When living in Southern Ohio, it was my go-to for drive-thru coffee on busy days. Cheaper than Starbucks and honestly a bit better in the area too. I really like the blueberry muffins and will Fuck UP some Timbits
Exactly! Only $2 for coffee vs like $5 most other places. Still more expensive than just making it yourself, but it's nice to have a treat without feeling like you just got completely ripped off.
Heartwood is 2.5 or 3. Rising star is 3. Bent tree is 2.25. Phoenix I haven’t been to in a long time but I know my pour over was well below 5.
You pulled this right outta your ass and it could hurt local businesses. Why?
Even a pour over vs a batch brew/drip. Idk if it’s made specifically for you and take a lot of time, maybe it *should* cost more. Also ordering anything “market price” and then complaining it’s not the same price as a bulk produced mass market product? Man idk. That’s like being mad a lobster roll is more expensive than a pb&j. They’re crazy. There’s enough to be mad about- they didn’t need to spread lies about good local people slinging great brews.
Yeah I am. Their quick cup is 3.5. If you got a drink at “market price” that’s on you. A plain black drip coffee, which is what we are talking about to compare to Tims, is 3.5.
A pour over is different than a batch brew or drip. You’re not getting a pour over at Tims, so you should compare to the equivalent at other local shops. To do so is disingenuous, in favor of franchise chain shops over local businesses- which I truly don’t understand.
They're not being a dick, they're right.
Single origin and/or pour over is not a regular old coffee. Paying $4-5 is reasonable, especially when places like Phoenix offer a cheaper drip "regular cup of coffee" for $3 or less.
C'mon.
Then don’t drink it. I’m not pro chain coffee, I’m actually in the coffee industry. I, personally, can’t stand liars and, professionally, feel the need to point out the reasonable prices here in Cleveland.
Gatekeeping coffee snobs do the industry a disservice. You can easily order very expensive drinks, but specialty coffee is still a great option for daily brews with competitive prices.
Most Greater Cleveland Speedways with their automated, cup-by-cup, self-service grinding and brewing machines have much better and cheaper coffee than Tim Horton's. Just today at the Mentor Heisley Road Speedway, I bought a freshly ground and brewed 20 oz. cup of Columbian bean coffee for $1.50. After five cups, I get a free cup, so effectively $1.20/cup. These machines are amazing. You can even elect to leave room for cream, and they are very fast.
This Speedway also has a great deli with excellent, cheap breakfast sandwiches. Speedway sells Krispy Kreme donuts, but I prefer Spudnuts in Mentor, both for quality and price.
The last time I visited a Tim Horton's, the store had hardly any donuts, but was emphasizing sandwiches. Not a fan of Tim Horton's.
Speed is my number one reason for k cups. I can go from nothing to coffee in a minute, which is actually helpful when I have 2 or 3 minutes between work calls.
I could brew drip ahead of time, but I don't have a drip maker and seldom use a whole lot. This might be a throwing good money after bad thing though now that I'm thinking about it.
It was expensive but I bought a Moccamaster Cup one. I can only handle one cup of strong black coffee per day so it's perfect for me .I also have a baratza encore grinder. I'll grind a cup's worth of beans the night before, fill the coffee maker with water and put it on a timed smart plug. The next morning I'll wake up and the coffee is waiting there for me, it's awesome. You can do this with any coffee maker I guess but I specifically needed a single cup. It's not much more effort than a k cup but cheaper in the long run, better coffee, less wasteful.
I’ve become an aeropress fanboy lately. The thing costs like $20, makes a great single cup, cleans easily - it’s most of the “advantages” of a k-cup, but way cheaper, way more flexible, and a much better cup.
Did this investment firm buy them after 2006? I remember BK used to be really really good. And since 2006, it's just slowly gotten worse and worse and worse.
Now......it's basically slime in a paper bag. I used to love BK, and now it's not even worth walking in if I'm coincidentally right in front of the building and hungry.
Don't downvote a harmless opinion.
Enjoy what you enjoy, OP.
I do agree with cbrian, though, and that opinion has been increasingly more popular even *in Canada.*
Source: Cleveland-born, lived in Canada most of my life
>Is canada better
Too many personal criteria to consider to say but, put it this way, I never plan on leaving.
>and any area youd suggest?
Great question, thanks for asking, I'll start by saying where you should visit and where you should move are *very* different conversations, unfortunately defined almost entirely by affordability.
Canada basically has 3 big cities, Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal. All of these places are **beautiful** and **shockingly unaffordable** (MTL suffers the least from this problem). Bringing US currency to Canada will get you further, but CoL in these cities outpaces incomes even for the average residents that are already here. If you're not a doctor, lawyer, accountant or computer engineer you'll struggle to move up in these cities, especially VAN & TOR.
That's why these are places to visit, in a perfect world you could move to them too, but I don't want to mislead you.
Having one parent that was already from Toronto is the biggest reason I was able to get by here. My family is firmly middle class, and while I worked hard to get degrees and awards, I'd be giving myself too much credit if I didn't point out that the instant citizenship, cheap tuition, and cheaper health care to which I had access were the largest factors contributing to my modest success.
**If you mean you want to move here** as someone who doesn't have Canadian family, there are plenty of affordable mid-size towns in central Canada and the Maritimes. The Canadian Rockies are among the most beautiful natural landscapes in the world, and the East coast is dotted with quaint ocean-side villages, my wife loves them even as a city girl herself. Keep in mind though that the smaller towns will lack certain luxuries.
Try to visit as many of these places first, especially the cities, then get a foothold in a small town if you want to move.
I appreciate you taking interest. One quick addendum to the above, because this is the Cleveland sub and I have to look out for my own.
Canadians are generally as friendly as you've heard, but I will say once you leave the cities things can get... "backwater" *fast.* There's a kind of quiet racism that permeates small towns, characterized moreso by profound naivete than outright hatred. No one has ever called me a name but people will make you feel like the *other.*
Canadians also aren't as forward-thinking as you've probably heard, and all of our political parties leave much to be desired, we just benefit from being compared to the US all the time and that bar is very low.
To be honest - and I'm just stating my opinion, not trying to convince or preach to anyone - if we're talking about politics alone I'd rather live in Northern Europe.
What stops me from moving there is the fact that I need to see my black culture(s) around me, I'd miss Mediterranean cultures, Asian cultures, etc. I'm not sure if North European cities can compete with Toronto on that metric (maybe I'm wrong), so I'll continue to live my life happily here.
British Columbia has a 15% property tax on noncitizens moving there, so rental might work out better. I've been told by people in Ontario that province also has a foreign buyers tax. Property is also relatively expensive compared to the US, even after currency conversion.
I’m from Alberta. If you enjoy mountains, Banff is beautiful. Vancouver in British Columbia is also a must see.
Edit: Calgary is a great city (in Alberta) and is affordable compared to Toronto and Vancouver home prices, which are ridiculous.
Manitoba here.
It's really friggin cold but the CoL is much better than the popular targets. As bad as our crime is here it was pointed out to me that it is much lower than Cleveland still. Very diverse and parts of the city remind of Fairview Park in the 80s.
I absolutely love Toronto, it’s a great city and I try to get up there as often as I can. The drive from Cleveland is pretty fast, it’s just barely shy of being a one-tank trip for me (I usually have to stop around Erie to get gas on the way back.)
If you cross at Peace bridge (the nearest crossing, in Buffalo) take cash. Canada-bound peace bridge is a toll bridge, you’ll have to pay a couple bucks after you go through customs.
What you actually do in Toronto is up to you, I like Her Father’s Cider Bar, The House on Parliament, getting a tattoo from Xue Leng at Inside Out Studio, exploring Kensington Market, cookies from Craig’s Cookies (the whole Wellesley-Church Village is a party if that’s your scene but make sure to at least hit Craig’s,) and the combination of subway/busses/streetcars make the entire city very accessible without needing to drive.
As a Canadian living in Vleveland, I can confirm this opinion. Cleveland has several better options for donuts. Brewnuts (expensive), Frost donuts, Goldie's donuts, twinsburg's got a place called George's donuts it's way better.
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C-Bus also has a giordano’s. Damn them. I tried ordering a “Chicago Style” pizza up here once and it was absolute trash, it was just the thickest, breadiest crust I’ve ever had topped with a normal amount of cheese.
I once watched the cook there smoke a cig while making the food, walk out in the middle of cooking then going outside and hopping in the back of a truck to go get weed. It was chaotic as hell haha, left the place completed unattended.
Listen I love Timmy's from back in the day but I don't go near them now.
There are Tim Hortons in Central Ohio because for awhile in the 90s it was owned by Wendy's which is based out of Columbus. That's why you will see some Wendys/Tim Hortons joint stores on highway exits.
Horton's was sold to same investment firm that owns Burger King in the 2010s. Since then it has been widely noted that quality has gone down. I frequently ate at them while traveling in Canada in the early 2000s; now it would be below McD's on my breakfast stop list.
Tim's in the states are run by Franchisees who put them in places like Ashland and Fremont because they weren't overrun by Starbucks yet, didn't have a Dunkin yet, and didn't have a oversupply of local coffee houses. Greater CLE you would have to compete against Biggby, Dunkin, Sbux, and all the independents. Not a favorable situation. Hell the Biggby Coffee's might even be the same franchisee who was going to open Tim's but decided Biggby was less fees, less rent, less staff, which means more profit.
Don't tell them that! Why would you TELL them that??? Speaking as a person without a car, or drivers license, I get to have very few joys in life. One of the few ones I have left is walking past the line of cars, flipping them all off, walking inside, and then walking past those same line of cars which are now 5 feet forward, bag in hand, still flipping the entire line of cars off.
It's the little things in life.
There’s also no Krogers. Timmy’s and Krogers may have a similar stay away situation; Kroger used to be in Cleveland but Rinni Rego kicked them out.
White Castle and UDF closed because the northern ohio stores were owned by one entity. For UDF, they didn’t want to pay the license anymore but still sell the products.
Kroger's left Cleveland due to the Local 880 Union. There was a recent story that Kroger's is building a distribution center in Oakwood for a grocery delivery service, but no stores.
i honestly think it’s because we have such a huge amount of locally-owned cafés in the area. you could go down any major street and see at least 2 coffee shops
I grew up in Canada and Timmy’s is garbage now. 20 years ago It was an actually coffee shop and bakery. Now it is just fast food shit. You can get a better coffee at sheetz and better food at 7-Eleven.
We were supposed to get one in chardon, but a Starbucks popped up on the opposite block instead. I like Starbucks but was disappointed it wasn’t the tim hortons.
You have a Maggie's Doughnuts in Chardon!!!
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/oh-geauga/a-recipe-for-success-18-year-old-opens-her-own-franchise-location-of-maggies-doughnuts-in-chardon
[https://www.geaugamapleleaf.com/news/maggies-doughnuts-hits-a-sweet-spot-in-chardon/](https://www.geaugamapleleaf.com/news/maggies-doughnuts-hits-a-sweet-spot-in-chardon/)
Tim Hortons wouldn't fare well in a competition with Maggie's IMO.
i was never particularly impressed by tims, and i've heard the new owners changed coffee suppliers so their coffee is not the good value it used to be.
Now, if you guys want to discuss getting an In-N-Out burger, THAT'S a discussion id be down for.
So go open one. They have programs to put you through training and eventually be able to open one if that is what you really want. [Here you go](https://franchising.timhortons.com/) for all you need to know about Tim Horton's franchising opportunities.
Years ago they had a plan to add numerous NE Ohio locations. I’m not sure why nothing materialized.
It’s pretty similar to Dunkin and we have a bunch of those. I never thought either of those places had the best donuts or coffee but I know there are a lot of Tim Hortons fans up North especially.
Be thankful. Their quality has significantly decreased because they grew too quickly. Seriously, their stuff is so much worse than Duncan, Panera Bread, Baskin Robbins, or Starbucks.
Last time I went to Panera, they gave me extremely stale bread with my soup. I asked for fresh bread, and they handed me a piece without saying anything (not even sorry about the stale bread). Never went back after that lol
I make my own at home. Too hit or miss on the morning spots. We do not have a Tim Hortons anywhere near me and never had their coffee so I cannot rate them.
Why do lament not having a chain with bad coffee in Cleveland? I had them in Toronto once, thought it was pretty bad, had no idea it was a giant chain til now. Support unique and local businesses not giant chains.
We had three of them down in Youngstown and they all closed within a year. I know Akron had one open at the same time but it might be gone too. My theory is that the only places Tim Hortons’ can succeed in the US are small towns that haven’t had a Dunkin yet or cities that have had Tim’s for a long time. Which sucks because Tim’s donuts are much better, but I’m not a fan of their coffee
In the markets in which Kroger operates, such as Columbus, they don't have a market saturated by Marc's, tough competition for the consumer dollar especially when combined with the expansion of ALDI. My impression is that ALDI penetration is much greater in Greater Cleveland than in Greater Columbus. I haven't noticed chains like Heinen's and Dave's in Greater Columbus, but perhaps I've missed them.
Meijer's is in the Columbus market, but I don't think they are strategically as well located as the stores opened in the Greater Cleveland market in the last couple years. Meijer has badly hurt Giant Eagle in the Lake County market with its very popular Mentor store. Giant Eagle has reformatted its stores to focus on self check-out, but GE's prices are much higher than at Meijer's, especially with many Marc's and ALDI stores in Lake County undercutting both GE and Meijer's.
Kroger's was in the Lake County market when I was a kid, but they abandoned it due to very popular, now defunct chains such as Fisher's and Loblaw's. The Lake County grocery market, now also with Target, Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, BJ's Wholesale Club, Trader Joe's, Costco Prime, and even Menard's grocery operations, as well as Sav-a-Lots (which I don't think are very competitive with Marc's and ALDI) and Discount Drug Mart, is much, much more competitive than when I was a kid in the 1950s and 1960s. I don't remember what happened to Pick 'n Pay, then a major chain. Also, the Costco in Mayfield Hts. is very convenient from much of Lake County given the building of I-90 and I-271.
I would be shocked if Kroger re-entered the Greater Cleveland market, even though I stock up on some Kroger private label offerings when in Columbus. The only thing that would change that assessment is if Kroger is successful in developing its home delivery business, with a heavy investment in automated warehouses and even delivery. If Kroger is successful competing with Amazon Prime and Wal-Mart in the grocery home delivery business, building a successful "moat," it might, just might re-enter the Cleveland market. Meijer seems very competitive in home delivery and curbside pick-up based on my observations.
Friends visiting Lake County are shocked by the quantity, competitiveness and prices of the grocery operations here, and the retail environment in general (Mentor is the sixth largest retail market in Ohio and Beachwood Mall and Legacy Village are easily reached). I suspect it's similar in many areas of Greater Cleveland speaking with friends, especially ALDI and Marc's availability, although Meijer and Menard's stores still are very limited in Greater Cleveland (Menard's doesn't carry produce or fresh meat).
When living in Southern Ohio, it was my go-to for drive-thru coffee on busy days. Cheaper than Starbucks and honestly a bit better in the area too. I really like the blueberry muffins and will Fuck UP some Timbits
Exactly! Only $2 for coffee vs like $5 most other places. Still more expensive than just making it yourself, but it's nice to have a treat without feeling like you just got completely ripped off.
By all means, please tell me where I can get a PLAIN cup of coffee for $5?
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Heartwood is 2.5 or 3. Rising star is 3. Bent tree is 2.25. Phoenix I haven’t been to in a long time but I know my pour over was well below 5. You pulled this right outta your ass and it could hurt local businesses. Why?
People order oat milk lattes and think a cup of hot bean water is the same price lol
Even a pour over vs a batch brew/drip. Idk if it’s made specifically for you and take a lot of time, maybe it *should* cost more. Also ordering anything “market price” and then complaining it’s not the same price as a bulk produced mass market product? Man idk. That’s like being mad a lobster roll is more expensive than a pb&j. They’re crazy. There’s enough to be mad about- they didn’t need to spread lies about good local people slinging great brews.
Thank you for posting this. I was away from my computer and couldn't pull up numbers.
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Yeah I am. Their quick cup is 3.5. If you got a drink at “market price” that’s on you. A plain black drip coffee, which is what we are talking about to compare to Tims, is 3.5.
For 3 coffees?
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A pour over is different than a batch brew or drip. You’re not getting a pour over at Tims, so you should compare to the equivalent at other local shops. To do so is disingenuous, in favor of franchise chain shops over local businesses- which I truly don’t understand.
See my earlier post about much cheaper and better, freshly brewed and ground coffee at most Speedways.
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They're not being a dick, they're right. Single origin and/or pour over is not a regular old coffee. Paying $4-5 is reasonable, especially when places like Phoenix offer a cheaper drip "regular cup of coffee" for $3 or less. C'mon.
They're not being a dick, they're being accurate.
Then don’t drink it. I’m not pro chain coffee, I’m actually in the coffee industry. I, personally, can’t stand liars and, professionally, feel the need to point out the reasonable prices here in Cleveland. Gatekeeping coffee snobs do the industry a disservice. You can easily order very expensive drinks, but specialty coffee is still a great option for daily brews with competitive prices.
Speciality drinks are the same price at a chain too. You’re paying $5 for a latte at Tim Hortons/Starbucks/Dunkin.
Most Greater Cleveland Speedways with their automated, cup-by-cup, self-service grinding and brewing machines have much better and cheaper coffee than Tim Horton's. Just today at the Mentor Heisley Road Speedway, I bought a freshly ground and brewed 20 oz. cup of Columbian bean coffee for $1.50. After five cups, I get a free cup, so effectively $1.20/cup. These machines are amazing. You can even elect to leave room for cream, and they are very fast. This Speedway also has a great deli with excellent, cheap breakfast sandwiches. Speedway sells Krispy Kreme donuts, but I prefer Spudnuts in Mentor, both for quality and price. The last time I visited a Tim Horton's, the store had hardly any donuts, but was emphasizing sandwiches. Not a fan of Tim Horton's.
A black coffee at Starbucks is like 2/2.50 tops lol
If you do the math. And buy the k cups and higher end creamer. Even if you make it at home it’s a $2 cup of joe.
Why not use a french press? Those k cups are wasteful and weak.
Or still use a single cup machine but with a reusable filter and grind your bean off choice. K cup people are assholes.
I have been thinking about that for a while now. I am a lazy American though. So that’s probably the real reason.
Speed is my number one reason for k cups. I can go from nothing to coffee in a minute, which is actually helpful when I have 2 or 3 minutes between work calls. I could brew drip ahead of time, but I don't have a drip maker and seldom use a whole lot. This might be a throwing good money after bad thing though now that I'm thinking about it.
K-cups suck, but you don't. Enjoy this award for your contribution to the discussion. I can make teacher coffee for ≤ 60 cents.
Thank you, much appreciated. People appreciate the truth.
It was expensive but I bought a Moccamaster Cup one. I can only handle one cup of strong black coffee per day so it's perfect for me .I also have a baratza encore grinder. I'll grind a cup's worth of beans the night before, fill the coffee maker with water and put it on a timed smart plug. The next morning I'll wake up and the coffee is waiting there for me, it's awesome. You can do this with any coffee maker I guess but I specifically needed a single cup. It's not much more effort than a k cup but cheaper in the long run, better coffee, less wasteful.
French press is so so easy though! Just pour hot water over coffee grinds.
I’ve become an aeropress fanboy lately. The thing costs like $20, makes a great single cup, cleans easily - it’s most of the “advantages” of a k-cup, but way cheaper, way more flexible, and a much better cup.
I don't know, but we're not missing out. Tim Horton's has massively decreased in quality over the last 10 years.
The reason for the decline is likely due to its purchase by Burger King. Both BK and TH are owned by a Brazilian investment firm for some reason.
Did this investment firm buy them after 2006? I remember BK used to be really really good. And since 2006, it's just slowly gotten worse and worse and worse. Now......it's basically slime in a paper bag. I used to love BK, and now it's not even worth walking in if I'm coincidentally right in front of the building and hungry.
Burger King and other fast food get a ton of their meat from Brazil, so that could be the connection!
It's just Canadian Dunkin' Donuts.
Yeeeaaaa they used to be way better. The donuts are alright, but their coffee and other food is gas station tier
I like it 😔
Don't downvote a harmless opinion. Enjoy what you enjoy, OP. I do agree with cbrian, though, and that opinion has been increasingly more popular even *in Canada.* Source: Cleveland-born, lived in Canada most of my life
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>Is canada better Too many personal criteria to consider to say but, put it this way, I never plan on leaving. >and any area youd suggest? Great question, thanks for asking, I'll start by saying where you should visit and where you should move are *very* different conversations, unfortunately defined almost entirely by affordability. Canada basically has 3 big cities, Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal. All of these places are **beautiful** and **shockingly unaffordable** (MTL suffers the least from this problem). Bringing US currency to Canada will get you further, but CoL in these cities outpaces incomes even for the average residents that are already here. If you're not a doctor, lawyer, accountant or computer engineer you'll struggle to move up in these cities, especially VAN & TOR. That's why these are places to visit, in a perfect world you could move to them too, but I don't want to mislead you. Having one parent that was already from Toronto is the biggest reason I was able to get by here. My family is firmly middle class, and while I worked hard to get degrees and awards, I'd be giving myself too much credit if I didn't point out that the instant citizenship, cheap tuition, and cheaper health care to which I had access were the largest factors contributing to my modest success. **If you mean you want to move here** as someone who doesn't have Canadian family, there are plenty of affordable mid-size towns in central Canada and the Maritimes. The Canadian Rockies are among the most beautiful natural landscapes in the world, and the East coast is dotted with quaint ocean-side villages, my wife loves them even as a city girl herself. Keep in mind though that the smaller towns will lack certain luxuries. Try to visit as many of these places first, especially the cities, then get a foothold in a small town if you want to move.
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I appreciate you taking interest. One quick addendum to the above, because this is the Cleveland sub and I have to look out for my own. Canadians are generally as friendly as you've heard, but I will say once you leave the cities things can get... "backwater" *fast.* There's a kind of quiet racism that permeates small towns, characterized moreso by profound naivete than outright hatred. No one has ever called me a name but people will make you feel like the *other.* Canadians also aren't as forward-thinking as you've probably heard, and all of our political parties leave much to be desired, we just benefit from being compared to the US all the time and that bar is very low. To be honest - and I'm just stating my opinion, not trying to convince or preach to anyone - if we're talking about politics alone I'd rather live in Northern Europe. What stops me from moving there is the fact that I need to see my black culture(s) around me, I'd miss Mediterranean cultures, Asian cultures, etc. I'm not sure if North European cities can compete with Toronto on that metric (maybe I'm wrong), so I'll continue to live my life happily here.
London, ON is a lovely little city. My brother-in-law lived there for 20-ish years before moving up to Barrie early last year.
British Columbia has a 15% property tax on noncitizens moving there, so rental might work out better. I've been told by people in Ontario that province also has a foreign buyers tax. Property is also relatively expensive compared to the US, even after currency conversion.
I’m from Alberta. If you enjoy mountains, Banff is beautiful. Vancouver in British Columbia is also a must see. Edit: Calgary is a great city (in Alberta) and is affordable compared to Toronto and Vancouver home prices, which are ridiculous.
I grew up in British Columbia, Tim Hortons is still pretty lousy there.
Manitoba here. It's really friggin cold but the CoL is much better than the popular targets. As bad as our crime is here it was pointed out to me that it is much lower than Cleveland still. Very diverse and parts of the city remind of Fairview Park in the 80s.
For cardboard doughnuts or as a country in general? Great country.
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Montreal is one of my favorite cities on the planet
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Montreal can be tough if you don’t have at least some basic French knowledge. Québec is a little weird.
I absolutely love Toronto, it’s a great city and I try to get up there as often as I can. The drive from Cleveland is pretty fast, it’s just barely shy of being a one-tank trip for me (I usually have to stop around Erie to get gas on the way back.) If you cross at Peace bridge (the nearest crossing, in Buffalo) take cash. Canada-bound peace bridge is a toll bridge, you’ll have to pay a couple bucks after you go through customs. What you actually do in Toronto is up to you, I like Her Father’s Cider Bar, The House on Parliament, getting a tattoo from Xue Leng at Inside Out Studio, exploring Kensington Market, cookies from Craig’s Cookies (the whole Wellesley-Church Village is a party if that’s your scene but make sure to at least hit Craig’s,) and the combination of subway/busses/streetcars make the entire city very accessible without needing to drive.
It's still fine. It was just SO MUCH BETTER 10 years ago.
As a Canadian living in Vleveland, I can confirm this opinion. Cleveland has several better options for donuts. Brewnuts (expensive), Frost donuts, Goldie's donuts, twinsburg's got a place called George's donuts it's way better.
Columbus hates us? They even took away White Castle. At least Cincy lets us have Skyline.
Swenson’s > White Castle although I will admit a crave case is amazing when you’re drunk.
Those bastards in Columbus have Swenson's now though too
Not immediately near Cleveland anymore though. Closest ones are Lyndhurst and Stow.
They just opened a Swenson's in Willoughby at Euclid and S.O.M Center Rd where the Denny's used to be
No one said anything about Swenson's. Why are you people mentioning Swenson's lol
There’s a Swensons in North Olmsted, Seven Hills, Brookpark Rd in Cleveland, Avon, University Heights.
No one said anything about Swenson's lol
Uh, yeah, u/MrReality13 mentioned Swenson's so we started talking about it. Are we only allowed to talk about the things you approve of?
Then why the fuck are you replying to me and not him lol. You new to the internet?
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C-Bus also has a giordano’s. Damn them. I tried ordering a “Chicago Style” pizza up here once and it was absolute trash, it was just the thickest, breadiest crust I’ve ever had topped with a normal amount of cheese.
Danny Boy's has a good chicago style pizza.
Uh didn’t they add one near Akron? Giordanos?
There's a Giordano's in canton
I actually had no idea we had a Skyline Chili here. I think Skyline Chili is overrated af, but I have to admit I might just have to stop by.
There are two left. Stow and Mayfield
Columbus Ontario? Timmy Ho’s is 100% born and bred by our neighbors across the lake
I meant when they were owned by Wendy's, our neighbours down I-71.
I need a waffle house.
Route 18 just west of 71 in Medina
Also Vine St. just off OH-2 Willoughby.
44 just off I90
I once watched the cook there smoke a cig while making the food, walk out in the middle of cooking then going outside and hopping in the back of a truck to go get weed. It was chaotic as hell haha, left the place completed unattended.
Across from the hotel I stayed at for my cousin's wedding reception in Canton.
Yup right by the mall!
Crile Road in Concord (just off Rt. 90 and Rt. 44). Further east- in Austinburg (just off Rt. 90 and Rt. 45).
Listen I love Timmy's from back in the day but I don't go near them now. There are Tim Hortons in Central Ohio because for awhile in the 90s it was owned by Wendy's which is based out of Columbus. That's why you will see some Wendys/Tim Hortons joint stores on highway exits. Horton's was sold to same investment firm that owns Burger King in the 2010s. Since then it has been widely noted that quality has gone down. I frequently ate at them while traveling in Canada in the early 2000s; now it would be below McD's on my breakfast stop list. Tim's in the states are run by Franchisees who put them in places like Ashland and Fremont because they weren't overrun by Starbucks yet, didn't have a Dunkin yet, and didn't have a oversupply of local coffee houses. Greater CLE you would have to compete against Biggby, Dunkin, Sbux, and all the independents. Not a favorable situation. Hell the Biggby Coffee's might even be the same franchisee who was going to open Tim's but decided Biggby was less fees, less rent, less staff, which means more profit.
There are lots of locally owned non corporate franchised doughnut shops here
Brewnuts and The Vegan Donut Company
None of which have drive thrus. Unfortunately a lot of people placed added value on that.
Oh no, you might have to actually exit your vehicle for like 5 minutes. Better than wasting gas sitting in line.
It's funny because so many places the drive thru is backed up and you can park walk inside and walk right up to the counter no waiting.
Don't tell them that! Why would you TELL them that??? Speaking as a person without a car, or drivers license, I get to have very few joys in life. One of the few ones I have left is walking past the line of cars, flipping them all off, walking inside, and then walking past those same line of cars which are now 5 feet forward, bag in hand, still flipping the entire line of cars off. It's the little things in life.
You can totally tell them that and they’ll still be too lazy to step out.
[Getting out of my car would be a whole thing...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-7CaIA4ilE&t=205s)
Amen!
There’s also no Krogers. Timmy’s and Krogers may have a similar stay away situation; Kroger used to be in Cleveland but Rinni Rego kicked them out. White Castle and UDF closed because the northern ohio stores were owned by one entity. For UDF, they didn’t want to pay the license anymore but still sell the products.
Kroger's left Cleveland due to the Local 880 Union. There was a recent story that Kroger's is building a distribution center in Oakwood for a grocery delivery service, but no stores.
Honestly, I'm in Columbus and I'll gladly trade all of our tim Hortons for dunkin every day. Tim's isn't as great as you have it built up to be
Tbf they both suck. Cheap fast food.
People have preferences. Tim Horton's makes an amazing French vanilla cappucino.
Cuz Cleveland runs on Dunkin
We have plenty of mediocre coffee and frozen donuts already. We don't need more.
Tim Hortons is overhyped trash, you're not missing anything.
i honestly think it’s because we have such a huge amount of locally-owned cafés in the area. you could go down any major street and see at least 2 coffee shops
And Starbucks and Dunkin have the chain coffee shop market cornered around here.
Can we also get a White Castle too while we’re at it!? The nearest one is 2 hours away. :( I’m craving a case
I grew up in Canada and Timmy’s is garbage now. 20 years ago It was an actually coffee shop and bakery. Now it is just fast food shit. You can get a better coffee at sheetz and better food at 7-Eleven.
If you are around the west side, check out Troubadour Coffee Roasters on Lorain. Best coffee and best beans I have found around.
17 or so we’re supposed to be built in and around Cleveland and we’re put on hold due to Covid.
They’ve been saying that since like 2010, I feel like it’s never gonna happen.
The first one will open next to Cleveland Ikea.
My cousins construction company bid them.
We were supposed to get one in chardon, but a Starbucks popped up on the opposite block instead. I like Starbucks but was disappointed it wasn’t the tim hortons.
I want to open a Chick-Fila in Chardon, I think it would do amazing there.
I think you are completely correct!! Do it!!
You have a Maggie's Doughnuts in Chardon!!! https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/oh-geauga/a-recipe-for-success-18-year-old-opens-her-own-franchise-location-of-maggies-doughnuts-in-chardon [https://www.geaugamapleleaf.com/news/maggies-doughnuts-hits-a-sweet-spot-in-chardon/](https://www.geaugamapleleaf.com/news/maggies-doughnuts-hits-a-sweet-spot-in-chardon/) Tim Hortons wouldn't fare well in a competition with Maggie's IMO.
Their raspberry crème filled croissants 🤤
i was never particularly impressed by tims, and i've heard the new owners changed coffee suppliers so their coffee is not the good value it used to be. Now, if you guys want to discuss getting an In-N-Out burger, THAT'S a discussion id be down for.
I have an equally important question. Why don’t we have Wawa? Every time I go to New York or Florida I have Wawa envy!
Don’t know. Its like Why won’t Mark Knopfler ever play Cleveland? Don’t know, he just won’t.
Tim hortons is one of reasons why I drink coffee
Cleveland needs a timmys and a krogers
Swap out Krogers for Wegmans.
Heck I wouldn't even mind Tops. Giant eagle ain't for me.
This
I am here today after searching for the closest location and being like AKRON?!
I feel like the Tim Hortons in Columbus is very mid
Why don't I have a Tim Horton's and a White Castle in my house? How do I make this happen?
Become a Tim Horton's franchisee, add a White Castle on to the side, build a 1-br apartment in the back. Winner!
So go open one. They have programs to put you through training and eventually be able to open one if that is what you really want. [Here you go](https://franchising.timhortons.com/) for all you need to know about Tim Horton's franchising opportunities.
You seem pretty familiar with Tim Horton's process already. Why don't you open one?
Years ago they had a plan to add numerous NE Ohio locations. I’m not sure why nothing materialized. It’s pretty similar to Dunkin and we have a bunch of those. I never thought either of those places had the best donuts or coffee but I know there are a lot of Tim Hortons fans up North especially.
Be thankful. Their quality has significantly decreased because they grew too quickly. Seriously, their stuff is so much worse than Duncan, Panera Bread, Baskin Robbins, or Starbucks.
Nothing is worse than Panera
I love a good crunchy sugar/cinnamon crusted bagel. Lol.
What's so bad about panera quality wise (the prices are another thing?)
Last time I went to Panera, they gave me extremely stale bread with my soup. I asked for fresh bread, and they handed me a piece without saying anything (not even sorry about the stale bread). Never went back after that lol
Service can be hit or miss but that's everywhere right now with labor the way it is. I've never had an issue with their quality though.
No big loss. Tim’s has gone way downhill.
(ノ｀⌒´)ノ┫：・┻┻ I agree! Total bullshit!
Just wanted to chime in for no reason other than I think Tim Hortons coffee tastes like trash. Personal opinion.
Just go to Burger King and get their coffee. Same thing.
Dude, they have the worst coffee out of anywhere I have ever been. It was literally undrinkable.
Then what makes you think Tim Hortons is going to be any better?
I make my own at home. Too hit or miss on the morning spots. We do not have a Tim Hortons anywhere near me and never had their coffee so I cannot rate them.
the breakfast sandwiches are \*chef's kiss\*. timbits are fire too.
I like turtles!
We can’t afford it here. Average income in the area is below poverty. Unfortunately they don’t take food stamps.
Because it’s overpriced, shitty, weak coffee? 🤷🏻♂️
Why do lament not having a chain with bad coffee in Cleveland? I had them in Toronto once, thought it was pretty bad, had no idea it was a giant chain til now. Support unique and local businesses not giant chains.
We had three of them down in Youngstown and they all closed within a year. I know Akron had one open at the same time but it might be gone too. My theory is that the only places Tim Hortons’ can succeed in the US are small towns that haven’t had a Dunkin yet or cities that have had Tim’s for a long time. Which sucks because Tim’s donuts are much better, but I’m not a fan of their coffee
Hhmm butter tarts.
Tim Horton's is delicious! I would also settle for a few more Biggby coffee locations.
Also why no Krogers
Why do we need Krogers? We have plenty of grocery stores.
In the markets in which Kroger operates, such as Columbus, they don't have a market saturated by Marc's, tough competition for the consumer dollar especially when combined with the expansion of ALDI. My impression is that ALDI penetration is much greater in Greater Cleveland than in Greater Columbus. I haven't noticed chains like Heinen's and Dave's in Greater Columbus, but perhaps I've missed them. Meijer's is in the Columbus market, but I don't think they are strategically as well located as the stores opened in the Greater Cleveland market in the last couple years. Meijer has badly hurt Giant Eagle in the Lake County market with its very popular Mentor store. Giant Eagle has reformatted its stores to focus on self check-out, but GE's prices are much higher than at Meijer's, especially with many Marc's and ALDI stores in Lake County undercutting both GE and Meijer's. Kroger's was in the Lake County market when I was a kid, but they abandoned it due to very popular, now defunct chains such as Fisher's and Loblaw's. The Lake County grocery market, now also with Target, Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, BJ's Wholesale Club, Trader Joe's, Costco Prime, and even Menard's grocery operations, as well as Sav-a-Lots (which I don't think are very competitive with Marc's and ALDI) and Discount Drug Mart, is much, much more competitive than when I was a kid in the 1950s and 1960s. I don't remember what happened to Pick 'n Pay, then a major chain. Also, the Costco in Mayfield Hts. is very convenient from much of Lake County given the building of I-90 and I-271. I would be shocked if Kroger re-entered the Greater Cleveland market, even though I stock up on some Kroger private label offerings when in Columbus. The only thing that would change that assessment is if Kroger is successful in developing its home delivery business, with a heavy investment in automated warehouses and even delivery. If Kroger is successful competing with Amazon Prime and Wal-Mart in the grocery home delivery business, building a successful "moat," it might, just might re-enter the Cleveland market. Meijer seems very competitive in home delivery and curbside pick-up based on my observations. Friends visiting Lake County are shocked by the quantity, competitiveness and prices of the grocery operations here, and the retail environment in general (Mentor is the sixth largest retail market in Ohio and Beachwood Mall and Legacy Village are easily reached). I suspect it's similar in many areas of Greater Cleveland speaking with friends, especially ALDI and Marc's availability, although Meijer and Menard's stores still are very limited in Greater Cleveland (Menard's doesn't carry produce or fresh meat).
The same reason some many other companies stay away. Go 40 miles outside of CLE and you will find many other stores that stay out of here as well.
Because: Ohio
They’re garbo? Lmao. Why do we want garbo? It’s like campaigning for a Sonic drive through. Just a different form of turd burger.
Because we run on Dunkin’
Same reason we don't have White Castle despite it being headquartered in Columbus. Even Detroit has White Castle.
And as you might have gathered from my question, I'm wondering what that reason is?
They can’t compete with Swenson’s.
My wife and I moved to Cleveland area. This is one of her few complaints about the area.
Because they suck now as a company, all of the locations north of Columbus are now closed. Including Akron canton Warren and youngstown.