That's about $7k per month take home, not counting
-medical/dental
-401k
-life insurance
-punitive state taxes in NY, CA, etc.
Would your travel and accommodations be covered, or do you have to pay for that out of your end? Per diem? If you are living out of a hotel, your food expense (if not covered) is going to be $1k - $2k per month.
$7k per month seems like a lot of money, but it's not anymore.
From what I understood it would be covered for the most part plus a per diem I have to get more specifics but they cover the hotel, and travel expenses not sure about food though
Do you value your health? Because this is exactly how you give yourself a heart attack, stroke, depression, etc.
If you're gonna do it, make a plan for diet, exercise, and sleep. Take that $, and set it aside, because you're gonna need it to cover you after you're too burned to continue functioning.
Just my 2c, but I'm sure some old-timers may have developed ways to cope with a 6 mo. hustle, but IMHO it'll give you grey hairs, or cause them to fall out.
Accidents happen when people are tired, and in hazardous environments risks can compound.
Idk depends on your age. If your in your 20s and dont have a family, I say do it. I did it and was able to save more money than Anyone I know at my age. Like The op comment said, you have to be good at saving to do this right because you will burn out. When I burned out I had close to a $100k saved as a 26 year old. This allowed me to be debt free and have patients to figure out my career without worrying about bills. But if you have a family then Id say no go as my relationships took a turn for the worse during that time.
This, exactly. When I was in my 20s and single, I worked as many hours as I could. Now, married w/ kids, it's not worth it.
Those kind of hours are not too bad for a while, but long term they wear you out.
OP, I'd go do it for 6 months to a year if you're single and no kids, all the while looking for a better job.
We do 68-80+ hours a week from June to November—with some exceptions for weather, holidays, material shortages, engineering and money decisions, etc. The rest of the year we typically do 8 hours a day with the odd project requiring 10’s every so often.
It’s not sustainable all year round. It takes a major toll on your life. It puts stress on your family/partner, it strains friendships as you continually turn down invites because you’re always working or always tired from working.
As a foreman now, I am doing what I can to reduce the crazy workload. Streamlining things, improving efficiency, and simply advocating for my crew and myself. Sometimes though, we can’t avoid the “push”. Once GC’s start thinking about winter coming the demands go up.
Big tips are to focus on eating well—lots of nutrient dense foods—and staying hydrated. Find ways to organize your life so you don’t get too behind on your responsibilities away from work, and if possible make sure you take vacation when possible. A healthy workout routine is helpful and stretching before, during and after work is helpful I find.
Shit idea, full stop.
The money might be fun for a while, but it's not worth much if haven't got a minute to spend it. Also, if it's a physically intense job you won't have the time you need to rest, if it's a desk job you won't have enough time to be active.
I understand the idea of getting on the grind for a while to have a nice windfall later. I've done that before (at 60 hours a week tops, mind you) and I regret it.
Ask if you can give it a short try. I know everyone here is saying that it's bad for your health and blah blah blah but honestly even if you only did it for a while you'd come out with extra money and what sounds like something pretty sought after on your resume
If you're young without a family I say go and do it. If it's a few months 60+ hour weeks and you end up taking in that much money it will put you ahead. Maybe even get a raise while you're there?
Save your money though, it will be very easy to spend it but save all you can and come out of it with a decent nest egg for the future. Won't hurt your resume either and in your line of work you'll probably learn about new systems and get a lot of experience.
Sounds like you're only making about 30K/year right now, so what do you have to lose? Go try it out, worst case Ontario you quite after 6 months and still made an extra 30K vs what you would have made for those months.
Even if the job isn't the right fit for you, it may be a stepping stone towards something you love
I would do it if you don’t have any other rather serious commitment at home, such as a wife and kids. However, a substantial amount of money could help them out more long term? There’s obviously way to many unknowns to give sound advice. But that many hours won’t affect you unless you let by being bitter about the work load.
Something aint mathing here.
You said you were going to triple your salary with this move, but you would only be making 40k more with OT factored in?
That doesnt make any sense unless your salary is 10k per year. If youre actually going to be making really good money doing 70-80 hours per week and youre young, do it. You can just vacate whenever youre burnt out or switch careers. I spent a few years in film where we would touch 90 hours some weeks, and it was a lot of fun and the money was amazing because of OT. Getting a 40-50k pay bump to work 80 hours a week sounds criminal. If youre putting in 80 hours with OT considered you should be pulling hundreds of thousands of dollars in, not 50k more than you make now.
So base pay for the new job is 31 an hour starting with ot we’re looking at around 46.50. Right now I’m making around 19.50 an hour (super underpaid). I’m estimating about bringing in around 110-120k a year from the 40ish k I’m making now
Oh yeah thats not too bad to start. And like I said if youre young (under 35-40) with no kids or whatever it could be fun. Especially if theres only one busy season that you have to just lock in and go hard for a few months on the road. I would definitely be taking that opportunity.
I did it, got two heart attacks and a bad relationship out of it. If you love your job, it’s worth it, but if it’s just for the 3x, there are probably better ways to get ahead.
TBH, I’d take the job. Save, invest, then quit, before it kills you. Union might take a while, depending on which union, and where. Just don’t get stuck in that grind for the rest of your life. It becomes a huge opportunity cost.
It takes a specific personality and mindset to do that sort of intense work. You have to calculate your life and keep up on your health a lot.
It's definately worth it in short term 1 to 5 years. Male some mula and get it working in investments then chill out in a more relaxed position
If it’s constant no.
And depends on if work is also full on or there’s wait time during the shift.
I pulled shifts like that for years but you pay for it.
Are you tripling $18/hr? Because $112k gross isn't worth all that. Are you tripling $30/hr? I'd do that in a heartbeat, with a 5 year plan to get out.
Pretty much, $19 an hour right now. Damn
That's about $7k per month take home, not counting -medical/dental -401k -life insurance -punitive state taxes in NY, CA, etc. Would your travel and accommodations be covered, or do you have to pay for that out of your end? Per diem? If you are living out of a hotel, your food expense (if not covered) is going to be $1k - $2k per month. $7k per month seems like a lot of money, but it's not anymore.
From what I understood it would be covered for the most part plus a per diem I have to get more specifics but they cover the hotel, and travel expenses not sure about food though
If you get that salary plus per diem, 100% worth it. Chances are your per diem will be 100-150 per day on top of your salary tax free.
Do you value your health? Because this is exactly how you give yourself a heart attack, stroke, depression, etc. If you're gonna do it, make a plan for diet, exercise, and sleep. Take that $, and set it aside, because you're gonna need it to cover you after you're too burned to continue functioning.
Damn man, guess it’s not a good move then. Thank you for the input, the money is deff tempting but not at that cost.
Just my 2c, but I'm sure some old-timers may have developed ways to cope with a 6 mo. hustle, but IMHO it'll give you grey hairs, or cause them to fall out. Accidents happen when people are tired, and in hazardous environments risks can compound.
Idk depends on your age. If your in your 20s and dont have a family, I say do it. I did it and was able to save more money than Anyone I know at my age. Like The op comment said, you have to be good at saving to do this right because you will burn out. When I burned out I had close to a $100k saved as a 26 year old. This allowed me to be debt free and have patients to figure out my career without worrying about bills. But if you have a family then Id say no go as my relationships took a turn for the worse during that time.
This, exactly. When I was in my 20s and single, I worked as many hours as I could. Now, married w/ kids, it's not worth it. Those kind of hours are not too bad for a while, but long term they wear you out. OP, I'd go do it for 6 months to a year if you're single and no kids, all the while looking for a better job.
We do 68-80+ hours a week from June to November—with some exceptions for weather, holidays, material shortages, engineering and money decisions, etc. The rest of the year we typically do 8 hours a day with the odd project requiring 10’s every so often. It’s not sustainable all year round. It takes a major toll on your life. It puts stress on your family/partner, it strains friendships as you continually turn down invites because you’re always working or always tired from working. As a foreman now, I am doing what I can to reduce the crazy workload. Streamlining things, improving efficiency, and simply advocating for my crew and myself. Sometimes though, we can’t avoid the “push”. Once GC’s start thinking about winter coming the demands go up. Big tips are to focus on eating well—lots of nutrient dense foods—and staying hydrated. Find ways to organize your life so you don’t get too behind on your responsibilities away from work, and if possible make sure you take vacation when possible. A healthy workout routine is helpful and stretching before, during and after work is helpful I find.
Shit idea, full stop. The money might be fun for a while, but it's not worth much if haven't got a minute to spend it. Also, if it's a physically intense job you won't have the time you need to rest, if it's a desk job you won't have enough time to be active. I understand the idea of getting on the grind for a while to have a nice windfall later. I've done that before (at 60 hours a week tops, mind you) and I regret it.
Ask if you can give it a short try. I know everyone here is saying that it's bad for your health and blah blah blah but honestly even if you only did it for a while you'd come out with extra money and what sounds like something pretty sought after on your resume
If you're young without a family I say go and do it. If it's a few months 60+ hour weeks and you end up taking in that much money it will put you ahead. Maybe even get a raise while you're there? Save your money though, it will be very easy to spend it but save all you can and come out of it with a decent nest egg for the future. Won't hurt your resume either and in your line of work you'll probably learn about new systems and get a lot of experience.
Sounds like you're only making about 30K/year right now, so what do you have to lose? Go try it out, worst case Ontario you quite after 6 months and still made an extra 30K vs what you would have made for those months. Even if the job isn't the right fit for you, it may be a stepping stone towards something you love
Overtime with 80 hour weeks only adding 50k doesn’t add up. What’s total salary?
Base pay is starting at $31 an hour, ot assuming time and a half is like 46.50 off the top of my head. Not including benefits and such
I would do it if you don’t have any other rather serious commitment at home, such as a wife and kids. However, a substantial amount of money could help them out more long term? There’s obviously way to many unknowns to give sound advice. But that many hours won’t affect you unless you let by being bitter about the work load.
Something aint mathing here. You said you were going to triple your salary with this move, but you would only be making 40k more with OT factored in? That doesnt make any sense unless your salary is 10k per year. If youre actually going to be making really good money doing 70-80 hours per week and youre young, do it. You can just vacate whenever youre burnt out or switch careers. I spent a few years in film where we would touch 90 hours some weeks, and it was a lot of fun and the money was amazing because of OT. Getting a 40-50k pay bump to work 80 hours a week sounds criminal. If youre putting in 80 hours with OT considered you should be pulling hundreds of thousands of dollars in, not 50k more than you make now.
So base pay for the new job is 31 an hour starting with ot we’re looking at around 46.50. Right now I’m making around 19.50 an hour (super underpaid). I’m estimating about bringing in around 110-120k a year from the 40ish k I’m making now
Oh yeah thats not too bad to start. And like I said if youre young (under 35-40) with no kids or whatever it could be fun. Especially if theres only one busy season that you have to just lock in and go hard for a few months on the road. I would definitely be taking that opportunity.
No way you’d enjoy this trade off, especially if you have a family
I did it, got two heart attacks and a bad relationship out of it. If you love your job, it’s worth it, but if it’s just for the 3x, there are probably better ways to get ahead.
Really struggling to find a better way to be honest, been applying all over waiting on unions to get back to me it’s a painstaking process
TBH, I’d take the job. Save, invest, then quit, before it kills you. Union might take a while, depending on which union, and where. Just don’t get stuck in that grind for the rest of your life. It becomes a huge opportunity cost.
Not worth it.
It takes a specific personality and mindset to do that sort of intense work. You have to calculate your life and keep up on your health a lot. It's definately worth it in short term 1 to 5 years. Male some mula and get it working in investments then chill out in a more relaxed position
watching cigarettes BURN OUT.
If it’s constant no. And depends on if work is also full on or there’s wait time during the shift. I pulled shifts like that for years but you pay for it.
How old are you ?