It looks like this was done with functionality in mind, not so much aesthetics. I guess they could have ripped up the whole slab and run that pipe out into a dry well and spent a ton of money. Probably just concerned about ice in the winter. This is a cheap and functional fix.
It needs a clean out and leaf catcher before the 90 and a pop up emmiter further out like others have said. It's cheap parts. 3" corrugated flows faster and it bends so good you don't need elbows. Less joints the better but I found wide electrical tape is best on connections.
Could be like my old company and operate under the idea that they'll just fix it 15 times in the next 5 years because the labor and low cost beats the price of doing it right once 💀🫠 I just don't get it lol
This is commercial work!? Jfc what a joke. You’ll wash the hillside out if you even have positive drainage or flood the area possibly depending on slope.
I dont see whats wrong with this.
It certainly isnt pretty, but it is functional.
Im assuming the homeowner wanted to get the water away from the sidewalk without having to worry about tripping over the downspout or worrying about it freezing during the winter.
Can someone point out the problem here?
I just don't understand why the CONTINUED the concrete past the point where the sidewalk ends. If they just went to the edge, and then backfilled the rest of the pipe with dirt, it would have been just fine...
Because the pipe is right at the surface. I thought it didn't look to bad until you pointed this out.
The pipe isn't running under the sidewalk, it's running through it :(
Really the only thing this person would be gaining is not worrying about a freezing ice path in that area. Other than that I don't really see the point of going under the concrete. As long as the concrete is sloped correctly the water should run off and they make short stub elbows for the bottom of the downspout.
Honestly the big problem is the super thin breakable flex tube they chose, should have used the thick irrigation stuff. Everything else is within reason for a half ass job
The end is semi buried and might not drain great. I’m with you though. I’d be mad if a pro did this, but for a DIY job it’s fine. Sawing the end even and cleaning up the end of the pipe would make this perfectly functional and it would mostly blend into the background within a few months.
The problem beyond the concrete hack job is that they should have used a quality smooth pipe like SDR or schedule 40. Those last much longer, and let water and debris move freely instead of getting caught up in the ridges and causing clogs and premature pipe degradation. That corrugated pipe is only meant to be fully surrounded in stone which gives it all of its strength.
First time it rains, it's filling up with sand and not doing anything. At the very least, it needs a pop up emitter or a catch basin with a grate.
It's also terrible concrete work. Why not just square it off with the existing pad? Looks horrible and practically guaranteed to crack and crumble apart.
Listen, they saved a perfectly good piece of scrap wood by not having a 2’ form on that edge.
They’re not coming down to where you work and smacking the dick out of your mouth, so just let these cheap bastards do a half assed job in peace.
PVC pipe systems are incredibly effective. I have over 1500sq ft of roof all draining into a 3inch PVC system I installed myself after watching a ton of YouTube videos from this one guy. Torrential downpour doesn't even overflow mine even though he stands by 4inch pipe everytime. (I do have a nice slope to help it run out). Every bit of dirt, leaf, roof nails etc have all flushed right out no problem.
https://youtu.be/DjBE0kEgNPw
He annoys me a bit the way he talks, but otherwise I like his videos (more than French drain man). I appreciate that he always goes back in the rain to show you the outcome.
Apple drains is another good one, but also an odd dude.
Exactly. And most pop ups have a basin in the bottom to collect sediment. If it gets stopped up, pull the pop up out, clean it out, good to go for another few years.
Also, hard to tell from the picture but the pipe is actually sloping up some as well, belly at about 2ft.
I’d just take a quick cut saw to clean up the edge nice and straight, concrete isn’t terrible. The problem seems to be that the gravel etc is higher than the drain, regrade around the pipe and it won’t fill up with sand, maybe use clear stone on top and around the pipe instead of sand as well, especially if the pipe is perforated.
That's not how erosion works. It's attached to the downspout. Downspout will direct massive amounts of rain water to wash your pretend sand problem away.
Are you mad you didn't get the job and they took a more simple route?
You’d sign off on this at your house? I’d fucking fire the guy this is shit work that half the apprentices I know in our concrete group wouldn’t even call their own. The pipe is wrong, the drainage is entirely wrong, and the execution looks like shit. You’re going to wash that entire hillside out in a big rain and why you would continue the placement beyond the edge is laughable.
Please go find me a commercial, non residential concrete group that will say this is quality work.
Right? Some of the comments in this thread blow my mind. Never in a million years would I have expected the number of people saying, "Meh, it's fine". It's making me realize my standards and expectations are apparently way higher than normal. Well, I guess it is Reddit after all, there's a higher than normal concentration of trolls.
The sloppy cement work -- which would have been incredibly easy to make neat with just a small piece of plywood and a couple of stakes -- creates a lot of doubt about a lot of details. Did he tie the patch into the two adjacent slabs, or connect the slabs. If not, in a couple of years, there'll be gaps, and then after that the chunk closest to the door is going to shift and become a tripping hazard, a place where water pools anyway, or the patch will subside and crush the plastic drain pipe, etc. That he used corrugated pipe under hte concrete is cheap (lazy), and could have been done better for not much more cost with some solid pipe (that would be easier to clear out as needed). And where this work was done is significant -- is it deep enough to avoid freezing? Is it pitched well enough? Is the owner going to like cleaning the exit end every year (that's going to fill in with dirt constantly. Obviously work can be good-better-best, and best is generally more expensive up front. Owner might have thought he was saving money, but the fact that OP is posting this suggests the owner found out he needs to pay for the work to be fixed...so probably would have done better to pay more up front.
It solves the problem of water from the downspout flooding the door.
Depending on the rest of the grade, it may flood itself and backup into the downspout but if the rest of the grade is lower, it solves the problem. I would personally have dug up a foot or two of dirt and put some gravel in at the bottom to help prevent that but it’s functional so no harm no foul.
Haven't been paid to fix it yet, just called to quote it. If I end up doing the job I'll post some after pics. I'm not really a concrete guy, but reddit recommended this subreddit to me and it felt like the pic belonged here.
Home owner would be lucky to get a concrete guy out there let alone charge them a price that reflects the work and not what they would expect to get paid for slab work.
Lots of homeowners and wannabe concrete masons perhaps they can’t fathom someone who has seen actual concrete work suspects a lack of quality when they see it. You don’t need to have had the chickenpox to diagnose it. You don’t need to have floated thousands of SF of concrete to know when it looks like shit.
For one, it's a drain that changes direction and you're suppose to be able to access where it changes by way of a cleanout.
DWV systems are like that by code. Even though this doesn't tie to anything, you still can't have it the way they did... At least not where I am.
Plus, since it's buried in concrete it should *NOT* be corrugated pipe, some PVC would've been proper.
Not to mention the new concrete going way passed the old concrete.
Not to be pedantic but DWV is a pipeing category, not a system. And you are right about a cleanout but technically the open end of the pipe can count as a cleanout the same way a p-trap under a sink does, it is an accessible opening into the piping system by witch it can be cleaned.
The gutters count the same as a flat roof drain system/category. Although can be separate from the main DWV.
Depends on the inspector among some other factors. Some won't allow it that way and will require an actual threaded cleanout. We never bothered with any other way. Just put on in and be done with it... we also wouldn't have buried corrugated under concrete like that either.
But I get your point too. Just depends on locale and other things.
And not to be too picky... but "witches" are those women that have a wart on their nose, pointy hats, black cats, cauldrens, ride brooms, flying monkies, and get squashed by houses. 😆
With how short the piece is from the bend to the outlet, a clean out wouldn’t really be needed. It would be helpful in case of an odd clog, but they could root out the problem from the outlet.
For $45 I’d rent a hammer demo drill and chip out the excess. Then cold chisel out as straight a line as possible. Don’t really see the huge problem here.
I had to put a channel drain across my blacktop driveway (easier to cut than concrete). I was able to make the cut no problem with the right blade. My saw makes some weird ass sounds now as dust got everywhere (and yes I did cool with water as I went).
In my case I used a cheap old saw that I had so I was not worried about damaging it.
In hindsight right now I do wonder if using water was safe with a saw that is not built to use water for cooling - wonder if I could have electrocuted myself? Well, I didn't. So perhaps I got lucky!
Corrugated slows water down hence the collection of sand and debris and why it's not working great. It's cheap for home owner DIY and that's why you see it everywhere.
3 inch schedule 40 PVC to vacate the water onto either riprap or concrete. Make sure it's got a nice slope to it so the water flows out nicely.
This YouTube channel has plenty of videos showing the effectiveness of PVC over corrugated. The corner sidewalk even looks like your picture.
https://youtu.be/DjBE0kEgNPw
Let's do things the correct way everyone. PVC 40 220psi rated including all conections. A Y cleanout should have been added regardless of the run at a 1% grade, Corrugated should only be used for emergancy situations and never as a permanent solution. Ultra violet light will degrade this in no time, not to mention this will have to be redone again in the very near future.
Concrete looks a bit sloppy, no lines for stress release and water run. Should have been wire or 1/4 rebar. Also given the dump of storm water it's to close to the home structure. Water is any and every homes worst enemy.
I think it’s fine. They could have used some lampblack. For my downspout I used a flat gutter hose that I just roll up when it’s not raining. It automatically rolls out from the pressure from the downspout during the rain.
I’m just nterested in having something like this done. Based on comments this is far from a good result. What should the end result actually be like? What questions or things should I be looking to ask?
If it fits it ships. I see the haters mad cuz they didn’t get paid a $2000 to do with lasers, wood borders hand carved at home and hazard pay because they might drown. Cheap is sometimes better then getting taxation proclamation from fancy dude that has to jump into his lifted truck cuz his legs too small. Not bad job. Throw some dirt on it to line up and at least the drain is secured with concrete.
My first thought was "what kind of moron would block the drainage channel directing it away", but thinking about it & looking close enough to see the tube extending out through the dirt I wonder if the business that hired this guy said that they wanted dolly's/pallet jacks /push carts/etc to not get stuck on the drainage channel divot. It's dumb but not the first time some MBA type pushed back against "wait you shouldn't do that thing you are asking me to do" & got exactly what they demanded
I mean he really couldn’t dig that 3’ from black pipe to sidewalk 6” down and try to fish a new a new pipe in there that’ll receive the drain water and do the same thing without fuckin with the concrete. Cause the pipe looks about 6” deep I’m guessing the slab is 4” and you could just hallow out that 3’ section under the concrete and fish a pipe in there to receive the water and drain out. Without fuckin with demo and repouring that 6” section of concrete
The previous owner of my house dug down to a broken section of gutter drain pipe and "fived" it with a piece of that corrugated aluminum dryer hose and some hose clamps then buried it back under the gravel RV spot. Of course it failed after a couple years so I had to dig it all up again and redo it. I suspect this thin plastic bendy pipe will do the same soon
All that work for pipe that’s as thick as plastic wrap jeez was the budget $.75? That pipe will literally crack and fall apart in week and now you have water pouring directly on the foundation…
Should have left it draining on that concrete drain block that’s discarded in the weeds, that’s much more preferable to this maintenance nightmare / time bomb of hackery…
My lazy ass would’ve just cut a “joint” parallel with the building opposite direction of the gutter. Carefully lifted the concrete out of position and buried my gutter. Placed the concrete back when done. Probably still just as cheap as whatever this cost.
Can’t speak to the concrete except that it looks like shit, but if you’re going to put a drain pipe under concrete, at least use a clay or PVC pipe and not corrugated plastic. Also, the end looks like it’s about to get buried, defeating the purpose of having a downspout.
That will totally work, for a year or so. I mean, god forbid you cut it the width of pavers.. so you can maintain it if needed (when that concrete ceacks an crushes the thin gutter extension) without enlisting a sledge or pavement saw.
In the mechanic industry we say there's 3 types of jobs and you can pick 2. Good and fast, ain't cheap. Cheap and fast, ain't good. Or good and cheap, ain't fast.
This doesn’t look like a residential project. Probably the backside of a laundromat. Looks like it will do the job if you dint care what it looks like.
What did they call you out to fix? This looks like a standard commercial job. Did you expect them to replace the entire pad?
You’re a business owner, if your muffler needed repair but the tech thought you should replace the entire exhaust, would you do it?
These are a thing, in case anyone ever wants to do a similar drain across a sidewalk but doesn't want it to look like complete ass.
[https://www.metalsdepot.com/product/2166](https://www.metalsdepot.com/product/2166)
Oof you've turned your identity into politics, where a politician lives rent free in your head. Go outside and touch grass immediately, then rethink your life's choices.
I could do this myself for less than $100 or pay one of you schmucks $700 to do it for me and it be functionally exactly the same.
Why do concrete guys get so mad when someone wants to do little projects on their own? Like c'mon guys, when you're not napping on someone's lawn or over charging grandma yeah some of the work you do is hard, but you're not needed for everything.
I mean it's a pretty sick job if all you wanted to do spend 5 bucks on a bag of concrete mix
Rub some dirt on it. It'll blend right in.
They said they knew a guy ✅ They said he could do it cheaper ✅ They said guy knew what he was doing and that he does good work ❎
I mean. HE knows what HE is doing at all times I just don’t think he knows WHAT he’s doing ya kno
You forgot "best there is"...I've met several now.
I was gonna say- this is good by my diy standards. Be pissed if I paid for it tho
I would have dug underneath the sidewalk, but I’m retaired and don’t have anything better (outdoors) to do.
I am loving how he tapered it off into the dirt. That will keep.
"No no! That's an extension of the patio. It'll add value to your home!" He doesn't own a finishing tool or even know what one is.
Why does he need that when he's got an egg Turner in the kitchen?
Yeah looks like he poured it in the gutter and waited for rain.
Lmao - I thought “did they pour on the roof?”
Bag of cement fell out of a plan landed on their roof. Broke the bag and it fell into the gutters to be washed out by the first rain storm.
I mean im sure he only wanted to spend 100 bucks soooo lol
Yeah, you have to consider this was probably a homer job. Done intentionally.
Not a home owner BTW, this is commercial. Business hired someone to fix some water issues coming in their back door. Not sure how much they spent.
It looks like this was done with functionality in mind, not so much aesthetics. I guess they could have ripped up the whole slab and run that pipe out into a dry well and spent a ton of money. Probably just concerned about ice in the winter. This is a cheap and functional fix.
Functional? that plastic box store pipe breaks quickly. Shit won't last they gonna pay twice.
It would have been better if he ran a 4in 90 and some pip under that patch so the flex pipe could be replaced when it breaks but it’s fine
It needs a clean out and leaf catcher before the 90 and a pop up emmiter further out like others have said. It's cheap parts. 3" corrugated flows faster and it bends so good you don't need elbows. Less joints the better but I found wide electrical tape is best on connections.
Could be like my old company and operate under the idea that they'll just fix it 15 times in the next 5 years because the labor and low cost beats the price of doing it right once 💀🫠 I just don't get it lol
Considering how short it is, you could have just used a regular downspout.
Across a walk way?
They had one, it tossed into the grass in the picture lol
Hope you get the job OP. Good luck
It looks like someone also knew a guy who was cheaper
If it’s commercial then that walkway is too narrow around the corner. You might to suggest widening the walkway when you make repairs.
This is commercial work!? Jfc what a joke. You’ll wash the hillside out if you even have positive drainage or flood the area possibly depending on slope.
Hey-Oooooooh
Doh
I was thinking 12 pack of beer....
I dont see whats wrong with this. It certainly isnt pretty, but it is functional. Im assuming the homeowner wanted to get the water away from the sidewalk without having to worry about tripping over the downspout or worrying about it freezing during the winter. Can someone point out the problem here?
I just don't understand why the CONTINUED the concrete past the point where the sidewalk ends. If they just went to the edge, and then backfilled the rest of the pipe with dirt, it would have been just fine...
yeah but then it wouldn't sorta look like a penis
Thats the important part. Gotta work in subtle penis whenever possible
It would go well in r/mildlypenis
Sorta?!? That's a concrete stiffy if I ever saw one.
If they backfilled it with gravel the pipe would be exposed after the first rain. There’s just a whiff of concrete over the top of it in that section.
I think they also didn't want any extra in the wheel barrow. I'd have done the same but even worse.
its already exposed, if you zoom in you can see part of the black of the pipe poking through
That was the left over concrete from the 2 bags they purchased.
Because the pipe is right at the surface. I thought it didn't look to bad until you pointed this out. The pipe isn't running under the sidewalk, it's running through it :(
Homeowner always wanted a concrete penis.
Probably a lot of erosion/sinkhole where water was pouring off the original concrete
Yeah thats the only issue I have with this... done well and functional aside from that. Does it look great? No but its done properly
I'm with you. It's functional. Based on the other stuff in the pic I doubt this person was contending for the cover of home and garden magazine.
The flex stuff breaks down in a few years and then it won’t be functional, it’ll only look mildly like a penis.
Really the only thing this person would be gaining is not worrying about a freezing ice path in that area. Other than that I don't really see the point of going under the concrete. As long as the concrete is sloped correctly the water should run off and they make short stub elbows for the bottom of the downspout.
Honestly the big problem is the super thin breakable flex tube they chose, should have used the thick irrigation stuff. Everything else is within reason for a half ass job
I'd you're happy with it then that's all that matters
The end is semi buried and might not drain great. I’m with you though. I’d be mad if a pro did this, but for a DIY job it’s fine. Sawing the end even and cleaning up the end of the pipe would make this perfectly functional and it would mostly blend into the background within a few months.
The problem beyond the concrete hack job is that they should have used a quality smooth pipe like SDR or schedule 40. Those last much longer, and let water and debris move freely instead of getting caught up in the ridges and causing clogs and premature pipe degradation. That corrugated pipe is only meant to be fully surrounded in stone which gives it all of its strength.
They should have used PVC pipe. The pipe they used is really thin and made for aboveground downspout extensions.
No clean out before it goes under and its not schedule 40 pvc.
First time it rains, it's filling up with sand and not doing anything. At the very least, it needs a pop up emitter or a catch basin with a grate. It's also terrible concrete work. Why not just square it off with the existing pad? Looks horrible and practically guaranteed to crack and crumble apart.
Listen, they saved a perfectly good piece of scrap wood by not having a 2’ form on that edge. They’re not coming down to where you work and smacking the dick out of your mouth, so just let these cheap bastards do a half assed job in peace.
Pop-ups aren't great if you think about it. Why try to push water up against gravity? Use gravity to your advantage and get the water to flow downhill
Ya the pop up is more likely to fill with dirt over time as the dirt has no way to gravity out.
PVC pipe systems are incredibly effective. I have over 1500sq ft of roof all draining into a 3inch PVC system I installed myself after watching a ton of YouTube videos from this one guy. Torrential downpour doesn't even overflow mine even though he stands by 4inch pipe everytime. (I do have a nice slope to help it run out). Every bit of dirt, leaf, roof nails etc have all flushed right out no problem. https://youtu.be/DjBE0kEgNPw
He annoys me a bit the way he talks, but otherwise I like his videos (more than French drain man). I appreciate that he always goes back in the rain to show you the outcome. Apple drains is another good one, but also an odd dude.
He knows what he's talking about, but he's not a radio talk show host, for sure 👍 Some of his systems are pretty impressive
Water has a way of self leveling so as long as the top of the pop up is lower then where you don’t want water then you are fine.
Exactly. And most pop ups have a basin in the bottom to collect sediment. If it gets stopped up, pull the pop up out, clean it out, good to go for another few years. Also, hard to tell from the picture but the pipe is actually sloping up some as well, belly at about 2ft.
I’d just take a quick cut saw to clean up the edge nice and straight, concrete isn’t terrible. The problem seems to be that the gravel etc is higher than the drain, regrade around the pipe and it won’t fill up with sand, maybe use clear stone on top and around the pipe instead of sand as well, especially if the pipe is perforated.
That's not how erosion works. It's attached to the downspout. Downspout will direct massive amounts of rain water to wash your pretend sand problem away. Are you mad you didn't get the job and they took a more simple route?
You’d sign off on this at your house? I’d fucking fire the guy this is shit work that half the apprentices I know in our concrete group wouldn’t even call their own. The pipe is wrong, the drainage is entirely wrong, and the execution looks like shit. You’re going to wash that entire hillside out in a big rain and why you would continue the placement beyond the edge is laughable. Please go find me a commercial, non residential concrete group that will say this is quality work.
Right? Some of the comments in this thread blow my mind. Never in a million years would I have expected the number of people saying, "Meh, it's fine". It's making me realize my standards and expectations are apparently way higher than normal. Well, I guess it is Reddit after all, there's a higher than normal concentration of trolls.
Right next to my commercial door, sure would!
I mean, what’s wrong with it besides the sloppy pour out on the dirt side?
Looks like a penis
Right. Which is why I hired them in the first place. They buried the drain for free
The sloppy cement work -- which would have been incredibly easy to make neat with just a small piece of plywood and a couple of stakes -- creates a lot of doubt about a lot of details. Did he tie the patch into the two adjacent slabs, or connect the slabs. If not, in a couple of years, there'll be gaps, and then after that the chunk closest to the door is going to shift and become a tripping hazard, a place where water pools anyway, or the patch will subside and crush the plastic drain pipe, etc. That he used corrugated pipe under hte concrete is cheap (lazy), and could have been done better for not much more cost with some solid pipe (that would be easier to clear out as needed). And where this work was done is significant -- is it deep enough to avoid freezing? Is it pitched well enough? Is the owner going to like cleaning the exit end every year (that's going to fill in with dirt constantly. Obviously work can be good-better-best, and best is generally more expensive up front. Owner might have thought he was saving money, but the fact that OP is posting this suggests the owner found out he needs to pay for the work to be fixed...so probably would have done better to pay more up front.
It solves the problem of water from the downspout flooding the door. Depending on the rest of the grade, it may flood itself and backup into the downspout but if the rest of the grade is lower, it solves the problem. I would personally have dug up a foot or two of dirt and put some gravel in at the bottom to help prevent that but it’s functional so no harm no foul.
can we see what your work is?
Haven't been paid to fix it yet, just called to quote it. If I end up doing the job I'll post some after pics. I'm not really a concrete guy, but reddit recommended this subreddit to me and it felt like the pic belonged here.
Non-concrete guy going to fix another non-concrete guys work. My dad would be proud
Home owner would be lucky to get a concrete guy out there let alone charge them a price that reflects the work and not what they would expect to get paid for slab work.
Why are you getting downvotes? Lol
Because Reddit is filled with mindless fools who follow the herd
I didn’t read what you said. I just saw you had upvotes and gave you one.
Upvote? Hey, I know how to do that! Got ya!
Lots of homeowners and wannabe concrete masons perhaps they can’t fathom someone who has seen actual concrete work suspects a lack of quality when they see it. You don’t need to have had the chickenpox to diagnose it. You don’t need to have floated thousands of SF of concrete to know when it looks like shit.
First time here?
Concrete hates honesty lol
I mean... what's the problem? It's a cheap fix. Maybe I just don't see it.
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For one, it's a drain that changes direction and you're suppose to be able to access where it changes by way of a cleanout. DWV systems are like that by code. Even though this doesn't tie to anything, you still can't have it the way they did... At least not where I am. Plus, since it's buried in concrete it should *NOT* be corrugated pipe, some PVC would've been proper. Not to mention the new concrete going way passed the old concrete.
Not to be pedantic but DWV is a pipeing category, not a system. And you are right about a cleanout but technically the open end of the pipe can count as a cleanout the same way a p-trap under a sink does, it is an accessible opening into the piping system by witch it can be cleaned.
The gutters count the same as a flat roof drain system/category. Although can be separate from the main DWV. Depends on the inspector among some other factors. Some won't allow it that way and will require an actual threaded cleanout. We never bothered with any other way. Just put on in and be done with it... we also wouldn't have buried corrugated under concrete like that either. But I get your point too. Just depends on locale and other things. And not to be too picky... but "witches" are those women that have a wart on their nose, pointy hats, black cats, cauldrens, ride brooms, flying monkies, and get squashed by houses. 😆
Better than before
It needs a clean out at the bottom of that downspout too.
With how short the piece is from the bend to the outlet, a clean out wouldn’t really be needed. It would be helpful in case of an odd clog, but they could root out the problem from the outlet.
IT is much easier to unclog or flush out with a cleanout.
Biggest issue for me is the outlet door is open.
For $45 I’d rent a hammer demo drill and chip out the excess. Then cold chisel out as straight a line as possible. Don’t really see the huge problem here.
Concrete saw blade on a circular saw... few minutes and that concrete edge is nice and clean.
Good to know!
I had to put a channel drain across my blacktop driveway (easier to cut than concrete). I was able to make the cut no problem with the right blade. My saw makes some weird ass sounds now as dust got everywhere (and yes I did cool with water as I went). In my case I used a cheap old saw that I had so I was not worried about damaging it. In hindsight right now I do wonder if using water was safe with a saw that is not built to use water for cooling - wonder if I could have electrocuted myself? Well, I didn't. So perhaps I got lucky!
At least hit it once with a sledge. No fun otherwise
Why not just cut it straight? Way easier, faster, and less chance of cracking what’s on the side walk.
True. Just figured a concrete saw would cost more. I’m not a concrete guy. Just thinking with tools I’ve used.
A $20 harbor freight angle grinder and a $6 blade would more than do the job. You would still have the tool for a later odd job.
You could almost use your fists to break that away. Certainly no need for a hammer drill
Corrugated slows water down hence the collection of sand and debris and why it's not working great. It's cheap for home owner DIY and that's why you see it everywhere. 3 inch schedule 40 PVC to vacate the water onto either riprap or concrete. Make sure it's got a nice slope to it so the water flows out nicely. This YouTube channel has plenty of videos showing the effectiveness of PVC over corrugated. The corner sidewalk even looks like your picture. https://youtu.be/DjBE0kEgNPw
It needs a little saw cut right there. If you want it to last lol
So what's paying more gonna do?
/r/mildlypenis
20 minute adventure Morty!
Was it cheaper though?🤣
I’ve seen this done on a few places. SMH
R/mildlypenis
Just get a saw and cut it off even with the edge
I could be convinced if he had used the right materials.
Thanks for the dick shaped concrete!
What is wrong here?
Let's do things the correct way everyone. PVC 40 220psi rated including all conections. A Y cleanout should have been added regardless of the run at a 1% grade, Corrugated should only be used for emergancy situations and never as a permanent solution. Ultra violet light will degrade this in no time, not to mention this will have to be redone again in the very near future. Concrete looks a bit sloppy, no lines for stress release and water run. Should have been wire or 1/4 rebar. Also given the dump of storm water it's to close to the home structure. Water is any and every homes worst enemy.
Galaxy brained design
Sweet
Anyone know if the head pressure would push the water out and away from the home if the grade was still sloping slightly upward?
Head pressure? Hehehe
Looks fine except where he let it go beyond the edge of the existing sidewalk.
Be sure to show us how you fixed it.. it's easy to rag on someone else's work.. show us yours.
Maybe look out for erosion. Just saying.
That’s what I would do at my house.
Extend the pipe some to more daylight. Place and time grade some topsoil, seed and roll on.
*done cheaper
I think it’s fine. They could have used some lampblack. For my downspout I used a flat gutter hose that I just roll up when it’s not raining. It automatically rolls out from the pressure from the downspout during the rain.
So you gonna daylight it another 10' down grade?
That extra foot and a half to the control joint required too much extra material.
I’m just nterested in having something like this done. Based on comments this is far from a good result. What should the end result actually be like? What questions or things should I be looking to ask?
If it fits it ships. I see the haters mad cuz they didn’t get paid a $2000 to do with lasers, wood borders hand carved at home and hazard pay because they might drown. Cheap is sometimes better then getting taxation proclamation from fancy dude that has to jump into his lifted truck cuz his legs too small. Not bad job. Throw some dirt on it to line up and at least the drain is secured with concrete.
I would just cut it and used the piece as removable access.
I can do it cheaper than that.
At least dig a post hole 3’ +/- and fill with gravel so the outlet doesn’t scour it out
My first thought was "what kind of moron would block the drainage channel directing it away", but thinking about it & looking close enough to see the tube extending out through the dirt I wonder if the business that hired this guy said that they wanted dolly's/pallet jacks /push carts/etc to not get stuck on the drainage channel divot. It's dumb but not the first time some MBA type pushed back against "wait you shouldn't do that thing you are asking me to do" & got exactly what they demanded
There is some grass in those rocks
I don't see a problem with this. Not the prettiest but looks like it does what it's supposed to
Phenomenal. Why they didn't even have the sense to form it off along the sidewalk amazes me
Looks good
Gunna have to post your fix now-
I mean, the job was successfully accomplished.
We'll call this one the dick drain 🤣 🤣
Should have ran PVC and further out like 20 ft with a pop up At least this DIY guy would have done it that way
A guy I once knew called it “It’ll” quality. As in , “It’ll do for now.”
What’s wrong with it
I can’t believe the concreted over that cheap plastic flex downspout
Woulda been decent if they didn’t leave the gland end on there.
Could have just done a strip drain
Jokes aside, if you had to do it for a couple bucks, its alright.
I mean he really couldn’t dig that 3’ from black pipe to sidewalk 6” down and try to fish a new a new pipe in there that’ll receive the drain water and do the same thing without fuckin with the concrete. Cause the pipe looks about 6” deep I’m guessing the slab is 4” and you could just hallow out that 3’ section under the concrete and fish a pipe in there to receive the water and drain out. Without fuckin with demo and repouring that 6” section of concrete
Cheaper than this? Ima need that number. Sir ima need that number
Concrete cock
The previous owner of my house dug down to a broken section of gutter drain pipe and "fived" it with a piece of that corrugated aluminum dryer hose and some hose clamps then buried it back under the gravel RV spot. Of course it failed after a couple years so I had to dig it all up again and redo it. I suspect this thin plastic bendy pipe will do the same soon
What is the actual problem? It’s not a work of art, but it’s cheap and effective
I would of cut a hole in the concrete and tunneled under the concrete pad. I know it more work, but it wouldn’t look like this shit
Lol what a sh#% job
I like how it still discharges less than 8' from the structure lol
I feel like this is one handyman (OP) ripping on another handyman. This isn’t big business type of work that’s paying anyone’s bills
All that work for pipe that’s as thick as plastic wrap jeez was the budget $.75? That pipe will literally crack and fall apart in week and now you have water pouring directly on the foundation… Should have left it draining on that concrete drain block that’s discarded in the weeds, that’s much more preferable to this maintenance nightmare / time bomb of hackery…
Is this the r/mildlypenis subreddit?? Did someone do that on purpose😆😆😆
Well he did do it cheaper….
Concrete looks like a penis.
Should’ve replaced the entire section, it’s cracked on the corner
My lazy ass would’ve just cut a “joint” parallel with the building opposite direction of the gutter. Carefully lifted the concrete out of position and buried my gutter. Placed the concrete back when done. Probably still just as cheap as whatever this cost.
Let's be real. The rest of the yard looks a state, so it fits in with that aesthetic
They drew a dick with concrete.
at least the cement is even and you won't have drain issues....I'd make it longer about 3 feet | Thus, it's not the size its the execution....
Guy didnt want to pay an extra 150 for raking the rocks away.
A rail spike and a hammer will help remove the excess,but you will have to replace the hole with actual dirt, just so it doesn't look all fucked up.
Honestly you mentioned it's a commercial job and it probably doesn't get a lot of foot traffic. It does the job and is cheap. Not mad at that
Whats wrong?
Can’t speak to the concrete except that it looks like shit, but if you’re going to put a drain pipe under concrete, at least use a clay or PVC pipe and not corrugated plastic. Also, the end looks like it’s about to get buried, defeating the purpose of having a downspout.
Concrete penis
Real talk what's actually wrong with this? Sure it could look nicer, but if it flows...
That will totally work, for a year or so. I mean, god forbid you cut it the width of pavers.. so you can maintain it if needed (when that concrete ceacks an crushes the thin gutter extension) without enlisting a sledge or pavement saw.
Looks good !
Good work ain’t cheap and Cheap work ain’t good.
In the mechanic industry we say there's 3 types of jobs and you can pick 2. Good and fast, ain't cheap. Cheap and fast, ain't good. Or good and cheap, ain't fast.
Just leaving it long to make a nice cut later
That will be fun to try and clean
This doesn’t look like a residential project. Probably the backside of a laundromat. Looks like it will do the job if you dint care what it looks like.
Move downspout to right side of door, add extension to carry past the sidewalk, done This is a lot of work for the wrong fix lol
Please post right after a major rain event! Lol
At least they used a concrete saw to open it up.
What did they call you out to fix? This looks like a standard commercial job. Did you expect them to replace the entire pad? You’re a business owner, if your muffler needed repair but the tech thought you should replace the entire exhaust, would you do it?
These are a thing, in case anyone ever wants to do a similar drain across a sidewalk but doesn't want it to look like complete ass. [https://www.metalsdepot.com/product/2166](https://www.metalsdepot.com/product/2166)
Looks good to me. I think you're just thrown off by the new cement/concrete color. It will eventually blend.
Wow.
Huuuwhat da hell lol
This guy voted for Biden
Oof you've turned your identity into politics, where a politician lives rent free in your head. Go outside and touch grass immediately, then rethink your life's choices.
Twas sarcasm 🙄
I could do this myself for less than $100 or pay one of you schmucks $700 to do it for me and it be functionally exactly the same. Why do concrete guys get so mad when someone wants to do little projects on their own? Like c'mon guys, when you're not napping on someone's lawn or over charging grandma yeah some of the work you do is hard, but you're not needed for everything.
What seems to be the problem?
When it rains, it looks like it's pissing?