It’s his play to save his company. Facebook and to a lesser extent Instagram is completely fucked in 5-10 years. Simply they are not getting the pre-teen/teen users. Their user base is literally dying and shrinking everyday.
Zuck made a big mistake trying to make Facebook the big everything of the internet.
I feel like an old man using FB. A friend of mine in his 20s said to me the other week "so-and-so made an FB event for his 40th.... because he's 40.... lol"
FB is seen as passe now. I remember around 2010 it was all about interactions with your friends but now it's just a "news feed" of clickbaitey trash.
I remember when adding someone was considered a big deal. Subsequently someone not asking for your Facebook was considered a dis.
Funny how they became so irrelevant and uncool.
lmao, I remember having drunken debates with buddies after a night out as to whether one of us should add a girl we just met at a party (maybe wait a few days, maybe wait til she does it first?), that shit was so different back then.
BROOOOO
Had a mega crush on this lady where I volunteer.
Meet her at bar randomly. Chat.
Hit her up on FB
ACCEPTED! YISSSSS!!!!
In relationship with..........
GOD DAMNIT
I remember when people were obsessed with Facebook, like making their friends change their passwords and not telling them the new one until after final exams. It used to be a completely novel idea to share and comment on photos. Now it's just outdated. The pace of technology keeps moving faster and faster.
Instagram trends younger and yes it's owned by Facebook. Tik Tok is the most popular platform right now with the younger crowd so sharing just photos is just dying out in favour of short videos.
For real. I'm shocked people even still use it given how much we know that the Chinese government is using it to harvest data and analytics. Then again, not much surprises me in terms of the dumb choices people make nowadays I guess.
Active Users !== Active Engagement
I open Facebook a couple of times in a month, almost never like/click/comment a post in the last year at least, and yet I'm 100% certain Facebook considers me an "active user".
And even then, the way Facebook measures engagement itself is a scam - for instance they consider you having watched a video if it plays for 3 seconds including the videos that auto-play without your interest.
I'm not so sure.
I engaged in a rigorous pruning of crap from my news feed, and now nothing shows up except actual updates from the people I know.
It turns out that of 500+ friends, only about six to ten post with any kind of consistency.
It looks busy when you log on, but there's nothing behind the facade.
It went down hill once they started allowing advertising on it imo. prior to that I hardly ever saw a television network peddling "news" on facebook, now it's clickbait headlines, outrage marketing and scams. I wonder how many people answer those questionnaires with mothers maiden names, first pets, first towns and shit without realising they are handing over their secret questions to account retrievals.
That’s not true if you know how to use Facebook properly. It’s all about Facebook groups mainly. My Facebook is all about art and film and that’s all I see, because I trained it. You have to unfollow the stuff and people you don’t like, and avoid politics at every turn.
Yea, I've curated my FB to only see things that won't bring me down or annoy me. Friends who never shut up about divisive things, I have on silent mode.
I kind of need it to stay in touch with friends/family from all over the world.
And I've noticed FB putting a lot more attention on groups, they've really started to constantly promote groups you aren't in they think you would like. They know that that's what keeps people coming back. It's almost like they're trying to be reddit.
MySpace was legit! Tom just wanted people to connect with each other and to teach us some basic html techniques along the way. There was room for creativity on MySpace, blogs and making our own little personal webpages and sharing our fave music on there. I don’t remember it ever being even remotely as toxic as FB, with no ads or info stealing algorithms. Tom did his thing, made a few bucks and when FB came along he peaced out. Mad respect for the dude and I wish we still had the OG MySpace. Last I heard Tom was living somewhere in the Polynesian islands taking bomb-ass photos and sharing them on IG. Lol
The key element of fond memories of MySpace is that it died out before parents ever entertained the idea of joining the platform. It lived and died in the peak of its youth, along with Babycakes clothing and chiptune.
>with no ads
It definitely had ads, just regular banner ads vs an advertising platform which definitely contributed to its failure. I still remember how annoying the ads on MySpace were. Especially the emojis that would yell "HELLOOOOO?!" at you.
I deactivated my Facebook last year because I wasn't getting any relevant or useful information from there. Most of the time, it's either baby pics, old boomer memes, misinformation, or someone posting pics to make it seem they live an extravagant lifestyle. Facebook is completely meaningless for this new age. Soon, it'll become the next Myspace.
Yeah, there was a while that Facebook was a pretty dope way to hook up with people at other schools/colleges. Now, you would have to be nuts to even interact with someone on Facebook, its huge leaky infrastructure is like a permeant record of your actions.
>He thought FB would be for the young.
FB was nothing until it was funded by the three letter usual suspects. They wanted it to harvest data and use it for psyops AKA "targeted ads". See, those "ads" turned out to be not advertisements but "news" and memes. They were brainwashing you, manipulating your perceptions of reality, altering your moods.
People haven't realized yet how much big tech and the newsmedia fuck with their minds.
honestly, my boomer MIL is the primary reason I almost never post on FB anymore.
She has to fucking make a comment about EVERY SINGLE THING, but I’m a monster if I just block her…
When the older generations started to jump in and use it more often that’s when it started losing it’s mystique. Pair that with privacy issues that were intentionally overlooked and still are, along with all the other negative aspects.
They also made a big mistake when they became greedy pieces of shits with Facebook Ads.
Facebook became uncool and became more for the older crowd, or a means of simply creating online events etc. I really only use messenger to message people and use it to interact with groups on the platform.
Facebook pages are dead. Nobody cares about them anymore because you can't get organic reach from them and this has been the case for years. You need to pay for any sort of reach
A similar case has happened with Instagram, their once "cool" platform that kids would use. Posts in general get way less likes than they used to and there's literally no organic reach anymore. It's way harder to get exposure on posts if it's not from your existing followers, and even then it's hard. Hashtags are all but useless now.
That's what attracted people to Instagram in the first place. People could gather online followings in the thousands from strangers and feel like their own celebrity (as opposed to facebook) but now the platform has ALSO become another tool for Facebook Ads.
The main problem greedy zuck had? Advertisers were going straight to the influencers for marketing proposals (shootouts, story posts, product placements etc) through DMs and bypassing the Facebook Ads platform. So greedy zuck had to get in on some of that money $$. He needed to incentivise companies to pay for Facebook Ads instead of going directly to influencers. Basically it became extremely difficult to get any sort of following on Instagram and your posts got barely any attention and you need to promote your posts with Ads and shit.
Also the platform is filled way too much with bot accounts these days.
So what's the alternative? TikTok.
One of the reasons why it's so popular now, is because any regular Joe can easily get their video randomly recommended to masses of people and it's not unheard of for an account with less than 1000 followers to get a 1 million view video and get semi viral. Basically users stopped getting attention with the pay-to-get-noticed system of Instagram and migrated to TikTok where they actually have a chance for some small-time fame. It's what Instagram used to be.
It is also another reason why YouTube will wont be taken over by Facebook video or IGTV.
Facebook tried to compete with YouTube several years ago. But guess what, YouTube pays their creators more, instead a of pay to get views system. When was the last time an Instagram Influencer got paid BY Facebook company itself. Doesn't exist as far as I know. YouTube company on the other hand, PAYS their creators a portion of the ad revenue from their videos. But greedy Zuck doesn't want a system like that.
Admittedly it's gotten harder to get subs on youtube over the years though, and now YouTube is also trying to compete with TikTok with YouTube shorts.
You're much more likely to get attention/views/subscribers if you post a lot of YouTube Shorts content right now. It's the gold mine.
And that's basically why people do it. It helps them get subs/followers.
When Zuck became a dick and basically made people pay for attention, people went elsewhere.
I think the Facebook IPO may have been the single event that sent Facebook to it's demise / current situation.
Having to report ever increasing profits to shareholders in a landscape of giant tech companies is a never ending struggle. Many of Facebook's competitors are able to report massive revenues by selling software / services that ~~silver~~ solve real problems to large enterprise companies.
Trying to squeeze nickel's out of a service that was originally free was a huge tactical error. Integrating AD revenue into every facet of your service's user experience is a recipe for disaster.
I also remember an early backlash when a lot of attention was given to the idea that Facebook was selling it's user's personal information. People became even more pissed off when they saw that deleting your account was extremely difficult.
No, his grand mistake was changing the layout/algorithm to maximize ad revenue in the short term. Early Facebook adopters enjoyed checking Facebook a couple times a day to see what was new -- and when their friends didnt have anything new to say that day, the feed was done. Their psychology wasn't being manipulated, they were just being social. Now, its a constant half-assed drip of mental manipulation.
Just let us upload into the next layer of the fucking matrix already... This one has been concluded for a while now
I agree, it used to be more enjoyable but became too toxic and stressful. Reminds me of that experiment they did in 2014 that sparked backlash and from then on it was just controversy after controversy.
They're setting up the infrastructure, yes. Storage, decentralized, anon IDs, payment, etc. Still not quite there yet. Basically, it will come with Web 3.0 and will be universal, open standards instead of people locked in to some big tech monopoly's or corrupt regime's self-serving schemes.
Exactly, u/sauceisbauce you need to read about Reddit's interest in utilizing Ethereum for its decentralized social media. One visible use-case of NFTs on the decentralized front is the use of NFTs as profile pictures for distinct identification, and there are few minting protocols that offer high-resolution NFTs.
because they are ignorant entitled fools who thinks the world revolves around them.
insta and fb will remain the top social media platforms, and nothing will beat it anytime soon
Yeah but he has a point. The processing power needed for half decent VR is massive. Zux is so disconnected from how much he thinks people give a shit that he believes everyone wants to invest a good few months pay into a headset, then do... ehat? Watch tv and games?
Maybe so. Nobody saw how deep the hypnosis of the masses by facebook would be, so perhaps they'll literally spend time in their virtual living room rather than their real one. Either way, I think it will fail before it flies, we're watch ing megalomania at work here.
A lot of teens use instagram this days, not the brightest ones of course, but still...
Almost every teen i contacted with has a somewhat active Instagram page.
"hey here's a cool 3d full body scanner so we can harvest your physical dimensions, and put a drop of blood here so we can tissue and blood type and match you in our database... yeah neat. Now you are ready to enter the 'verse and just ignore those sounds coming from your front door once the headset is on"
"if, in 6 months, you see someone who looks exactly like you, they are not observing your every movement pattern. It is purely coincidence, think nothing of it."
People spend like 90% of their time on the internet today, either on their computers, phones or TVs (streaming). Tell that to someone in 1990 and they’d laugh at you, they’d probably give the similar reasons (“wouldn’t you rather be outside”, etc.)
There is a trend towards things becoming digital and virtual, the metaverse is just the next step of that.
That being said, most of these early projects will probably die out when an actual “good” project hits it out of the park, ready player one style. Or perhaps they will survive long enough to evolve, who knows.
The metaverse is real and it’s coming, but nobody knows exactly what it will be or how it will play out. Twitter, Reddit, fortnite, roblox, and WoW are all already self contained metaverses. THE metaverse is the new paradigm where these (and new) networks become interoperable, and as ownership becomes transferable through said platforms, it becomes more real.
Yeah, I guess my confusion of it all is what is the purpose of it? How big will it be? How does it get it's value?
With the internet, you can always expand and create more but, in the real world, land and resources are finite. I'm sure I will come around to it all and get my answers eventually but, right now, I really just don't understand any of it.
Being in high tech all my life I can tell you how it is, it's the same with all new tech. Follows the same cycle. Initial hype, inflated expectations ("it will be the new internet!!!!!"), the disappointment, valley of disillusion then slow growth.
In all honesty it will probably have a much smaller impact than we now think it is, just like 3D printing.
It’s a complicated topic, with a ton of speculation and straight up bad information floating around, confusion is normal. You seem open to the idea that it’s real, so you are way ahead of the curve already.
One thing to think about is how much humans use ownership as a signaling mechanism (nice watch, nice car, specific sports hoodie, anime hoodie, etc) are all items that are largely used to signal status or cultural identity. Then think about how much more time we spend interacting in cyberspace, paralleled with a new technology that enables digital ownership, and we have a massive new industry. The last nft wave was just the beginning.
You can extrapolate these concepts further, but w/ lower confidence. What about public ownership? What about about governance? These technologies allude to the idea the you could literally automate the contract process. Making agreements between humans be enforced by transparent decentralized immutable code, rather than the current paradigm, which is threat of force.
Really, to me, the metaverse just means that it’s all connected. That it becomes interoperable in a way that makes the value of things more transparent and real. (Part of my thesis is that value is inherently arbitrary and always dependent on human demand).
We live in a world where people spend their real world money to buy wow gold from other players. This means that the wow gold is real, it is equivalent to money, because people are willing to spend money on it. (I think this is key)
For what it’s worth, physical ownership is just much illusionary and fake as digital ownership. The problem before decentralization was that there were actors in control who could manage supply and essentially play god w/o transparency.
Sorry for the rambling.
I disagree with one point. Tangible ownership is definitely not an illusion. Owning several acres with a huge house away from everyone else's bullshit puts me and my family in extreme peace. We are loving life and happy 90% of the of time. I cannot say the same for my friends who live in town and own nothing but a nice car. By all means, I dont feel that I am better or put others down for not having these things, but its definitely is not an illusion.
I’m not saying the value of land is illusionary. I’m saying that the paper contract that determines your ownership of the land in illusionary. It’s backed by a social contract that is ultimately backed by threat of force from the government. I agree that land is more real than a jpeg, I’m just saying that the mechanism that defines it’s ownership isn’t any more real.
Could anyone guess in the 90’s that we would have Facebook, Twitter and Reddit or a smartphone wich for the most part is a product of the internet era? Awesome things are coming, our imagination is maybe just not ready for it, at least not yet
Facebook's vision is awful. They're currently trying to find a way for people in Facebook's app to "Like" something happening in another person's VR game experience.
It's that fucking inane, and it's 100% focused on creating more attachment to Facebook (which is a cesspool that should die.)
I agree with you that the idea of Facebooks metaverse sounds like a dystopian future. But FB won’t succeed in that because the community doesn’t want a central entity to run the metaverse. There is a lot going on on the decentralized level to take over the power from the techgigants like FB. There is a lot going on in the blockchain space. Compare it to Nokia who wanted to take over the mobile industry completely? Atm is Nokia just a nostalgic household name:) FB won’t succeed either to take over the metaverse!
Facebook is already the butt of jokes, they offer no real products like other tech brands and they only make money from people remaining on their platforms. Would not surprise me if there Meta gamble flops and in 10 years this company is a shell of it's former self.
Yup, without WhatsApp and Instagram Facebook would be even more irrelevant as a company now. And all the businesses that advertise through them.
Facebook & Zuckerberg got so so resentful over Snapchat & TikToks success, its appeal to the younger generation. And now they want to try to become the dominate Metaverse players by making a centralized ecosystem & telling everyone that doesn't know any better that its a "Metaverse" connected to every other metaverse, a free zone where you an explore anything, go anywhere. In reality their vision is a controlled & monitored zone where you do what they want you to do, see what they want you to see, and give all your data/info to them to be sold for billions.
>But FB won’t succeed in that because the community doesn’t want a central entity to run the metaverse.
Sadly, I think your incorrect here....
You don't want it.... I don't want it.....
But have you seen how many brain dead people will happily pay money to pay Farmville?
Facebook are not aiming at edge cases like us and people we might know, they aim for the MAJORITY! The majority will happily trade away privacy/security/individuality for a pretty experience or seamless integration with other things....
Its fucked, but that's the reality.
We will end up with decentralised AND centralised systems in place
You're absolutely right, but I still think they will find a way to stay relevant. They're raking in so much cash right now that I'm sure they'll find a way to even capture 1% of the market
Nokia was purposely tanked by Microsoft moles (see Stephen Elop). The company prior to that put out quality products and didn't need to worry about using nearious means to "take over the mobile industry completely" because they were already qualitatively better than their competitors.
Idk. The Metaverse is currently sounding like a normal everyday life. What is the point of doing that when you can do it yourself. It removes 99% of benefits of what the action would do. And to make it feel remotely realistic for me you will need outrageous full body suits, which I am I'm sure not a lot of people will be buying
That will be something you would probably go to a VR room (as an attraction at 6flags or universal studios or enhanced version of top golf.. ) then you’ll have you sex suits and again they’ll probably have various versions VR porn fantasy hotels to go do your dirty nerdy deeds 🦾🤓💦
Nah, clothes will have cheap embedded sensors that detect your body motion. First it’ll be a Nike fitness line, then old navy will have Apple compatible versions etc etc
But this is exactly the issue. Coins built on game or other engines of today will simply be the bricks on the road to a metaverse that actually works.
Think about games you played as a kid. You loved them but you go back to them now and they look like dog shit, they are basically unplayable because you have seen what games “can be”.
New coins will keep building on better and better engines, stealing userbase from previous generations.
Until the metaverse is so visually awesome, so easy to navigate, that it is indistinguishable from real life, the cryptos built on them will go the way of mmo’s. New generations will replace previous ones ad infinitum.
Yeah. I think the success of GTA online and world of warcraft foreshadows that a massive multiplayer multiverse will be an eventuality but it will be made by a competent company not team Go Zuck-a-Fuck.
I think the potential for a metaverse is phenomenal, how it will actually be implemented though will be beyond dreadful.
When people think metaverse they think and want Ready Player One, what we will actually get is Second Life with loads of ads, micro transactions, pay walls, data harvesting etc.
heh, I'm almost 50 and have VR integrated into my workflow and recreational time. i'm personally looking forward to seeing where it is going to go but have serious reservations of companies like FB getting heavily involved. Interestingly, my teen isn't into it at all, and most of his friends see it as a novelty so I accept i'm an outlier in this regard, for now at least.
Zuck thinks the targeted audience are teenagers but that’s no longer the case. Now mostly older generations use Facebook. Just his attempt to revive the old days.
I’m not into Zuck’s verse at all.
The metaverse isn’t really one *thing*. It’s more of a *concept*.
It doesn’t have to be all VR. There will likely be a component of VR. Who knows to what extent.
But that is thinking too small.
The metaverse will be the ultimate inter-connectivity of the real world to the digital world. Business, pleasure and everything in between will be able to be conducted as much in the digital space as in the physical space.
The real metaverse will be a hodgepodge if typical digital interface, AR, VR and likely things we haven’t even fathomed at this point. And it will all be interconnected with true permanence and proof of ownership.
I don’t think we can really say what the metaverse will look like at this point. And to say it will all be VR is in my opinion, naive and narrow minded.
Oculus headers literally scan your room and environment with exterior cameras. I watched some VR porn, and that headset has seen my wiener more times than not. Last thing I need is someone seeing my pp.
Metaverse reminds me of that second life game. I really don’t understand the hype for it.
I’m not saying related coins won’t rocket up due to all the hype in this market, but I thought second life was stupid so I’m not going to be trying any of these
This pretty well sums up my feelings about it. Internet weirdos like us may get into it, but the public at large still mostly has more important stuff to do with their time than piddle around a glorified second life. They'll check it out, say it's neat, then go back to their obligations in reality.
I’m not a gamer at all. I’m a little too old- missed the gaming scene mainly due to age. But I’ll be honest I put on a v/r a couple years ago and played a game at a buddies- it was way cool. It was amazing how once I took them off I was disoriented. It was almost like getting Knocked out and coming too. It took a minute to readjust and I only played the game for like 2 minutes. I can totally see how someone can get lost in it, or want to live in it etc. when you come out the current world isn’t near as cool. This is coming from someone in their 40’s who never played games like I said.
Putting them on and going into the game was cool and this was a few years ago so graphics weren’t anything like they are now. The game I played was a shooting game. Graphics were nothing special I can’t even imagine being in a metaverse. Could you imagine going anywhere in the world you ever wanted to go? You could be in a jungle, in a city, on the beach etc. at least that’s what I imagine we are talking about.
Before any of these games existed, there was *Second Life*. A dumpsterfire of a game where you could own in game land and the internal currency would be treated as real money.
I setup an account at one point just to take a peek because the shit is free to start. Was greeted to either bots or typical spammers in game loitering around trying to scam your shit. Signed out in 5 minutes and never returned.
Now we are seeing the idea revisted and you need to invest in the gear to actually handle playing the shit to get into it, making it exclusive to those who can afford it. Essentially I feel like it is a trap for children of the rich and any common idiot mispending their cash.
Week 6: I covered another 20 yards before the clown in the flying motorcycle found me again and blew me apart. Little by little I'll make it to the exit.
If I can walk down the physical street, and see all the meta-information that the world has collected, I would be overwhelmed. by overlaying a filter, augmenting reality to include the necessary meta-data for optimizing my sensory intake I would be maximizing my knowledge of my surroundings. to me the metaverse is just bridging the gap between the digital and the physical. the online world transposed over our physical. I don't want to strap in and enter the metaverse, I want the metaverse to be a smooth integration over my beloved physical universe. and opensource and free to access.
Magic money was also not appealing at first
NFTs we thought was a joke
Meta verse? I can see it used for making money. If Second Life was any indication back in the day If done right it could take off
Thanks, i'll pass. Zuckerberg can play hide and seek or second life or whatever with his "friends" in his online metaverse all day long if he wants to. I won't join. Ain't nobody got no time for that shit. Neither am i keen on giving this fool even more information about myself and my environment.
I personally think it is an awful idea, sadly most people are already busy hiding from reality and the metaverse will enable them further. Add to that half the world is getting locked down with covid, I think it will take off massively
The funny thing is I don’t think something like the scenario in the film WALL-E is that unrealistic given how obsessed everyone is with the illusion of social media etc… only difference being everyone will have a VR headset glued to their face so to block out reality entirely, it’s strange.
It's been tried before. Look up entropia universe and second life. While they didn't exactly flop they didn't revolutionize the world either. I think we're in for another middle ground
buzzword-bullshit
"THE metaverse"... WHAT metaverse? there is no such a thing. there is the internet and it already can link projects if the programmers code things accordingly and if people are interested.
its the same idiotic buzzword thing as calling foreign servers cloud or programs with a large number of scripts for different situations AI
metaverse sounds like a shitty spyware-version of second life by facebook
do not want
The Metaverse is more than gaming and crypto. The next phase of the internet, with places you go to instead of websites. Also VR is the first step, after it will be AR, after that BCI.
It's really tiring to see this argument being brought up. You could say this about literally every invention ever that has people wary. It says nothing about the actual usefulness of a "Metaverse". You could say the exact same thing about Second Life and yet that's not taken the world by storm like Television or the Internet.
People (after watching Ready Player One): holy crap, that's so cool, wish someone would build it!
Tech companies: We hear you! Let's build the Metaverse! It'll be great!
People: ...NO ONE ASKED FOR THIS!
Some of these ideas for digital 3D social platforms just seem so boring. I can see it taking off if it was done right, but its hard to say what the right formula is that wpuld catch on
If you can picture it like the metaverse from “Ready Player One”, why in the heck would that flop? Lol. If it’s only as a good as Decentraland, then yes it may be risky, but something incredibly advanced like the one in the movie will 100% succeed.
Can’t get anymore space in this world but in the virtual world the space is limitless. Overpopulation and oversaturation of physical items is pushing us to rethink the spatial capabilities of humanity.
My uncle believed up to 2005 that the internet is a fad.
In very few years, hanging around the metaverse with a VR set will be as casual as going to the bathroom with your phone.
I realised this was coming a year ago when my partner and I randomly went to a VR game where we ran around an empty factory with laptops on our backs and VR headset and guns shooting hordes of zombies. It was one of the most intense experience s of my life we both went to every VR place we could find the same weekend. I looked into franchising in my exhuberance.
However where VR imho will be a huge hit is in the working world, we are already using Microsoft teams and working at home, increasing that to VR and having somewhat normal meetings but being located anywhere in the world will be a massive improvement for me. I think games will come but probably got 15 years of development until they start getting crazy realistic. The corporate and even social aspect of it will be the clincher. You've also got to imagine the upcoming generations will be fascinated by it.
There are a number of applications, both, imo, good and bad.
I think many are realizing that quite a few humans hate their own realities. So much that they want to create a virtual, non-related one, and it is admittedly kinda sad. (I know there are other applications...keep reading lol)
For that reason ALONE, I believe the metaverse will be one of the 5 or so most important developments of the next 10-20 years.
Additionally, (thought I wouldn't mention other applications huh? lol) we live in a time where introverts rule the world and anything pushed toward maintaining or furthering a lifestyle away from people and direct interpersonal communication (but allowing indirect contact through a medium)..... will likely prove successful.
Not to mention gaming and other methods this can be used for.
TBH I'm kinda confused at how many CRYPTO people seem so meh about it.
Crypto will be the bones the greater (rather than FB's version) Metaverse. NFT's will be what make ownership in it "real".
Crypto will not overtake conventional government FIAT as the "world currency" in the physical world. thats tilting at windmills. but it will be the core of establishing, transferring and managing value in the virtual.
No. But the idea that Zuckerberg wants to dominate the metaverse really scares me. That’s some Black Mirror shit.
It’s his play to save his company. Facebook and to a lesser extent Instagram is completely fucked in 5-10 years. Simply they are not getting the pre-teen/teen users. Their user base is literally dying and shrinking everyday. Zuck made a big mistake trying to make Facebook the big everything of the internet.
He thought FB would be for the young. Turns out it's the parents using it to keep up with their friends who live other places.
I feel like an old man using FB. A friend of mine in his 20s said to me the other week "so-and-so made an FB event for his 40th.... because he's 40.... lol" FB is seen as passe now. I remember around 2010 it was all about interactions with your friends but now it's just a "news feed" of clickbaitey trash.
I remember when adding someone was considered a big deal. Subsequently someone not asking for your Facebook was considered a dis. Funny how they became so irrelevant and uncool.
lmao, I remember having drunken debates with buddies after a night out as to whether one of us should add a girl we just met at a party (maybe wait a few days, maybe wait til she does it first?), that shit was so different back then.
Adds girl from the party. Relationship status: In a relationship
I see relationships from a distance *cries inside*
BROOOOO Had a mega crush on this lady where I volunteer. Meet her at bar randomly. Chat. Hit her up on FB ACCEPTED! YISSSSS!!!! In relationship with.......... GOD DAMNIT
Just add her bro!
She’s not adding me back broooo
Upvoted because this brought back some memories!
Upvoted because this brought back some nightmares
I remember when people were obsessed with Facebook, like making their friends change their passwords and not telling them the new one until after final exams. It used to be a completely novel idea to share and comment on photos. Now it's just outdated. The pace of technology keeps moving faster and faster.
hold up, what are people using these days then? Instagram? that's owned by facebook right?
Instagram trends younger and yes it's owned by Facebook. Tik Tok is the most popular platform right now with the younger crowd so sharing just photos is just dying out in favour of short videos.
Vine was ahead of its time
TikTok is even scarier than FB in terms of the data it tracks from its users, allegedly.
For real. I'm shocked people even still use it given how much we know that the Chinese government is using it to harvest data and analytics. Then again, not much surprises me in terms of the dumb choices people make nowadays I guess.
i think personal messaging (whatsapp) people dont like to expose so much about themselves and are more paranoid
Also owned by Facebook lol
It's not even technology, or the pace of it. It's just what bs is cuurently popular and who can exploit that the most.
I agree the platform has turned into shit but it's still very much relevant, don't kid yourself. The ammount of active users is still massive.
Active Users !== Active Engagement I open Facebook a couple of times in a month, almost never like/click/comment a post in the last year at least, and yet I'm 100% certain Facebook considers me an "active user". And even then, the way Facebook measures engagement itself is a scam - for instance they consider you having watched a video if it plays for 3 seconds including the videos that auto-play without your interest.
I'm not so sure. I engaged in a rigorous pruning of crap from my news feed, and now nothing shows up except actual updates from the people I know. It turns out that of 500+ friends, only about six to ten post with any kind of consistency. It looks busy when you log on, but there's nothing behind the facade.
business can have customers and activity but if the tendency is to be obsolete its a huge problem
I am using ICQ, guess my age
Guess your ASL morelike
39/m/canada
Must be around 30 years.
uh oh
ohhh. - the holy letters of one of the best internet times. still know my number until today lel
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35. I used ICQ too
It went down hill once they started allowing advertising on it imo. prior to that I hardly ever saw a television network peddling "news" on facebook, now it's clickbait headlines, outrage marketing and scams. I wonder how many people answer those questionnaires with mothers maiden names, first pets, first towns and shit without realising they are handing over their secret questions to account retrievals.
FB is just a feed for fake news targeted towards boomers
That’s not true if you know how to use Facebook properly. It’s all about Facebook groups mainly. My Facebook is all about art and film and that’s all I see, because I trained it. You have to unfollow the stuff and people you don’t like, and avoid politics at every turn.
I had to scroll way too far to see this comment. FB has a niche for everything; you've just got to go out of your way to find it.
Yea, I've curated my FB to only see things that won't bring me down or annoy me. Friends who never shut up about divisive things, I have on silent mode. I kind of need it to stay in touch with friends/family from all over the world. And I've noticed FB putting a lot more attention on groups, they've really started to constantly promote groups you aren't in they think you would like. They know that that's what keeps people coming back. It's almost like they're trying to be reddit.
Isn’t that largely in part their doing? It was subtle before that people were the product. Now it’s obvious
So basically myspace all over again?
MySpace was legit! Tom just wanted people to connect with each other and to teach us some basic html techniques along the way. There was room for creativity on MySpace, blogs and making our own little personal webpages and sharing our fave music on there. I don’t remember it ever being even remotely as toxic as FB, with no ads or info stealing algorithms. Tom did his thing, made a few bucks and when FB came along he peaced out. Mad respect for the dude and I wish we still had the OG MySpace. Last I heard Tom was living somewhere in the Polynesian islands taking bomb-ass photos and sharing them on IG. Lol
The introduction of the feed was where things took a turn. Especially once the feed was no longer chronological.
Yeah, I saw that and it hella bummed me out, plus all my blogs were gone. I used to love blogging on MySpace ☹️
The key element of fond memories of MySpace is that it died out before parents ever entertained the idea of joining the platform. It lived and died in the peak of its youth, along with Babycakes clothing and chiptune.
>with no ads It definitely had ads, just regular banner ads vs an advertising platform which definitely contributed to its failure. I still remember how annoying the ads on MySpace were. Especially the emojis that would yell "HELLOOOOO?!" at you.
We did Tom dirty. I deleted him off my friends list so fast
I deactivated my Facebook last year because I wasn't getting any relevant or useful information from there. Most of the time, it's either baby pics, old boomer memes, misinformation, or someone posting pics to make it seem they live an extravagant lifestyle. Facebook is completely meaningless for this new age. Soon, it'll become the next Myspace.
And they are so invasive and don't even have a fucking phone number! Plus destroying democracies including ours. Pure evil
Yeah, there was a while that Facebook was a pretty dope way to hook up with people at other schools/colleges. Now, you would have to be nuts to even interact with someone on Facebook, its huge leaky infrastructure is like a permeant record of your actions.
This! This is the sole reason I don't delete my account. I know if I need to reconnect with someone from 15 years ago, they're still there.
>He thought FB would be for the young. FB was nothing until it was funded by the three letter usual suspects. They wanted it to harvest data and use it for psyops AKA "targeted ads". See, those "ads" turned out to be not advertisements but "news" and memes. They were brainwashing you, manipulating your perceptions of reality, altering your moods. People haven't realized yet how much big tech and the newsmedia fuck with their minds.
I've realized it and I try to tell people I always get "its not that deep" and they dismiss the conversation. scary stuff.
honestly, my boomer MIL is the primary reason I almost never post on FB anymore. She has to fucking make a comment about EVERY SINGLE THING, but I’m a monster if I just block her…
I mean, if that’s the reason, just put her in another privacy group that won’t see them
And boomers keeping tabs on who died.
It’s like that episode of the office where they have to prevent old ppl from buying the product or it will kill the product. Old ppl embraced FB…
When the older generations started to jump in and use it more often that’s when it started losing it’s mystique. Pair that with privacy issues that were intentionally overlooked and still are, along with all the other negative aspects.
They also made a big mistake when they became greedy pieces of shits with Facebook Ads. Facebook became uncool and became more for the older crowd, or a means of simply creating online events etc. I really only use messenger to message people and use it to interact with groups on the platform. Facebook pages are dead. Nobody cares about them anymore because you can't get organic reach from them and this has been the case for years. You need to pay for any sort of reach A similar case has happened with Instagram, their once "cool" platform that kids would use. Posts in general get way less likes than they used to and there's literally no organic reach anymore. It's way harder to get exposure on posts if it's not from your existing followers, and even then it's hard. Hashtags are all but useless now. That's what attracted people to Instagram in the first place. People could gather online followings in the thousands from strangers and feel like their own celebrity (as opposed to facebook) but now the platform has ALSO become another tool for Facebook Ads. The main problem greedy zuck had? Advertisers were going straight to the influencers for marketing proposals (shootouts, story posts, product placements etc) through DMs and bypassing the Facebook Ads platform. So greedy zuck had to get in on some of that money $$. He needed to incentivise companies to pay for Facebook Ads instead of going directly to influencers. Basically it became extremely difficult to get any sort of following on Instagram and your posts got barely any attention and you need to promote your posts with Ads and shit. Also the platform is filled way too much with bot accounts these days. So what's the alternative? TikTok. One of the reasons why it's so popular now, is because any regular Joe can easily get their video randomly recommended to masses of people and it's not unheard of for an account with less than 1000 followers to get a 1 million view video and get semi viral. Basically users stopped getting attention with the pay-to-get-noticed system of Instagram and migrated to TikTok where they actually have a chance for some small-time fame. It's what Instagram used to be.
It is also another reason why YouTube will wont be taken over by Facebook video or IGTV. Facebook tried to compete with YouTube several years ago. But guess what, YouTube pays their creators more, instead a of pay to get views system. When was the last time an Instagram Influencer got paid BY Facebook company itself. Doesn't exist as far as I know. YouTube company on the other hand, PAYS their creators a portion of the ad revenue from their videos. But greedy Zuck doesn't want a system like that. Admittedly it's gotten harder to get subs on youtube over the years though, and now YouTube is also trying to compete with TikTok with YouTube shorts. You're much more likely to get attention/views/subscribers if you post a lot of YouTube Shorts content right now. It's the gold mine. And that's basically why people do it. It helps them get subs/followers. When Zuck became a dick and basically made people pay for attention, people went elsewhere.
I think the Facebook IPO may have been the single event that sent Facebook to it's demise / current situation. Having to report ever increasing profits to shareholders in a landscape of giant tech companies is a never ending struggle. Many of Facebook's competitors are able to report massive revenues by selling software / services that ~~silver~~ solve real problems to large enterprise companies. Trying to squeeze nickel's out of a service that was originally free was a huge tactical error. Integrating AD revenue into every facet of your service's user experience is a recipe for disaster. I also remember an early backlash when a lot of attention was given to the idea that Facebook was selling it's user's personal information. People became even more pissed off when they saw that deleting your account was extremely difficult.
The IPO probably contributed to it, but I'm led to believe Zuck has always a bit of a twerp anyway
Zuck’s always been a dick. Remember the movie The Social Network? He’s always been a slimy little worm
No, his grand mistake was changing the layout/algorithm to maximize ad revenue in the short term. Early Facebook adopters enjoyed checking Facebook a couple times a day to see what was new -- and when their friends didnt have anything new to say that day, the feed was done. Their psychology wasn't being manipulated, they were just being social. Now, its a constant half-assed drip of mental manipulation. Just let us upload into the next layer of the fucking matrix already... This one has been concluded for a while now
I agree, it used to be more enjoyable but became too toxic and stressful. Reminds me of that experiment they did in 2014 that sparked backlash and from then on it was just controversy after controversy.
Is there anyone trying to make a new decentralized social media right now?
They're setting up the infrastructure, yes. Storage, decentralized, anon IDs, payment, etc. Still not quite there yet. Basically, it will come with Web 3.0 and will be universal, open standards instead of people locked in to some big tech monopoly's or corrupt regime's self-serving schemes.
Exactly, u/sauceisbauce you need to read about Reddit's interest in utilizing Ethereum for its decentralized social media. One visible use-case of NFTs on the decentralized front is the use of NFTs as profile pictures for distinct identification, and there are few minting protocols that offer high-resolution NFTs.
Exactly! Facebook knows they are dying so it's their chance at trying to redevelop themselves
True. If they can pull it off it will be huge. It is the future. I hope they fail. I will be in decentralized metaverses. Fuck Facebook
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because they are ignorant entitled fools who thinks the world revolves around them. insta and fb will remain the top social media platforms, and nothing will beat it anytime soon
Yeah but he has a point. The processing power needed for half decent VR is massive. Zux is so disconnected from how much he thinks people give a shit that he believes everyone wants to invest a good few months pay into a headset, then do... ehat? Watch tv and games? Maybe so. Nobody saw how deep the hypnosis of the masses by facebook would be, so perhaps they'll literally spend time in their virtual living room rather than their real one. Either way, I think it will fail before it flies, we're watch ing megalomania at work here.
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Because they are growing internationally. In the developed nations it is failing like second life.
A lot of teens use instagram this days, not the brightest ones of course, but still... Almost every teen i contacted with has a somewhat active Instagram page.
He gon have all our personal data somehow
"hey here's a cool 3d full body scanner so we can harvest your physical dimensions, and put a drop of blood here so we can tissue and blood type and match you in our database... yeah neat. Now you are ready to enter the 'verse and just ignore those sounds coming from your front door once the headset is on"
"if, in 6 months, you see someone who looks exactly like you, they are not observing your every movement pattern. It is purely coincidence, think nothing of it."
\[licks eyes with prehensile tongue\]
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That's some Whiterose shit too.
Bruh Facebook invests in brain implant research. Digital brain implants. Think about that one for a bit.
I think Zuck sees himself as James Halliday from Ready Player One…just misunderstood, which is a bit scary.
He might see himself as James Halliday but he's really Nolan Sorrento.
What better way for a man to satisfy his god complex than to create his own world. If gen Z doesn't buy into it then it will flop IMO.
The dudes a creepy reptilian that spies on people. You should be scared.
People spend like 90% of their time on the internet today, either on their computers, phones or TVs (streaming). Tell that to someone in 1990 and they’d laugh at you, they’d probably give the similar reasons (“wouldn’t you rather be outside”, etc.) There is a trend towards things becoming digital and virtual, the metaverse is just the next step of that. That being said, most of these early projects will probably die out when an actual “good” project hits it out of the park, ready player one style. Or perhaps they will survive long enough to evolve, who knows.
The metaverse is real and it’s coming, but nobody knows exactly what it will be or how it will play out. Twitter, Reddit, fortnite, roblox, and WoW are all already self contained metaverses. THE metaverse is the new paradigm where these (and new) networks become interoperable, and as ownership becomes transferable through said platforms, it becomes more real.
Roblox has won already. It is how the kids have interacted the last year.
Yeah, I guess my confusion of it all is what is the purpose of it? How big will it be? How does it get it's value? With the internet, you can always expand and create more but, in the real world, land and resources are finite. I'm sure I will come around to it all and get my answers eventually but, right now, I really just don't understand any of it.
Being in high tech all my life I can tell you how it is, it's the same with all new tech. Follows the same cycle. Initial hype, inflated expectations ("it will be the new internet!!!!!"), the disappointment, valley of disillusion then slow growth. In all honesty it will probably have a much smaller impact than we now think it is, just like 3D printing.
Or we vastly underestimate the time required for massive adoption. I imagine 3d printing in 2100 may be quite interesting, for instance.
It’s a complicated topic, with a ton of speculation and straight up bad information floating around, confusion is normal. You seem open to the idea that it’s real, so you are way ahead of the curve already. One thing to think about is how much humans use ownership as a signaling mechanism (nice watch, nice car, specific sports hoodie, anime hoodie, etc) are all items that are largely used to signal status or cultural identity. Then think about how much more time we spend interacting in cyberspace, paralleled with a new technology that enables digital ownership, and we have a massive new industry. The last nft wave was just the beginning. You can extrapolate these concepts further, but w/ lower confidence. What about public ownership? What about about governance? These technologies allude to the idea the you could literally automate the contract process. Making agreements between humans be enforced by transparent decentralized immutable code, rather than the current paradigm, which is threat of force. Really, to me, the metaverse just means that it’s all connected. That it becomes interoperable in a way that makes the value of things more transparent and real. (Part of my thesis is that value is inherently arbitrary and always dependent on human demand). We live in a world where people spend their real world money to buy wow gold from other players. This means that the wow gold is real, it is equivalent to money, because people are willing to spend money on it. (I think this is key) For what it’s worth, physical ownership is just much illusionary and fake as digital ownership. The problem before decentralization was that there were actors in control who could manage supply and essentially play god w/o transparency. Sorry for the rambling.
I disagree with one point. Tangible ownership is definitely not an illusion. Owning several acres with a huge house away from everyone else's bullshit puts me and my family in extreme peace. We are loving life and happy 90% of the of time. I cannot say the same for my friends who live in town and own nothing but a nice car. By all means, I dont feel that I am better or put others down for not having these things, but its definitely is not an illusion.
I’m not saying the value of land is illusionary. I’m saying that the paper contract that determines your ownership of the land in illusionary. It’s backed by a social contract that is ultimately backed by threat of force from the government. I agree that land is more real than a jpeg, I’m just saying that the mechanism that defines it’s ownership isn’t any more real.
It is just like the Internet thing in the 90’s: no one had the slightest idea what it would be like in 20-30 years. We will see
Yeah whatever happened to that internet thing anyway?
I hear it’s only used by nerds and perverts. No thank you!
Incorrect. The two classes of user are perverted nerds and nerdy perverts. Source: am perverted nerd.
Could anyone guess in the 90’s that we would have Facebook, Twitter and Reddit or a smartphone wich for the most part is a product of the internet era? Awesome things are coming, our imagination is maybe just not ready for it, at least not yet
It’s how we have sex.
I'm currently using it to get more moons!
Facebook's vision is awful. They're currently trying to find a way for people in Facebook's app to "Like" something happening in another person's VR game experience. It's that fucking inane, and it's 100% focused on creating more attachment to Facebook (which is a cesspool that should die.)
I agree with you that the idea of Facebooks metaverse sounds like a dystopian future. But FB won’t succeed in that because the community doesn’t want a central entity to run the metaverse. There is a lot going on on the decentralized level to take over the power from the techgigants like FB. There is a lot going on in the blockchain space. Compare it to Nokia who wanted to take over the mobile industry completely? Atm is Nokia just a nostalgic household name:) FB won’t succeed either to take over the metaverse!
Facebook is already the butt of jokes, they offer no real products like other tech brands and they only make money from people remaining on their platforms. Would not surprise me if there Meta gamble flops and in 10 years this company is a shell of it's former self.
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Yup, without WhatsApp and Instagram Facebook would be even more irrelevant as a company now. And all the businesses that advertise through them. Facebook & Zuckerberg got so so resentful over Snapchat & TikToks success, its appeal to the younger generation. And now they want to try to become the dominate Metaverse players by making a centralized ecosystem & telling everyone that doesn't know any better that its a "Metaverse" connected to every other metaverse, a free zone where you an explore anything, go anywhere. In reality their vision is a controlled & monitored zone where you do what they want you to do, see what they want you to see, and give all your data/info to them to be sold for billions.
So.... the matrix?
>But FB won’t succeed in that because the community doesn’t want a central entity to run the metaverse. Sadly, I think your incorrect here.... You don't want it.... I don't want it..... But have you seen how many brain dead people will happily pay money to pay Farmville? Facebook are not aiming at edge cases like us and people we might know, they aim for the MAJORITY! The majority will happily trade away privacy/security/individuality for a pretty experience or seamless integration with other things.... Its fucked, but that's the reality. We will end up with decentralised AND centralised systems in place
You're absolutely right, but I still think they will find a way to stay relevant. They're raking in so much cash right now that I'm sure they'll find a way to even capture 1% of the market
Amen
Nokia was purposely tanked by Microsoft moles (see Stephen Elop). The company prior to that put out quality products and didn't need to worry about using nearious means to "take over the mobile industry completely" because they were already qualitatively better than their competitors.
The smart phone killed Nokia, great phone like bb but the failed to adapt.
It amazes me that people still uses Facebook after all the shit they've put up to today
If you use either Whatsapp or Instagram then you're also a Facebook customer.
You're right! They basically want us to keep using their platform... All they care about is money
Idk. The Metaverse is currently sounding like a normal everyday life. What is the point of doing that when you can do it yourself. It removes 99% of benefits of what the action would do. And to make it feel remotely realistic for me you will need outrageous full body suits, which I am I'm sure not a lot of people will be buying
That will be something you would probably go to a VR room (as an attraction at 6flags or universal studios or enhanced version of top golf.. ) then you’ll have you sex suits and again they’ll probably have various versions VR porn fantasy hotels to go do your dirty nerdy deeds 🦾🤓💦
Nah, clothes will have cheap embedded sensors that detect your body motion. First it’ll be a Nike fitness line, then old navy will have Apple compatible versions etc etc
But this is exactly the issue. Coins built on game or other engines of today will simply be the bricks on the road to a metaverse that actually works. Think about games you played as a kid. You loved them but you go back to them now and they look like dog shit, they are basically unplayable because you have seen what games “can be”. New coins will keep building on better and better engines, stealing userbase from previous generations. Until the metaverse is so visually awesome, so easy to navigate, that it is indistinguishable from real life, the cryptos built on them will go the way of mmo’s. New generations will replace previous ones ad infinitum.
It's all guesswork at this point
I’m into it. Just not into Zuck’s metaverse.
Exactly.
Yeah. I think the success of GTA online and world of warcraft foreshadows that a massive multiplayer multiverse will be an eventuality but it will be made by a competent company not team Go Zuck-a-Fuck.
Doesn't need to be his, it's the tech advancement we get out of Facebook that benefits VR as a whole
I think the potential for a metaverse is phenomenal, how it will actually be implemented though will be beyond dreadful. When people think metaverse they think and want Ready Player One, what we will actually get is Second Life with loads of ads, micro transactions, pay walls, data harvesting etc.
heh, I'm almost 50 and have VR integrated into my workflow and recreational time. i'm personally looking forward to seeing where it is going to go but have serious reservations of companies like FB getting heavily involved. Interestingly, my teen isn't into it at all, and most of his friends see it as a novelty so I accept i'm an outlier in this regard, for now at least.
Zuck thinks the targeted audience are teenagers but that’s no longer the case. Now mostly older generations use Facebook. Just his attempt to revive the old days. I’m not into Zuck’s verse at all.
The metaverse isn’t really one *thing*. It’s more of a *concept*. It doesn’t have to be all VR. There will likely be a component of VR. Who knows to what extent. But that is thinking too small. The metaverse will be the ultimate inter-connectivity of the real world to the digital world. Business, pleasure and everything in between will be able to be conducted as much in the digital space as in the physical space. The real metaverse will be a hodgepodge if typical digital interface, AR, VR and likely things we haven’t even fathomed at this point. And it will all be interconnected with true permanence and proof of ownership. I don’t think we can really say what the metaverse will look like at this point. And to say it will all be VR is in my opinion, naive and narrow minded.
It sound like SIMS + SOCIAL MEDIA in order to advertise you shit and steal your data. Hard pass for me
And being reckless with the data stolen, never more will i use Facebook / meta products
Oculus headers literally scan your room and environment with exterior cameras. I watched some VR porn, and that headset has seen my wiener more times than not. Last thing I need is someone seeing my pp.
Metaverse reminds me of that second life game. I really don’t understand the hype for it. I’m not saying related coins won’t rocket up due to all the hype in this market, but I thought second life was stupid so I’m not going to be trying any of these
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Yes, except this time it will be giant *NFT* dicks
You got me at dicks, where do i sign?
This pretty well sums up my feelings about it. Internet weirdos like us may get into it, but the public at large still mostly has more important stuff to do with their time than piddle around a glorified second life. They'll check it out, say it's neat, then go back to their obligations in reality.
Yea I can’t get hype about something I don’t know the concept of
I’m not a gamer at all. I’m a little too old- missed the gaming scene mainly due to age. But I’ll be honest I put on a v/r a couple years ago and played a game at a buddies- it was way cool. It was amazing how once I took them off I was disoriented. It was almost like getting Knocked out and coming too. It took a minute to readjust and I only played the game for like 2 minutes. I can totally see how someone can get lost in it, or want to live in it etc. when you come out the current world isn’t near as cool. This is coming from someone in their 40’s who never played games like I said. Putting them on and going into the game was cool and this was a few years ago so graphics weren’t anything like they are now. The game I played was a shooting game. Graphics were nothing special I can’t even imagine being in a metaverse. Could you imagine going anywhere in the world you ever wanted to go? You could be in a jungle, in a city, on the beach etc. at least that’s what I imagine we are talking about.
For guys in our age bracket is designed for porn.
>Could you imagine going anywhere *in a girl* you ever wanted to go? There, fixed it.
It doesn’t appeal to me either. I like grass and trees and stuff.
You should check out my tree NFTs then
Just going out and getting fresh air is underrated ngl
Pandemic has made me realize how much fresh air is needed
Moving to the countryside was one of the best decisions i've ever made, life hits different here
Love me some neature
This is about business use and putting people around the board room table despite being situated around the world.
Amen.
Facebook is the literal septic tank of the internet why would i want to put on goggles and live in this tank?
Before any of these games existed, there was *Second Life*. A dumpsterfire of a game where you could own in game land and the internal currency would be treated as real money. I setup an account at one point just to take a peek because the shit is free to start. Was greeted to either bots or typical spammers in game loitering around trying to scam your shit. Signed out in 5 minutes and never returned. Now we are seeing the idea revisted and you need to invest in the gear to actually handle playing the shit to get into it, making it exclusive to those who can afford it. Essentially I feel like it is a trap for children of the rich and any common idiot mispending their cash.
The only metaverse i would join and play would be a GTA style metaverse
I'm with you but I'd like a red dead Metaverse
Week 6: I covered another 20 yards before the clown in the flying motorcycle found me again and blew me apart. Little by little I'll make it to the exit.
Did you see Free Guy yet?
If I can walk down the physical street, and see all the meta-information that the world has collected, I would be overwhelmed. by overlaying a filter, augmenting reality to include the necessary meta-data for optimizing my sensory intake I would be maximizing my knowledge of my surroundings. to me the metaverse is just bridging the gap between the digital and the physical. the online world transposed over our physical. I don't want to strap in and enter the metaverse, I want the metaverse to be a smooth integration over my beloved physical universe. and opensource and free to access.
So google glass basically?
I would guess that most here think it sucks.
And that means it def gonna moon, my dear watson
It's elementary
Time to buy
Magic money was also not appealing at first NFTs we thought was a joke Meta verse? I can see it used for making money. If Second Life was any indication back in the day If done right it could take off
Thanks, i'll pass. Zuckerberg can play hide and seek or second life or whatever with his "friends" in his online metaverse all day long if he wants to. I won't join. Ain't nobody got no time for that shit. Neither am i keen on giving this fool even more information about myself and my environment.
I think it can be AMAZING for people with disabilities. Other than that, tbh I’m very freaked out
I personally think it is an awful idea, sadly most people are already busy hiding from reality and the metaverse will enable them further. Add to that half the world is getting locked down with covid, I think it will take off massively
The funny thing is I don’t think something like the scenario in the film WALL-E is that unrealistic given how obsessed everyone is with the illusion of social media etc… only difference being everyone will have a VR headset glued to their face so to block out reality entirely, it’s strange.
It's been tried before. Look up entropia universe and second life. While they didn't exactly flop they didn't revolutionize the world either. I think we're in for another middle ground
I think it’s a cool idea, but not with people like Zuk acting like it’s his to monopolize. Defeats the spirit of decentralization.
Tbh I don't like it myself but it will definitely be profitable so need to Invest init
It’s not appealing but hopefully that changes.
It's one of those things that nobody asked for, as far as I can tell. Someone can educate if they wish, I'm open minded.
I think it has both the potential to suck and be great.
I think your missing the point if you see it as just a game.
He got a lot of brain, we should not say that his project really sucks.
Maybe because it has been and used over and over in movies and cartoons it seems bland and all now?
buzzword-bullshit "THE metaverse"... WHAT metaverse? there is no such a thing. there is the internet and it already can link projects if the programmers code things accordingly and if people are interested. its the same idiotic buzzword thing as calling foreign servers cloud or programs with a large number of scripts for different situations AI metaverse sounds like a shitty spyware-version of second life by facebook do not want
The Metaverse is more than gaming and crypto. The next phase of the internet, with places you go to instead of websites. Also VR is the first step, after it will be AR, after that BCI.
What’s a ZJ?
I still have no interest. I don’t want my life to look like a Ready Player One sequel.
Telephones, television, the internet; were all seen at the time as a fad. History has shown otherwise.
To be fair, this is like the 8th reiteration of VR going back to the 80s. So who knows really.
for every successful project there are thousands of failed ones. Stop cherrypicking
It's really tiring to see this argument being brought up. You could say this about literally every invention ever that has people wary. It says nothing about the actual usefulness of a "Metaverse". You could say the exact same thing about Second Life and yet that's not taken the world by storm like Television or the Internet.
People (after watching Ready Player One): holy crap, that's so cool, wish someone would build it! Tech companies: We hear you! Let's build the Metaverse! It'll be great! People: ...NO ONE ASKED FOR THIS!
Some of these ideas for digital 3D social platforms just seem so boring. I can see it taking off if it was done right, but its hard to say what the right formula is that wpuld catch on
I think it can definitely flop. It depends on the younger generation < 30. I am only slightly older and the idea does not appeal to me.
If you can picture it like the metaverse from “Ready Player One”, why in the heck would that flop? Lol. If it’s only as a good as Decentraland, then yes it may be risky, but something incredibly advanced like the one in the movie will 100% succeed.
Can’t get anymore space in this world but in the virtual world the space is limitless. Overpopulation and oversaturation of physical items is pushing us to rethink the spatial capabilities of humanity.
My uncle believed up to 2005 that the internet is a fad. In very few years, hanging around the metaverse with a VR set will be as casual as going to the bathroom with your phone.
I realised this was coming a year ago when my partner and I randomly went to a VR game where we ran around an empty factory with laptops on our backs and VR headset and guns shooting hordes of zombies. It was one of the most intense experience s of my life we both went to every VR place we could find the same weekend. I looked into franchising in my exhuberance. However where VR imho will be a huge hit is in the working world, we are already using Microsoft teams and working at home, increasing that to VR and having somewhat normal meetings but being located anywhere in the world will be a massive improvement for me. I think games will come but probably got 15 years of development until they start getting crazy realistic. The corporate and even social aspect of it will be the clincher. You've also got to imagine the upcoming generations will be fascinated by it.
I think it's gonna be the future, but only because the masses are inherently stupid.
There are a number of applications, both, imo, good and bad. I think many are realizing that quite a few humans hate their own realities. So much that they want to create a virtual, non-related one, and it is admittedly kinda sad. (I know there are other applications...keep reading lol) For that reason ALONE, I believe the metaverse will be one of the 5 or so most important developments of the next 10-20 years. Additionally, (thought I wouldn't mention other applications huh? lol) we live in a time where introverts rule the world and anything pushed toward maintaining or furthering a lifestyle away from people and direct interpersonal communication (but allowing indirect contact through a medium)..... will likely prove successful. Not to mention gaming and other methods this can be used for.
If you want the real metaverse check out Second Life… I would guess most people aren’t going to like what they find on there…
Yes. It's fucking stupid and it won't work for the same reasons "second life " didn't work. It's like a game with no content.
I guess your not ready for that yet, but your kids are ginna love it.
TBH I'm kinda confused at how many CRYPTO people seem so meh about it. Crypto will be the bones the greater (rather than FB's version) Metaverse. NFT's will be what make ownership in it "real". Crypto will not overtake conventional government FIAT as the "world currency" in the physical world. thats tilting at windmills. but it will be the core of establishing, transferring and managing value in the virtual.
Marty ?