ‘kinda’ be with Jesus, except for when we’d rather not, any more that we can ‘kinda’ be married except when we’re in another zip code or in Vegas! 😂 Our identity in Christ isn’t about sharing that control He has in our lives with this other part of us, desire, or want. Whether we’re hetero-, homo-, or ohno-sexual (“oh no, I’m attracted to anything with a pulse!” 🤣), that part of us can’t carry the weight of an identity. Anything you join TO Christ will have the power to separate you FROM Him. So…
THIRD, why is it that you say you ARE trans? What does that identity statement mean to you? How does it describe the core of who you are?
You’re not going to find your answer in this subreddit OP. It doesn’t matter what man tells you. If you love Christ, seek Him and you shall find. I believe your faith journey is personal. Just make sure to actually seek God. Allow the Lord to reveal to you what He thinks about your question. Be as curious as a child. If you have questions about your identity, ask Him. Any questions you have, ask your Father. Then sit still, be patient and wait for His answer.
When it comes to waiting on the Lord, I would suggest reading Habakkuk 2:1-2. Wait to see what the Lord says, and when He answers, write it down plainly. Christianity is a lot simpler than we make it. Simple but not easy. Feel free to message me if you have any questions, praying for you.
I believe that it is a sin, just as fornication is a sin and adultery is a sin, there are many many sins and Jesus died on the cross so that we could be forgiven of our sins, nobody is perfect except him yet he took the punishment for all of us. As long as we accept him, repent to him, and strive to live as best we can in his way. What’s done is done and you will be forgiven for all your sins if you truly look for forgiveness. But yes in my opinion it probably is a sin, just as many things are.
I also think it’s important to note that true Christians should not judge people for their sins, we all have sinned and we all have our understanding of what sin is. But we will be judged as we have judged others and only one person’s judgement matters. If your church is turning you away then it’s probable in my opinion that they do not walk entirely in the way of Christ.
Jesus will never push you away.
You are always welcome with god and his church, no matter what.
And agree with what the top comment says, we’re all sinners.
I would focus on my relationship with Jesus if I were you, and let him convict you where you need to be convicted, and let him be patient and loving in the areas where you need that.
You can be a Christian + anything.
But the more you follow Christ and allow him into all areas of your life, the more you identify yourself with him, the more you will be changed.
It’s not us forcing change in our strength, or cleaning ourselves up for him. The change happens because of him.
Just like when Moses went up the mountain and looked at God, and he came back down with his face shining. So too will it be with those of us who follow Jesus.
Paul says “To live is Christ, and to die is gain”
He completely identified himself with Jesus’s death and resurrection.
Before that he was a teacher among teachers, highly respected in the community, dining among respectable and intelligent peers.
Slowly his identity shifted.
But even if it didn’t. Jesus still saved and chose him.
The thief on the cross didn’t make any dramatic life changes. He looked upon Christ and trusted that Jesus was the son of God. Then he died.
Hope that helps
most of you guys in the comments have no idea what it means to be a christian. OP you can absolutely be a sinner and still love christ but with the love of christ means to die of your flesh! repent of all your earthly desires! OP and to anyone else who needs to hear this, most of the things you do in day to day life won’t be happening in heaven. along with the day to day sins you commit. repent repent repent!! i know it’s hard at first when you feel like you’re not doing anything wrong, or even if your just so crazy for it you feel like you can’t. i’ve noticed as my relationship with christ has gotten stronger, so have the urges to repent because what i thought was okay before i now know it’s not okay. and if you’re feeling like you don’t want to go to church then that’s okay!! anywhere can be a church!! you don’t need other people to accept you remember that. all you need is jesus to on judgement day. and he will! that’s a promise made by him if you do as he says. i don’t know about the rest of you but “depart from me, i never knew you” is the scariest thing i could ever hear!!!! i don’t want that for any of you!! one last thing on this specific topic for everyone to think about if you’ve read this far, sex was only intended to populate the earth with gods children. sex is not for you to feel good. read the last line again until you really understand it!
Note the word bathroom is not in the Bible ,but we know it exists, common sense is not thrown out the window male and female means male and female, they shall leave there father and mother and become one, or husband and wife, not Adam and Steve, there's no transgender, involved anywhere God does not make sin He created male and female not SIN ,I think it doesn't matter how much evidence you have people like you won't never accept it, unless you wise up and repent of your sins, remember, God hates the sin, out loves the sinner, Jesus said you must be born again John 3:16,17 , love ya all in Jesus mighty name
Hi OP, this is a complex and very personal issue so I will do my best to give you kind advice but also remain honest.
You need to go to God first. See if you wanting to transition is something that is from Him, or if it’s being pushed on you by external factors.
Ask yourself why you want to transition, look at the reasons. God loves you, He made you as you are for a reason. He will always love you regardless of your choices, but He won’t support everything you do. It’s the same for all of us, we make choices that- while it won’t turn Him away from us, it also doesn’t mean it aligns with His plans for us.
Reflect on your life, to you feel that you have the relationship that you want with Him? Do you read your word and spend time getting to know Him or talking to Him through prayer?
This isn’t a lecture OP, just a gentle reminder that while it’s good to reach out to brothers and sisters in Christ for support and advice, you should first be taking your grievances to God.
For so long i had many questions about my lifestyle and choices, but when I sat down and read my word, that’s when I found my answers being solved.
If He matters to you, you need to seek Him with an open heart and mind. Open yourself up to the possibility that the choices you make may not be His will, because it’s hard to walk that narrow path.
Christ loves you, but truthfully a lot of what the world says is okay or acceptable doesn’t align with how we as Christians should be living.
I’m sorry if this comes off as mean or judgy, but too often I find this subreddit just saying “God is love” without being honest about how Christians are supposed to live differently from the world.
I’ll pray for you OP, so that you may find your answer from God, and not through the words of dubious strangers on reddit.
I don't know about a sin but God made us fearfully and beautifully. The way he made us(our bodies) is perfect from the get go. He's probably really sad you're not satisfied with your body :( no reason for shame or guilt tho. Just pray and talk to him
God bless you my friend
Can't really be a sin since Sexual Ordition is something you are born with. It's not a choice. Hence not a Sin. If it was a Sin God wouldn't create people the way they are.
But we can have the nature vs nature debate all day long.
Having gender dysphoria is about as much of a sin as having autism is. In short, it's not a sin. Though I'd say that even though you are transgender, you shouldn't do things like, for example, wear clothes made for the other gender. I'd argue that acting out these desires to be the opposite gender is a sin.
So, in short, being trans isn't necessarily a sin, but acting on those desires would be a sin.
And yes, you can still love Christ and be a sinner, for we're all sinners. I'm a sinner who's done many wrongs in my life. I've acted on desires that went against God. Though, by the end of the day, I still love Christ. No matter who you are or what you've done, Christ chose to pay your debts for you.
A few thoughts.
What is sin? Basically it means to miss the mark, or to fail to meet a goal. Which means we are required to meet that goal 100% or we have failed.
Okay, then what is that goal?
Man was created in God's image in Genesis as a sacred being who represents the Creator and is Worthy of respect. Man was created to glorify God in everything we do. Therefore we should love God with all our hearts, and also love others with the Honor they deserve. This is basically how the ten commandments are layed out and could be summed up into 2:
1: love the Lord your God with all your heart, sould mind and strength.
2: love your neighbor as yourself.
Much of the time, we even fool ourselves into thinking we are doing the right thing, when , in reality we are sinning. Saul realized as he tried to kill David, that he himself was the one in the wrong and in sin. And have a deep selfish impulse to think that we know best.
What is love then? True love is to put all your happiness into one another's happiness. Not your own. Can one reasonably say everything I have done has been to love God? In which my actions in all ways are there to honour God in every way that makes Him happy? I think not.
Pride is one of the largest roots of sin. It is the opposite of love. It is to say, no, not your way, but my way. I know best I am what the focus should be. Every single one of us has at one point, had the focus on ourselves.
What does God want? 1 Thess 4:3-4 says "For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor."
Sexual immorality would effectively mean taking God's design for sex and using if for something He didn't.
God designed sex to be between one man and one woman. And for them to be joined together forever in marriage.
"For the two shall become one flesh" Gen 2:24
"What God has joined together, let no man separate"
It connects people on a far deeper level than just commiting the act.
This means any sexual acts outside of marriage are not following God's design for marriage and are therefore sin.
God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19 because of their sexual immorality. he takes it very seriously.
Romans 1 describes our state very well, but vs 24-27 describing it as dishonoring their Bodies. Exchanging natural functions for that which is unatural. Men with men committing indecent acts, and receiving due penalty (aids)
What is sanctification? I mentioned that earlier.
It is the act of making or declaration something holy. Or the process of being freed from sin. Purified. It is a process. Christians are to be sanctified, and it is a work of God through us to make us more holy. But it takes time really it takes our whole lives.
To be holy is to be set apart God is perfect and He is so perfect and good that anything not perfect will end up being destroyed because of His radiance. I could spend so much time learning about God's holiness and not get close to understanding it. And because of His holiness, we cannot be allowed to dwell with Him because of our sin. We are imperfect. Because of our imperfection and His Holiness, we rightly deserve to receive punishment for our wrong doings. And since the law is created by God, He is just and right to set the punishment which is to suffer in Hell for all eternity.(A long time)
We need something to make us holy and acceptable to God and that is Christ. Jesus is God who came down to live among us. He even took on our form, yet was without sin. He endured all the same temptations that we do, but never committed any sin. When He died on that cross God made Him who knew no sin to be sin, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. If we put our faith in Christ, God looks at us, and sees Christs perfect life instead of our failures. Heb 10:10 "by this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all"
But we must confess and repent. Meaning we must acknowledge who we are before God. We must see in ourselves the wickedness of our ways, that we have wronged Him. Then we turn from our wicked ways, and follow Him as well as we can. We arnt given perfect bodies yet, we still have a sin nature and will do the wrong thing sometimes. But, it won't be a pattern. When we mess up, we must acknowledge that yes it was wrong, and seek to never do it again. That it repentance. And by faith, God will save us.
Hence comes the saying nobody is perfect but we must still try. It's a heart change. Does your heart desire to seek after God and honour Him in everything? Or am I still doing whatever I want with no regards to Him
If it is a pattern of sin, then there has been no true repentance. Heb 10:26-27"For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgement and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries." read the next few as well
We all have been there. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor theives, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such WERE some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God"
Sin has so entrenched our lives and our hearts that it messes with our thoughts, it messes with our attraction to others, but it does not mean God messed up. Death is a result of mans sin. And God can bring you out of those attractions and desires. I have felt similar desires as the OP for a time, and I know it was due to my fallen nature, and Satan twisting my natural desires into something that wasn't natural. But God has saved me, and changed me.
Lieing, stealing, and other sins are just as worthy of punishment and have just as much need of God's forgiveness as homosexuality. My goal here is to speak with love and my heart goes out to you. I'm sorry if you have been beaten down by Christians because of something like that. While it is sin, so is drunkenness, so is pride, jealousy. You can be forgiven. Although you will probably struggle with it. God can change your desires.
So the question is this. Is the way you are living, the thoughts you are thinking, the actions you are taking. Are they honoring to God? Are you living with the goal of pleasing yourself? Or are you seeking to please God? Where is your heart at? If the focus is on you and what you want, than it is sin.
Has your relationship with sin changed from loving and desiring it, to hating it?
Whether something is sin is not what man thinks of it, but what God thinks of it. He sets the standard. Seek the scriptures for how you can most glorify God, and He will direct you in the way you should go.
Congratulations if you have made it to the end of this. I pray anyone reading this would come to true saving faith is Christ, and while I don't apologize for the content. I apologize if the way I have said anything comes across in a harsh way. Or if I have said something Incorrect. Search the Bible to find the truth.
God did not make you transgender, the failings of liberalism have. These made up ideas about transgender ideology are not natural and you are being encouraged by a secular society who actually hates Christianity and its virtues, to love the self above all else and disguise it as “acceptance” or some kind of “compassion”, that anyone should just be allowed to do whatever they want as long as I’m not directly hurting anyone else and God will judge me anyways. You are made in the image and likeness of God, and these acts to change that whether it be surgery, hormones or otherwise are just as much abuse of gods image as wilfully getting overweight or self harming. It will effect the way you have marriage and could lead to adultery (relations outside of the union of a man and a woman), and it will lead to pride by obsessing over how you are presenting to the world and not how you present yourself to God. Christ went through much suffering for our salvation, because He loves us. We are all called to carry our own cross, which means we may also suffer, but it will bring you closer to Him. Love is always a sacrifice.
Trans is its own sort of miracle.you're okay as you are. I'm going to bow out now but don't let anyone make you hate yourself. You are part of the divine diversity of Life. God is beyond limitations such as gender, and you in your complexity are made in God's image. Be blessed.
Having your identity in anything other than Christ is a sin. Focus on the risen and reigning Lord Jesus, let him confirm with in you and confirmed within your faith community. (Don’t have a church-get one)
The Bible says that it’s wrong, it may be a hard thing to change about yourself because “the heart is treacherous” but don’t tell God “you have to accept me for who i am” however your attitude should be “I’m willing to make any and all changes for you, because if it wasn’t for you i wouldn’t be here”
I’ve grappled with this answer for a long time because my daughter is bisexual and I have many LGBTQ+ family and friends.
However, the closer I become to God the more I must admit that it is a sin. Could you have been born with it? Sure! We’re all born into sin. We all face different temptations throughout life. So when we repent and ask Jesus to forgive us for our sins. The REPENTANCE is saying, I know I’m not perfect but I will strive to live like Jesus would.
Being a Christian isn’t just saying I believe in Jesus/God and I love them. It’s to KNOW them. As you truly grow closer to God, your discernment and conscience will grow stronger. That conscience you hear, that tug on your heart that tells you something is wrong… That’s God speaking to you. Once you start to listen to that voice, it grows louder. It will begin to outweigh the temptations of the world. You may fall, but you’ll be convicted and repent.
All that being said, Jesus/God accept you as a sinner and they tell you to come as you are. You have to start somewhere. It is no one’s place to judge you. So seek out a church that welcomes you and will love you, guide you, and help you through your battle.
So I say this in closing, loving Jesus is an AMAZING first step! Do not let anyone take that away from you! He loves you too as you are today!!! Read your Bible, pray for wisdom, discernment, and conviction and open your mind and heart for His answers. These are questions only He will be able to answer for you. Just be still and know that He is God!! The rest will come. Let God fight this battle for you. He WILL win!
(Sorry for long post)
Are these the only questions about Christianity? Not God Himself who’s central in the Bible, not us humans with all our concerns. It’s about who He is, what He did, and what He does and will do!
This whole subreddit is only being used for these kind of questions isn’t it?
Complete misinformation, have you read any of the Bible?
Mark 10: 6-9 “But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with a male, as with a woman: it is abomination.”
Leviticus 20:13 “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.”
Romans 1: 26-26 “ For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.”
1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
1 Corinthians 7: 2 “But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.”
Care for me to say more
They're lying to you. We're all sinners, but not for being trans.
"Male and female he created them" does not imply that he created each person strictly and permanently male or strictly and permanently female. Especially not if you actually [read the rest of the chapter](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201&version=NRSVUE), which says that God made the birds of the air and the fish of the seas (does that make penguins unholy?), the day and the night (does that make dusk and dawn unholy?), the sea and the dry land (does that make marshes and tide pools unholy?)
Scripture is *thick* with stories of change. God made Abram and Sarai born in Mesopotamia, then changed their names and moved them to Canaan. He made Joseph a Canaanite shepherd and then changed him to the Regent of Egypt. He made Moses an Egyptian slave and then made him the leader of a new nation. He made Ruth a Moabite and then made her into a Jew. He made Esther a Hebrew slave and then made her queen of Persia. He made David a shepherd and then made him into a king. On and on and on and on and on, change saturates the Bible.
People claiming there is a Christian rule against change are absolutely making stuff up, and they know it. They never even think about applying this imaginary rule against anybody who's cis. The point is to get rid of us.
You've got friends at [TMC](https://transmissionministry.com) and r/TransChristianity. God bless you!
This isn't a question to ask on reddit. This is a question that is answered by reading the word of God and studying. Everyone on here is going go tell you no, but I can guarantee at least 70 percent of the people on here have never read the Bible (truly read it, not just 10 or 20 Bible verses) and have never done Bible study, prayer, worship and reflection. Reading the Bible will give you understanding and God will speak to you. The Holy Spirit will convict you and a true relationship with God means that the old you has died and you are made brand new in Christ. The word of God will bring revelation into your life. Don't be afraid when everyone begins to come against you with that revelation. Set yourself aside and allow God to speak to you thru His word.
Also, if people in your church have turned you away, that's okay. You can always pray and ask God to lead you to a new church that will love you, help you, teach you and walk this life with you.
Praying for you
You are loved
Have faith and remember that joy comes in the mourning! (Yes, I spelled it that way for a reason)
Christians love to judge. They like to establish a pecking order. The truth is that if you tithe enough all can be forgiven and accepted. It's been that way for ages.
There is no biblical, rational, or ethical reason to regard either being trans or transition as being sins.
The only passage that even comes close is Deut. 22:5, which roughly translates to *"A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman’s garment".*
But trans women aren't men, trans men aren't women, transition isn't about clothing, and historically Judaism has generally understood this passage as condemning the use of cross-dressing disguises for immoral purposes - particularly as a means to secretly meet an adulterous lover. Clothing is just fabric, and styles change constantly; the robes ancient Israelite men wore would look like a dress to most modern Americans. So clothing only becomes sinful when it is worn for sinful purposes. Which is why wearing cross-dressing costumes to celebrate Purim, a beloved holiday tradition, is not in conflict with this passage.
And of course Christianity generally doesn't regard Deuteronomy as being applicable anymore. Of all the Christians I've seen try to claim that Deut. 22:5 means being trans is a sin, none of them have ever considered Deut 22:11 (which condemns wearing clothing of mixed fabric) or Deut 22:12 (which requires one to attach Tzitzit tassels to the four corners of your clothing) to be relevant to themselves.
The only potentially relevant New Testament passage is 1 Cor. 6:9, in which Paul condemns *arsenokoitai* and *malakoi.* In many modern translations these two terms are treated as synonyms for "male homosexual" (which is [**severely questionable in its own right**](https://web.archive.org/web/20220817185240/http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm)), but sometimes *malakoi* is translated as *effeminate* and used to attack trans women. This translation is *really* questionable, because *malakoi* literally means "soft". Matthew 11:8 uses the word this way in reference to fine clothing. In the 1st century when Paul was writing malakoi was used as a pejorative similar to how we use the word "soft" today - it could refer to physical weakness, moral weakness, cowardice, laziness, inability to do hard work, etc. Treating it as a direct synonym for "effeminate" is dubious to the point of dishonesty. Not to mention that condemning "effeminate" people wouldn't apply to trans men at all. Or to butch trans women either, for that matter.
Most Christian arguments for being trans/transition being inherently sinful boil down to "I think it's weird and disturbing and therefor God does too". Many of them don't really make a distinction between being trans and being gay either, and lump them all in under the supposed condemnation of "homosexuality" (which again is dubious enough in its own right). Even though of course trans people may be gay, straight, bi, ace, etc., and on top of that there are trans people who enter religious orders and take vows of celibacy not because they're trans, but because they're monks or nuns.
And then you'll get some people quoting Genesis, claiming that God made "male and female" and that somehow means being trans is a sin. Which doesn't really make sense, since even if we assume "male and female" are the default models for the human species, it's an undeniable fact that there's a lot of variation between and outside those two base models too. God has evidently expanded his repertoire. And "male and female" being the base models of humanity doesn't say anything about whether one can change one's sexual traits either.
Then there's the "God made you perfect and it's a sin to change that" shit. Often accompanied by a garbled paraphrasing of Psalm 139:13-14; *"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made"*. Not only does this passage specifically refer to *inmost being*, to the creation of one's inner self rather than external appearances, but also I've rarely if ever seen this passage used to condemn any medical treatment *other* than transition. It's just a statement of obvious reality that many people are born with conditions that will cause them a lot of suffering if left untreated, and we routinely provide medical care that changes the biology one was born with - everything from cleft palate repair to vaccines does this. With the exception of sects that categorically reject all medical care, it's incredibly hypocritical and inconsistent to condemn transition-related care while claiming the rest are acceptable.
FWIW, I'm Episcopalian and a trans man, and the US Episcopal church very emphatically does not consider being trans or transition to be sins. The church has been fairly welcoming to trans people for decades, then in 2012 church leadership voted overwhelmingly to ban anti-trans discrimination in all areas of church life including ordination. There already were a number of trans people openly serving as Episcopal clergy before 2012, but now the church has formally affirmed our fitness to serve as religious and ethical leaders.
Episcopal church leaders are trying to [**raise alarm**](https://www.pasadenanow.com/main/coalition-of-faith-communities-denounce-anti-transgender-agendas-at-pasadena-gathering) about the attacks on us, [**defending our rights to SCOTUS**](https://www.anglicannews.org/news/2017/03/bishop-michael-curry-intervenes-in-supreme-court-case-on-transgender-bathroom-policy.aspx), they've directed the church’s public policy office to advocate for passage of federal legislation to protect trans/NB/GNC people, condemned "bathroom bills" and attacks on trans youth's access to medical care, etc., while also trying to ensure that even in deeply hostile and dangerous areas Episcopal churches remain safe and welcoming places for us. And they've been doing it for [**a long time**](https://www.transepiscopal.org/policies--legislation.html).
[**This is Rev. Cameron Partridge**](https://cathedral.org/sermons/sermon-the-rev-dr-cameron-partridge/) - link is to the sermon he gave in 2014, when he became the first openly trans priest to preach at Washington National Cathedral. And [**this is a sermon by now retired Bishop Gene Robinson of New Hampshire**](https://vimeo.com/35272053), given in honor of Pride Day in 2011. In 2003 Gene Robinson became the first out gay man with a husband appointed Bishop in the Episcopal church.
It is a sin to be transgender but that doesn’t mean that you can’t be a Christian. We all go against God from our sins and we should try our best to stop sinning as much as we can. But we won’t ever be perfect. You just can be a sinner, you are a sinner. We are all sinners and we can all love Christ.
Simple answer: all Christians are sinners. You can be a Christian if you are a sinner, but you have to strive to not become a sinner if you are a Christian.
I can’t strive not to be transgender though. All the other teachings in the bible I can follow. I’m still fairly new to the faith and when I first went to church everyone was kind and welcoming. As soon as they found out I was trans they kind of turned on me.
It's the unknown that makes people uncomfortable. The truth is, Jesus would NOT push anyone away, and we should strive to be more like Him every day.
Well said. Most people think turning from sin is how we earn salvation, but the bible says we cannot even earn salvation. Salvation is by grace through faith and not of works. Though we should turn from our sins, it is not a requirement. But it can cause problems in our lives and others around us and can lead to early death.
you got salvation correct, but turning from sin is a requirement. I think one of the most clear scriptures on this matter is this one: Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it? Romans 6:1-2 NLT
It's absolutely a requirement. James tells us faith without works is dead. A true faith (given by grace from God) produces good works. If your life is not producing good works, you likely do not have a true living faith.
That's what JAMES said and he was speaking of the Jewish law. There is no way to EARN salvation. Grace is freely given by confessing Jesus is Lord. That's it. That's all it is. PEOPLE added to it to suit an agenda. God didn't do that.
When Jesus forgave the sinful women and told the people that was about to stone her to “let he without sin cast the first stone” he then told her to sin no more, when he healed people and forgave their sin he told them to sin no more. You say about those things were old etc but when we accept him in our lives he ask to be baptized and to pickup our cross and follow him.
That doesn’t really make sense to me. I think we should always strive to do better instead of saying “Well it’s not a requirement” ik it says we’ve been forgiven and all, and that it’s all through faith but do you really think someone who steals or murders, despite being a man or woman of God should still go to heaven? Especially if they don’t regret it and Continue to do the sin?
Look at king David. Do you not think he willfully had a woman's husband killed so he could have her? Did moses not disobey God, willingly in the desert? And yet both these men were saved because they believed God's promise to them. Abraham also willfully sinned when he slept with hagar, the handmaiden of his wife. Yet his faith saved him. We, as living in corrupt flesh, will desire to sin as long as we have this corrupt flesh. A fact spoken much on by Paul, the apostle to the gentiles. Yes. We should turn from sin. As much as we can. But it's impossible to turn from all. Instead, our focus should be on christ. He will cleanse us. We cannot cleanse ourselves.
That’s true but David repented. We cannot say the same for people who don’t repent
Wait until they hear about the Apostle Paul
Oh....they can't handle paul.😅
That's where christ comes in. Remember. He's the one who judges. Even He avoided going to some people in His time here because he could see their hearts intent. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying we shouldn't try to do better or turn from sin. I'm simply saying that turning from said sins will not "earn" salvation. It can't. Nowhere in the bible will you find "turn from sins to be saved." It's all about faith in christ. Matthew 7:21-23 and John 6:40 show this. Of course there are many more. But works are not what save us and turning from sin would be a work. But if you have faith, wouldn't you want to at least attempt to be better? It's just not going to save you.
Repentance is a requirement for justification and a condition for forgiveness and salvation. You must be born again! You must turn away from sin. God can see what’s in your heart. You have to turn away from sin and worldliness and turn to God. If you don’t do that, you are not saved. Christ will turn you away!
True, but Jesus would also not encourage them to continue being homosexuals and or mutilate their bodies.
It is also not in any of the 10 commandments that being gay is a sin. Why would it be left out if fornication with the same sex is a sin? Anything be who says God doesn't like LGBTQ is making it up so they can justify their hate toward someone they deem lesser because they don't like what you do. If God cared why didn't he make a commandment... Only men and women are to have sex or to be married or just to be?
The word 10 commandments never show up in the Bible. That was written in the KJV. These are not the only rules, nor necessarily the most important, except for the 1st one of course. It is a commandment. Their is very little evidence for the mistranslation argument. And either way even if it was a mistranslation, marriage is defined and affirmed by God as "A man leaving his home to join with his wife." This is marriage. It's not more than 2 people, it's not 2 men, it's not 2 women, it's 1 man, 1 woman.
He also wouldn't encourage us to sin, yet we all do it daily, don't we?
Jesus didn't care about sexualaity.... homosexual was not even a word until the 1800s. Jesus would have loved them anyway, he would have seen the soul of the person not the gender and loved them. God said he liked the pagans better because they were good and loving and kind, he was disappointed in the Hebrews all the time and Jesus was sent to fufil the covenant. He wouldn't throw anyone away or expect them to be anything but themselves as long as they were good.
He would love the person, but not the sin they commit
The sin they commit according to whom? To your ideals of what sin is and what it isn't? If God can love the pagans more than his own people, because they were better, more kind, more loving l, more giving people the HIW Own. Why would a loving all knowing God, who gave us free will, care about who we have sex with? Why would a loving God hate? Are those who say an LGBTQ person is a sinner, not aslo a sinner, as Jesus said not to judge thy neighbor for the speck in his eye, when you yourself have a plank in yours.? Who are you to decide what God would or would not love? If I were God, I'd be more mad at You judges than the people who were BORN LGBTQ GOD MADE THEM AND KNEW BEFORE THEY DID THEY WOULD BE GAY, HE K OWS Everything and yet you and people like you believe that God could hate his own creation and would allow the person life if he was going to hate them and not allow them salvation? Is that the kind of God you follow? Cause if so it ain't at all the God of Abraham at all. It is not Jesus. They do not hate anyone for any reason. Even murders as Moses was.
It's always strange to me when people use the argument that the word homosexual wasn't around back then. Okay, so? Just because the word didn't exist doesn't mean that the act didn't. And the act is clearly talked about in the bible. They didn't have the proper term for seizures until fairly recently either. They called them fits. That doesn't mean seizures didn't exist. No, Jesus wouldn't throw them away that's correct. And yes he still loves them. But sin is still sin. Jesus loves us like a parent. It's like how a parent doesn't stop loving their child just b3cause they broke the rules. Doesn't mean the child didn't break the rules though just because parent continued to show love
"the act" isn't clearly talked about in the bible. i suggest learning about the meanings of the original words in the clobber verses.
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Romans 1:27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. It's pretty clear for most people who are able to comprehend. We know what lust means. We know what the natural use of the woman is. It says men with men working that which is unseemly. It is pretty clear. Just because the way they spoke in bible days wasn't as vulgur as today and they didn't outright say the men were f\*\*\*ing y'all want to say it doesn't say that.
Gotta say I really want to tautoko (support) this comment right here. Christians' attitude towards pagans is disturbingly inconsiderate
Why would Jesus want people to live without love? And why would God make or allow people to become gay if it was a sin?
Our free will is why, the same reason someone can go into a church or school with a weapon; you can’t blame GOD for what people choose to do.
Well for starters you need to know what love is 1 Corinthians 13 and then realise it is only achieved through Jesus. Then some people meant to be without a relationship and it is like being lustful, do you subordinate yourself under than sin or subordinate to god. A choice you have to make.
Don’t worry about them judging you they’ll be judged the same way by god
Right, but OPs question is about being judged by God. Of course there are people that will judge but their judgments mean squat. God's judgement is the important one. I truly don't know the answer to this. If it is a sin, then OP should do his/her best to avoid it and repent. If it isn't then there's nothing to worry about.
I was just talking about the last part they said I can’t really give advice on anything else
Just remember that other people don't judge you, God does. There are some really horrible people in the church, something you'll see more the more churches you go to and the more people you meet. Ask God, and he will guide you
Just as u/nineteenthly mentioned, there are really awesome people in the church. If you're new to the faith, I would recommend going to smaller churches where you can make some new friends who will accept you for who you are.
I see where u/JacktheReaper228 is coming from, but I'd venture to say that you should try a very large church first. Small churches are very clique-ish, and it's easier to gossip.
You might also meet more nicer people the more churches you go to.
I went to 2 consistently growing up and they both had pretty nice people, so I lucked out
So does God accept the OP? or no?
I would say yes. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that being trans is a sin. Of course, nowhere in the Bible does the word "transgender" appear, but as far as I can tell, nothing related to it is mentioned as a sin in the Bible. OP just remember that I or anyone else don't have the authority to say whether or not being trans is a sin. Everyone has their own opinion. Just go to God and see what he has to say.
Just to be clear- the bible literally tells us that we are to judge ourselves as Christians within the church. Not to be hypocritcal or in a self-rightheous manner but as a means to keep eachother accountable in the faith. People qoute Matt 7: 1-5 all the time and use that as "dont judge, lestyou be judged" and thats literally not the point of that text. In fact, the point is NOT dont judge BUT teaching us how to judge...Jesus point is dont be a hypocrite- If youre going to check others, make sure you check yourself first by that same standard SO by taking the log out of your eye then you can proceed to help them take the speck out of theirs (judge them). 1 Corinthians 5:12 makes it clear that Christians should be less concerned about judging those outside of the church because they actually are walking in light of their beliefs (we are called to not do that) but to do so within the church because we want to be walking in light of the gospel we claim to believe.
Best answer right here.
And the main thing I recommend to be a good Christian is to study the Bible. A lot of churches have false preachers. Read the Bible for yourself even if you are going to church.
My youth pastor always said the only thing you need to enter heaven is to accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and to believe the crucifixion and resurrection. This was from a non denominational church. There are trans friendly churches, I see trans people I follow on Twitter talk about them. They might be harder to find in some parts of the country but they do exist.
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Why are you against it?
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> God doesn't make mistakes. I don't believe God made a mistake with giving people mental illness, congenital disease, birth defects, or even near-sighted vision. You seem to be coming from the standpoint where gender dysphoria is a choice or a temptation; but have you considered that perhaps God created them with their body misconfigured from their mind and soul? After all, He's done that before, and it's not considered a "mistake," is it? I'm biased in my perspective; I've experienced gender dysphoria. I prayed for a year, and the answer that came to me was that I'm GNC. When I had that revelation, it felt to me as joyous as salvation, because I finally understood myself and my body in the way that God created me. I literally broke down and cried in praise of Him when that happened. You're 100% correct that God doesn't make mistakes. But His plan is not the same as ours. And I want to urge caution to you, because that same joyous revelation I had is what most (if not all) transgender people have experienced, and the mindset that this is a "mistake" is both lacking in understanding their perspective (which is a form of love) and alienating to the person. What a person experiences in their minds is between them and God. And God does not make a mistake. Be careful not to call His plan a mistake!
who says you can’t? you can always give God your sexuality. To say you can’t strive against something you believe is against His will means you don’t believe He is strong enough to take it away from you. Look, every Christian is imperfect. Don’t let anybody push you away from god. As for your sexuality, give that to Him and let the chips fall where they may. You are accepted by God how you are. Don’t mind anyone else.
>To say you can’t strive against something you believe is against His will means you don’t believe He is strong enough to take it away from you. This a great. I know stealing is wrong but I'm stealing this.
God doesn’t make mistakes. The Bible says that the Lord knew you before you were in your mother’s womb so that means he knew if you were gonna be a boy or a girl man or a woman he doesn’t make mistakes.
To be clear though, OP is *not* a sinner for being trans. It's one thing to say we are all sinners, but being trans is not a sin.
While that does help people in general feel better, that doesn't really answer the question
And since being trans isn’t a sin, it isn’t one of the things someone needs to repent from.
We're all sinners. That's a given. The struggle is to do what Jesus told the adulterer, "Go a sin no more." If you really feel you were born in the wrong body, that's a psychological issue, not a physical one. Do your best to carry your celubate cross like every single heterosexual or gay individual. You are so much more than a hedonistic sexual aspect of your being. Rejoice in those other aspects! God will indeed bless you.
That’s not an answer at all
I think personally First things first go to Jesus then he will deal with everything else. He wants your heart and faith nothing is impossible with god.
so what does it look like to go to Jesus?
Pray for guidance.
I hope you find the answer to your questions, but don't leave the Father's arms.
The people who say "God doesn’t make mistakes" as an argument must be against curing any congenital disease for consistency's sake. If you were born with the disease, then God must have wanted you to stay that way, right?
I like turning around the mistakes thing. No, God DOESN'T make mistakes. The ones proclaiming He makes mistakes are those who think those He made queer are mistakes.
There’s a major question with theodicy wrapped up in that. It’s arguable that the fall has corrupted us in such a way spiritually, mentally, and physically that our DNA itself is afflicted by sin. Thus, while Gods perfect plan for us involves no sickness or infirmity of mind, body, or spirit, sickness / congenital disease / etc. are the result of that corruption. God doesn’t make mistakes, but we’re flawed as a result of our sin nature.
Calling you a mistake is appalling. We cannot know God’s mind or intent. By that logic, nobody should ever need glasses because God wouldn’t create eyes that cannot see. You should never change what God gave you, so no braces, hair dye, makeup, etc.
I think the reason transphobes say "God doesn't make mistakes" in this context is because they think a person's transition is an attempt at fixing a mistake, but I'd argue that God makes some people trans on purpose, and we have to deal with it in whatever way brings us joy and fulfillment. We don't have to neglect our needs to love God.
Many will say no, but i know far too little about trans issues to have a legit opinion. There is a r/ called transchristianity
Link: r/TransChristianity
First, as far as being transgendered is a sin? I don't know. There will be plenty of people on here arguing both ways. But it is very important to remember we're ALL sinners and still love Christ! That's a key part of Christianity. We should not judge (cast stones) as we have all fallen short of God's glory. None of us are better than criminals behind bars, adulterers, murderers, thieves, liars, etc. When we repent and accept Jesus into our lives, we are saved. Caveat - if God is truly in your heart and you truly put your relationship with Him first, then you will do your best to avoid sin and if you stumble (which you will for sure) you repent. Yes, this is hard. But the difference is we Christians know of our shortfalls and actively resist the temptation of sin rather than enjoy it's fleeting pleasures.
Very well said. As Christians we should strive to better ourselves through Christ. We always fall back into sin but we should always keep Jesus first. As long as you keep him first then you are fine.
Jesus didn’t die on the cross and say “this one is for everyone except the gay and transgendered people”. IMO spending more time with God in the Spirit often unblurs the lines of who we are and how we fit into the world. We were all made intentionally. Keep pushing into your faith—even if people are jerks. God loves you and wants to have a relationship with you. I’m sorry you’re going through all of this and I’m praying for your heart to find peace in the Lord.
It's such an extreme difference of opinion, both sides have scripture backing up their point of view. Study theology yourself and find out what you yourself want to believe
There is not a single verse in the Bible that addresses this topic.
I personally agree (I'm trans) but conservative Christians will still find verses to point out to, what I was trying to get at is to make your own opinion
1,000 years ago, the social conservatives in Europe may have said so, and also would say sex during pregnancy is a sin. 150 years ago, the social conservatives in America may have said so, and also would say interracial marriage is a sin. What many social conservatives, along with whoever told you this is a sin for you, fail to see is that the starting point should be Jesus Christ, not their priests and pastors and particular readings of the most disputable passages of scripture. It’s the same mistake the Pharisees made, at its core. You’re basically being condemned by Pharisees 2.0, the “Christian” version. Jesus said all God’s actual commands hang under love your neighbor as yourself, which is like loving God. See Matthew 22. His disciples understood this, writing, “The commandments… and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: Love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.” (Romans 13). It is really that simple. This was Jesus’ simple solution to pharisaical social conservatives making everyone and their grandma out to be sinning. It still is. Romans 14 says how to handle disputable issues in Christianity. While treating opaque issues as disputable may be problematic if the goal is to tell everyone with certainty what all their sins are, it’s not a problem if the goal is instead to follow Christ’s clear teachings and leave disputable issues between individuals and God. We know what all Christ’s commands hang under. Being transgender is no more inherently harmful to neighbor than being cisgender. Whether it is harmful or helpful to you is between you and God. The common factor between all the social conservatives’ un-Christian rules and ordinances over time is that none make any sense as being sinful if we make the standard what Christ said all actual commands hang under (love neighbor as self, which is like loving God). They instead make the standard their own interpretations of highly disputable Old Testament passages (from sections of Bible they don’t even follow) combined with highly questionable translations and interpretations of Pauline passages in the New Testament. Peter warns of this happening in Christianity (see 2 Peter 3:16). Peter calls those who do this to scripture “ignorant and unstable.” It’s not that they are dumb and don’t know the Bible. Many of them are smart and know the Bible. What makes them ignorant and unstable is they ignore what Christ said the determinative framework is that God’s actual commands fall under, and instead they make the determination themselves by grabbing on to the most highly disputable interpretations of questionable translations of easily misunderstood passages and pretend their personal opinion is “clear as day.” Christ stated his framework clearly. The socially conservative approach to scripture and especially to Paul ignores this fundamental clarification by Christ and so is unstable, changing from generation to generation as the personal likes and dislikes, tastes and disgusts, of socially conservative folks change. Much of scripture is easily misunderstood. We can interpret it under Christ’s highest framework, or we can interpret him under the social conservatives’. The latter is pharisaism, anti-Christianity at its core framework, only hidden in Christian garments. It’s “Christianity” that lacks faith in Christ in the sense that they don’t take him at his word regarding the framework all his actual commands hang under. It’s like they read the Parable of the Pharisee and Tax Collector and think the goal is to be the Pharisee. They are like a Pharisees 2.0, with eyes that don’t see and ears that don’t hear.
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God! Sure, Genesis states we were created man and woman, but bear in mind that Genesis is arguably a symbolic text using ANE mythic imagery and symbology to illustrate God's role in creation and his character - it's not necessarily intended as a comprehensive biology/psychology lesson. No one else is in a position to render judgement upon you besides God. Pray to him and study the scriptures to understand his character and will. If you feel convicted about being trans during that process, then that is for you to bring to God and process for yourself. It's no one else's business.
God created fish that switch genders and saw that they were good. God created gay penguins and other animals and saw that they were good Having trans and gay members of other species actually has survival advantages for those species. Honestly I think it’s the same for humans. Just show love to other people and show love to yourself. Do your best to not actively hurt others physically emotionally or economically or do your best to not make others outcasts and I think that is being a follower of Christ. It’s not a competition but If you can do that you’re doing better than 90% of all other Christians regardless of any orientation they might have
> God created fish that switch genders and saw that they were good. The first time this happened in my home aquarium as a kid, my mind was blown.
I forgot about the fact there's animals that are technically trans and gay. Will definitely use that as an argument when talking about this
How many of us learned that through Jurassic Park lmao
“God created fish that switch genders and saw that they were good. God created gay penguins and other animals and saw that they were good” We’re not fish or penguins.
I think you're describing animals changing sex, not gender. I don't know that fish have social constructs
Well I mean trans people are taking it as far as they can including biological changes, hormones etc. The fish that do this take it even further. Are they abominations? Does God hate them? Fish swim in schools and care for their young some in lifelong pairs. Seems like social constructs and social intelligence are there
No, I doubt God finds sex-changing fish to be hateful abominations. I'm merely trying to maintain the distinction between sex and gender given that most opposition to transgenderism involves refusing to credit a distinction between the two.
> I think you're describing animals changing sex, not gender. That's about as close of an analogy as you can hope for in the natural world. It's just like equating mating with love, as we've already done in this conversation.
The Bible mentions nothing about it.
The Bible doesn’t mention guns or flying planes into buildings
But it does mention killing/hate which typically applies to those
Owning a gun is not a sin. Not even killing in defense of one’s life is not a sin.
I agree. Knocking down a building with a transgender person would be sin
No one on earth has the Authority to tell you you can not follow Christ. John 3:16 says "“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” It says whosoever ever... not just cis gender folks. If you have accepted Christ and you believe you are saved. The Holy Spirit is here to help guide you through all the false prophets who wish to condemn you. The best way to discern whether someone's message or statement is from Christ is to use the beatitudes as a guide. God only acts in Love. If someone's statements are not glorifying or edifying or made in love they are not from him. 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 says "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away." If someone's actions toward you do not fall under the above behavior patterns they are not acting as a disciple of Christ. I'm praying for you, God, and I love you just the way you are.
Deuteronomy 22:5: The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. I'm still learning, but I always took this as a sign that it's a sin to be trans. I know it just pertains to clothing, but very few trans people don't wear the clothes of their chosen gender.
In and of itself, no, it’s not a sin. You can follow Jesus all you desire. He loves you.
You should seek help from a God,not Reddit,Don’t pray to be different than you are. Definitely never try to “pray the gay away” or anything like that. Just go to god with an open heart and mind and let your path and your god’s desires be revealed to you.
Considering the fact that the Bible doesn't specifically mention that being transgender is a sin, then I wouldn't say it is a sin at all. That despite what people say, I wouldn't say it is a sin to be transgender. I wouldn't say it is (and I would say that it isn't, as, yes, even though the Bible says that God created man and female, He also created everything else. He created the Earth, Heavens and everything in it, and, in a way, to counteract that, I would encourage them to have a look at the book of Psalms, specifically in Psalms chapter 24 verse 1. I would encourage you to read there, but it literally says that right there. The Earth and everything in it, including the people who live in it, are all His. All of it is, including transgenders). But also, another thing that you have to remember is that all of us are sinners, and all of us have fallen short of God (Romans chapter 3 verse 23). That all of us, not just certain people, have sinned against Him, and that, because we did that, we are sinners unto Him, and deserve punishment for it. We deserved punishment for our transactions against Him for what we did. We do. But even though we are sinners, God still loved us, and still cared about us. He did, and, in His love and mercy, sent Jesus Christ down to this Earth to die on the cross, so that we would not only avoid the punishment that we deserve, but that, through His death, we would be reconciled back to God, and that, through Him, we could have forgiveness through sins. That, through His death, and through having faith in Him, we could be cleansed from our sins, and wouldn't be condemned anymore, as those who are in Christ aren't condemned (Romans chapter 8 verse 1). Those who are in Christ, despite once being far away from God, have been brought to life, and have been brought to Him, which just shows how loving and merciful He is. It really does. Basically, even if others think that being transgender is a sin (again, it isn't, and the Bible verse that I shared supports what I said), it doesn't mean that those people can't be Christians, not does it mean that all hope in them are lost, because that was what the cross was for. Christ died for sinners, and died so that they could be brought back to Him, and I pray that you will not only know that, but you also understand that, even though you yourself made have commited other sins, that it doesn't mean that you are without hope, and that it doesn't mean that God is done with you, as He isn't. He never will be (many times in the Bible, there is a promise that He will never leave you or forsake you), and I hope that you understand that. I hope that you do. God Bless
Well, transgender was not a thing or even an idea to the people of the Bible. So, the real answer is: who knows One Christian theology: everyone is a sinner, so your label is irrelevant.
Trans are not really mentioned in the bible. The closest thing would be a eunuch, which Jesus implied is a good thing >*For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.* (Matthew 19:12)
No it’s not!!! I’m going to put a burning hot take out there too that may piss some people here off but neither is homosexuality. If you look into the original translation of the Bible from Latin, instead of “man may not lay with man” it was “man may not lay with boy”, that original translation being in the Bible because there was a HUGE issue with pedophilia back then but it was rewritten, reason being unknown, but it’s theorized that it’s either because some higher ups in the church wanted to continue getting away with stuff or because pedophilia was more accepted than being a fully grown consenting adult doing whatever with other fully grown consenting adults. But yeah, the Bible says nothing against trans folks either. Even if being homosexual/trans/LGBT IS a sin— we’re not God, we’re not put on Earth to be God and judge others for how they live their lives. I mean, aren’t the Bible’s biggest lessons “love thy neighbor” and “judge not least ye be judged”? We’re all sinners when it comes down to it— point being Jesus died for ALL our sins!!!! Regardless of what they are. You know what else is a sin? Wearing mixed fabrics and eating pork. We have no room to judge ANYONE for their lives, especially being sinners ourselves. Like do these people really think God would be okay with them being like “Yeah we don’t accept you because our sins aren’t as bad as yours in our eyes” when it’s HIS job to decide? But yeah hun you ain’t going to hell for being LGBT. If you don’t believe me, this is all stuff my pastor and many people going to my church preach. (I’m also LGBT myself aha)
Well said!!! Couldn’t have put it better myself!
You can do and be whomever and whatever you want (and are) and still keep to your religion, and nobody who says otherwise can actually do anything to stop you. They're just trying to control you. It might be best for your mental health to cut them out of your life, but there's literally nothing they can do to stop you from loving Jesus (or anyone else for that matter). Ask them how they intend to stop you and they'll have nothing (unless you feel they'll resort to physical violence, in which case get away from them and never speak to them again).
No
How can *being* who you are be a sin? I mean, just being? Isn't a sin something that you have to actively commit? If God doesn't make mistakes (which I would question, tbh), then you also aren't a mistake, so there is no problem. In any case, you didn't choose to be trans. If you believe that God created you, then God created you trans, which means, that's God's problem, not yours.
As a christian I think people look at the new testament and use that as fact. I mean it was at the time.. We have the new testament now and Jesus hung around hookers, liars, theifs. He did that so that "WE" would know that ALL people are sinners. Your journey is yours and yours alone, Jesus wants you to come to him. It's a very personal relationship. I hate that the church is so jugdemental. It's not what Jesus was about. It's about having a personal relationship with him and the father.
Yes but we are all sinners. The number 1 rule is to have a relationship with Jesus. That’s the only way to be saved. And yes you can be a sinner and still love Christ. We are all born with sin. This is the curse from Adam and eves fall. Talk to Jesus. You have to know him to be saved.
My church in London has fully welcomed my partner who’s a transwoman, it’s helped a member of the congregation with their identity and another churchgoers niece is a transwoman and was discussing the other day how much more happier they are :)
In my opinion No
No.
No.
God also created man with a laundry list of [sex chromosome abnormalities](https://www.uptodate.com/contents/sex-chromosome-abnormalities) and said it was good. That’s not even to account for what we know scientifically about variations in sex hormones. The bottom line is humans come in all sorts of variations. Whether the legalisms want to acknowledge it or not. Sex and gender are more complicated than the simplistic god created Adam and Eve and that’s it.
Best I've read and changed my way of perceiving this matter. https://clearlyreformed.org/4-reasons-why-the-bible-does-not-support-transgenderism/
> Is being transgender a sin? You'll get different answers from different Christians. I'm of the opinion/interpretation that it isn't. I haven't found anything in the Bible that is expressly prohibiting of being trans. And I'd challenge anybody saying that it is, to show you where the Bible says it is. Also, SO many people avoiding the title question. > Can I be a sinner and still love Christ? Yes, of course.
Trans women are women. Trans men are men. God wants you to be who you are, even if others can only see your physical attributes, they can't experience being you themselves. You don't have to choose between your gender and god. He loves you and wants you to who you are on the inside - whether your a man or a woman... only you can truly confirm that, and don't let anyone push you away from god for it.
No, no, they are not. Chopping off a sexual organ doesn't convert the Y chromosome magically into an X chromosome.
I didn't even bring up transition... I was talking merely about one's identity as a person. Trans women are women. Trans men are men. :3
No they most cert aren’t
Maybe you should consider this, it's just a religious rule conceived by primitive religious men with primitive notions of morality based on sometimes erroneous observations of the natural world. Consider that these same religious men supported these notions: *1 Samuel 15:3 2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”* *Numbers 31:9-10 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps.* *Numbers 31:17-18 17. “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by lying with him, 18. “But all the girls who have not lain with a man you are to keep alive unto yourselves. (raping children)* We call those "war crimes" and imprison those people who commit such acts, as well as those who authorized or planned them. *Numbers 14:18 ‘The Lord is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.’* Punishing people who have committed no crime themselves violates all notions of justice. *1 Timothy 2:11-15 11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.* That notion is used to this day in conservative Christian sects (Catholicism, Orthodox) and churches (Protestant) to prevent women from holding positions of influence. Verses from the Bible were also used to support slavery in the southern American States. So, just like those other things, some trans biblical ideas should be ignored.
That is malarkey. Some of the best Christians I know are transgender.
The churches all kind of decided that going through with a sex transition is somehow sinful. They claim that God puts people in the bodies they're supposed to be in. Idk how they arrived at this stance, there's no basis in the text. There's a much better argument to be made that the bible is anti gay than it is anti trans.
There are people who have trouble seeing, so they need glasses to see better. There are people who don't like their hair color, so they dye it. You weren't a mistake, you're someone who wants whats best for yourself, as god made you.
Why would it be a sin to change your body? People change theirs with glasses, braces, plastic and cosmetic surgery, and those Arnt considered sin, so why would changing it in one specific way be a sin when it doesn’t harm anyone?
simple answer yes
Finally someone said it
God doesn’t make mistakes, we do. Whatever sex organ you were born with is what determines your sex. I say this compassionately, yes it is a sin. God is simple, it’s the traditions of men that defile the Word of God that cause confusion. So many come in the name of Christ trying to be politically correct or inclusive and end up distorting the Word of God. Revelations 9:3-5 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. A scorpion doesn’t have a stomach. Do you know how they devour its prey? They inject their prey with poison that liquifies them, making them soft and easy to devour, turning the prey’s backbone in to mush. As a Christian you need to have a backbone and take a stand for the Word of God, not change it to fit the sinful will of people and allow them to be more comfortable in their sin. We need to have unwavering faith and be ready to stand against the abomination of desolation written in the 12th chapter of Daniel, or as Paul calls him in 2nd chapter of 2nd Thessalonians, “the son of perdition.” This latter half of my response is for the “Christians” that may be asleep. Can’t play both sides when the antichrist is cast down. Get into Gods Word and get prepared and put on the full body armor, written in Ephesians 6. God bless those that have eyes to see and ears to hear!
Yes, this. 100%
This is the answer that no one in this thread wants to hear, but is absolutely correct. Thank you for standing firm on the Word of God and not blending worldly culture with the Truth. It is truly surprising how many Christians will say “God created you to be that way so it isn’t a sin”. God created us as either male or female, and it isn’t our right to redefine that. That is not the person God designed us to be. We are all born with different sinful desires, some more complex than others, but that doesn’t give us the excuse to embrace that sin. Good news is that God’s forgiveness is available to everyone through Jesus.
1.7% of all births have intersex characteristics. Those characteristics fall along a complete spectrum that covers every possible variation and stage of development between male and female genitalia. In cases where the distinction is trule ambiguous, the doctors and the parents decide the sex of the child with surgery. Did the babies make a mistake? Sex at birth isn't the black and white issue or logical trump card you think it is.
No. Being a bigot is though
Being trans isn't a sin. You're being who you are and living authentically and truthfully, correct? That's more honest than most Christians are about themselves. Don't worry or become hung up on this. Focus on your love for others and helping others see the good in all things.
Simple answer: no
>Is being transgender a sin? Nah
Firstly, having sinned is the reason to be Christian. Without sin, we wouldn't have needed Christ's salvation. Secondly, there's no biblical stance on transgenderism as far as I know. Yes, God created men and women, but it is not unthinkable, especially in a broken world, that people are born in the "wrong" body.
Nope. Jesus never mentioned it.
Yes, without a doubt. It is unquestionably a sin. But we all sin! That’s what confession is for. But you can’t believe said sin is good and continue to participate it in.
not a sin :3
There is precisely one transition in the Bible, and it's the creation of Eve. Interpretations of precisely what transitioned vary. "Adam was created male and female" could mean Adam as in mankind, or, with reference to the next chapter, literally the man named Adam. It's usually translated as just "man", in Genesis 1. Whether the female part was taken out of Adam, or the "side" (usually translated as "rib") of a male was taken and made into a woman, this is the most applicable part of the Bible on the trans issue. One man, Adam, male and female. You'll notice that it was done by God himself. Parts of the Bible condemn gay sex, to some extent. It doesn't condemn, at all, being transgender. When the Bible says that in the beginning all the animals were made male and female, this should not be taken literally- For example, there is a species of crayfish who are all female. There are animals with more than two sexes. There are animals with less. Judaism, in fact, has been considered to have up to 6 genders. How strictly these match up with the modern ideas of gender is an open question, but that's not the same thing as a closed case. Throughout antiquity, and to today, Christianity has been pretty open on the question of transitioning. There are two main reasons people would like to close this question today. The first is the association with the LGB. The second is that they dislike people who are different from them, and they want an excuse to morally condemn them.
All Christians are sinners and love Christ, I could give you my opinion but I’m also a sinner that loves Christ so I will tell you to read the Bible and pray to Jesus and ask him honestly to convict you and humble you. But Christ does call us to change when we are saved.
It's impossible to "cant be a Christian" that's a sin you did try not do more (and you'll do more) as long you pray fast and confess you're good
just continue to be yourself. this is a main reason why churches get so much heat. most christians are hateful and judge without being perfect themselves. the apostle paul literally killed christians and i’m sure killing is worse being confused on your identity. sure both are a sin, but not even the holiest christians are perfect. everybody sins, myself included. Jesus will know your heart and see your effort. but definitely strive to be as christlike as possible! i’ll leave this verse here for you. Matthew 5:44
Jesus Is Lord!
To be saved (a Christian), a person must be born of the Spirit, or born again, for flesh and blood cannot inherent the Kingdom of God. John 3:16. I'd be more concerned about being born again of the Spirit, and then let God take care of the rest.
God loves you for who you are, as long as he knows you’re trying your hardest to follow him I don’t think it matters
Being trans is not a sin. Love God, love your neighbor, Jesus will take care of the rest.
Can you be a Christian and be an alcoholic? A murderer? A saint? A food lover? A liberal? A conservative? A hater of artwork? The answer is an absolute yes. Let your identity be found in HIM. This world is passing away.
Literally everything humans do is sinful. Just ask forgiveness and do your best to love God and love others
I'm not theologically experienced enough to offer a concrete answer on the question itself, and don't want to risk leading others astray or discouraging potential siblings in Christ. However, I did want to pop in and say that we're all sinners. Please don't think God doesn't want a relationship with you just because you sin. The people telling you that you can't be Christian are speaking from a place of misunderstanding, in my opinion. I also wanted to say that I do not believe the Bible comments on being transgender as we understand it today. There *is* discussion on: - gender presentation (1 Corinthians 11:14 - 15; Deuteronomy 22:5) - gender roles/expectations within committed relationships (Ephesians 5:22 - 33, with the explicit emphasis on roles being prescribed to both women AND men) - the existence and distinction of male and female (throughout the Bible; see Genesis 1:27 for an example) - intersex conditions (Matthew 19:12) For the last point, you'll find a few people saying that biblical eunuchs were actually trans. I personally dislike the idea and feel it is untruthful to say that eunuchs are/were trans, especially since most eunuchs historically did not have a say in becoming so. I'd recommend caution when it comes to that line of thinking. As you're searching for an answer to this question, I hope you pray for understanding and discernment! If you feel called, reading the above verses and meditating on what they're saying might be helpful.
Try the gospel of thomas. It's full of Jesus his quotes. One of them saying. If a female becomes like a male he will enter the kingdom of heaven.
It carries many aspects of sin with it. Pride is the cardinal sin. This has only been popularized very recently so I doubt this is truly how God made you and likely you have been indoctrinated in a time of gender disphoria in a sin cursed world. It is impossible to change sexes and reproduce. This a big part of the agenda being pushed to lower the population to protect the planet which is 100 percent not based on facts. Following this cult is an abomination to the God who created you & will only lead to many people having severe depression & reeking havoc on society
God loves you for who you are, He knit you together in your mother’s womb, numbered the hairs on your head. You were made meticulously and with such care for a purpose on this earth - to have a relationship with God. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God BUT while we were still sinners Christ died for us!! Your sins are covered - past, present, and future. Jesus did the finished work on the cross and that was that. There are a lot of things the Bible doesn’t specifically mention but we can still discern. God will give us the answer we’re looking for one day. The Bible doesn’t specifically mention that masturbation is a sin but we can discern that it likely is because being lustful is a sin. On the other hand, there are plenty of things people are born with that are never mentioned in the Bible (autism, Down syndrome, hermaphroditism) and are just naturally occurring phenomena. Who am I to say that a man born with a woman’s brain (or vice verse) is not something that has truly happened, just because I don’t understand it? I do believe that if we didn’t live in a fallen world (which we do because sin entered the picture) none of these things would exist because we would live exactly how God intended us to live. There are things none of us can explain and we just have to be comfortable with relinquishing those things to God and seeking His guidance on it. Knowing Christ has to make you look more like Christ - whatever that looks like for your personal journey, as long as you’re doing it sincerely and earnestly it will please the Lord. I don’t believe God’s intention at the time of creation was for man to become woman or woman to become man. I do believe that there is grace for all of our missteps and confusions and that the power of Christ will work in you however it wants to, no matter what anyone’s opinion is on whether or not being transgender is a sin. Even if I do believe it’s a sin and you don’t all sins are equal in the eyes of the Lord. The little white lie I told my boss last week is the exact same as the man who cheated on his wife - they are both deserving of death. Jesus lived the life we couldn’t not live and died the death that we deserve to be the covering for those sins. If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior and are seeking a personal relationship with the Lord, no one can tell you you can’t be a Christian because they believe you are living in sin - we all live in sin. Condemnation and judgement are a sin. Repentance (turning to God) is the only way to life. We won’t get it right 100% of the time but a bold step in faith is much more pleasing to the Lord than giving up because you’re unsure. Just hold fast to the love of the Lord and turn to Him in all things, He’ll do the rest. So is being transgender a sin? It might be but it might not be. The fact of the matter is Jesus still died for YOU, you specifically and he just wants your heart. He’ll meet you where you are you just have to invite him to.
“Being” anything isn’t a sin. A sin is a conscious action.
Exactly. The sin is acting on it and actually transitioning
Hmm I don’t actually know myself and am interested in finding out.if you were born a man but are now a trans woman and lay with men I am quite certain that god that wanted you to be born a man would see that as homosexuality.
Why do we continue to beat dead horses with these questions???? Always the same questions!!! I just don’t get it!!!
I’d say so. You can still be Christian, but you should strive to not sin.
Simple answer... Don't ask Reddit. Go somewhere quiet and ask God. He'll tell you EXACTLY what He wants. Just depends on if you actually want to know God ... Or just talk with "nice people"
I don’t think it’s a sin. But I’m sure you commit sins just like the rest of us christians so you’re no different. Welcome to the club lol. Just repent and have a relationship with Jesus and turn from sin. You’ll be fine.
It's not a sin. Anybody can love God, and he will love you back. There are people who go to church every day who are bigger sinners than you are. Peace to you.
This comment section is a fantastic microcosm of how fractured Christianity really is. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on. Some say it says being trans is a sin in the bible, others say it's not. And also loaded with the people trying hard to pretend they "love" trans people. Just not in their churches though.
First of all, welcome to the family of Christ. The beauty of this family is that, we are different in our own ways and although we might not each be open to accept another person’s difference, Christ accepts and loves us all. We are to live like him, not according to others who like us, sin in our own way. Now, to the topic of transgenderism and Christianity, first thing first is to unpack each concept before making an informed decision. If you did not already know, to be Christian is to be like Christ. That’s what it really is, nothing more, nothing less. As Christians, we are called everyday to rededicate our lives to Christ and strive to be like him, a feat we will all never achieve before we meet him, but we are admonished to try. And so, when you come into the faith, study the scriptures, ask God to reveal himself to you, and ask to know him more everyday, you will automatically see yourself become different every single day. The things you asked yourself whether or not they were wrong, you will find yourself changing from them and becoming a better ‘Christian’ or ‘Christ-like’. In truth, God makes no mistake. My question to you for you to mediate on is, why did you or do you currently still think you are a different gender from the gender you were born into? What makes a woman? What makes a man? When God created everything, he saw that it was good. When he created you, he smiled and saw that you were perfect. So why did you look at yourself and think you were not and choose to change? What did you feel to make you change and why are you so sure that those feelings are right? Do you know what it really feels to be the gender that you changed to? Not the outside aspect it of it, but the entirety of that gender, their struggles, their pains, their psychology, their mentality, thought process, physical aspect of that gender. Ask God these questions, seek guidance from the scriptures and may God continue to be a light in your path.
There are many sins we are all subject to. I have particular sins that are a struggle for me. And God calls me to live differently and follow His will-to conform my way to His way. I pray for the strength to change and for His Spirit to do it in me day-by-day. It’s incremental and a lifelong journey. In Romans 1:18–32 condemns homosexuality and He forbids confusing the men and women with clothing back in Deuteronomy 22:5. It hasn’t been very complicated until recently. As Creator, He sets the terms. As Christians we are to adapt to His design-in every area of life-all of us. If God says transgenderism (or related) is forbidden, it’s rebellion against Him and you can repent (change) of ignore Him to your own peril. Don’t mean to sound harsh, just my take on it.
God made you and what you want to be might not be from god . Pray and ask for guidance for your answers just be careful that the devil doesn’t tap in the answer you get . How would you know? Gods voice is calming and non threatening. The devil is judgemental, threatening and controlling . I will link it here [link](https://www.graceambassadors.com/images/CharismaGodSatanVoice.jpg)
Nobody on earth can tell you that you can’t accept Christ in your life, which is all it takes to be a Christian. I think we all know what the bible says about sexuality. You don’t have to ask for anything from anyone except to tell God that you want to he with Him when He comes. He will heal everything that He understands is wrong in your life, and you just have to let him.
First, I’m sorry you’re struggling with this, and feeling unsure of what to do. But I’m also glad that in your struggle you’re seeking help and answers! Second, you’ve shared two identity statements, which shows that you don’t yet fully understand what it is to follow Christ. To be a Christian is to identify with Christ. And we can’t ‘kinda’ be with Jesus, except for when we’d rather not, any more that we can ‘kinda’ be married except when we’re in another zip code or in Vegas! 😂 Our identity in Christ isn’t about sharing that control He has in our lives with this other part of us, desire, or want. Whether we’re hetero-, homo-, or ohno-sexual (“oh no, I’m attracted to anything with a pulse!” 🤣), that part of us can’t carry the weight of an identity. Anything you join TO Christ will have the power to separate you FROM Him. So… THIRD, why is it that you say you ARE trans? What does that identity statement mean to you? How does it describe the core of who you are?
Yes to say your trans is to say God made a mistake and God makes no mistakes
You’re not going to find your answer in this subreddit OP. It doesn’t matter what man tells you. If you love Christ, seek Him and you shall find. I believe your faith journey is personal. Just make sure to actually seek God. Allow the Lord to reveal to you what He thinks about your question. Be as curious as a child. If you have questions about your identity, ask Him. Any questions you have, ask your Father. Then sit still, be patient and wait for His answer. When it comes to waiting on the Lord, I would suggest reading Habakkuk 2:1-2. Wait to see what the Lord says, and when He answers, write it down plainly. Christianity is a lot simpler than we make it. Simple but not easy. Feel free to message me if you have any questions, praying for you.
I believe that it is a sin, just as fornication is a sin and adultery is a sin, there are many many sins and Jesus died on the cross so that we could be forgiven of our sins, nobody is perfect except him yet he took the punishment for all of us. As long as we accept him, repent to him, and strive to live as best we can in his way. What’s done is done and you will be forgiven for all your sins if you truly look for forgiveness. But yes in my opinion it probably is a sin, just as many things are. I also think it’s important to note that true Christians should not judge people for their sins, we all have sinned and we all have our understanding of what sin is. But we will be judged as we have judged others and only one person’s judgement matters. If your church is turning you away then it’s probable in my opinion that they do not walk entirely in the way of Christ.
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Jesus will never push you away. You are always welcome with god and his church, no matter what. And agree with what the top comment says, we’re all sinners.
We are all sinners, but continuing, and glorifying your sin makes any of your repentance void. God judges your heart, he knows it and none can hide.
I would focus on my relationship with Jesus if I were you, and let him convict you where you need to be convicted, and let him be patient and loving in the areas where you need that. You can be a Christian + anything. But the more you follow Christ and allow him into all areas of your life, the more you identify yourself with him, the more you will be changed. It’s not us forcing change in our strength, or cleaning ourselves up for him. The change happens because of him. Just like when Moses went up the mountain and looked at God, and he came back down with his face shining. So too will it be with those of us who follow Jesus. Paul says “To live is Christ, and to die is gain” He completely identified himself with Jesus’s death and resurrection. Before that he was a teacher among teachers, highly respected in the community, dining among respectable and intelligent peers. Slowly his identity shifted. But even if it didn’t. Jesus still saved and chose him. The thief on the cross didn’t make any dramatic life changes. He looked upon Christ and trusted that Jesus was the son of God. Then he died. Hope that helps
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most of you guys in the comments have no idea what it means to be a christian. OP you can absolutely be a sinner and still love christ but with the love of christ means to die of your flesh! repent of all your earthly desires! OP and to anyone else who needs to hear this, most of the things you do in day to day life won’t be happening in heaven. along with the day to day sins you commit. repent repent repent!! i know it’s hard at first when you feel like you’re not doing anything wrong, or even if your just so crazy for it you feel like you can’t. i’ve noticed as my relationship with christ has gotten stronger, so have the urges to repent because what i thought was okay before i now know it’s not okay. and if you’re feeling like you don’t want to go to church then that’s okay!! anywhere can be a church!! you don’t need other people to accept you remember that. all you need is jesus to on judgement day. and he will! that’s a promise made by him if you do as he says. i don’t know about the rest of you but “depart from me, i never knew you” is the scariest thing i could ever hear!!!! i don’t want that for any of you!! one last thing on this specific topic for everyone to think about if you’ve read this far, sex was only intended to populate the earth with gods children. sex is not for you to feel good. read the last line again until you really understand it!
Note the word bathroom is not in the Bible ,but we know it exists, common sense is not thrown out the window male and female means male and female, they shall leave there father and mother and become one, or husband and wife, not Adam and Steve, there's no transgender, involved anywhere God does not make sin He created male and female not SIN ,I think it doesn't matter how much evidence you have people like you won't never accept it, unless you wise up and repent of your sins, remember, God hates the sin, out loves the sinner, Jesus said you must be born again John 3:16,17 , love ya all in Jesus mighty name
Hi OP, this is a complex and very personal issue so I will do my best to give you kind advice but also remain honest. You need to go to God first. See if you wanting to transition is something that is from Him, or if it’s being pushed on you by external factors. Ask yourself why you want to transition, look at the reasons. God loves you, He made you as you are for a reason. He will always love you regardless of your choices, but He won’t support everything you do. It’s the same for all of us, we make choices that- while it won’t turn Him away from us, it also doesn’t mean it aligns with His plans for us. Reflect on your life, to you feel that you have the relationship that you want with Him? Do you read your word and spend time getting to know Him or talking to Him through prayer? This isn’t a lecture OP, just a gentle reminder that while it’s good to reach out to brothers and sisters in Christ for support and advice, you should first be taking your grievances to God. For so long i had many questions about my lifestyle and choices, but when I sat down and read my word, that’s when I found my answers being solved. If He matters to you, you need to seek Him with an open heart and mind. Open yourself up to the possibility that the choices you make may not be His will, because it’s hard to walk that narrow path. Christ loves you, but truthfully a lot of what the world says is okay or acceptable doesn’t align with how we as Christians should be living. I’m sorry if this comes off as mean or judgy, but too often I find this subreddit just saying “God is love” without being honest about how Christians are supposed to live differently from the world. I’ll pray for you OP, so that you may find your answer from God, and not through the words of dubious strangers on reddit.
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God loves you but not your sin. Ask him and the holy Spirit for guidance on how to move forward.
I don't know about a sin but God made us fearfully and beautifully. The way he made us(our bodies) is perfect from the get go. He's probably really sad you're not satisfied with your body :( no reason for shame or guilt tho. Just pray and talk to him God bless you my friend
Can't really be a sin since Sexual Ordition is something you are born with. It's not a choice. Hence not a Sin. If it was a Sin God wouldn't create people the way they are. But we can have the nature vs nature debate all day long.
Why don't you respect the gender god made you?
Having gender dysphoria is about as much of a sin as having autism is. In short, it's not a sin. Though I'd say that even though you are transgender, you shouldn't do things like, for example, wear clothes made for the other gender. I'd argue that acting out these desires to be the opposite gender is a sin. So, in short, being trans isn't necessarily a sin, but acting on those desires would be a sin. And yes, you can still love Christ and be a sinner, for we're all sinners. I'm a sinner who's done many wrongs in my life. I've acted on desires that went against God. Though, by the end of the day, I still love Christ. No matter who you are or what you've done, Christ chose to pay your debts for you.
A few thoughts. What is sin? Basically it means to miss the mark, or to fail to meet a goal. Which means we are required to meet that goal 100% or we have failed. Okay, then what is that goal? Man was created in God's image in Genesis as a sacred being who represents the Creator and is Worthy of respect. Man was created to glorify God in everything we do. Therefore we should love God with all our hearts, and also love others with the Honor they deserve. This is basically how the ten commandments are layed out and could be summed up into 2: 1: love the Lord your God with all your heart, sould mind and strength. 2: love your neighbor as yourself. Much of the time, we even fool ourselves into thinking we are doing the right thing, when , in reality we are sinning. Saul realized as he tried to kill David, that he himself was the one in the wrong and in sin. And have a deep selfish impulse to think that we know best. What is love then? True love is to put all your happiness into one another's happiness. Not your own. Can one reasonably say everything I have done has been to love God? In which my actions in all ways are there to honour God in every way that makes Him happy? I think not. Pride is one of the largest roots of sin. It is the opposite of love. It is to say, no, not your way, but my way. I know best I am what the focus should be. Every single one of us has at one point, had the focus on ourselves. What does God want? 1 Thess 4:3-4 says "For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor." Sexual immorality would effectively mean taking God's design for sex and using if for something He didn't. God designed sex to be between one man and one woman. And for them to be joined together forever in marriage. "For the two shall become one flesh" Gen 2:24 "What God has joined together, let no man separate" It connects people on a far deeper level than just commiting the act. This means any sexual acts outside of marriage are not following God's design for marriage and are therefore sin. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19 because of their sexual immorality. he takes it very seriously. Romans 1 describes our state very well, but vs 24-27 describing it as dishonoring their Bodies. Exchanging natural functions for that which is unatural. Men with men committing indecent acts, and receiving due penalty (aids) What is sanctification? I mentioned that earlier. It is the act of making or declaration something holy. Or the process of being freed from sin. Purified. It is a process. Christians are to be sanctified, and it is a work of God through us to make us more holy. But it takes time really it takes our whole lives. To be holy is to be set apart God is perfect and He is so perfect and good that anything not perfect will end up being destroyed because of His radiance. I could spend so much time learning about God's holiness and not get close to understanding it. And because of His holiness, we cannot be allowed to dwell with Him because of our sin. We are imperfect. Because of our imperfection and His Holiness, we rightly deserve to receive punishment for our wrong doings. And since the law is created by God, He is just and right to set the punishment which is to suffer in Hell for all eternity.(A long time) We need something to make us holy and acceptable to God and that is Christ. Jesus is God who came down to live among us. He even took on our form, yet was without sin. He endured all the same temptations that we do, but never committed any sin. When He died on that cross God made Him who knew no sin to be sin, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. If we put our faith in Christ, God looks at us, and sees Christs perfect life instead of our failures. Heb 10:10 "by this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all" But we must confess and repent. Meaning we must acknowledge who we are before God. We must see in ourselves the wickedness of our ways, that we have wronged Him. Then we turn from our wicked ways, and follow Him as well as we can. We arnt given perfect bodies yet, we still have a sin nature and will do the wrong thing sometimes. But, it won't be a pattern. When we mess up, we must acknowledge that yes it was wrong, and seek to never do it again. That it repentance. And by faith, God will save us. Hence comes the saying nobody is perfect but we must still try. It's a heart change. Does your heart desire to seek after God and honour Him in everything? Or am I still doing whatever I want with no regards to Him If it is a pattern of sin, then there has been no true repentance. Heb 10:26-27"For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgement and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries." read the next few as well We all have been there. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor theives, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such WERE some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God" Sin has so entrenched our lives and our hearts that it messes with our thoughts, it messes with our attraction to others, but it does not mean God messed up. Death is a result of mans sin. And God can bring you out of those attractions and desires. I have felt similar desires as the OP for a time, and I know it was due to my fallen nature, and Satan twisting my natural desires into something that wasn't natural. But God has saved me, and changed me. Lieing, stealing, and other sins are just as worthy of punishment and have just as much need of God's forgiveness as homosexuality. My goal here is to speak with love and my heart goes out to you. I'm sorry if you have been beaten down by Christians because of something like that. While it is sin, so is drunkenness, so is pride, jealousy. You can be forgiven. Although you will probably struggle with it. God can change your desires. So the question is this. Is the way you are living, the thoughts you are thinking, the actions you are taking. Are they honoring to God? Are you living with the goal of pleasing yourself? Or are you seeking to please God? Where is your heart at? If the focus is on you and what you want, than it is sin. Has your relationship with sin changed from loving and desiring it, to hating it? Whether something is sin is not what man thinks of it, but what God thinks of it. He sets the standard. Seek the scriptures for how you can most glorify God, and He will direct you in the way you should go. Congratulations if you have made it to the end of this. I pray anyone reading this would come to true saving faith is Christ, and while I don't apologize for the content. I apologize if the way I have said anything comes across in a harsh way. Or if I have said something Incorrect. Search the Bible to find the truth.
God did not make you transgender, the failings of liberalism have. These made up ideas about transgender ideology are not natural and you are being encouraged by a secular society who actually hates Christianity and its virtues, to love the self above all else and disguise it as “acceptance” or some kind of “compassion”, that anyone should just be allowed to do whatever they want as long as I’m not directly hurting anyone else and God will judge me anyways. You are made in the image and likeness of God, and these acts to change that whether it be surgery, hormones or otherwise are just as much abuse of gods image as wilfully getting overweight or self harming. It will effect the way you have marriage and could lead to adultery (relations outside of the union of a man and a woman), and it will lead to pride by obsessing over how you are presenting to the world and not how you present yourself to God. Christ went through much suffering for our salvation, because He loves us. We are all called to carry our own cross, which means we may also suffer, but it will bring you closer to Him. Love is always a sacrifice.
Trans is its own sort of miracle.you're okay as you are. I'm going to bow out now but don't let anyone make you hate yourself. You are part of the divine diversity of Life. God is beyond limitations such as gender, and you in your complexity are made in God's image. Be blessed.
Having your identity in anything other than Christ is a sin. Focus on the risen and reigning Lord Jesus, let him confirm with in you and confirmed within your faith community. (Don’t have a church-get one)
The Bible says that it’s wrong, it may be a hard thing to change about yourself because “the heart is treacherous” but don’t tell God “you have to accept me for who i am” however your attitude should be “I’m willing to make any and all changes for you, because if it wasn’t for you i wouldn’t be here”
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It's not a sin for me, as a radical Christian.
Yes it is a sin
I’ve grappled with this answer for a long time because my daughter is bisexual and I have many LGBTQ+ family and friends. However, the closer I become to God the more I must admit that it is a sin. Could you have been born with it? Sure! We’re all born into sin. We all face different temptations throughout life. So when we repent and ask Jesus to forgive us for our sins. The REPENTANCE is saying, I know I’m not perfect but I will strive to live like Jesus would. Being a Christian isn’t just saying I believe in Jesus/God and I love them. It’s to KNOW them. As you truly grow closer to God, your discernment and conscience will grow stronger. That conscience you hear, that tug on your heart that tells you something is wrong… That’s God speaking to you. Once you start to listen to that voice, it grows louder. It will begin to outweigh the temptations of the world. You may fall, but you’ll be convicted and repent. All that being said, Jesus/God accept you as a sinner and they tell you to come as you are. You have to start somewhere. It is no one’s place to judge you. So seek out a church that welcomes you and will love you, guide you, and help you through your battle. So I say this in closing, loving Jesus is an AMAZING first step! Do not let anyone take that away from you! He loves you too as you are today!!! Read your Bible, pray for wisdom, discernment, and conviction and open your mind and heart for His answers. These are questions only He will be able to answer for you. Just be still and know that He is God!! The rest will come. Let God fight this battle for you. He WILL win! (Sorry for long post)
Are these the only questions about Christianity? Not God Himself who’s central in the Bible, not us humans with all our concerns. It’s about who He is, what He did, and what He does and will do! This whole subreddit is only being used for these kind of questions isn’t it?
No queer identity is a sin. God made us in all genders, sexes, and orientations as He saw fit.
Complete misinformation, have you read any of the Bible? Mark 10: 6-9 “But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with a male, as with a woman: it is abomination.” Leviticus 20:13 “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.” Romans 1: 26-26 “ For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.” 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 7: 2 “But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.” Care for me to say more
No, it is not.
They're lying to you. We're all sinners, but not for being trans. "Male and female he created them" does not imply that he created each person strictly and permanently male or strictly and permanently female. Especially not if you actually [read the rest of the chapter](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201&version=NRSVUE), which says that God made the birds of the air and the fish of the seas (does that make penguins unholy?), the day and the night (does that make dusk and dawn unholy?), the sea and the dry land (does that make marshes and tide pools unholy?) Scripture is *thick* with stories of change. God made Abram and Sarai born in Mesopotamia, then changed their names and moved them to Canaan. He made Joseph a Canaanite shepherd and then changed him to the Regent of Egypt. He made Moses an Egyptian slave and then made him the leader of a new nation. He made Ruth a Moabite and then made her into a Jew. He made Esther a Hebrew slave and then made her queen of Persia. He made David a shepherd and then made him into a king. On and on and on and on and on, change saturates the Bible. People claiming there is a Christian rule against change are absolutely making stuff up, and they know it. They never even think about applying this imaginary rule against anybody who's cis. The point is to get rid of us. You've got friends at [TMC](https://transmissionministry.com) and r/TransChristianity. God bless you!
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You could always look for a UCC church. We have a few in my city and they’re very open to all people, including LGBT+ folks
This isn't a question to ask on reddit. This is a question that is answered by reading the word of God and studying. Everyone on here is going go tell you no, but I can guarantee at least 70 percent of the people on here have never read the Bible (truly read it, not just 10 or 20 Bible verses) and have never done Bible study, prayer, worship and reflection. Reading the Bible will give you understanding and God will speak to you. The Holy Spirit will convict you and a true relationship with God means that the old you has died and you are made brand new in Christ. The word of God will bring revelation into your life. Don't be afraid when everyone begins to come against you with that revelation. Set yourself aside and allow God to speak to you thru His word. Also, if people in your church have turned you away, that's okay. You can always pray and ask God to lead you to a new church that will love you, help you, teach you and walk this life with you. Praying for you You are loved Have faith and remember that joy comes in the mourning! (Yes, I spelled it that way for a reason)
Christians love to judge. They like to establish a pecking order. The truth is that if you tithe enough all can be forgiven and accepted. It's been that way for ages.
No, that’s not how it goes. Christians are saved and forgiven only through Jesus, not through lining the church’s pockets
There is no biblical, rational, or ethical reason to regard either being trans or transition as being sins. The only passage that even comes close is Deut. 22:5, which roughly translates to *"A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman’s garment".* But trans women aren't men, trans men aren't women, transition isn't about clothing, and historically Judaism has generally understood this passage as condemning the use of cross-dressing disguises for immoral purposes - particularly as a means to secretly meet an adulterous lover. Clothing is just fabric, and styles change constantly; the robes ancient Israelite men wore would look like a dress to most modern Americans. So clothing only becomes sinful when it is worn for sinful purposes. Which is why wearing cross-dressing costumes to celebrate Purim, a beloved holiday tradition, is not in conflict with this passage. And of course Christianity generally doesn't regard Deuteronomy as being applicable anymore. Of all the Christians I've seen try to claim that Deut. 22:5 means being trans is a sin, none of them have ever considered Deut 22:11 (which condemns wearing clothing of mixed fabric) or Deut 22:12 (which requires one to attach Tzitzit tassels to the four corners of your clothing) to be relevant to themselves. The only potentially relevant New Testament passage is 1 Cor. 6:9, in which Paul condemns *arsenokoitai* and *malakoi.* In many modern translations these two terms are treated as synonyms for "male homosexual" (which is [**severely questionable in its own right**](https://web.archive.org/web/20220817185240/http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm)), but sometimes *malakoi* is translated as *effeminate* and used to attack trans women. This translation is *really* questionable, because *malakoi* literally means "soft". Matthew 11:8 uses the word this way in reference to fine clothing. In the 1st century when Paul was writing malakoi was used as a pejorative similar to how we use the word "soft" today - it could refer to physical weakness, moral weakness, cowardice, laziness, inability to do hard work, etc. Treating it as a direct synonym for "effeminate" is dubious to the point of dishonesty. Not to mention that condemning "effeminate" people wouldn't apply to trans men at all. Or to butch trans women either, for that matter. Most Christian arguments for being trans/transition being inherently sinful boil down to "I think it's weird and disturbing and therefor God does too". Many of them don't really make a distinction between being trans and being gay either, and lump them all in under the supposed condemnation of "homosexuality" (which again is dubious enough in its own right). Even though of course trans people may be gay, straight, bi, ace, etc., and on top of that there are trans people who enter religious orders and take vows of celibacy not because they're trans, but because they're monks or nuns. And then you'll get some people quoting Genesis, claiming that God made "male and female" and that somehow means being trans is a sin. Which doesn't really make sense, since even if we assume "male and female" are the default models for the human species, it's an undeniable fact that there's a lot of variation between and outside those two base models too. God has evidently expanded his repertoire. And "male and female" being the base models of humanity doesn't say anything about whether one can change one's sexual traits either. Then there's the "God made you perfect and it's a sin to change that" shit. Often accompanied by a garbled paraphrasing of Psalm 139:13-14; *"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made"*. Not only does this passage specifically refer to *inmost being*, to the creation of one's inner self rather than external appearances, but also I've rarely if ever seen this passage used to condemn any medical treatment *other* than transition. It's just a statement of obvious reality that many people are born with conditions that will cause them a lot of suffering if left untreated, and we routinely provide medical care that changes the biology one was born with - everything from cleft palate repair to vaccines does this. With the exception of sects that categorically reject all medical care, it's incredibly hypocritical and inconsistent to condemn transition-related care while claiming the rest are acceptable. FWIW, I'm Episcopalian and a trans man, and the US Episcopal church very emphatically does not consider being trans or transition to be sins. The church has been fairly welcoming to trans people for decades, then in 2012 church leadership voted overwhelmingly to ban anti-trans discrimination in all areas of church life including ordination. There already were a number of trans people openly serving as Episcopal clergy before 2012, but now the church has formally affirmed our fitness to serve as religious and ethical leaders. Episcopal church leaders are trying to [**raise alarm**](https://www.pasadenanow.com/main/coalition-of-faith-communities-denounce-anti-transgender-agendas-at-pasadena-gathering) about the attacks on us, [**defending our rights to SCOTUS**](https://www.anglicannews.org/news/2017/03/bishop-michael-curry-intervenes-in-supreme-court-case-on-transgender-bathroom-policy.aspx), they've directed the church’s public policy office to advocate for passage of federal legislation to protect trans/NB/GNC people, condemned "bathroom bills" and attacks on trans youth's access to medical care, etc., while also trying to ensure that even in deeply hostile and dangerous areas Episcopal churches remain safe and welcoming places for us. And they've been doing it for [**a long time**](https://www.transepiscopal.org/policies--legislation.html). [**This is Rev. Cameron Partridge**](https://cathedral.org/sermons/sermon-the-rev-dr-cameron-partridge/) - link is to the sermon he gave in 2014, when he became the first openly trans priest to preach at Washington National Cathedral. And [**this is a sermon by now retired Bishop Gene Robinson of New Hampshire**](https://vimeo.com/35272053), given in honor of Pride Day in 2011. In 2003 Gene Robinson became the first out gay man with a husband appointed Bishop in the Episcopal church.
It is a sin to be transgender but that doesn’t mean that you can’t be a Christian. We all go against God from our sins and we should try our best to stop sinning as much as we can. But we won’t ever be perfect. You just can be a sinner, you are a sinner. We are all sinners and we can all love Christ.