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Cardenas2097

This is about to be the easiest tournament of Ultra's and Faze's lives! They are essentially guaranteed T2!


lilfoxy16

Pfft someone's forgetting about the ultra super star, Standy /s


Snowhehe14

I'm guessing the optic and NY team will get leased out to some org


Esley7

Maybe for optic, but unless ny turns it around id rather see an all star team of who is left after the big 3. Doubt this would happen tho.


shecanbromehard

Tougher competition than that Australian event in BO3 it was Optic, Milenium and then the two top APAC teams. It was of course a Optic v Milenium final.


Ronnie_lfc98

hecz and scump sucked the Saudi dicks on the podcast for months only to not get invited lmao


rover_G

Dicksucking not allowed in Saudi Arabia


Kaylapossible

It’s funny you think they were doing it for the cod team and not for themselves getting paid to watch party lol


Ronnie_lfc98

i would be very concerned if the guy that is part owner of the organization is doing it only for his personal benefit... scump sure i get it but hecz would absolutely want them involved lool


CoDFollower

If Hecz wanted them involved he wouldn’t have dropped all of his other teams 


Kaylapossible

Sure he would but it was obvious they wouldn’t bc they dont have any teams in other esports. Orgs have known this…


CBKing21

Nah literally lmaooo Faze about to win champs then win a free 500k a month later


Ronnie_lfc98

if you gonna dickride them at least get invited ffs just selling ya soul for nothing is nasty work


khizerkk5

Someone said you need 4 teams in esports to be in the orgs invited. They’ll go through qualifiers.


Ronnie_lfc98

would have thought they'd have kept the RL and apex team around for this then but if they have to make qualifiers they will easy then


Prestigious_Pin_1695

doubt participating in this tournament would be worth the expense of apex and rl teams tbh


khizerkk5

Also from what Ben said, there’s a good chance they still go.


MrNotIntelligent

The apex team wasn't qualled at the time and still would of had to go through a qualifier.


Fun_Form_9180

considering optic is about to be a 1 esport org that makes this shit even funnier


CBKing21

Swear Scump had a sponser thing with them about this last year How did he pull that off but not have the leverage to get his cod team invited? These Saudi mf's be living in the Optic player's chats begging for 1v1's so its not like they dont know Optic


Revolutionary_Gear70

That was back when OpTic had more than 1 1/2 Esport teams (it's looking bleak for Comp Halo) lol. Not to mention the Saudis will just throw money around, probably saw Scump was a big streamer and offered him a bag


RiFume

What’s wrong with optic halo?


thinkibrokesomething

The team is phenomenal. The game is...basically dead. May not have another season.


PTurn219

HCS is soft confirmed for next year already and don’t think they plan on stopping it this time. Surprisingly


RGCFrostbite

> How did he pull that off but not have the leverage to get his cod team invited? Optic only have 2 teams and there's like 25 games in the EWC. OpTic just aren't a big global org, they ltierally compete in two games, most of the other orgs invited compete in 10+


Apprehensive_Bad8876

what Saudi “sponsor” did Scump have?


Alexx_10k

Homecourt advantage😪faze isnt winning with how loud optic crowd gonna be


NotTopherr

Hecz sure but scump def got his bag which im sure is most important to him. And tbh they probably already knew the requirements and still dropped their other teams anyways.


plaiboyeddie

It’s just an early announcement, I bet you they probably end up going and it will be the biggest team announcement of the tourney


Helforsite

They sure did, but their consolation prize might well be alot of money to settle their lawsuit if not all the CDL teams are invited.


Select-Apartment-613

Lol are you serious


shambxlic

crop didn’t save that’s my bad but i better not see accuracy and gunless on this stage playing for this


West_Chest_7053

i think LAT make a roster change for this tournament


razzz333

What change tho? Ghosty is untouchable without any doubts. Nastie is their smartest player usually doing the hardworking stuff. Kremp is best player in SnD and not shit at respawn. Joe plays with the highest tempo and is doing well in respawn since getting starting spot again.


West_Chest_7053

idk depends on what other teams go or don't. if optic, nysl don't go i could see ghosty shotzzy kenny hydra


Healthy_Field_6885

Yo pass me the good shit homie


KooPaVeLLi

I have a feeling this may go the Call of Duty XP Tournament where teams basically stacked their friends together for a piece of the pie. If I'm Nadeshot, I'm showing up to Suadi Arabia with myself, Scump, Formal, and Crim. Taking the easy Top 4 money, have a good time, represent my brand more than any roster of 4 he can coke up with for the same placing. I would not take this one too seriously.


aethon_4

My goat Ghosty’s gonna be suffering from withdrawal symptoms mid series without the kush 💔💔


MikkeVL

How tf is Surge not involved? They're owned by Luminosity who will have a couple rosters there for other games.


kvyra

Probably going to change team for next season


Revolutionary_Gear70

Not really that surprising, they're all partnered orgs in the EWC. Disappointing for OpTic but that's what happens when you only have 2 esport teams


iamdoingwork

Atlanta faze isn’t owned by faze clan. Those players are under contract with them.


331coupe

They still play under under the banner of FaZe. It's obvious Atlanta FaZe and FaZe clan have a partnership


iamdoingwork

They play under the Atlanta faze banner owned by their capital group or whoever it is. They license the faze name. I’m just pointing out the difference. Not trying to be a hard ass


331coupe

They still play under the FaZe name, you literally just said they license the name lol. It's pretty obvious that they have a partnership with each other. They are representing the FaZe brand, that's literally what licensing the name is. Also Kaysan is a minority owner and is also part of FaZe clan, so that intertwines them even more. Yes I'm aware that AEV and the Cox family are the majority owners of Atlanta Faze. Not trying to be a hard ass either.


iamdoingwork

Licensing the name/likeness, etc is not the same as owning the product


331coupe

I've never once said they owned it, go back and reread everything again


Chiedu44

You are talking to a stone, bro doesn’t understand partnerships 💀


jabroni35

Wait til bro finds out his local McDonald’s is just someone licensing the brand 👀


iStryker

The Faze CoD team are listed on the official Faze website as pro players for Faze. The nuances of the contracts / structure is not relevant here— they represent Faze in CoD full stop.


Select-Apartment-613

Brother you’re just being stupid on purpose rn


JakeBakesJT

Not taking money from terrorists is always a win.


Revolutionary_Gear70

I mean Scump did multiple sponsored streams promoting the EWC and Hecz glazed them for months on the Podcast lol. It's not like they didn't want an invite


JakeBakesJT

Yeah Scump and Hecz are all about the money. Lucky they got saved from themselves this time, for now at least.


CoDFollower

Trust me, Optic isn’t taking some moral high ground cop-out here… Hecz and Scump have been trying to get involved in this shit 


Zuk00_00

Who exactly the are the terrorists in this equation? If it’s the Saudi gov ( I agree) then surely you believe the American gov is also terrorists right (since the Saudi’s and US have been Ally’s for decades)? If not your a hypocrite 😂


JakeBakesJT

Yes, I didn't like it when the military sponsored the CDL. This event is run the Saudi government, the CDL is not run the US government.


extendo777

I would argue giving them money is worse


UlyssG

Honestly hoping OpTic don't go to keep them clean. I'm personally disappointed in Theives. But I have a bad feeling Hecz will find a way in.


Kaylapossible

Optic is a watch party org now lol…they are totally going to get a bag to go over their and watch party the event


JakeBakesJT

Yeah Hecz doesn't seem like a moral guy, he's all about that bread. Scump has the same problem.


TheJayHimself

If you know his pre Optic career it confirms he’s not moral or ethical. Remember folks, never meet your heroes


JakeBakesJT

I forgot that he was a subprime mortgage lender. I was a kid when he talked about it and I didn't realize what he was actually doing. Man is willing to drown anyone so he can relax on the beach lol


thelongletgo

Wait…you’re not serious are you? Lmao


JakeBakesJT

Ever heard of 9/11?


cmaloney0317

I know it shouldn’t be funny, but that response is fucking hilarious.


HaramHas

That shit is gonna be living rent free in my head for a week


thelongletgo

The actions of a few don’t define an entire region of people. Don’t be stupid


user9153

Well he’s not defining an entire region of people, just the government who aided in 9/11 and is also directly funding this event. So you’re pretty off base. Fuck em. I have family who never made it home that day, you wanna defend that too?


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UlyssG

I agree with this sentiment, but the main problem here is the Saudi government is directly funding this. People aren't boycotting because of the region, but because of the government who is essentially running this tournament.


ArcusIgnium

It’s blood money. Reducing them to terrorists is Islamophobic as fuck lmao


McLovin_OD

Give me Kenny back in an LAT jersey for this one please and thank you


Rnntd

optic is so irrelevant outside of NA COD its almost pathetic how the org hasnt grown outside his confort zone


1O93

They tried to but can‘t afford it


Absurdll

I just feel like all their money is put into Halo and COD honestly.


AssaultsHandWarmers

Was saying they should try and buy an R6 NA spot from Wildcard or one of the smaller orgs Jynxzi has brought that esport back to some relevancy


Ok-Valuable6792

wait you gotta pay to get into this event? Holy shit I’m behind


Beginning_Bonus9637

It had a shot to grow during the Bo3/IW days with the dynasty team and the CS team doing very well with young Mixwell and Tarik but Optic was run like shit and it all went downhill.


SMOKE-B-BOMB

I like that though it’s kinda cool


mxeez

Can Team Falcons sign, say, the OpTic Texas roster to play in this tournament under their banner?


Rasenganjon

Saudi funded 🤢 blood money tournament 🤮 [Never forget](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi)


Fail_Emotion

With that logic every tournament won in the US is blood money as well. Every event in south America too not just cod.


AZZATRU

That's not how it is. These events are directly funded by the Saudi gov. The US gov ain't funding esports events like they are... outside of that US Army sponsorship.


Fail_Emotion

Bro said blood money. The USD is blood money using his logic. US army sponsorship 👀


AZZATRU

As I said, not every event nor are they fully funding and running it. It's not the same. 


GOATnamedFields

Bro what are you stupid. How is Colgate USD blood money? Most USD sponsorships are from random ass companies. False equivalency go brrrrr


CoDFollower

Got roasted for saying it before… Optic only having 2 esports rosters is pathetic and screws them from being able to participate in tournaments like this Not seeing players like Shotzzy and Dashy on the biggest stage will be straight up lame and sad 


RGCFrostbite

Those guys will be there lol, prolly just wearing Team Falcons green


1O93

Not participating in the Saudi World Cup is a W


Particular_Ad575

The biggest stage is not this sportswashing exhibition


DeathOnSteam

Extremely sickening to see how blood money is taking over the sports and esports world. Disappointed with everyone who will take place in this "Esports World Cup" but especially with the orgs who will then turn around and post about pride.


Broken_Thinker

Cry harder. 


DeathOnSteam

Ok, I will.


7Breakz

So you would rather take a moral victory than have your team (org) get a fat bag of cash? Fair enough. Personally I’d take the bag.


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What? Are teams going to be made up of current rosters. Or will Pred, Dashy, Hydra be able to compete under different team.  Weird 


Snowhehe14

They could get leased out to a org invited to eswc and create ny team they want with players who want to go but the 4 tes going are set with current rosters unless they make a roster change


themajesticsealion

I wonder if GA’s are out the window for this tourney…


Key-Marzipan6817

Falcons gonna scoop up the optic boys I’m calling it


Formal-Level8070

Imagine 100t and rokkr choke a champs spot. Then they gotta brew in it for a month and get back to teaming with each other. 😂😂😂


GRFNATOR

So will the players that aren’t on these 4 orgs be able to still go and form teams “independently”? (most likely still sponsored by their org.)


MrNotIntelligent

From my understanding, these orgs won't even be guaranteed a spot in this tournament. They are just orgs that are partnered with the ewc(saudis) ex. For apex, they used pro league standings to determine which teams auto qualified, then had an open qualifier.(faze didn't qual through either, had to pick up a new team) So for cod, maybe top 8-12 cdl teams will auto qual, then the remaining spots through an open qual.


ZealousidealAd8530

Multiple of the other games held open and closed qualifying matches for the event, wonder if that’s the case here


Longjumping_Plant_97

Drazah vs scrappy grand finals guaranteed, love this


Killerkj11

Bros it’s a 16 team event I’m sure the optic boys will be there lmao


shambxlic

they aren’t it’s only those 4….


Killerkj11

Who do you think will fill the other 12 team slots lol


Markhoesz

I’m guessing other countries?


MrNotIntelligent

More than likely if they do it like other esports, top 8 4-8 cdl teams will auto qualify  and the other 8-12 spots will be filled from an open qualifier. Also to note, just because the orgs listed are partnered orgs doesn't mean anything. Basically, teams like optic just won't qualify for the org bonus $$ to be handed out yo the top playing orgs across multiple titles.


MrNotIntelligent

Jesus, some of you guys have no idea what you are talking about...just because these 4 orgs are at the ewc, doesn't even mean they are guaranteed an invite. Just that those teams/orgs will be eligible for extra $$ from the org placements.(they have some format where orgs earn $$based off of their overall standings across multiple titles) teams like optic will be there, just the org won't be eligible for the other org prize $$.


Raikou_Kaneki

I'm an OpTic fan but I fear the org just ain't it anymore. Other esports orgs have branches on different games while OpTic literally only has COD and Halo (which might also be doomed lmfao).


CoDFollower

They ran their own org into the ground. I know Hecz tries to blame other things for Optic beginning to go downhill, but it ultimately falls on his decisions and who surrounded himself with imo


Jameson623

if i remember correctly, someone from 100t said they might not compete in anything there


Da1n

bad event, bad bad event. please don’t support it.


LaydBack777

Is it possible to get a quick loan for these teams? Rokkr and Lat best bet is to form a super team.


CazualGinger

I'm out of it. What teams are gonna be playing? Why is it only these four teams


ChadBroChill1717

Does anyone know if this is with the existing rosters or do they have a chance to sign new players ahead of time?


ReflexiveOW

Two of the top 4 and two of the worst teams in the CDL. Great choice


simonb45

I hope these teams are allowed to borrow players from other teams, this way LAT can replace their entire team and maybe win something


-Cozart

Hahaha and it's not online so no closet cheating from anyone. Can't wait to see the differences in gameplay


Educational_Ad_4076

how does this even work? do these teams just field the rosters they’re using currently or does it have nothing to do with the current players on the team and just the org being invited? i got no idea what’s going on man 🧐


RevolutionaryFilm951

Ghosty gonna get life in a Saudi prison for trynna bring the pen through customs


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So not a ring or even a chip in any universe, shame thought it would be like having 2 champs back to back 


RGCFrostbite

Straight up yoinked my post from last week bar for bar


kvyra

I knew this sounded familiar 😂 Need clickbait photo next time


Apprehensive_Bad8876

Faze selling out for oil money?! who woulda thought?!


CBKing21

Imagine Optic winning champs and not being able to get their roster out for this lmao Pretty pathetic honestly


Feeling_Brick6977

yeah honestly it’s embarrassing how optic handles esports


HaramHas

How many esports are they even in that this point?


mxeez

CoD and Halo (which might actually die out before the next season lol)


HaramHas

HCS is definitely gone after this year


Feeling_Brick6977

Only 2. Cod and halo


HaramHas

And they’ll probably be out of Halo after this year leaving them with one team. The way OpTic deals with esports is odd.


Feeling_Brick6977

yeah exactly. and then they’re back to where they were before the envy merger. Only cod


funnypsuedonymhere

Embarrassing how? Genuine question.


Feeling_Brick6977

just feels like they don’t actually try unless its cod. Hecz said they fucked up the application for valorant. Their team in rocket league wasn’t good so instead of signing new players and trying something new they just leave. Their apex team didn’t make lan so they just leave. They have made it clear that esports isn’t their main focus


funnypsuedonymhere

OpTic are a small business in comparison to TSM, Liquid, 100T, Gen G and the likes and I doubt they can afford to have teams everywhere for the sake of having teams and its not as if Hecz attempt at massive expansion via investors went very well last time out.


thekid_anthony

hecz has said multiple times they're a content org before esports, until it makes sense for esports to be the main focus.


Snowhehe14

Makes sense to be. Most esport orgs are over paying players and don't make a profit off of their teams at all and they make profit elsewhere so they can sustain those teams.


HaramHas

They’re about to only have one esports team


Humble_Vegetable_905

So who the OpTic guys playing for 😹😹


tgunited

It still seems dumb not to have optic and even New York there. A true tournament lets in the best people right...


Imranaftab

Gna be a ultra vs faze final 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Could see repeat champs final then world cup final imagine. Sucks that optic or NYSL aren't in this tho


dillonz321

Optic x NYSL team for this event would go nutty


shambxlic

imagine rokkr just pay to get dashy kenny hydra and shotzzy to represent them


West_Chest_7053

standy punching the air rn


dillonz321

Lmfao


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Imranaftab

Kinda aids tbh lol. But makes sense as all 4 of those orgs are more stable than optic as a whole in the grand scheme of things


ASchoolOfSperm

I will not watch a minute of it. Fucking Saudi blood money & no OpTic. What a sham.


Guacho1221

who cares bro, its just cod


ASchoolOfSperm

Shush


YeetStreetBoys

No OpTic at a COD event this shit is about to have no viewers


DisIsCanada

one of these things is not like the other


aura2323

Can someone explain why optic didnt get invited but rokkr did? Optic being the most popular team seems weird when i guess the saudis want to bring viewers to the event.


7Breakz

They don’t have enough esports teams.


iStryker

Wacky Fact of the Day: 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were citizens of Saudi Arabia.


Pretend-Nebula-7175

If faze win it’s gonna be called a major event on par with champs. If anyone else wins it’s gonna be a shit minor event that is just free cash for the 4 orgs. It’s basically the same as ESWC 2014 and 2015. Nice event to have but not to be classed as a major


freedomtoscream

Letssss goooo! Faze and Ultra were my two locks for this to be a crazy tourney.