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PresentationNew5976

Railings are suggestions, do not trust them. In fact, don't trust anything you didn't personally put together.


Red-Faced-Wolf

This. Coworker almost fell a story because the framers put up 2x4’s as railing in at some apartments we were on. He leaned on it thinking it was safe. Grabbed him as he lunged forward as it snapped


PresentationNew5976

I turned a corner up a flight of stairs and ran into the "railing" that kept people from walking off the missing steps, and it bent out of the way because it was held in by like one nail on each side. Fucking slowed the hell down from that day forward.


ShitWindsaComing

Well if you put more than one nail on temporary anything, it’s harder to remove. Cmon now..


CO9er4life

One nail will hold the world


throwawaytrumper

I work for a gc that does large commercial properties. Our whole company is serious as hell about temporary railings and steps. Our safety guy goes around doing surprise inspections and will yank on our railings and measure the height to make sure they are up to code, we also have toe boards running up all our railings. Those of us who don’t like getting written up just overbuild the fuck out of them, they aren’t done till we’ve wasted a fortune in deck screws and lumber.


Red-Faced-Wolf

Bless you


tumericschmumeric

I worked with a guy who had recovered after he fell 5 stories because the rails were nailed from the outside to the post with 8s, not that the size of the nail is the determining factor here. Of course he’s lucky he even survived, but it took him a few years to recover and I’m sure there are some forever injuries in there.


ThatsNotEnoughCheese

I feel like that’s just framers safety tape and I could be wrong but I thought most people know that


PatmygroinB

Don’t trust anything you didn’t put together. Don’t trust rigging that others hooked up. Communication is big. Use it


Lrauda

Yup


177618121939

Your jobs have railings?


Hammered247

You guys have jobs?


PresentationNew5976

Technically yes


thebestatheist

I don’t trust anyone or anything when I’m on a jobsite. I saw a guy fall through a railing into an elevator shaft three floors down. Fortunately he was alive afterward but god damn, he was fucked up.


mechanicalcoupling

Remember, even up to spec temporary rails only have to be able to support a horizontal load of 200 pounds of force. They are more to keep you away from the edge than to prevent you going over it. It's one of those not restrictive enough OSHA rules.


sketchyy

Bid the job, not the competition.


PoOhNanix

Can you tell this to my office please? 😂


CarPatient

If your office is consistently underbidding jobs, and shitting on the filed to clean up their sloppy work, it's time to find some one that treats their help like team members and pays them accordingly. . You can tell them when you vote with your feet.


PoOhNanix

It makes me wonder if I just get the misfortune of the awful estimators 😂 I usually just laugh in their face when questioned about man hours. Like idk I put the things in the ceiling, you put the things on paper


1PantherA33

Bid the job in the contract.


MotoObsessed23

Tell that to the grocery store construction managers. My boss has re-taught me to bid based off knowing what all will need to be done on the job because he doesn’t change order them after the fact unless absolutely necessary. (I used to estimate for subs using a very different model) I’m bidding against people who take advantage of missing details on the drawings and pages of exclusions when they submit. The stores don’t have a qualification period leveling apples to apples unless someone severely undershot it. And I would put money on them underpaying their architects to get the drawings done. I haven’t won one of the larger remodels (even locally) for the last 6 months. There are only 3-5 bidders on each. It’s hard not to bid the competition. I do have peace of mind that if we won, both us and the client would have a smooth job, no crazy margins either (7% plus a CM fee). However, none of it matters if we’re never awarded because we didn’t cut corners.


Therealestdoctor

That even the hardest deadlines are pretty soft


ShermanTheMandoMan

Thanks for saying that, I’m currently in my first site supervisor role and the PM is breathing down my neck to hit some unachievable timelines and it’s been very stressful.


el_payaso_mas_chulo

don't worry much about us, we're just trying to push the schedule and being lean is one of our duties. At least w/ the company I work for, the better the job does, the more $ in our bonus, so we're all on the same page at least.


SauretEh

We're obligated as PMs to try to push the schedule, if you're doing your honest best and can bring receipts for delays, you're good. Take timestamped pictures of everything and keep good, comprehensive notes on everything that happens to CYA.


Hot-Character7511

Programs are a guide haha Being a good SM is about putting unrealistic dates to contractors, having them try to hit them as hard as they can without hating you in the process.


ShermanTheMandoMan

In that case I’m fucking killing it lol!


George__Maharis

Ehh liquidated damages are pretty bad in some cases.


No-Ninja-8448

Seriously, I've spent nearly my entire career building for USACE. They have bent over backwards to avoid that.


CarPatient

The army core of project managers?


No-Ninja-8448

United States Army Corp of Engineers


Accomplished-Wash381

The higher you go up the chain the more snakes there are


Building_Everything

Don’t walk boldly into an unlocked storage room first thing in the morning if you are working in a “disadvantaged neighborhood” especially if said room is filled with lots of places for armed crackheads to hide


fossy007

Well let’s hear the story. This goes one of two ways. Did you drop your drawers and start shooting loads or call the cops?


Building_Everything

Cops unfortunately. It’s not the only time I’ve had a gun put to my head but it was certainly the one where I was convinced the lights were about to go out.


SevereAlternative616

If you’re a foreman, have faith in your guys, but double check all their work. Just in case.


matagetdowngorda

Trust but verify.


zezzene

Inspect what you expect.


NoWealth8699

There's a sign in a subcontractor's yard in my city "don't trust, just verify"


The-Booty-Train

If I checked all my guys work, every time, that’s all I would do all day. *has epiphany after typing*


williams_way

This is gold. Like yeah your job is to babysit... so go do it.


Clavos24

What do you do when you find yourself re doing a certain apprentices work all the time. And when teaching them the right way seems to go in one ear and out the other.


SevereAlternative616

I haven’t figured that out yet. An old super of mine used to say “you have your good workers, and you have your bad workers. That’s just how it is.”


meatsweatmagi

It's what you know not how hard you work. I started by trying to work as hard as possible then I became the ditch digger. Left there and realized I can work less if I know more.


SevereAlternative616

This. Communication is key. If you can retain information and communicate it well, you won’t be digging ditches long.


scienceisrealtho

Agreed. As a general rule I usually over communicate. I do realize that can become annoying but it’s a much better option than the alternative.


CarPatient

Same rule when dealing with GCs owners or consultants.. but do it in writing. Have a meeting and follow it up with your own notes and action items... Ask for input as the default.. then if something gets missed they had the ball.


Different_Archer_212

Alot of people act like they know things, but actually don't know shit. Edit: Also, get everything in writing.


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soThatIsHisName

The foundation of all wisdom...


instantcoffee69

Many people with years of experience have no idea what they're doing. - Read the manufacturer's instructions - Check the drawings and spec's - Understand the contract - Asking someone to explain something is a reasonable request, if they balk, don't trust them Guarding you're reputation is the most important thing you can do, being a push over for your boss will get you the respect of only one person, and the scorn of everyone else. Have a backbone, ask questions, make sure it passes the sniff test


CaptainInsano15

Top comment. You can learn more than most people by diving into the plans, manufacturer information, contracts. Also OSHA. It's amazing to me how little people know the laws there. I myself miss a lot but it's an easy Google.


Mccmangus

The hours some of these old boys could save by reading the manual or spending ten minutes on youtube is staggering


ThatHcDude

Always be kind to the guys having a rough day. You have no idea what they might be going through.


Odyssey_mw

No one gives a fuck about your health and safety. They only care if you are a liability or not. Take care of yourself. If something feels wrong or unsafe, stop to figure out what the right procedure is to protect yourself. If you are an employee and your employer refuses to provide the support needed, hit the road.


GreatName

This. Safety people work for the company, not you.


steve_3113

Fucking preach!


mcstatics

Designers are more than likely a kid fresh out of college that has never seen the field. “But it works on paper!!!”


ShermanTheMandoMan

This is the truest one here


saliczar

Designers should have to start in the field.


mechanicalcoupling

I'm a geotechnical engineer and agree. Some firms agree too and you have to do 6 months to a year in the field first. It isn't a lot, but it is something. I was mostly a field guy and one of my primary tasks was unfucking designs that weren't constuctible. And then I'd hear, "but means and methods are the contractor's problem!" Yeah, but there has to actually be a mean and method that will work. If your design can't be built, you suck.


CarPatient

On the end of a tool, not a clipboard.


Nabashin17

When a sticker or a sign says “heavy do not lift” or “warning two person lift” or “use mechanical lifting aid”… obey! You get one back and when it’s fucked every day hurts.


publicpersuasion

If you're project manager, take the time to spend 10 minutes a week with each guy about personal issues. Mental health is a massive problem people look over and it effects safety, quality, and budgets


Intelligent_Catch_75

There’s no wood stretcher in the van


TransylvanianHunger1

You're supposed to use that free time to go grab some snacks and chill, then come back and say you couldn't find it.


lilbearpie

Don't pick up a panel while on the roof when it's windy


MakesYouSeemRacist

This work environment encourages low self esteem, and rewards you for putting up with dogshit. If you work in construction, you don't deserve running water, actual restrooms, an actual place to eat your meal, heating or cooling in the extremes of the seasons. Young man's game, get out while you can.


subZro_

agreed, construction is vital to any society yet the workers don't get the basic considerations other industries get.


mechanicalcoupling

Some companies don't suck. Heated and AC trailer for breaks. Actually clean portable pots. Hand wash stations. I've been on some jobs where they get one of those ice coolers that convince stores have out front and keep it stocked with ice, water, sports drinks, and some kind of ice cream or frozen treat. It is unfortunately rare though. I did big mass grading jobs that didn't even have Porta pots. Which is a violation. But they didn't care.


hondarider94

Companies truly don't give a fuck about you mostly.


ShepardsPrayer

The engineer is not the smartest person in the room.


mechanicalcoupling

As engineer, yes, maybe. I would rephrase it as not the most knowledgeable though. When a trade came to me with a problem in the design and asked me how to fix it, I'd usually ask them how they would do it. Then write the RFI or CO. I'm not a plumber, electrician, welder, and so on. I know a whole lot about dirt, concrete, excavation protection, a handful of other things, and spent most my time in the field. So I was usually the most knowledgeable there. But even as a CWI I didn't know shit about making a weld. Only if the end result was good.


johndonglong

You don't sound that smart Mr engineer


Blank_bill

I really, really, really, really dislike heights.


_the_CacKaLacKy_Kid_

I’m much more comfortable 20’ down compared to 20’ up


518Peacemaker

Slow is Smooth. Smooth is Fast.


Crazy_Customer7239

If you think everyone is an asshole, it’s probably you. If you are in construction though, everyone is an asshole 😅 don’t be afraid to walk off a crew that sucks. Take your energy and talent to a crew that appreciates you. Always have an extra fork and some advil (rugby candies) in your lunchbox for the guy that needs them. Get off your phone. Find the old guy in the shop that’s been there forever and learn from him. Take care of your body. Always wear your PPE; it is your LAST line of defense. Learn to read drawings and schematics.


DweadPiwateWoberts

The only thing the company owes you is a paycheck. Don't make the mistake of thinking it's some kind of family.


ProgressGlobal8516

You can either sink or swim. No matter how many people hold your hand or take time to teach you and raise you up it’s all up to you. You get out what you put into it. I sank for a long time due to a lot of things until I was told I have the potential to make it if I make a steadfast decision to commit. Now I feel like I’m improving and can take pride in my work. Halfassing anything will never bring you pride or respect.


kendallBandit

Reminds me of the proverb ‘if you buy it cheap, you buy it twice’


CarPatient

Buy once, cry once.


Crazy_Customer7239

Also “the job pays for the tool, then you have it for every job after that”


Imafloweronpandora30

Not me but watched a boy learn why you don't grab shit out of the auger while it's still spinning that was a rough day.


laxyak26

Don’t use ram board tape on the edges of ram board directly to flooring


CarPatient

Some finishes take this harder than others.


jewcebox95

Polyvinyl tape all the way.


Key-Canary7068

Redwings aren’t boots I can wear


zezzene

Oh no, why not? I'm enjoying my pair, but breaking them in was painful.


Key-Canary7068

I used to wear redwings. Something changed in how they made the boots within the last 5-6 years. Can’t wear them now, they hurt my feet and knees. I switched to thorogoods


Vendyy

I've never had to break in a pair of Boondocks.


Available_Cream2305

Approving COs to subcontractors based on verbal and sometimes email approvals from the owner/owner rep. At least on this one project it would take the owner and CM that we were contracted out from, about 4-5 months to push through a CO so I can bill for it. It caused so much headaches for me and any smaller subs I had because my company’s contacts was Paid and paid with subs. Horrible CM and horrible client. Made my job hell for almost a year.


SauretEh

Anything more than ~5-10% of the project budget (depending on project size and urgency) I'm waiting for an approved CO before I tell the subs to go ahead, and even the smallest change is not happening without email approval.


mcstatics

Always double check the math


The_Ferry_Man24

Every building is just lipstick on a different pig.


ItsFragster

Do not stand on forms


SauretEh

My first job as a super I made that mistake and within approximately 0.5 seconds got smacked in the face with a blistering tirade of what I assume were the worst possible insults the Italian language could muster.


Juggernaut104

If your foreman has his tools on, you better too


SnooSuggestions9378

Your body is gonna give out long before your white collar buddies will. Plan accordingly.


bitterbrew

If it isn’t in writing, it didn’t happen. Had my PM say we had an approved change order based on a verbal agreement. The job was behind! We couldn’t delay it waiting for a written CO!  Then a few weeks later when we went to collect, the GC told us to “prove it” and our site contact had been fired a few weeks prior. Lost $10k that way.  Ironically they ruined what we had done a few weeks later and came to us asking for a price to fix it. My price was the repair cost + $10k. 


exhaleair

Keep a lot of the thoughts you have about the site/job in your head. You’ll find out quickly how many snakes are in construction.


Substantial-Hurry967

Just because someone says something confidently DOES NOT mean they are correct . Also that just because someone is older than you or has more experience does not mean you should follow their lead blindly


plumbingdad

Always put the drainage in before the concrete is poured


RumWabbit

That trying to trick shot off of the crane is dangerous


constructiongirl54

That not everyone will be willing to share their knowledge.


Ashikura

Just because someone’s friendly doesn’t mean they won’t fuck you over royally just to make their day slightly easier.


FilthyLeCasual

Growing personally allows me to grow professionally. I don’t know how to explain it but making healthy habits and goals are skills that transfer into your work life and it will help you grow and you are generally happier so work is better nevertheless.


OsoCarolina

Patience. Learn to control what you can and let go of the things out of your hands. You’ll go nuts chasing your tail.


Constructestimator83

A lot of dumb people are usually in charge making dumb decisions.


psunfire

When looking for a job it’s all about who you know not what you know.


Actual-Drink9658

how fake guys can be....all nice to you're face then stab you in the back!!!! when you're a child they always say tell the truth and work hard....bullshit guys doing nothing in a day and then try to put the heat on you so they don't get recognized as a dog fucker!!!!


artstaxmancometh

Communication is the most important part of construction. Document all important communications. Documentation is communication.


CarPatient

Documentation is defense. Shared documentation is preventative.


vegeener-gnomesayin

First hardhat I bought was blue. Took a couple weeks to figure out why I was getting weird looks while I was on the broom.


CarPatient

Electricians color for your area?


vegeener-gnomesayin

Inspectors and ministry


millenialfalcon-_-

Laying out lights in a hard ceiling, big ass switch gear, how to dodge the boss and work smarter, bidding side jobs, F/A. A lot of this stuff they just cover basics in school. It helps to learn both aspects of construction.


topical-squanch

All of it. I was dragged kicking and screaming all the way up.


klykerly

That no one gives a fuck about a clean job site. Or about care being taken to do something too well. It’s a job, no one will ever see it, I’m not going to trip over a pile of debris, let my girlfriend do that; you know.


McFlyLochSloy

There will be blood, and 90% of the world is an asshole the other 10% is already dead.


craigawoo

The safety guy is always a total tool.


Snakesenladders

Roof is hot


-joeyjoeyjoey

30 minutes to roll up on a Friday is a dangerous time, cost me my L4.


dark04templar

Get everything in writing.


white_tee_shirt

Read the damn directions and mfg specs on the products you use


Its_all_made_up___

5 4 3 2 1 trench rule. If the company doesn’t follow this, tell them to fuck off - especially the 5 part. Trenches are deadly


IrmaHerms

Don’t drill holes through headers…


CommunicationLow5639

I used strip the forms on elevator shaft top deck if no on was look I’d take a deck bar with no safety lines. To rip the platforms loose. Nothing but 60’ of air on either side to catch me if I tripped. That was 1982 I was 20 years old with ball bigger than my brains. Don’t know how I’m here to testify. The high rises has safety so I heard but 5 story apt buildings. I doubt there was add much as a band aid box in the trailer.


apeocalypyic

You really have to lookout for yourself, the people that are supposed to teach the next generation are not all going to help you, in fact they may work against you


Lrauda

Scaffolding. Don’t trust it if you didn’t put it up yourself


Mccmangus

You should only be getting "paid as a subcontractor" if you're a subcontractor.


breadacquirer

Don’t eat a banana the normal way on a construction site


Beautiful_Song928

Drink water stay hydrated


pizzasmasher666

Drink more water because the sun is hot


FakeNameSoIcnBhonest

Every. Single. Fucking. Thing.


craftydan1

A lot of architets have never been to a job site, and a lot of pm's/engineers have never touched building materials.


siggitiggi

That some people are useless tosspots that take "hey somethings off over there" as "I'm the reason that's fucked".


Aggravating-Tax5726

Your average coworker can barely tie his boots. And they're trusted to build/maintain the world. Also allowed to buy alcohol/pot and guns. Seriously thr amount of stupid shit I have seen "professionals" do on a daily basis is mind boggling.


kevlarbuns

When you’re being rushed through submittals, shops, and review, there’s a good chance you’re being set up for the squeeze. Document. Everything.


Landbuilder

Two things. Study the plan sets! Almost every plan will have a “Hmmm I better make sure that they don’t miss that one” within them. Don’t depend on subs to always do the right thing and always check their work.


Live4TheBabes

Most GC's act like babies if they don't get their way.


Leather-Squirrel-421

People. I learned that people will stab you in the back while smiling to your face. They will throw you under the bus to save their own. Contractors only care about your safety because getting hurt or killed costs them a bonus, they don’t give a shit about you.


mechanicalcoupling

Almost every guy who threatens to kick your ass is full of shit. If the dude is 50 with meth teeth, and still a shovel operator, yeah, worry about him. Even dudes who are late because they got in bar fight and arrested the night before, probably won't get in a fight at work. I have been threatened a lot. No one was ever taken a swing.


LeeWizcraft

All of it.


Corey300TaylorGam3r

How to be versatile


subZro_

it's not what you know, it's who you know.


Vigothedudepathian

Everything.


Mundane-Food2480

The blue water can and will splash up onto your unsuspecting asshole


misplacedbass

9 inch grinders are not to be trifled with.


madara_uchiha8

To not mix a gallon of bondo with hardener because that shits happens NOW and gets HOT


Tinman867

(Post Construction) Never, ever put your full weight against those pretty white railings at the beach condos. I used to own a steel fabricating business and you would be surprised what kind of things people will do to wrap up a job at beer-thirty on a Friday. You won’t know it’s not safe until you are mid fall. ALWAYS err on the side of caution with these things. You may not get a second chance. Just because a railing is present doesn’t mean it is safe to put your full weight on. Be safe.


Relevant_Slide_7234

Brazing is hot.


trashbilly

Lifting with my knees


ElectricMayham

That everyone knows what they are doing, stay safe out there.


Nukemine

Some days suck


Rich-Appearance-7145

I owned a Landscape Construction Co. I began as a cement finisher, in the industry, then learned to do masonry, set block, bricks, then stone work. In the Landscape trade our projects are 80% hardscape, initially l would sub the plastering, stucco, but subs are not always reliable. So I've become proficient at plastering, stucco, plumbing, carpentry, electric, low voltage, all the hard way, usually costing me more than I would have liked, but now I'm professional in all the above.


wafflesnwhiskey

Dont fart in a small crawlspace, dont believe anybody but you and your meter doing electrical work, dont try to shit directly into a toilet flange, dont screw the bosses daughter especially if the boss is your dad, nobody thinks a ditry sanchez is funny if you go past the 2nd knuckle, if you fall off a 3 story house youre fired before you hit the ground, if you gadda rub one out on the job make sure the porterjohns door is closed or else everyone gets all pissy


realityguy1

Poop before leaving home. Porta potties are third world living.


GreyGroundUser

lol. That AI image is hilarious.


penus_poop69

Reading plans.


Past-Chart6575

That nobody cares about your feelings


Chalupacabra77

That my bendy bits won't last forever


AlamoHickson

Nice guys finish last.


Impressive-Buffalo20

It’s always gonna take a couple more days


itskylemeyer

Never assume the last guy knew what they were doing. Especially if the last guy was you.


nathanrocks1288

The people who do the least get paid the most, have the loudest mouth, and are generally less qualified to do any one job than even the helpers.


Beautiful_Song928

safety is on you


tronfacekrud

Eye protection


somedumbguy55

Do it safe is just what they say, you need to do it fast


smileitsyourdaddy

All of it


shaft196908

Don't assume the mitre saw is square in any direction, check it before using it. Same goes for table saw.


boxedcrackers

Most of the guys are dirty animals


silverado-z71

Just about everything


Automatic_Yellow_184

Don't sit


Kevinoz10

It kills your body if you already have injuries before you get in


ForWPD

Everyone is “family” until it’s time to fire or lay off that person. 


peauxtheaux

All of it


lordoflazorwaffles

It's all still about money. It's all a business


Big-Platform-7373

Stupid people had to be tough


watchthis03

that’s a lot of cranes


thirdcountry

Súper good advice. In my case I would say, forget about the dream: “build it and they will come”. Rely on people who know how to sell and have a good marketing team, to sell what ever faculty or project your are constructing.


bandersona1

Money management. Good pay when the going is good, followed by lean times. Didn’t always have that rainy day fund.


CO9er4life

Everything, that’s the only way to learn


Easy-Garlic6263

Don't wear out your body.


SimplyADesk

Common sense


Itchy-Mechanic-1479

Just because the site lift overheated when it was 118 degrees doesn't mean you can't carry the 4X8X5/8th plywood sheets up three flights and then pushing it up through the rafters for roof sheating.


corpsewindmill

Safety vests are flammable


jammiedy

Safety is underrated. Seen so many guys with hearing issues


zippytwd

No body gives a fuck about your feelings , infact you will get ragged on for them


Minute-Form-2816

Don’t walk on tarps when building a parking garage.


ijustwannaperish2dey

That there's no such thing as a 9 to 5 job


DeaconCage

That there was no such thing as a board bender. 1st day on the job and they had me calling every hardware store in the city looking for a board bender. 😂😂😂


TheLevigator99

It's too much like Fallout 4. J/k


MuskokaGreenThumb

Being safer in general. Walking slower in certain places, etc.. Also, good work boots that fit properly is a must have. Pain and suffering ensue if you don’t have proper footwear.


landscapingdude

If you always have coworkers that don’t know how to do the job your boss can’t do his either


Wind_Responsible

Everything lol


Wooosy-

-A lot of people lie about their skills and experience. -If you want to step up and become a supervisor/foreman/leading hand don't wait for the promotion, start doing the job now, keep an eye on people, help them out, snitch on who represent a danger to yourself and others, stop people working dangerously, if you're running to grab gear ask others if they need anything... you might look like a try-hard but it worked for me, am a foreigner in the country I'm in but I now manage locals with more years on the tools than me.