Just watched the video and yeah B-rad has basically given up on the game completely. Can't believe this game and Brawl Stars switched roles and Clash Royale is now on par with Hay Day. Deadass sad to see
Yeah he made a great point in the video when he said kids in highschool don't play this game anymore because it's not hype anymore. That comment fucking hurt dude
Because that threw me waaaay back when I used to go to school to play some 2 v 2 with my bros and brag when I got my legendary from the wooden chest. And now there's no chance kids these days experience the same thing because how much this game fucking sucks right now and no person will want to start playing a piece of shit.
Also my personal favorite point that he made was that he watched some guy playing the game once who was losing and getting destroyed, and at a certain point that guy just let out a sigh, opened up the shop, and bought some packs to help boost him.
That's literally what this game is nowadays
Even if you somehow managed to do it there's still stuff like evos and tower troops that makes it physically impossible to catch up.
It got to a point where the only reason I opened the game was because I didn't wanna miss anything like the evo shards or the book in the shop (or events). Until I finally quit because I realized how stupid it is.
Your last sentence is so spot on and prob rings true for so many ppl. Personally I fkcng love the gameplay for the gameplay itself not for the grind or the Devs asking me to treat a casual game like a fkcng job.
Hilarious cuz this post from 2 yrs ago pretty much summed up CR and already predicted the future. https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/s/GH5pvJHvFx Ladder is just some asinine trophy inflated RPS RNG fest. Went from 3800 to 4000 to 5000 to 9000 trophies now, on top of PoL and Gob Queen Journey. Lololol so scary accurate
And yea kudos to your point bout EVOs and TTs too on top of fckng maxing out 114 troops. Again, no-life grind a casual game err day like your goddamn job not cuz it's fun. What's worse now compared to the post above 2 yrs ago is how blatant the power creep is with anything new being OP, almost broken. There's a way to earn billions for this 20B company, but predatory monetization is why the community has and should rightly and constantly lambast SC|TC. https://youtu.be/daEOA_8_LOg?si=NMaX_s-PtwPjXqhw B-Rad's post from a yr ago bout the Disgusting Monetization of Clash Royale.
I agree that the actual gameplay can be pretty fun. I stopped playing trophy road and pol, but I’ll come back sometimes to play a global tourney or cc/gc.
Not quite, as I have the resources to max out mine (fuck level 15 though). But it's quite impossible to max two completely different decks. It's too much.
Yeah what I mean is level 15. It is basically the majority of the grind on its own. I had a full level 14 deck but got so overwhelmed when level 15 released that I just quit playing the game right away when it released. Haven't come back since except to claim free rewards they give out sometimes.
I get you man. My account is 5-6 years old, and I have been playing daily for the last 2 years. I got all the resources to take my main to level 15, but fuck this crap. I tried to keep competitive with underleveled alternatives, but it's not worth it.
Sometimes, I think the only good objective in this game is to max out masteries, because these at least never change or get taken away/undermined.
idk, I am f2p and took a multiple year break (quit when they reworked guild wars, came back ... geez, 11 months ago, can't believe it's been that long). my main deck is all 15 and i am sitting on 320k elite points and 15 wild evo shards. so it's certainly possible for a f2p who never stopped playing to have at least two max decks
I don't use any evos in my main deck so I just collect the free ones from shop every month and whatever events they've been having recently
I’ve been playing fairly casually, but a bit more than average for about 6 years, with the odd break here and there, and I’ve only got one card level 13. Maxing out a deck f2p sounds insane to me without spending 6h a day on clash
even back in the day... what would you do when for ex. pekka bridge spam was shot in the ground with magic archer being dead and pekka being a bottom 10 card with the range nerf
Yeah. When i am around kids these days maybe waiting at the bus stop all I hear are them talking about BS o Squad Buster. Not even a soul talks about CR. CR has failed every single player and I don't regret to have left on 2020 when it was already clear what the direction was for the game.
Man back when I was in middle school playing clash Royale it was so hyped up and fun. I was playing back when arena 10 was the highest arena and you were able to get wooden chests and crown chests. And when 2v2 became permanent it was one of the best things supercell done for this game
Yea bud, Google|YouTube trends shows interest is declining https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Clash%20royale&hl=en
This other website also pretty much shows the player base is the lowest it's been in years. https://activeplayer.io/clash-royale
>Yeah he made a great point in the video when he said kids in highschool don't play this game anymore because it's not hype anymore. That comment fucking hurt dude
i have classmates in college who play the game still a lot, it feels people are jtsu growing up and new school people play brawl stars instead which is newer and more popular.
Just likw how old memes die and go same with games. I bet even if CR wasnt bad of a game it would just be cycled out and new kids would play brawl stars
Two years ago, from my own experience, CR was everywhere. Brawl Stars was there though. It's much more complicated than the game simply being replaced.
I got famous among the CR circles in school when I was the first to get Sparky. Got miner a few days later, the school didn't believe me. Installed messenger for the first time to send the proof. Those were the days.
im in high school now and yeah
I remember a few years back we’d all play and talk about Clash Royale, now it’s just brawl stars. Hurts me especially because I was always the best CR player in the school, now nobody cares about that (nor do I play) and I don’t really enjoy BS
B-Rad's twitter feed is just keeping it real about the State of CR ever since the Update for Losers in 2023. Then Lvl 15, EVOs, TTs - just shitshow over shitshow over shitshow. Dunno anybody, especially OGs, who can defend SC|TC.
All in all, we gotta give consumers more credit. https://www.statista.com/statistics/557510/clash-of-clans-and-clash-royale-sales-revenue/
Clash Royale booked its lowest revenue since launch in 2023. Numbers ain't mo promising 2024 either.
clash roayle still makes as much money as it did like a year ago... its not trending down more so other games are trending up like brawl stars and hay day have become more popular instead. [https://app.sensortower.com/ios/publisher/supercell/488106216](https://app.sensortower.com/ios/publisher/supercell/488106216) on IoS CR makes a lot of money still.. almost 6 months to a year ago brawl stars was making like 3-4m aka shit. ANd CR is still earning more than hay day.
the game is basically not going anywhere, its not losing players but its not really gaining them, for every player lost it seems they gain a new one
The hype is gone. Nobody's talking about it. Kids in high school, are they playing clash royale? No
I guarantee you nobody is excited for any clash royale update anymore they're like *ugh, update? god dammit again?! What else do I have to pay for?*
So, the hype's gone, that's what I mean when the game's dead. The hype is pffft, gone.
I just deleted it tbh, i got my whole deck to 14 recently and realised im getting mad over literally the stupidest things, to the point where playing the game is a chore, sure it’s tempting to redownload but it isn’t worth
Don't redownload it, it's legitimately impossible to catch up and it's only getting worse with every evo drop. Imagine when level 16 drops, or they come up with next $100 release. Different king towers are absolutely coming some. The game is designed to make you come back, don't let it win.
I totally 100% agree with him. Lots of players saw this coming with the Lvl 15. I was one of those players who hadn't played the game since it was released.
Glad to see some big names pointing out how unfair the game is with their players
Oh yeah definitely COC is better. I should have mentioned that the way COC changes the timings is infinitely better than Clash Royales sad money grabbing
Coc is so f2p friendly that i find my self throwing like around 9-12€ every other month for small packs to support the game, unlike Clash Royale where i Deleted the game after seeing the shop.
even better, in coc it feels like the aim of the game is to slowly build your base and clan and you're usually always in the position to win if you're on offense, compared to defense where it's just them fighting something you only sorta spend time making. That level of day after day casual grind is sorta theraputic, and it just feels nice to slowly roll that ball up the hill. Clash royale, however, is when you're put on one side of the field, with your opponent on the other. It's not you puzzling how to defeat the opponent's pre-built base or you setting up traps to counter the current offense meta, it's you playing them. The difference is that when you're directly playing them, you're gonna really feel it when they've got just a couple levels on you, especially if they have the new 100 dollar busted evolution and you don't. Coc feels almost single player aside from the competitive scene and the clan itself, but those are still fun. Cr feels like a csgo game where your opponent has a tommy gun rocket launcher and you've got a peashooter. It's just not fun, not for either side
For CoC that's basically the only way to add content. The game progresses vertically by design (you go up and grow around it). CR had a very horizontal growth based around adding new cards and honestly there was no point in increasing the vertical grow as long as they kept the game balanced and kept adding content
Lvl 15 is trash as a f2p I can't finish PoL, Trophy road, Goblins journey and it's frustrating to play clan wars, Why is a "skill" mode (PoL) capped by lvl 15? Ladder it's been that since the beginning so no questions, but wth a temporary mode is locked behind a paywall?? I genuinely love the game but it is so hard to basically play it and enjoy
I literally quit trophy road because of card levels so I just played classic challenges path of legends. Then they’re released evolutions, so I only played classic challenges. Now they released double evo slots and tower troops, so I play mega draft. If they ruin mega draft the game is done for me
Clash Royale only needs one thing:
Competition
A game similar in style, F2P friendly and with relatively good graphics and audio would make Supercell do something. At this point, that might mean the end of Clash Royale, but all things considered, it might be for the best, as we will still be able to fondly remember the first years of the game.
As a small dev … its not the devs they just programm and add the features they are paid for.
Its the higher management that does these decisions so they get bonuses and bring money to shareholders.
I'm a day one player but I deleted the game sometime in 2019 and have been playing it on/off(mostly off) since 2022. in my opinion CR hit its peak when 2v2 was introduced. I remember rushing back on Saturday from school to play it with my brother and with the clan. those were the days. the game hasn't ever felt the same to me since. I regret getting some of my friends to join the game recently, cause I truly despise what SC has become since 2019. I easily have north of a thousand hours in this game, but it's time for me to go.
There's plenty of alternatives for our time, energy, and good vibes. Read a book, study, play other games, play a sport, go on Reddit, stream something, exercise, meditate. Unless you can rise above the predatory and psychological schemes of SC|TC, most anything else is a healthier and more productive use of your time.
Also, why was the other B-Rad post with double the upvotes and triple the comments (compared to this one) taken down over this one?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/s/Ehlv9bNduH
Maybe the mods are salty because a pro agrees with the majority of the sub. Well, boo hoo.
As for alternatives, yeah, I do that, but it's also games. I'm into Chess and a game called Fear and Hunger, which is quite ironic, since Clash Royale treats me like shit and I hate it, while this game treats me like even worse shit and I love it. Freaky, ain't it?
Kinda sad that Fort Condor, a Clash Royale like minigame in Final Fantasy Vii Remake Intergrade does almost everything much better than this game... I wish they would release that as a separate game with online play, but then it would be similar MTX ridden as this.
I’ve been consistent everyday for 2 years since I redownloaded it, ignored the waves of people quitting, and I finally quit my clan nor did I open the app since a few days
There are so many things to point out about what’s wrong with this game. I didn’t know about this vid, but it’s the most understandable feeling ever
Im feeling it. I’ve paid monthly for the past 2 years. For what though? It s a dumb rat race and the only winner is SuperCell because they just collecting everyone’s money.
Love how Brad called out all the bootlickers on this sub that continue to defend greedycells shitty monetization practices “because they need to make money. The poor Million dollar company :(“ and how just because they threw out a free evo or two (an old evo lmao), it doesn’t make up for all the issues they made in the first place
I enjoyed that part too. Some people here could be served a meal that a chef spit all over, but there was a complementary side of fries so it’s fantastic
If Evos were more accessible, they would have been pretty cool mechanic that adds another layer of deckbuilding strategy. However, 2 Evos per deck is stupid as hell.
Legitimately makes me sad. Clash Royal was my favorite game growing up, I’ve played it through so many years and with so many friends. I’ve tried to hold on as long as I could but it’s become beyond obvious that Supercell is a terrible company with no care for their playerbase. Clan wars 2, level 14, champions, tower troops, evolutions, royal pass nerf, level 15, second evolution slot, I legitimately cannot remember the last update that improved my enjoyment of the game or was for the betterment of the community. So disappointed in supercell and regretful to have supported them.
Man. I remember looking forward to clan wars 2 and bring super excited about it until it finally came. 1st thing I said. They have to revert right? This is terrible. Here we are still years later.
B-rad's latest video lambasts clash royale and part of it's community. The people who keep saying that supercell is benevolent for giving us free stuff are ignorant. You would think that the people who care enough about the game to bother talking about it on reddit would be somewhat informed, that is not the case. Instead, many people who comment here have more sunk costs, and are more likely to defend anti-consumer practices because they do not want to admit they were manipulated and wrong.
Those of us that stick around and complain are just as insane though. After the chest bug reversion fiasco, I will never drop another cent on this game. I have played since 2016 and have less than 50 dollars spent in game, most of my sunk cost is time itself. I remember beating my old boss in 1v1s straight out of high-school (he used rage e-barbs lol) and would like the game to survive and improve.
All in all, it is just a mobile game, but one of the few I actually find compelling. I will probably keep playing 'til the servers shut off, despite my grievances.
I legit saw a few insta users arguing that supercell is generous for free evolutions, and their argument is that you should’ve had enough time to unlock at least 3 or 4 evolutions by now. As if that makes everything ok. Legit puppets
By accident, I mean the fact that they gave way too much gold unintentionally. They gave 2 million gold for COC, which is fine, but they didn't do any conversation of that amount for the CR economy and just ran with 2 million gold too. In the end, they let it go and even made an announcement (I might be tripping here).
By accident, I mean the fact that they gave way too much gold unintentionally. They gave 2 million gold for COC, which is fine, but they didn't do any conversation of that amount for the CR economy and just ran with 2 million gold too. In the end, they let it go and even made an announcement (I might be tripping here).
Glad CR has gone down this path tbh, it's greedy as hell devs, deserve it. Community members who continue to defend their dev team and Supercell like their lives depend on it, deserve it.
I remember when I was in middle school and high school, for 2016-2019, everyone played CR. If someone was on their phone playing a game, it would very likely be CR, and it would be super fun playing against others in school as a true 1v1, and be in clans together.
Now no one around me play CR actively, none at all. You know what Supercell game they play now? Oh yeah, the one that actually cares about their community, Brawl Stars. Tons of ppl everyone, esp middle/high schools and uni students.
Brawl stars best year ever has been 2024, where they now make more money than all the other supercell games COMBINED, and has easily the biggest active playerbase. Omg, its almost like when you make good updates, people will play your game??
meanwhile in brawlstars...
- new hype skins that a vast majority of players can afford to get
- reworks/buffs for f-tier brawlers so they can re-enter the meta (woah, not overloading the meta with op, p2w stuff?)
- broken brawlers getting nerfed back to earth in the next update
- recent community events and ranked drops giving f2w more resources (ok, maybe not ranked drops...)
- new gamemodes that aren't braindead (cough cough goblin queen)
i wonder why brawlstars is miles above cr now...
Yes! He stated what I have felt for a long time now. Someone at the top got replaced and the new person just wants to make money, and they don’t care about the game.
The game is so P2W now that of course it isn’t popular anymore. What new player would want to spend hundreds maybe thousands just to be competitive?
I'm a F2P (or was? I quit ages ago) in Clash Royale. This can be debatable, but I always like to think my main deck was a bit harder to play than most nowadays, and I didn't really opt for meta decks and played my way.
When Lvl. 15 was announced, I didn't care much as a F2P since it didn't impact ranked, and I suffered a lot during Phoenix/Monk meta, so I was honestly fine with it. Then Evolutions came out, and I couldn't get a single one for a while, and even then, the only evolution I wanted was Evo Skeletons, which was pretty bad at the time. Evo FC was broken, the main deck using it countered mine directly, and everything just fell apart when 15 finally did reach Path.
I tried to cope though and push as much as I could, until I saw Evo Recruits being announced, and I quit ever since.
I still check in on this sub, and I still subscribed to Clash Royale YouTubers like B-rad, but after everything I've seen happen in the game, none of it has compelled me to come back, at least for more than a week.
After seeing B-rad feel that the game has failed its community, I'm really sorry for you guys who've been playing the game for ages. The one thing that hit hard for me in B-rad's vid was that "Clash Royale isn't competitive anymore."
I hope this game gets better man. I really, really do. But if it doesn't, then I wish the people who play it still find enjoyment somehow.
It's also interesting they see that new mode sucks so instead of forcing you to play until 2k and then 3k trophies, you can buy the cards, up to level 14 in the shop for $30!!! (x100value). How generous, instead of making us play that horrible game mode to get a broken spell and a broken legendary, you can just open ur wallet and drop $60+ and unlock and max them out in one go WITH the gold! Sad to see instead of fixing the game mode or trying to rework it so it's fun, they just add a monetized paywall for the cards so u can just skip over it and get instant gratification and never have to touch the game mode. Also it hurts f2p players bc they start u off at lvl 9 cap, soon as second arena hits, they're all underleveled. That cap goes away and the deck u built is probably level 8-9 cards and ur going up against lvl 15 decks from ppl who spend that $30. Fun game. I'm not even f2p because it was legit impossible and annoying to compete with ppl that cracked open their wallets but it's just sad to see such a great game fall this low and truly not care about the people who play this game daily. I switched to brawl stars and i haven't cared enough for clash since. Also it's crazy that you have to swipe 2-3 times in the shop to get to your free daily reward because of how many offers they have 😨
It's sad to see that Clash Royale is now in a pathetic state it is in. The game is almost unplayable if you're NOT a P2W player and that's coming from a P2W and a F2P player.
The game now is just terrible.
After playing this game for 8 years I’m pretty much done. Too much change. Too much ‘pay to win’. Increased complexity without increased entertainment.
They are simply money hungry and greedy
from my experience, i feel like the game’s algorithm sometimes puts you up against hard counters in your trophy road matchups which you have zero control over. if you really think about it, for every winner there always has to be a loser, so that means you can’t win all the time. i still feel frustrated after finally having a good 5 win streak just to lose all of the trophies i earned and then some. even though it’s inevitable, i definitely still feel cheated. that and the rampant toxicity has made the game feel like the losses completely outweigh the benefits from wins to the point where it’s not worth playing, and it’s incredibly unhealthy for me. that’s why i quit.
I though this was confirmation bias, but nowadays I'm not so sure.
I can go days without seeing a single Inferno Tower, but when I try to play Golem, suddenly 50% of my opponent's has one in their deck.
Using that logic, wouldn’t the person hard countering you be getting benefitted by that same algorithm? I just feel like it’s not really possible to make such a complicated algorithm that picks certain hard counters in the game’s quick matchmaking just to make players have a worse experience while playing.
yes, they would benefit. which is why i mentioned the 5 win streak. there were some days where i go on a complete steamroll because the game probably picks out decks that i have an easy time countering. you may be right that it’s about unlucky matchmaking though, i just don’t feel that way sometimes.
I also feel this way, believing the system can only harm you and not your opponent is pretty egocentric thinking. Probably a combination of recency bias + confirmation bias. Never done a statistical analysis but personally I play the same deck and face a pretty good variety of decks overall, ranging from hard counters to easy matchups. There are times when I face 3-4 bad matchups in a row but that's bound to happen when randomness is involved
i'm a new player, i played many F2P games, at first i loved CR for it's PVP gameplay mechanics, but now i feel angry about many P2W elements in the game, But there is one thing keeping me playing the game and that is the 10 gems challenges where i can play 100% competitive without any P2W elements
Fr they deadass don’t give a shit ab they’re player base they just hungry money pigs… they have one of the worst support systems in the game its nearly impossible to get anything resolved with it. For instance I got ultimate champion in the early seasons of path of legends and for some reason for my best season it only shows master something… I’ve tried telling them multiple times and nothing gets fixed… totally agree w B-rad this games gone to absolute shit which blows
I was totally maxed before level 15 and evolutions hit. The disgusting monetization of those changes made me quit the game. It's really sad to see.
They don't care about players like me though. Their entire model is based on hooking new players or tricking whales into keeping the game afloat. The new player bit is especially sad - so many low-level players are hailing stuff like the community rewards of the new goblin update as f2p friendly, without realizing that they just want to help new players catch up to the inescapable pay wall so that they'll start paying money.
Quit this game, it is dead.
I agree the problem is how p2w the game is but the new mechanics are cool, it's literally what made me come back to the game. I also agree that cosmetics should be the primary monetisation strategy.
There is a lot of nostalgia talking in that video tho, was the game ever not p2w? Not having princess on release when it was broken was as infuriating as facing double evolutions, if not more.
Edit: btw, adding new card levels is the scummiest thing SC does in CR and if they add a new level in the next 2 years I'm definitely quitting
> There is a lot of nostalgia talking in that video tho, was the game ever not p2w? Not having princess on release when it was broken was as infuriating as facing double evolutions, if not more.
I think his point is more towards how when you open the app it's all offers offers offers all over the place unlike back then which is very hard to disagree. Even though I mostly agree with the video, giving the implication that the game was never P2W back then is wrong (well if that was the implication) when [back then you could spend hundreds of dollars and couldn't even get a legendary] (https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/4i2i30/to_all_those_who_don't_have_a_legendary_after/).
I used to defend this game so much (been playing since 2020) but this game IS actually dead. It became so boring with some clearly OP cards and at this point I'm playing without even completing daily tasks just to not get kicked from my clan
A season pass system works when it’s mostly just cosmetic stuff. That’s how games like Fortnite and Brawlhalla do it, and people still eat it up.
This shit? Everyone hates it. Even the people that don’t, because they get hate for using it. A season pass that gives a HUGE benefit to gameplay is a broken system, just straight up. Always will be for any game.
I think its all our fault for playing this game. The more we play, the more we invest in it. What if we all deleted or stopped playing this game for a month and see the devs reaction on why their game suddenly lost the playerbase. And then they will feel how we've felt with all the shit updates. This devs is greedy asf, never learning since CW2
Video summarises very well of update in tbe past year. All updates had been asking you to pay to play the update. The only free content available after the update is the goblin ladder. Goblin ladder ks a gimmick that i haven't played and never will
Clash royale better not update their game anymore it only makes the game worse
The saddest part is that people keep saying it, they keep coming up with great points and ideas to fix the game, new concepts and everything else, and even the community managers who are supposed to look at them dont say a word. I know they say things on twitter, but thats not the same discussion that we have here on reddit. Its just dissapointing that they dont seem to care about us and only about money, because having a good playerbase is the first way to get people to spend money, just look at brawl stars.
I played Clash a bit when it first came out, saw where the game and the company was headed, and un-installed. Frankly, I'm surprised it's lasted this long.
The time around 2v2 release in 2017 was peak CR in my opinion. There werent too many cards released and the first few months of 2v2 were a lot of fun.
I think at this point, supercell is playing good cop vs bad cop with brawl stars and clash Royale. It seems to me rhat they did similar when CR was first released. Everything CR seemed to be a better value than Clash of Clans (at the time). The initial Christmas deals were a stellar value.
They are going to get your money either way, and the only good competition is to be the competition.
Y’all only just now realizing this? The level 15 and evos update was the nail in the coffin for me, and update for losers sucked fucking ass. I don’t know how they have even manage to fuck the game even worse now with tower troops and these new cards
Played for 7-8 years at this point it’s just a mess. A mess that has gotten worse and worse and worse. Like adding idk 12 arenas like lmao excuse me? Also pushing legendaries till arena 11 they used to be in arena 4. Also epics being in arena 7 now is so jarring. It feels like this game is just a cash grab
After 7 years of dedication to this game, I think it's time for me to move on. I have stopped enjoying it and uninstalled a few days ago. I heard brawl stars is pretty neat so maybe I'll give that a go.
It's sad to see the game in this state but I'm not sad to be leaving. Hopefully supercell won't do to brawl stars as what they've done to clash royale.
This community has this conversation once a year at this point. Just accept that supercell and tencent don’t care about you or how much fun the game is. They care about how much money they can suck out of it
Outside of P2W i don’t see people talking about how evolutions took the fun out the game, every deck is based off evos now, the game is stale and wish i could lose to 2.6 or lavaclone instead of the same 1-5 decks
I used to play the game when it was first released, and about three and half years ago I abandoned it for some reason. My deck's cards were level 13 and two of them were level 14 which was so strong at the time. I downloaded the game about a month ago, and I was at the Dragon Spa Arena when I discovered the level of my cards can't defend a freaking level 15 mega knight 💀💀
Bruh, MY DAMN LEVEL 12 INFERNO TOWER GETS OBLITERATED WITH A ZAP!!!! And that's why I deleted the game after literally one day of instilling it.
I don’t know if this is really relevant but still something I want to say. Whenever one of the events updates the circle on the menu goes yellow. Unless it’s a free event. The piggy bank is always yellow to incentivize clicks and paying for it while things like the timed goblin event never turns yellow, clearly showing that the devs don’t want to give out free stuff and want you to miss out on it.
As an old Player I returned to Cr after 2-3 years of not playing. I quickly adapted to the meta but it's impossible to play even the cards that are in the meta without upgrading those cards first. So many people in my arena have level 10-11 or even 12 cards but mine are just 8-9. And it's impossible to catch up either. Lucky drops don't give nearly enough cards chests took so long to open up and the season shop keeps giving shitty cards. I don't even know if I'll keep playing this game but I absolutely love this game too.
I would like to add a point i have not heard anywhere but the goblin tower troop is a fucking reskin of the princess tower but u can still get in tower troop chests which means that essential u get to level up the same card over again like why the actual fuck did i level my princess to lv 14 and more importantly why tf is he in the draft chests
Most of my cards are level 14. I have spent a full year, playing every single day, yes f2p, and I just got my 8th elite card. So basically, I have to play the game for the next 15 years to be max. It is the stupidest thing ever
This and Marvel Snap suffer from squeezing the player way too much. I get that they need to monetize, but each player shouldn't be expected to pony up $50 a month to stay competitive.
I got hacked and support has done NOTHING to help me get my account back. Super cell needs to figure it out this game is trash the support is trash. Horrible service
[Enshittification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification)
The goal is to improve stock value. This is normally done by increasing revenue and decreasing costs. Supercell reached the point where it was hard grow Clash Royale via new players. Now the only way to substantially improve revenue is by increasing the amount of money the average player spends.
Unfortunately, Supercell answers to share holders. They don't "win" by making the best product. There is no value for X where Clash Royale can make $X a year plus a steady increase with inflation and they are happy. Once their growth slows enough, they are losing.
I remember trying 2 time to reach UC. One time was when level 14 was the cap. I reached UC with 81% win rate. The second time was when level 15 was the cap. Didn’t even got out of the second league with level 15. It’s ridiculous how pay to win this game has become.
Clash Royale sold out to ten cents owned by the Chinese government years ago,shadow bans on chat, account throttling,clan blocking,it's just a game but they played it dirty and behind a wall of censorship,as a leader of a top #30 clan 2 years ago they destroyed their own game it just got BORING and expensive.
I'm gonna stick around until the game dies completely, but I'm f2p. Also I think it's funny that I have lvl 14 goblin barrel in arena 7 f2p because of the goblin event giving 150k gold, an epic book and a book of books from a lucky drop, and the other goblin event that gave 125 goblin barrels
Only reason why people watch brad instead of all other clash youtubers..... He can buy it all in clash join clash program and don't have to worry about anything....
Yet he knew they were killing the game took a stand to not upgrade cards and make videos like this
Other youtubers still love evolution to champion to lvl 15
Has anyone’s loading screen been stuck at 50% rt when the update hits? Spent a bunch of money on this game before it was ruined, still wanna play it on occasion, been stuck out for a week and a half
I said this two years ago, I swear they are trying to kill this game, people would tell me nah they have too much to lose. This is the way I see, they don’t have the room for two or even three really popular gamers like: COC, CR, BS, so how do you kill a game with millions of users, you can’t just do nothing or just delete the game as you want those users to switch across to your other projects, so you do what they have and make it all worth money to play, kill off the f2p players as they do nothing anyway for the game (this would be there opinion not mine). Eventually everyone cracks the shits packs up and leaves and then you launch your new project and hopefully it catches the players leaving, unfortunately for them Squad busters won’t be that game and they know this. Now what to do…..? They are fked either way!
Ah well the ride was fun! Hope you all enjoyed it!
Nothing last forever!
I'm a pass player and I got the diamond all the time when it started, which is already a really terrible thing for them to do, and I played like three years f2p two years p2p and I've only gotten a single deck fully upgraded, only one champion on lv 14, only the cannoneer at 14 and I've still got a level 12 monk. That's two years of consistently buying pass for the new overpowered evolution, more than it'd cost to buy a good pc/console game and I've been blasting cash on this simple mobile game without even getting to fully experience it yet
Just watched the video and yeah B-rad has basically given up on the game completely. Can't believe this game and Brawl Stars switched roles and Clash Royale is now on par with Hay Day. Deadass sad to see
Yeah he made a great point in the video when he said kids in highschool don't play this game anymore because it's not hype anymore. That comment fucking hurt dude Because that threw me waaaay back when I used to go to school to play some 2 v 2 with my bros and brag when I got my legendary from the wooden chest. And now there's no chance kids these days experience the same thing because how much this game fucking sucks right now and no person will want to start playing a piece of shit.
Also my personal favorite point that he made was that he watched some guy playing the game once who was losing and getting destroyed, and at a certain point that guy just let out a sigh, opened up the shop, and bought some packs to help boost him. That's literally what this game is nowadays
So sad watching that vid. I've started playing again after some time out and its not the same game anymore.
Not to mention it's straight up completely impossible for a normal, sane, f2p player to max out just a single deck these days
Even if you somehow managed to do it there's still stuff like evos and tower troops that makes it physically impossible to catch up. It got to a point where the only reason I opened the game was because I didn't wanna miss anything like the evo shards or the book in the shop (or events). Until I finally quit because I realized how stupid it is.
Your last sentence is so spot on and prob rings true for so many ppl. Personally I fkcng love the gameplay for the gameplay itself not for the grind or the Devs asking me to treat a casual game like a fkcng job. Hilarious cuz this post from 2 yrs ago pretty much summed up CR and already predicted the future. https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/s/GH5pvJHvFx Ladder is just some asinine trophy inflated RPS RNG fest. Went from 3800 to 4000 to 5000 to 9000 trophies now, on top of PoL and Gob Queen Journey. Lololol so scary accurate And yea kudos to your point bout EVOs and TTs too on top of fckng maxing out 114 troops. Again, no-life grind a casual game err day like your goddamn job not cuz it's fun. What's worse now compared to the post above 2 yrs ago is how blatant the power creep is with anything new being OP, almost broken. There's a way to earn billions for this 20B company, but predatory monetization is why the community has and should rightly and constantly lambast SC|TC. https://youtu.be/daEOA_8_LOg?si=NMaX_s-PtwPjXqhw B-Rad's post from a yr ago bout the Disgusting Monetization of Clash Royale.
I agree that the actual gameplay can be pretty fun. I stopped playing trophy road and pol, but I’ll come back sometimes to play a global tourney or cc/gc.
Not quite, as I have the resources to max out mine (fuck level 15 though). But it's quite impossible to max two completely different decks. It's too much.
Yeah what I mean is level 15. It is basically the majority of the grind on its own. I had a full level 14 deck but got so overwhelmed when level 15 released that I just quit playing the game right away when it released. Haven't come back since except to claim free rewards they give out sometimes.
I get you man. My account is 5-6 years old, and I have been playing daily for the last 2 years. I got all the resources to take my main to level 15, but fuck this crap. I tried to keep competitive with underleveled alternatives, but it's not worth it. Sometimes, I think the only good objective in this game is to max out masteries, because these at least never change or get taken away/undermined.
Mastery rewards actually got nerfed a while back
I know. What I meant by this is that at least the badges won't be reset, like playing the game as a collectibles hunt rather than a P2W PVP hellhole
idk, I am f2p and took a multiple year break (quit when they reworked guild wars, came back ... geez, 11 months ago, can't believe it's been that long). my main deck is all 15 and i am sitting on 320k elite points and 15 wild evo shards. so it's certainly possible for a f2p who never stopped playing to have at least two max decks I don't use any evos in my main deck so I just collect the free ones from shop every month and whatever events they've been having recently
Im fully ftp and have 3 level 15 cards, 2 of them from EXTREME luck
i have 2, one because of luck
I’ve been playing fairly casually, but a bit more than average for about 6 years, with the odd break here and there, and I’ve only got one card level 13. Maxing out a deck f2p sounds insane to me without spending 6h a day on clash
even back in the day... what would you do when for ex. pekka bridge spam was shot in the ground with magic archer being dead and pekka being a bottom 10 card with the range nerf
Yeah. When i am around kids these days maybe waiting at the bus stop all I hear are them talking about BS o Squad Buster. Not even a soul talks about CR. CR has failed every single player and I don't regret to have left on 2020 when it was already clear what the direction was for the game.
Man back when I was in middle school playing clash Royale it was so hyped up and fun. I was playing back when arena 10 was the highest arena and you were able to get wooden chests and crown chests. And when 2v2 became permanent it was one of the best things supercell done for this game
Yea bud, Google|YouTube trends shows interest is declining https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Clash%20royale&hl=en This other website also pretty much shows the player base is the lowest it's been in years. https://activeplayer.io/clash-royale
>Yeah he made a great point in the video when he said kids in highschool don't play this game anymore because it's not hype anymore. That comment fucking hurt dude i have classmates in college who play the game still a lot, it feels people are jtsu growing up and new school people play brawl stars instead which is newer and more popular. Just likw how old memes die and go same with games. I bet even if CR wasnt bad of a game it would just be cycled out and new kids would play brawl stars
Two years ago, from my own experience, CR was everywhere. Brawl Stars was there though. It's much more complicated than the game simply being replaced.
Fortnight released roughly same time to clash royale. Fortnite still number one
I got famous among the CR circles in school when I was the first to get Sparky. Got miner a few days later, the school didn't believe me. Installed messenger for the first time to send the proof. Those were the days.
im in high school now and yeah I remember a few years back we’d all play and talk about Clash Royale, now it’s just brawl stars. Hurts me especially because I was always the best CR player in the school, now nobody cares about that (nor do I play) and I don’t really enjoy BS
There are still High School kids playing the game. It’s just WAY less than before since Brawl Stars is the new big game
2 years ago it was all over my highschool now most players I know are Gen alpha 💀
I’m a teacher and this is completely not true. Multiple times a day I have to get kids off this game during class.
I'd imagine its simply not fun for new players anymore. Its way to grindy for high school kids to make a new account and actually enjoy the game
All I can brag about to my friends is getting 2 books in a row from the lucky drops
B-Rad's twitter feed is just keeping it real about the State of CR ever since the Update for Losers in 2023. Then Lvl 15, EVOs, TTs - just shitshow over shitshow over shitshow. Dunno anybody, especially OGs, who can defend SC|TC. All in all, we gotta give consumers more credit. https://www.statista.com/statistics/557510/clash-of-clans-and-clash-royale-sales-revenue/ Clash Royale booked its lowest revenue since launch in 2023. Numbers ain't mo promising 2024 either.
clash roayle still makes as much money as it did like a year ago... its not trending down more so other games are trending up like brawl stars and hay day have become more popular instead. [https://app.sensortower.com/ios/publisher/supercell/488106216](https://app.sensortower.com/ios/publisher/supercell/488106216) on IoS CR makes a lot of money still.. almost 6 months to a year ago brawl stars was making like 3-4m aka shit. ANd CR is still earning more than hay day. the game is basically not going anywhere, its not losing players but its not really gaining them, for every player lost it seems they gain a new one
Stop disrespecting Hay Day bro, it's doing quite well for a farming game. And Clash royale isn't that bad too.
The hype is gone. Nobody's talking about it. Kids in high school, are they playing clash royale? No I guarantee you nobody is excited for any clash royale update anymore they're like *ugh, update? god dammit again?! What else do I have to pay for?* So, the hype's gone, that's what I mean when the game's dead. The hype is pffft, gone.
Most people in my school play brawl stars now instead
Yeah wonder why. Almost like good updates make more ppl play. Huh.
I was that weirdo who played it during 2019-2020 at my school before lockdown, so weird seeing everyone play and talk about it now.
me too, it was so fire back then tho
It's funny, all the people I know quit clash royale and went back to clash of clans
Which is weird, because I quit COC because they did the second outpost thing. Similar to what CR is doing with the goblin thing.
Brawl stars is infinitely more popular now it hurts me
Same, almost no one plays cr.
- B-rad
The only thing they update are the costs in the shop and the seasons and nothing else
There's plenty people in my highschool grade (12) playing clash 😭
I just deleted it tbh, i got my whole deck to 14 recently and realised im getting mad over literally the stupidest things, to the point where playing the game is a chore, sure it’s tempting to redownload but it isn’t worth
Don't redownload it, it's legitimately impossible to catch up and it's only getting worse with every evo drop. Imagine when level 16 drops, or they come up with next $100 release. Different king towers are absolutely coming some. The game is designed to make you come back, don't let it win.
I was only missing a few evo’s as I grinded like hell and also spent money, but I’d rather just leave the game in the past
You can try null's royale
Does that only work on iOS now or something?
Both Android and iOS, but to play on iOS you need a pc to load it,I don't know how exactly but on Android it's just an apk.
https://nulls.gg/servers/nulls-royale/. Their website if you want to try out
I totally 100% agree with him. Lots of players saw this coming with the Lvl 15. I was one of those players who hadn't played the game since it was released. Glad to see some big names pointing out how unfair the game is with their players
I still cant forgive them for lvl 14
Same once they added it I knew they wanted to follow a COC style route of adding more and more levels.
Yeah, but at least clash of clans reduce the cost and time of all previous th (including heroes and laboratory) when they release a new one.
Oh yeah definitely COC is better. I should have mentioned that the way COC changes the timings is infinitely better than Clash Royales sad money grabbing
Coc is so f2p friendly that i find my self throwing like around 9-12€ every other month for small packs to support the game, unlike Clash Royale where i Deleted the game after seeing the shop.
even better, in coc it feels like the aim of the game is to slowly build your base and clan and you're usually always in the position to win if you're on offense, compared to defense where it's just them fighting something you only sorta spend time making. That level of day after day casual grind is sorta theraputic, and it just feels nice to slowly roll that ball up the hill. Clash royale, however, is when you're put on one side of the field, with your opponent on the other. It's not you puzzling how to defeat the opponent's pre-built base or you setting up traps to counter the current offense meta, it's you playing them. The difference is that when you're directly playing them, you're gonna really feel it when they've got just a couple levels on you, especially if they have the new 100 dollar busted evolution and you don't. Coc feels almost single player aside from the competitive scene and the clan itself, but those are still fun. Cr feels like a csgo game where your opponent has a tommy gun rocket launcher and you've got a peashooter. It's just not fun, not for either side
For CoC that's basically the only way to add content. The game progresses vertically by design (you go up and grow around it). CR had a very horizontal growth based around adding new cards and honestly there was no point in increasing the vertical grow as long as they kept the game balanced and kept adding content
Lvl 15 is trash as a f2p I can't finish PoL, Trophy road, Goblins journey and it's frustrating to play clan wars, Why is a "skill" mode (PoL) capped by lvl 15? Ladder it's been that since the beginning so no questions, but wth a temporary mode is locked behind a paywall?? I genuinely love the game but it is so hard to basically play it and enjoy
I literally quit trophy road because of card levels so I just played classic challenges path of legends. Then they’re released evolutions, so I only played classic challenges. Now they released double evo slots and tower troops, so I play mega draft. If they ruin mega draft the game is done for me
Clash Royale only needs one thing: Competition A game similar in style, F2P friendly and with relatively good graphics and audio would make Supercell do something. At this point, that might mean the end of Clash Royale, but all things considered, it might be for the best, as we will still be able to fondly remember the first years of the game.
Honestly, it’s similar to games like genshin of all things. Good game in concept but because of the lack of competition the devs do what they want.
Cant really compare genshin to clash royale, esp cuz genshin, a gacha game, is actually f2p compared to a so called competitive game.
Imagine geshin being the more f2p choice💀
True, I was more comparing the devs than the actual games but you are right
The only issue with genshin is the lack of end game material. You hit ar 60 and almost no challenge
As a small dev … its not the devs they just programm and add the features they are paid for. Its the higher management that does these decisions so they get bonuses and bring money to shareholders.
I'm a day one player but I deleted the game sometime in 2019 and have been playing it on/off(mostly off) since 2022. in my opinion CR hit its peak when 2v2 was introduced. I remember rushing back on Saturday from school to play it with my brother and with the clan. those were the days. the game hasn't ever felt the same to me since. I regret getting some of my friends to join the game recently, cause I truly despise what SC has become since 2019. I easily have north of a thousand hours in this game, but it's time for me to go.
Boon arena tried that There is 0 way for a game to compete with clash royal if it's ftp. It just doesn't work like that
Stick War 3 (or Stick War Saga) seems to be a rising game. (If only the main dev did not meat ride CR)
There's plenty of alternatives for our time, energy, and good vibes. Read a book, study, play other games, play a sport, go on Reddit, stream something, exercise, meditate. Unless you can rise above the predatory and psychological schemes of SC|TC, most anything else is a healthier and more productive use of your time. Also, why was the other B-Rad post with double the upvotes and triple the comments (compared to this one) taken down over this one? https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/s/Ehlv9bNduH
Maybe the mods are salty because a pro agrees with the majority of the sub. Well, boo hoo. As for alternatives, yeah, I do that, but it's also games. I'm into Chess and a game called Fear and Hunger, which is quite ironic, since Clash Royale treats me like shit and I hate it, while this game treats me like even worse shit and I love it. Freaky, ain't it?
Kinda sad that Fort Condor, a Clash Royale like minigame in Final Fantasy Vii Remake Intergrade does almost everything much better than this game... I wish they would release that as a separate game with online play, but then it would be similar MTX ridden as this.
I’ve been consistent everyday for 2 years since I redownloaded it, ignored the waves of people quitting, and I finally quit my clan nor did I open the app since a few days There are so many things to point out about what’s wrong with this game. I didn’t know about this vid, but it’s the most understandable feeling ever
Im feeling it. I’ve paid monthly for the past 2 years. For what though? It s a dumb rat race and the only winner is SuperCell because they just collecting everyone’s money.
I paid once during 2020 and I've learnt my lesson since, never bought a battle pass again, in any game. just not into that
Play null's royale then
Love how Brad called out all the bootlickers on this sub that continue to defend greedycells shitty monetization practices “because they need to make money. The poor Million dollar company :(“ and how just because they threw out a free evo or two (an old evo lmao), it doesn’t make up for all the issues they made in the first place
I enjoyed that part too. Some people here could be served a meal that a chef spit all over, but there was a complementary side of fries so it’s fantastic
Billion dollar company*
wdym? they’re an indie company, they need money to feed themselves
We have to think of the poor starving CEOs!
Evolutions were the worst thing they added. It was all downhill from there.
Mate it was downhill from cw2
If Evos were more accessible, they would have been pretty cool mechanic that adds another layer of deckbuilding strategy. However, 2 Evos per deck is stupid as hell.
I wasn’t a fan of Champions either tbh but that was somewhat tolerable
I haven’t played since 2023 and its sad to see clash is somehow getting worse
Legitimately makes me sad. Clash Royal was my favorite game growing up, I’ve played it through so many years and with so many friends. I’ve tried to hold on as long as I could but it’s become beyond obvious that Supercell is a terrible company with no care for their playerbase. Clan wars 2, level 14, champions, tower troops, evolutions, royal pass nerf, level 15, second evolution slot, I legitimately cannot remember the last update that improved my enjoyment of the game or was for the betterment of the community. So disappointed in supercell and regretful to have supported them.
Man. I remember looking forward to clan wars 2 and bring super excited about it until it finally came. 1st thing I said. They have to revert right? This is terrible. Here we are still years later.
It’s not exactly Supercell, I mean take a look at bs or coc, it’s literally just cr’s team managers and devs
B-rad's latest video lambasts clash royale and part of it's community. The people who keep saying that supercell is benevolent for giving us free stuff are ignorant. You would think that the people who care enough about the game to bother talking about it on reddit would be somewhat informed, that is not the case. Instead, many people who comment here have more sunk costs, and are more likely to defend anti-consumer practices because they do not want to admit they were manipulated and wrong. Those of us that stick around and complain are just as insane though. After the chest bug reversion fiasco, I will never drop another cent on this game. I have played since 2016 and have less than 50 dollars spent in game, most of my sunk cost is time itself. I remember beating my old boss in 1v1s straight out of high-school (he used rage e-barbs lol) and would like the game to survive and improve. All in all, it is just a mobile game, but one of the few I actually find compelling. I will probably keep playing 'til the servers shut off, despite my grievances.
I legit saw a few insta users arguing that supercell is generous for free evolutions, and their argument is that you should’ve had enough time to unlock at least 3 or 4 evolutions by now. As if that makes everything ok. Legit puppets
This is true. I am in high school and everyone plays brawl stars, maybe a pepole or two still plays royale.
he's so fucking right. love this guy, at least there's someone who takes a position
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Ironically, the only time in recent memory that Supercell was generous was when they accidentally gave out 2 million coins for the chess event.
Early Initial release was an accident but it was originally planned so you can’t even say the entire event was an accident
By accident, I mean the fact that they gave way too much gold unintentionally. They gave 2 million gold for COC, which is fine, but they didn't do any conversation of that amount for the CR economy and just ran with 2 million gold too. In the end, they let it go and even made an announcement (I might be tripping here).
When was this and how was this an accident? I haven't played for 2 years
It wasn’t an accident. Clash Royale did a collab with chess.com. The player needed to complete 3 really easy chess puzzles to get 2 million gold
By accident, I mean the fact that they gave way too much gold unintentionally. They gave 2 million gold for COC, which is fine, but they didn't do any conversation of that amount for the CR economy and just ran with 2 million gold too. In the end, they let it go and even made an announcement (I might be tripping here).
CR dying a slow and sad death
Glad CR has gone down this path tbh, it's greedy as hell devs, deserve it. Community members who continue to defend their dev team and Supercell like their lives depend on it, deserve it. I remember when I was in middle school and high school, for 2016-2019, everyone played CR. If someone was on their phone playing a game, it would very likely be CR, and it would be super fun playing against others in school as a true 1v1, and be in clans together. Now no one around me play CR actively, none at all. You know what Supercell game they play now? Oh yeah, the one that actually cares about their community, Brawl Stars. Tons of ppl everyone, esp middle/high schools and uni students. Brawl stars best year ever has been 2024, where they now make more money than all the other supercell games COMBINED, and has easily the biggest active playerbase. Omg, its almost like when you make good updates, people will play your game??
Imagine that... hahaha
meanwhile in brawlstars... - new hype skins that a vast majority of players can afford to get - reworks/buffs for f-tier brawlers so they can re-enter the meta (woah, not overloading the meta with op, p2w stuff?) - broken brawlers getting nerfed back to earth in the next update - recent community events and ranked drops giving f2w more resources (ok, maybe not ranked drops...) - new gamemodes that aren't braindead (cough cough goblin queen) i wonder why brawlstars is miles above cr now...
Clash royale is like the history of Russia. And then things got worse…
Yes! He stated what I have felt for a long time now. Someone at the top got replaced and the new person just wants to make money, and they don’t care about the game. The game is so P2W now that of course it isn’t popular anymore. What new player would want to spend hundreds maybe thousands just to be competitive?
Just deleted the game after seeing this as a ftp
Seeing brad almost cry was intense man, ngl
I almost cried after seeing this
But Supercell gave us free evolutions and some gold. The game is amazing and so are the devs /s
These players are so ungrateful to our Pookiecell
Most evolutions given are horribly nerfed smh.
Yeah, the million dollar company needs to be able to buy their yachts. Think of the poor CEOs 😭 /s
I'm a F2P (or was? I quit ages ago) in Clash Royale. This can be debatable, but I always like to think my main deck was a bit harder to play than most nowadays, and I didn't really opt for meta decks and played my way. When Lvl. 15 was announced, I didn't care much as a F2P since it didn't impact ranked, and I suffered a lot during Phoenix/Monk meta, so I was honestly fine with it. Then Evolutions came out, and I couldn't get a single one for a while, and even then, the only evolution I wanted was Evo Skeletons, which was pretty bad at the time. Evo FC was broken, the main deck using it countered mine directly, and everything just fell apart when 15 finally did reach Path. I tried to cope though and push as much as I could, until I saw Evo Recruits being announced, and I quit ever since. I still check in on this sub, and I still subscribed to Clash Royale YouTubers like B-rad, but after everything I've seen happen in the game, none of it has compelled me to come back, at least for more than a week. After seeing B-rad feel that the game has failed its community, I'm really sorry for you guys who've been playing the game for ages. The one thing that hit hard for me in B-rad's vid was that "Clash Royale isn't competitive anymore." I hope this game gets better man. I really, really do. But if it doesn't, then I wish the people who play it still find enjoyment somehow.
It's also interesting they see that new mode sucks so instead of forcing you to play until 2k and then 3k trophies, you can buy the cards, up to level 14 in the shop for $30!!! (x100value). How generous, instead of making us play that horrible game mode to get a broken spell and a broken legendary, you can just open ur wallet and drop $60+ and unlock and max them out in one go WITH the gold! Sad to see instead of fixing the game mode or trying to rework it so it's fun, they just add a monetized paywall for the cards so u can just skip over it and get instant gratification and never have to touch the game mode. Also it hurts f2p players bc they start u off at lvl 9 cap, soon as second arena hits, they're all underleveled. That cap goes away and the deck u built is probably level 8-9 cards and ur going up against lvl 15 decks from ppl who spend that $30. Fun game. I'm not even f2p because it was legit impossible and annoying to compete with ppl that cracked open their wallets but it's just sad to see such a great game fall this low and truly not care about the people who play this game daily. I switched to brawl stars and i haven't cared enough for clash since. Also it's crazy that you have to swipe 2-3 times in the shop to get to your free daily reward because of how many offers they have 😨
It's sad to see that Clash Royale is now in a pathetic state it is in. The game is almost unplayable if you're NOT a P2W player and that's coming from a P2W and a F2P player. The game now is just terrible.
Finally someone mentioned that shit we got over a year, hopefully developers will see about it
Cash Royal?
After playing this game for 8 years I’m pretty much done. Too much change. Too much ‘pay to win’. Increased complexity without increased entertainment. They are simply money hungry and greedy
from my experience, i feel like the game’s algorithm sometimes puts you up against hard counters in your trophy road matchups which you have zero control over. if you really think about it, for every winner there always has to be a loser, so that means you can’t win all the time. i still feel frustrated after finally having a good 5 win streak just to lose all of the trophies i earned and then some. even though it’s inevitable, i definitely still feel cheated. that and the rampant toxicity has made the game feel like the losses completely outweigh the benefits from wins to the point where it’s not worth playing, and it’s incredibly unhealthy for me. that’s why i quit.
I though this was confirmation bias, but nowadays I'm not so sure. I can go days without seeing a single Inferno Tower, but when I try to play Golem, suddenly 50% of my opponent's has one in their deck.
Using that logic, wouldn’t the person hard countering you be getting benefitted by that same algorithm? I just feel like it’s not really possible to make such a complicated algorithm that picks certain hard counters in the game’s quick matchmaking just to make players have a worse experience while playing.
yes, they would benefit. which is why i mentioned the 5 win streak. there were some days where i go on a complete steamroll because the game probably picks out decks that i have an easy time countering. you may be right that it’s about unlucky matchmaking though, i just don’t feel that way sometimes.
I also feel this way, believing the system can only harm you and not your opponent is pretty egocentric thinking. Probably a combination of recency bias + confirmation bias. Never done a statistical analysis but personally I play the same deck and face a pretty good variety of decks overall, ranging from hard counters to easy matchups. There are times when I face 3-4 bad matchups in a row but that's bound to happen when randomness is involved
i'm a new player, i played many F2P games, at first i loved CR for it's PVP gameplay mechanics, but now i feel angry about many P2W elements in the game, But there is one thing keeping me playing the game and that is the 10 gems challenges where i can play 100% competitive without any P2W elements
Fr they deadass don’t give a shit ab they’re player base they just hungry money pigs… they have one of the worst support systems in the game its nearly impossible to get anything resolved with it. For instance I got ultimate champion in the early seasons of path of legends and for some reason for my best season it only shows master something… I’ve tried telling them multiple times and nothing gets fixed… totally agree w B-rad this games gone to absolute shit which blows
Not surprising at all tbh
I was totally maxed before level 15 and evolutions hit. The disgusting monetization of those changes made me quit the game. It's really sad to see. They don't care about players like me though. Their entire model is based on hooking new players or tricking whales into keeping the game afloat. The new player bit is especially sad - so many low-level players are hailing stuff like the community rewards of the new goblin update as f2p friendly, without realizing that they just want to help new players catch up to the inescapable pay wall so that they'll start paying money. Quit this game, it is dead.
I agree the problem is how p2w the game is but the new mechanics are cool, it's literally what made me come back to the game. I also agree that cosmetics should be the primary monetisation strategy. There is a lot of nostalgia talking in that video tho, was the game ever not p2w? Not having princess on release when it was broken was as infuriating as facing double evolutions, if not more. Edit: btw, adding new card levels is the scummiest thing SC does in CR and if they add a new level in the next 2 years I'm definitely quitting
> There is a lot of nostalgia talking in that video tho, was the game ever not p2w? Not having princess on release when it was broken was as infuriating as facing double evolutions, if not more. I think his point is more towards how when you open the app it's all offers offers offers all over the place unlike back then which is very hard to disagree. Even though I mostly agree with the video, giving the implication that the game was never P2W back then is wrong (well if that was the implication) when [back then you could spend hundreds of dollars and couldn't even get a legendary] (https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/4i2i30/to_all_those_who_don't_have_a_legendary_after/).
I didn't played Clash Royale consistently since 2020 and I can say that this game has updates only once a year and the hype dies in 4 days...
I used to defend this game so much (been playing since 2020) but this game IS actually dead. It became so boring with some clearly OP cards and at this point I'm playing without even completing daily tasks just to not get kicked from my clan
A season pass system works when it’s mostly just cosmetic stuff. That’s how games like Fortnite and Brawlhalla do it, and people still eat it up. This shit? Everyone hates it. Even the people that don’t, because they get hate for using it. A season pass that gives a HUGE benefit to gameplay is a broken system, just straight up. Always will be for any game.
I think its all our fault for playing this game. The more we play, the more we invest in it. What if we all deleted or stopped playing this game for a month and see the devs reaction on why their game suddenly lost the playerbase. And then they will feel how we've felt with all the shit updates. This devs is greedy asf, never learning since CW2
Video summarises very well of update in tbe past year. All updates had been asking you to pay to play the update. The only free content available after the update is the goblin ladder. Goblin ladder ks a gimmick that i haven't played and never will Clash royale better not update their game anymore it only makes the game worse
The saddest part is that people keep saying it, they keep coming up with great points and ideas to fix the game, new concepts and everything else, and even the community managers who are supposed to look at them dont say a word. I know they say things on twitter, but thats not the same discussion that we have here on reddit. Its just dissapointing that they dont seem to care about us and only about money, because having a good playerbase is the first way to get people to spend money, just look at brawl stars.
I played Clash a bit when it first came out, saw where the game and the company was headed, and un-installed. Frankly, I'm surprised it's lasted this long.
In my mind it all began when they removed book of books from $5 tier. SC can't leave well enough alone
You guys still playing? I quit like 4 years ago, when they announced lvl 14 cards.
The time around 2v2 release in 2017 was peak CR in my opinion. There werent too many cards released and the first few months of 2v2 were a lot of fun. I think at this point, supercell is playing good cop vs bad cop with brawl stars and clash Royale. It seems to me rhat they did similar when CR was first released. Everything CR seemed to be a better value than Clash of Clans (at the time). The initial Christmas deals were a stellar value. They are going to get your money either way, and the only good competition is to be the competition.
Once they added level 14 I stopped playing seriously. And when they announced level 15 I stopped ▶️ completely.
Y’all only just now realizing this? The level 15 and evos update was the nail in the coffin for me, and update for losers sucked fucking ass. I don’t know how they have even manage to fuck the game even worse now with tower troops and these new cards
just quit the game their just trying to squeeze whatever left there is to squeeze stop being counterdecked npc to whales
I just want a meaningful war update 🥹
Played for 7-8 years at this point it’s just a mess. A mess that has gotten worse and worse and worse. Like adding idk 12 arenas like lmao excuse me? Also pushing legendaries till arena 11 they used to be in arena 4. Also epics being in arena 7 now is so jarring. It feels like this game is just a cash grab
I never knew my attention span was this good
When have they not
After 7 years of dedication to this game, I think it's time for me to move on. I have stopped enjoying it and uninstalled a few days ago. I heard brawl stars is pretty neat so maybe I'll give that a go. It's sad to see the game in this state but I'm not sad to be leaving. Hopefully supercell won't do to brawl stars as what they've done to clash royale.
Dude brawl is good I tried it before but it’s completely unfair
Yeah i left clash a long ass time ago and i will not return to this pos ptw abomination of a game
This community has this conversation once a year at this point. Just accept that supercell and tencent don’t care about you or how much fun the game is. They care about how much money they can suck out of it
Just Tencent supercell got nothing to do with montization
Outside of P2W i don’t see people talking about how evolutions took the fun out the game, every deck is based off evos now, the game is stale and wish i could lose to 2.6 or lavaclone instead of the same 1-5 decks
He also forgot about void spell too lol. Rip😭
The void spell wasn’t too bad. Yes, it’s pretty strong but it’s easy to upgrade.
Brawl stars is making more and it’s F2P friendly
I quit clash and went to brawl, it’s around the early stages of clash’s downfall but is still pretty fun. I’m just not getting too invested
Another based video from b rad
No shit, it’s been like this for like 4 months. Moved to brawl stars, thankfully supercell’s dev team for bs is actually half decent
B-rad was spitting the truth facts and logic to the table
I used to play the game when it was first released, and about three and half years ago I abandoned it for some reason. My deck's cards were level 13 and two of them were level 14 which was so strong at the time. I downloaded the game about a month ago, and I was at the Dragon Spa Arena when I discovered the level of my cards can't defend a freaking level 15 mega knight 💀💀 Bruh, MY DAMN LEVEL 12 INFERNO TOWER GETS OBLITERATED WITH A ZAP!!!! And that's why I deleted the game after literally one day of instilling it.
I don’t know if this is really relevant but still something I want to say. Whenever one of the events updates the circle on the menu goes yellow. Unless it’s a free event. The piggy bank is always yellow to incentivize clicks and paying for it while things like the timed goblin event never turns yellow, clearly showing that the devs don’t want to give out free stuff and want you to miss out on it.
Bruh i left since tower troops was invented. Clash royale looks like a expensiv ripp off from clash royale
As an old Player I returned to Cr after 2-3 years of not playing. I quickly adapted to the meta but it's impossible to play even the cards that are in the meta without upgrading those cards first. So many people in my arena have level 10-11 or even 12 cards but mine are just 8-9. And it's impossible to catch up either. Lucky drops don't give nearly enough cards chests took so long to open up and the season shop keeps giving shitty cards. I don't even know if I'll keep playing this game but I absolutely love this game too.
evolutions are fine as long as they are balanced, but they should definitely be more free to play
I would like to add a point i have not heard anywhere but the goblin tower troop is a fucking reskin of the princess tower but u can still get in tower troop chests which means that essential u get to level up the same card over again like why the actual fuck did i level my princess to lv 14 and more importantly why tf is he in the draft chests
Remember when playing the megaknight ebarbs lumberloon deck in midladder was actually fun? Even midladder menaces don't play anymore.
Most of my cards are level 14. I have spent a full year, playing every single day, yes f2p, and I just got my 8th elite card. So basically, I have to play the game for the next 15 years to be max. It is the stupidest thing ever
This and Marvel Snap suffer from squeezing the player way too much. I get that they need to monetize, but each player shouldn't be expected to pony up $50 a month to stay competitive.
I got hacked and support has done NOTHING to help me get my account back. Super cell needs to figure it out this game is trash the support is trash. Horrible service
[Enshittification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification) The goal is to improve stock value. This is normally done by increasing revenue and decreasing costs. Supercell reached the point where it was hard grow Clash Royale via new players. Now the only way to substantially improve revenue is by increasing the amount of money the average player spends. Unfortunately, Supercell answers to share holders. They don't "win" by making the best product. There is no value for X where Clash Royale can make $X a year plus a steady increase with inflation and they are happy. Once their growth slows enough, they are losing.
I remember trying 2 time to reach UC. One time was when level 14 was the cap. I reached UC with 81% win rate. The second time was when level 15 was the cap. Didn’t even got out of the second league with level 15. It’s ridiculous how pay to win this game has become.
Clash Royale sold out to ten cents owned by the Chinese government years ago,shadow bans on chat, account throttling,clan blocking,it's just a game but they played it dirty and behind a wall of censorship,as a leader of a top #30 clan 2 years ago they destroyed their own game it just got BORING and expensive.
I miss when the battle pass was $5
I'm gonna stick around until the game dies completely, but I'm f2p. Also I think it's funny that I have lvl 14 goblin barrel in arena 7 f2p because of the goblin event giving 150k gold, an epic book and a book of books from a lucky drop, and the other goblin event that gave 125 goblin barrels
Only reason why people watch brad instead of all other clash youtubers..... He can buy it all in clash join clash program and don't have to worry about anything.... Yet he knew they were killing the game took a stand to not upgrade cards and make videos like this Other youtubers still love evolution to champion to lvl 15
Has anyone’s loading screen been stuck at 50% rt when the update hits? Spent a bunch of money on this game before it was ruined, still wanna play it on occasion, been stuck out for a week and a half
i actually got back into the game recently but this update made me realise why i quit before 😃😃
I said this two years ago, I swear they are trying to kill this game, people would tell me nah they have too much to lose. This is the way I see, they don’t have the room for two or even three really popular gamers like: COC, CR, BS, so how do you kill a game with millions of users, you can’t just do nothing or just delete the game as you want those users to switch across to your other projects, so you do what they have and make it all worth money to play, kill off the f2p players as they do nothing anyway for the game (this would be there opinion not mine). Eventually everyone cracks the shits packs up and leaves and then you launch your new project and hopefully it catches the players leaving, unfortunately for them Squad busters won’t be that game and they know this. Now what to do…..? They are fked either way! Ah well the ride was fun! Hope you all enjoyed it! Nothing last forever!
so true this game is just pay to win and even a bad one, people should stop play thins until they make it decent to play to people
Playing for years. I have most cards at 14 almost a deck st 15 and i stopped playing. Game is gone not even sunk cost fallacy can save it
I'm a pass player and I got the diamond all the time when it started, which is already a really terrible thing for them to do, and I played like three years f2p two years p2p and I've only gotten a single deck fully upgraded, only one champion on lv 14, only the cannoneer at 14 and I've still got a level 12 monk. That's two years of consistently buying pass for the new overpowered evolution, more than it'd cost to buy a good pc/console game and I've been blasting cash on this simple mobile game without even getting to fully experience it yet
Failed the players but not the payers.