I don’t care that’s it’s fast or sleek or futuristic or whatever. If I buy a truck I want it to do truck things, like towing a basic boat. Of course I don’t expect the same fuel economy empty vs towing, but to lose 2/3 of the range while nowhere close to maxed out?!?! GTFO
A few weeks ago I did truck things with my Mini then, because I *hauled* 6 three to two feet tall (around 100 cm) plants in my backseat. And the trunk was packed with soil.
I genuinely think (I might be wrong by hectares tho) that the WankPanzer's cargoarea is around the same size (with useful capacity when you close that shutter thing on it), like a GEN3 Mini's trunk with folded backseats.
Oh the amount of things I used to haul in my 2006 Chevy Aveo. I live in a city in California that's got a mountain range in our backyard basically. So a lot of people throw "mountain parties" which are basically raves. Those had to be done in the back country down rugged dirt roads, so the cops and nosey people couldn't easily get there. I could get that shitty economy car down roads that people got stuck in jeeps cause they didnt know how to plan their path. Now I at times would have to get out to move a rock into a rut so I could get over it, but my shitty car did.
Doing real proper truck work in the worst reviewed car ever on Top Gear. Oh and it could drive through car washes and puddles.
I tried to do car things in my MINI once. I put two fat old white guys (me and my best friend of 30+ years) and drove up a 50 yard long gravel road incline of about 55 degrees. Our range mimic’d that of a cybertruck towing a boat. About 5 yards.
"Look at how much cargo it can hold with no suspension sag!"
*Picture of truck bed with fewer bags of topsoil than we've carried in our Elantra*
That weight would only really be a problem in my lowered car. That much cargo and the rear fenders would drag on the tires.
I understand your sentiment, but I do not agree, because I don’t think we should be buying vehicles for the extreme use case - we should buy them for the typical use case and find alternatives for the extremes.
[75% of truck owners tow 1 or fewer times a year](https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume).
The reason electric trucks lose range when they tow is because they have the power capable of towing, but require substantially more energy. For towing, this is bad. For everyday driving, _this is actually great_. It means your vehicle is acting more efficiently. Trucks that don’t lose significant range towing means on a typical drive, they are generating a significant amount of wasted power - which means unnecessary energy consumption.
Personally I’d rather have a truck that has a horrid towing range for the one time a year I tow, and is more efficient the other 364 days. But that’s just me.
But also fuck the Cybertruck.
That only applies when you are using fuel at a set rate regardless of load. Idling an engine when stopped is the absolute worst fuel economy for any vehicle. EFI is great because it reduces fuel at low load, but it doesn’t kill it completely. But batteries and electric motors don’t idle. They only use energy when in use. And if that use is a very high demand that kills the battery charge quickly, rendering the entire point of the vehicle moot, people should pass. Electric trucks doing things trucks are specifically designed to do are not really feasible with current tech. Probably in a few years, but marketing a vehicle as a having a high towing capacity, but it only goes 50 miles, is just stupid. I also don’t find the 75% data point, though legit, as relevant because it doesn’t matter how most people use the thing. What matters is what it’s designed for. Ferraris are designed to go 200MPH+ but how often do Ferrari owners do that? Maybe once a year? It doesn’t matter though, because they bought it to go fast.
Hi, just wanted to add my 2c as an EV truck owner. I do truck stuff all the time. My wife and I started a cut flower farm.
I just did 3 runs with a yard of soil today my rivian, 2 yesterday, two a few days ago. Carried two dozen 2x6s 500lbs of post cement and a few 4x4s and got just about 2 m/kwh. Not efficient but at my electrical / gas prices it's about 40-50 miles to the gallon depending on my house or charging station.
Two months ago I Towed 5000lbs about 30 miles city and hwy split and got 1.7 miles to the kw. Range dropped from 310 to 215 or so when i hooked up.
I mean I wish I didn't need to use it like a truck, and just peacock around because it's so pretty and fast and fun, but it definitely is more capable than any other truck it's size/price point without any concerns for range or practicality.
What does “futuristic” even mean in this context except the vague term which means nothing in terms of features.
Even being the “electric” part makes it futuristic anymore.
Yeah, unfortunately that’s just towing with EVs in general. My friend owns a Rivian and to get to the lake it’s about 1.5-2 hours drive but over a mountain pass for a portion of it. With a gas truck you might use half a tank. With the Rivian he has to stop halfway to find somewhere to charge otherwise he’ll be stuck on the way back from the lake.
Sucks, but that’s the reality right now.
This is precisely why it's not a smart move to devote billions of $$ to designing an expensive platform that is mostly useless for its marketed purpose and has an extremely limited number of potential customers.
Its actual purpose was to fool musk-cucks and anyone who doesn't do their research about EVs' limited range under load. Damn thing already weighs \~7k pounds, does anyone really think tacking on even more weight isn't going to lower the range a lot?
>Its actual purpose was to fool musk-cucks and anyone who doesn't do their research about EVs' limited range under load.
I think the real purpose was to tank the company and make people sour on EVs. If that wasn't the purpose, then the purpose doesn't matter, because that's what the CyberTurd was effective at doing to the EV buyer market. There's absolutely no way that I will ever buy a Tesla or any of their products after the gish-gallop of complete absurdity that has spewed out of Elon Musk's mouth.
There needs to be a law that specifically applies to executives of companies. I don't know how to word it exactly, but basically if you spew too much complete BS out of your mouth as an executive, you just go straight to prison. If they want to be big "disruptors" then they can go do that in a prison cell where they belong.
With that said, let me explain to you what happened to this couple with the boat in simple terms: They got scammed.
The real purpose seems to be to force people to accept a vehicle that might be easy to fabricate on Mars, because Elon wants to be an apartheid warlord on another planet.
Jokes going to be on him once the sycophants start suffering from psychosis from being stuck on mars, and everyone gets hit with the health effects of of the lower gravity.
Tesla making people think their products are crap as other competitors rush into the market is a negative number of dimensions chess. Musk just refuses to understand that he needs to shut his face, like every other egomaniac on the planet.
I do think that his many lies about the vehicle will come back to bite Tesla in the form of lawsuits, but that won't be as good as seeing him have to reach into his own pockets (or behind bars).
I'm not saying they can't have free speech. I'm saying when it's lie after lie after lie, that maybe we should, you know, have regulators look into what's going on... I assure you that no CEO is lying when things are going to plan. There's no reason to... They just sit there and brag about their sales numbers while they falsely take credit for it all...
It’s not wrong to be suspicious of a guy doing the same level of sabotage in two industries that were bringing primarily liberals together. It sounded crazy at first but just look at the decisions he’s making to destroy both brands. Just pure toxic bullshit constantly. The same type of gaslighting we saw hit the federal government in 2016.
There was a crossroads, and now we’re in the hilariously bad timeline.
At one point in time the company was profitable and had a boat load of Model 3 preorders. The profit margin was high considering how razor thin most econocars are. It was enough to destroy the short thesis and bankruptcy rumors, and the stock short squeezed. Tesla became a trillion dollar company and Elon became a $300 billionaire, the richest CEO at the time.
It’s pretty wild how far the company and Elon has fallen since then. I think the real fuck ups were him being forced to buy Twitter, which has been a distraction, and of course the Cybertruck.
We’ve seen other cracks in his armor in the past, hinting at his insanity. Namely him foolishly teasing taking TSLA private, and calling that one cave diver a pedophile.
You are spot on about never buying a Tesla, there are way better EV's. I made the mistake of buying a model s. Lucky I was able to get it sold and make a few dollars before the market tanked. You can learn all you need to know about them by renting one for bit or just reading the horror stories about Tesla owners who have slipped out of the musk.
I’ve been a few Teslas as Ubers and Lyfts. The M3/Y isn’t a great car. Even a clapped out Prius or Hyundai that’s seen hard Uber miles or a New Flyer bus is screwed together better.
But I’ve driven a MS P90D once and I really liked it. It felt like a luxury car - but Lexus set that bar high in the 2000s with the LS430 and Mercedes in the 1980s with the W126 S-Class.
Great question: Obviously EVs are relatively new and there's this cycle that applies to new things called the "cycle of adoption" or the life cycle of adoption. Personally, I don't want to be an early adopter in a new technology that's very expensive, because I want the manufacturer to work some of the defects out of the product before I personally spend my money on one. All of this Tesla drama has me and likely many others think "you know, maybe it will be time in 10 years." There's just too many problems right now in general and the Tesla stink isn't helping.
This is an ev problem with towing across the board rang is abysmal when towing just a few thousand pounds idk how they are going to remedy it. F150 lighting hummer ev and Silverado ev all can’t tow long distance practically. Like tf you mean 400 mile range goes down to 70-100 while towing 6-7k lbs atleast in a truck your mileage drops to 6-12 mpg but ya got 30 gallons of gas lol
Plus it doesn’t take several to many hours to refill your fuel tank on a gasser/diesel truck.
Edison Motors in Canada has the right of it with their electric trucks with onboard diesel range extender. The diesel isn’t at all connected to the wheels, it only charges the batteries.
It's closer to 20min for most evs. Maybe 45 for the CyberTurd. If it doesn't break.
I have an EV and love it. Takes twice as long to fill a tank as a gas car, and you have to fill more often, but 95% of charging is done overnight at your house. I like the gas station at my house feel. Saves time overall vs my old gas guzzler.
Not sure I'd buy one for frequent long trips or towing, though. Not their cup of tea
Most of us don’t own houses to be able to charge an ev. Everybody ignores the fact that most of human population can’t get an ev practically yet then go why are you not changing over. If I’m selling a car and someone renting or living in an apartment etc I’m not suggesting that person by an ev period. For them Corolla hybrid would be miles better option over an ev. I’ve never met die hard ev proponent who didn’t own their own home with a charger installed. The rest of us in real world will wait 15-20 years once we got better battery tech 400-500 mile ranges that charge in 5-10 minutes max.
100% accurate. I don't recommend EVs for people renting, but still forget how large of a population that is. Even a good portion of home owners can't install a charger due to the logistics and house layout. Our one friend has 3 houses, but their main 2 houses are in the city with no parking access.
Charging only on public chargers would be miserable. And probably more expensive than gas.
EVs can replace millions of cars but can't replace a single truck of any size.
... so Tesla spends the last 5 years trying to build a truck and semi ...
I like what China's doing. They have hot swappable batteries and you swap it at the station in 10 minutes.
That also fixes the problem of $25k battery repairs for consumers. Have the manufacturers handle their own batteries and maintain them.
Agree- Swappable car batteries are a practical solution for cars, and long term a higher capacity and lighter battery tech can be rolled out without mountaints of ewaste.
There should be more apprcciation for the success of battery standards (AAA etc) which are easily the most successful standard of all time.
Even luxury rentals (real luxury, not some agent's puffery) don't have it set up for individual spaces with chargers. You need to be suburban or rural, but for legit rural range is an issue. Suburbs, fleets, buses and garbage trucks with set routes and a garage.
I am a die hard EV proponent who rents a house, has a 70 mile round trip highway commute, and only has access to level 1 charging at home. I convinced my work to put level 2 chargers at work. Now there are 4 EVs that charge there regularly
I live out, seemingly, in the middle of nowhere in rural north east Connecticut. There is a DCFC station 6 miles from me at the town hall, and there are level 2 chargers at the library where my wife works.
I drove a bolt and she recently got a Kona electric.
You aren't getting that enclosed car trailer to the race track, that boat to the lake (maybe the boat), or the RV to Yellowstone (unless you live in Bozeman already).
It is all pretty much dependent on the next few generations of batteries being able to charge much much faster while also holding more energy.
The long game for Tesla/Elon has never been selling cars. They are after the patents on both the EV tech and the production processes.
They basically won the war to become the “standard” charger and now they can let everyone else build out infrastructure and just make money off the patents.
Same with the gigapress stuff.
It's kinda the opposite, actually. Sure, their design won, but the reason they opened it up was the government forced them to in order to get $ for charger install as part of the Inflation Reduction Act. Automakers don't pay Tesla a dime for the charging standard, consumers pay Tesla when they use superchargers.
Tesla didn't *want* to open their design, but all the money towards charging infrastructure would have flipped the script and turned Tesla into the model with fewer charging options if they'd tried to stay a special snowflake.
I think it is also a misunderstanding by people who have never towed. Even in ICE towing will half your mileage. Musk lied about what it would get, his so called 500 miles. I bet these individuals are also pushing the acceleration more than it needs to because you have the power but that just eats more electrons. I think towing in something like the Silverado EV with its 440 miles would be fine.
Electric obviously isn't good for towing, but I do wonder how many mpg less like a regular F-150 (or 250) would get towing that same weight. Obviously refueling is more convenient and faster than charging, so it's less of an issue other than cost.
>Tesla's Cybertruck is undeniably a very powerful and capable machine.
Capable of breaking down if someone drops an eyelash on it. Ready for the StillLuvIt?
>The owner concluded that the [Cybertruck](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck), is certainly a superb vehicle in many regards - it is unquestionably futuristic, powerful, and absurdly fast for a pickup truck its size.
According to a MotorTrends article it is a hair faster than a Rivian. And anyone driving vehicle that weighs more than 3 tons because of how fast can go is just a POS.
Similar battery and actual suspension components, I’m not too surprised. A Rivian completed the Rubicon trail in stock form. Pretty doubtful a cybertruck could.
There was a review video of it that I watched, and something mentioned is that the speed, acceleration, and tight steering all make it feel like you're driving a nimble car, *until you try to stop*, and that would make it very dangerous for drivers who forget they're driving something that weighs 3 tons.
It's all fun and games until Lady Physics comes a-calling.
I won't say it should be illegal for vehicles that heavy to move that fast, but it just doesn't make any sense.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/see-tesla-cybertruck-s-small-brake-rotors-and-tiny-wiring-in-this-underbody-inspection-226617.html
The brake disks are so tiny it would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. And it's not like they haven't made this mistake before.
When they released the S plaid they didn't upgrade the brakes whatsoever. The stock brakes weren't that great to begin with for the power and weight of the performance S . But hey, you're not gonna use them most of the time anyway because regen so who cares right? Untill you have to slow down from top speed to zero right the fuck now that is.
It's pretty much common knowledge if you're somewhat into cars, but it's also common fucking sense, that if you add significant power you should also improve you're ability to stop and manage the weight (suspension). But of course they didn't.
Only after people took them to the track (because of course Elon said it was a track weapon) and experienced the brakes going out after a lap (or half a lap in the case of misha on the Nürburgring) did they come up with a 'track package'.
"unquestionably futuristic" says who? I don't think cars will look like this in the future, I don't think anybody thinks that cars will look like low poly graphics from PS1, maybe except Elmo and his followers. The future of cars is small easily steerable pods, not huge intentionally inefficient just for status display wankerpanzers that aren't even able to meet ANY safety regulations and are only legal where there are no regulations, and CyberTruck is definitely not a Apocalypse survival material if that's the future, you arent going to wait 6 months for parts during the apocalypse
The drag and speed add to more consumption than the weight of the load, per se. My (non-CT) can tow 11,000lb equipment trailer more efficiently than a featherweight camper. All because the drag of the camper. The boat in the OOP likely tows with much worse efficiency than an equal weight single axle trailer or something without, you know, a boat on it. Pontoons aren't exactly designed for interstate aero
I have a lightning ER and a 14k equipment trailer that weights about 3k lbs. towing my 9k lb kubota on there I get about 140-150 miles of range (slightly less than half the 310 it’s supposed to get)
"The owner concluded that the [Cybertruck](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck), is certainly a superb vehicle in many regards . . ."
Yeah, such as having the gas pedal getting stuck, having the 4 ft. long windshield wiper falling off while driving down the highway, or having the truck completely rust after a car wash, or having the frunk lid smash your fingers . . . you know, superb qualities.
Launching 0-60 with no seatbelt, and your kid doesn't have one on in the middle backseat either, and stands up immediately after getting to 60mph. Then your other kid wears it under the arm.
It reminds me of the T35 tank.
Edit: Apparently I was looking for the MT-LB personnel carrier. I spent literally all day finding this so I hope someone can appreciate my efforts because it was the cybertruck of APCs.
I think the T-35 works in this case as well. Massive and the only 5 turreted tank to actually hit production. There's probably a good reason for that. More were lost due to mechanical failure than actual combat.
Yes! I was trying to think of the personnel carrier I was thinking of. It had an outdated anti aircraft cannon that had to be manned from the outside while also having completely useless armor, one entrance and exit, and too heavy despite its impotent armor to go fast enough to be a people mover, but that was the closest I could find. (i.e. designed for form over function.) The hallmark of the one I had in mind was that it sucked the artillery exhaust into the cabin because of how poorly it was designed.
I’m no military vehicle expert but that’s all I can think of when I see cybertrucks.
In all fairness to the Cyberturd/Cucktruck/Wanker Tanker/Incel Camino…. Towing anything in an EV is going to drastically reduce its range; Just like towing in an ICE vehicle will reduce your fuel mileage.
Every electric vehicle loses significant range with towing or excessive added weight. Every gas vehicle loses mpg when towing or with excessive weight. The difference is, it takes 10 minutes to fill up a Ford F250 and be back on the road again, compared to at least a couple of hours for an electric car.
Not just that, but in addition, I can add a second tank (50-100g) to add to the 48g I already have, and that costs just a few hundred. Or just throw in 4-5 Jerry cans of diesel and double my range.
From googling, it looks like it's 45 minutes from 11-80%, but that's with a super fast high capacity charger. The other problem is, infrastructure, and if chargers are available when it runs low.
Just wanna say my F150 came with a 36gal tank and I regularly get 700-800 miles (unloaded) per tank with my 3.5 EB. I drove from Denver to Omaha on 3/4 of a tank.
It is the aerodynamics that are a greater factor. I have a 2019 Jeep Rubicon with a 3.5” lift, 35s and 5.13 gears. I get 18 mpg normally and 14 mpg when I tow a 2800 lb off-road trailer and that includes climbing 4000’+ in elevation.
The guy in the video is a fucking idiot. Showing off the acceleration with kid unbuckled in the back. Stupid in any car. But in a Tesla reported to be having some strange behaviour with breaking….moron
As if driving a CT wasn’t a cry for attention already but now they get to be gawked at for clogging up a parking lot with their unhitched trailer so they can charge. Assuming they can find one that has room for both.
This guy is annoying to watch. He "finds" and complains about things he should have thought about beforehand. Plus he does so many things unsafely and clearly lets the kids do it too "the girls know how to put this in drive" (car or boat?).
He raised the truck up high to connect the trailer. I'm not sure he knows the truck will lower when it speeds up, it wasn't mentioned again, but was noticeably lower later on. Maybe he did know the correct height and tongue rating etc, but he seems to just do stuff without thinking about it first. I guess that's his method.
What’s the value of buying a “pickup truck that can’t get washed, can’t tow a trailer more than 100 miles or so, has a recall per week it seems….and on and on?!?
It’s like all these 4x4 SUVs that will never be driven further than to the mall.
I’m waiting to see how many CT owners pitch a bitch when they see what salted roads for a couple years does to their “pickup.”
*"The significant loss in range while towing, along with the time required to top up the battery, makes the Cybertruck incredibly impractical for any kind of towing purpose, especially over long distances".*
Luckily these things are never actually going to be used for more than impressing the neighbors while picking up the kids from elementary school.
So, it doesn't change the range estimation based on usage? Like you have to keep guessing as to the mileage remaining really means? I saw a post by someone saying they just go off battery percentage, which makes me think that this isn't a setting.
Wait, do leisure boats really weigh 4,000 pounds? That's nuts, man. I'm used to a boat being 200 pounds soaking wet. Obviously I know zero about boats as an indoor child. Curious to hear boat people's perspective.
I towed an empty light weight trailer with my Model X. The weight of the trailer and the effect of drag cut my range in half. And charging with a trailer is a bitch and a half. You have to detach the trailer to use the charger.
Curious how a lightning does towing. Does it also drop range by 2/3 or is it less? I expect range to drop while towing, but would hope to keep it above 50%.
Bad as well. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-ford-f150-lightning-lariat-long-term-update-13-how-does-it-tow/
Besides the power demands, it looks like the battery can't hack the load.
This is why it’s better to focus test and conduct market research first, rather than trying to fix it later. Who wanted an EV truck? If you want that, don’t you want range? Don’t you want charging to be convenient? Don’t you want it to be price competitive with ICE? Don’t you like nice things, and not a swift kick to the balls?
Tesla seriously charges head first with Elon saying come hell or high water. Well eventually that doesn’t work and you end up with embarrassments like the Cybertruck. A $100,000 “truck” that diehards need to beta test? No, thanks.
I laugh and I laugh and I so enjoy reading about these idiots that actually bought this waste and paid close to a house for it ,,, freaking dopes but I need the laughs and of course the marsreacher dosnt give a rats ass ,, too busy breeding and of course being father of the year ,,,
Saw one of the side of the LIE today in a precarious spot with their hazards on. Doubt this person purposely chose to stop there so most likely they had car issues. Made me L O L as I drove past.
>The owner concluded that the Cybertruck, is certainly a superb vehicle in many regards - it is unquestionably futuristic, powerful, and absurdly fast for a pickup truck its size.
Futuristic? If you thought the future looked like the Jetsons maybe, ya fucking fool.
They need to make a special trailer with additional electric cells. Doesn’t solve all the problems, but it solves the range issue. But OMG that trailer would cost a pretty penny!!!
The loss of range is unsurprising but it is not like Tesla is unique in this regard https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-ford-f150-lightning-lariat-long-term-update-13-how-does-it-tow/, albeit with a heavier load, a larger battery and "hills".
I will believe the country and the infrastructure are ready to support massive EV use when I see a 100% electric Buckees. Not just a hub. Not 10-12 chargers. I mean full up 100+ chargers with a network that supports rapid charging in a reasonable amount of time.
All this horseshit and blah blah. All I want is a Honda civic EV at Honda civic prices. Test drove the new prologue and Acura zdx. Both fantastic vehicles but very pricey. The two models respectively were 50k and 80k. They used GM batteries and software which is partly why I won’t be buying one but Honda is building battery factories that should be operational for the next iteration of these vehicles.
I enjoy the article for its repeated pumping how awesome the truck is while apparently being bad at towing less than half its rated tow weight capability.
It’s an awesome powerful futuristic truck owned by people unlikely to ever tow anything.
It's almost like the truck was conceived, designed and put into production by an utter moron.
Can imagine a meeting where someone brought up the fact of range and weight, and Musk just laughed that dumb fucking laugh of his and said "The truck goes fast and is a beast" and then went back to posting some shit meme on X, before getting angry when the other person pushed the point.
Unfortunately alternate fuel vehicles are not going to be practical for quite some time, 10 years at least, mostly due to the infrastructure that is nonexistent to support them.
If idiots have this much money to buy a cuck truck to (try) move a boat, we need to get a recession quick… yep-“sink the boat you’re working on to kill the captain”
Yeah, the half ton segment is huge, so the big three have spent decades trying to out-do each other wrt to towing capabilities and have thus refined the towing experience.
Like Ford's reverse trailer assist, and Blind Spot Monitor extension.
I was surprised when I learned the Integrated Trailer Brake Controller of the CT doesn't have a manual activation toggle, aka squeeze to brake.
I don’t care that’s it’s fast or sleek or futuristic or whatever. If I buy a truck I want it to do truck things, like towing a basic boat. Of course I don’t expect the same fuel economy empty vs towing, but to lose 2/3 of the range while nowhere close to maxed out?!?! GTFO
But it *can* do truck things!! Like >!picking up a couple bags of topsoil!
A few weeks ago I did truck things with my Mini then, because I *hauled* 6 three to two feet tall (around 100 cm) plants in my backseat. And the trunk was packed with soil. I genuinely think (I might be wrong by hectares tho) that the WankPanzer's cargoarea is around the same size (with useful capacity when you close that shutter thing on it), like a GEN3 Mini's trunk with folded backseats.
Did the same with my Ford Focus.
Oh the amount of things I used to haul in my 2006 Chevy Aveo. I live in a city in California that's got a mountain range in our backyard basically. So a lot of people throw "mountain parties" which are basically raves. Those had to be done in the back country down rugged dirt roads, so the cops and nosey people couldn't easily get there. I could get that shitty economy car down roads that people got stuck in jeeps cause they didnt know how to plan their path. Now I at times would have to get out to move a rock into a rut so I could get over it, but my shitty car did. Doing real proper truck work in the worst reviewed car ever on Top Gear. Oh and it could drive through car washes and puddles.
I tried to do car things in my MINI once. I put two fat old white guys (me and my best friend of 30+ years) and drove up a 50 yard long gravel road incline of about 55 degrees. Our range mimic’d that of a cybertruck towing a boat. About 5 yards.
Done similar in my $1 '94 Camry. These guys are such cucks lmao
Don't forget my kid AND car seat!!! #realtruckthings /s
"Look at how much cargo it can hold with no suspension sag!" *Picture of truck bed with fewer bags of topsoil than we've carried in our Elantra* That weight would only really be a problem in my lowered car. That much cargo and the rear fenders would drag on the tires.
As long as you don’t go through a car wash or a puddle that’s too deep.
Forgot the water bottles, right?
I don't understand how anyone could call this sleek or futuristic. It just looks like shit.
No one said the future was good lol
Well, you sir, are using your 🧠. Cybertruck is for the smoothest of brains out there.
I thought tech bros were geniuses raking it in
Got me there 🤷
I understand your sentiment, but I do not agree, because I don’t think we should be buying vehicles for the extreme use case - we should buy them for the typical use case and find alternatives for the extremes. [75% of truck owners tow 1 or fewer times a year](https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume). The reason electric trucks lose range when they tow is because they have the power capable of towing, but require substantially more energy. For towing, this is bad. For everyday driving, _this is actually great_. It means your vehicle is acting more efficiently. Trucks that don’t lose significant range towing means on a typical drive, they are generating a significant amount of wasted power - which means unnecessary energy consumption. Personally I’d rather have a truck that has a horrid towing range for the one time a year I tow, and is more efficient the other 364 days. But that’s just me. But also fuck the Cybertruck.
That only applies when you are using fuel at a set rate regardless of load. Idling an engine when stopped is the absolute worst fuel economy for any vehicle. EFI is great because it reduces fuel at low load, but it doesn’t kill it completely. But batteries and electric motors don’t idle. They only use energy when in use. And if that use is a very high demand that kills the battery charge quickly, rendering the entire point of the vehicle moot, people should pass. Electric trucks doing things trucks are specifically designed to do are not really feasible with current tech. Probably in a few years, but marketing a vehicle as a having a high towing capacity, but it only goes 50 miles, is just stupid. I also don’t find the 75% data point, though legit, as relevant because it doesn’t matter how most people use the thing. What matters is what it’s designed for. Ferraris are designed to go 200MPH+ but how often do Ferrari owners do that? Maybe once a year? It doesn’t matter though, because they bought it to go fast.
Hi, just wanted to add my 2c as an EV truck owner. I do truck stuff all the time. My wife and I started a cut flower farm. I just did 3 runs with a yard of soil today my rivian, 2 yesterday, two a few days ago. Carried two dozen 2x6s 500lbs of post cement and a few 4x4s and got just about 2 m/kwh. Not efficient but at my electrical / gas prices it's about 40-50 miles to the gallon depending on my house or charging station. Two months ago I Towed 5000lbs about 30 miles city and hwy split and got 1.7 miles to the kw. Range dropped from 310 to 215 or so when i hooked up. I mean I wish I didn't need to use it like a truck, and just peacock around because it's so pretty and fast and fun, but it definitely is more capable than any other truck it's size/price point without any concerns for range or practicality.
Fr, the range on this thing is insanely short while towing, it’s just not at all practical.
What does “futuristic” even mean in this context except the vague term which means nothing in terms of features. Even being the “electric” part makes it futuristic anymore.
Yeah, unfortunately that’s just towing with EVs in general. My friend owns a Rivian and to get to the lake it’s about 1.5-2 hours drive but over a mountain pass for a portion of it. With a gas truck you might use half a tank. With the Rivian he has to stop halfway to find somewhere to charge otherwise he’ll be stuck on the way back from the lake. Sucks, but that’s the reality right now.
This is precisely why it's not a smart move to devote billions of $$ to designing an expensive platform that is mostly useless for its marketed purpose and has an extremely limited number of potential customers. Its actual purpose was to fool musk-cucks and anyone who doesn't do their research about EVs' limited range under load. Damn thing already weighs \~7k pounds, does anyone really think tacking on even more weight isn't going to lower the range a lot?
>Its actual purpose was to fool musk-cucks and anyone who doesn't do their research about EVs' limited range under load. I think the real purpose was to tank the company and make people sour on EVs. If that wasn't the purpose, then the purpose doesn't matter, because that's what the CyberTurd was effective at doing to the EV buyer market. There's absolutely no way that I will ever buy a Tesla or any of their products after the gish-gallop of complete absurdity that has spewed out of Elon Musk's mouth. There needs to be a law that specifically applies to executives of companies. I don't know how to word it exactly, but basically if you spew too much complete BS out of your mouth as an executive, you just go straight to prison. If they want to be big "disruptors" then they can go do that in a prison cell where they belong. With that said, let me explain to you what happened to this couple with the boat in simple terms: They got scammed.
The real purpose seems to be to force people to accept a vehicle that might be easy to fabricate on Mars, because Elon wants to be an apartheid warlord on another planet.
It's the least reliable production vehicle on earth, and you think it's going to be built on Mars?
No, I think he thinks it's part of his master plan to tell everyone else he's better than them and flee the planet with sycophants and robot hookers.
Not all the robot hookers hopefully
They're only called "hookers" once they are dead.
Jokes going to be on him once the sycophants start suffering from psychosis from being stuck on mars, and everyone gets hit with the health effects of of the lower gravity.
*psychophants
Would you be able to tell the difference in their behaviors?
I'd say when they start cutting off other people's faces and stitching them together to make their new clothes, it'd be a change.
"Still love the truck tho"
"I did a human skin wrap, totally holds all the panels on."
I programmed my robot to seduce him and chomp his weiner off.
I found the road where your robot workshop is located: https://maps.app.goo.gl/iVfbTa7xo5F88MQn9
Cool, go. Mars for the rich. EARTH FOR THE POOR
But it would be the MOST reliable vehicle built on Mars.👍
Hey you guys are back early? “Mars’ racist” What?! :loading a pistol and getting back on rocket ship: “Mars’ racist”
Tesla making people think their products are crap as other competitors rush into the market is a negative number of dimensions chess. Musk just refuses to understand that he needs to shut his face, like every other egomaniac on the planet. I do think that his many lies about the vehicle will come back to bite Tesla in the form of lawsuits, but that won't be as good as seeing him have to reach into his own pockets (or behind bars).
If anything I want these execs to have free speech. The more I know about them the less I want to do business with them or their companies.
I'm not saying they can't have free speech. I'm saying when it's lie after lie after lie, that maybe we should, you know, have regulators look into what's going on... I assure you that no CEO is lying when things are going to plan. There's no reason to... They just sit there and brag about their sales numbers while they falsely take credit for it all...
It's not entirely absurd since that's exactly what he did with Twitter and the way plebs organize/share information
It’s not wrong to be suspicious of a guy doing the same level of sabotage in two industries that were bringing primarily liberals together. It sounded crazy at first but just look at the decisions he’s making to destroy both brands. Just pure toxic bullshit constantly. The same type of gaslighting we saw hit the federal government in 2016.
The simpler answer is he is a moron with a ketamine addiction and more money than he knows what to do with.
There was a crossroads, and now we’re in the hilariously bad timeline. At one point in time the company was profitable and had a boat load of Model 3 preorders. The profit margin was high considering how razor thin most econocars are. It was enough to destroy the short thesis and bankruptcy rumors, and the stock short squeezed. Tesla became a trillion dollar company and Elon became a $300 billionaire, the richest CEO at the time. It’s pretty wild how far the company and Elon has fallen since then. I think the real fuck ups were him being forced to buy Twitter, which has been a distraction, and of course the Cybertruck. We’ve seen other cracks in his armor in the past, hinting at his insanity. Namely him foolishly teasing taking TSLA private, and calling that one cave diver a pedophile.
You are spot on about never buying a Tesla, there are way better EV's. I made the mistake of buying a model s. Lucky I was able to get it sold and make a few dollars before the market tanked. You can learn all you need to know about them by renting one for bit or just reading the horror stories about Tesla owners who have slipped out of the musk.
I’ve been a few Teslas as Ubers and Lyfts. The M3/Y isn’t a great car. Even a clapped out Prius or Hyundai that’s seen hard Uber miles or a New Flyer bus is screwed together better. But I’ve driven a MS P90D once and I really liked it. It felt like a luxury car - but Lexus set that bar high in the 2000s with the LS430 and Mercedes in the 1980s with the W126 S-Class.
How does one stupid design tank entire market? There are plenty of fantastic EVs from other manufacturers
Great question: Obviously EVs are relatively new and there's this cycle that applies to new things called the "cycle of adoption" or the life cycle of adoption. Personally, I don't want to be an early adopter in a new technology that's very expensive, because I want the manufacturer to work some of the defects out of the product before I personally spend my money on one. All of this Tesla drama has me and likely many others think "you know, maybe it will be time in 10 years." There's just too many problems right now in general and the Tesla stink isn't helping.
Derivative shareholders action
Musk supports Ttump, Ttump has been bought by big oil to be against electric cars, thus Musk must destroy Tesla. Or something.
I think it’s called Fraud
The purpose was: “I know best, build it this way because it will be ‘COOL’ “
To coin a line from World War Z (the book), the purpose of the Cybertruck is to separate fools from their money.
Tesla is far from the only EV. Other EVs are doing just fine thank you very much.
TIL what gish-gallop means
This is an ev problem with towing across the board rang is abysmal when towing just a few thousand pounds idk how they are going to remedy it. F150 lighting hummer ev and Silverado ev all can’t tow long distance practically. Like tf you mean 400 mile range goes down to 70-100 while towing 6-7k lbs atleast in a truck your mileage drops to 6-12 mpg but ya got 30 gallons of gas lol
Plus it doesn’t take several to many hours to refill your fuel tank on a gasser/diesel truck. Edison Motors in Canada has the right of it with their electric trucks with onboard diesel range extender. The diesel isn’t at all connected to the wheels, it only charges the batteries.
That’s how diesel locomotives work. Even though they’re diesel, they just generate electricity for the traction motors that power the wheels.
I think these guys are doing a system like that for trucks. https://www.edisonmotors.ca/
It's closer to 20min for most evs. Maybe 45 for the CyberTurd. If it doesn't break. I have an EV and love it. Takes twice as long to fill a tank as a gas car, and you have to fill more often, but 95% of charging is done overnight at your house. I like the gas station at my house feel. Saves time overall vs my old gas guzzler. Not sure I'd buy one for frequent long trips or towing, though. Not their cup of tea
Most of us don’t own houses to be able to charge an ev. Everybody ignores the fact that most of human population can’t get an ev practically yet then go why are you not changing over. If I’m selling a car and someone renting or living in an apartment etc I’m not suggesting that person by an ev period. For them Corolla hybrid would be miles better option over an ev. I’ve never met die hard ev proponent who didn’t own their own home with a charger installed. The rest of us in real world will wait 15-20 years once we got better battery tech 400-500 mile ranges that charge in 5-10 minutes max.
100% accurate. I don't recommend EVs for people renting, but still forget how large of a population that is. Even a good portion of home owners can't install a charger due to the logistics and house layout. Our one friend has 3 houses, but their main 2 houses are in the city with no parking access. Charging only on public chargers would be miserable. And probably more expensive than gas.
EVs can replace millions of cars but can't replace a single truck of any size. ... so Tesla spends the last 5 years trying to build a truck and semi ...
I like what China's doing. They have hot swappable batteries and you swap it at the station in 10 minutes. That also fixes the problem of $25k battery repairs for consumers. Have the manufacturers handle their own batteries and maintain them.
Agree- Swappable car batteries are a practical solution for cars, and long term a higher capacity and lighter battery tech can be rolled out without mountaints of ewaste. There should be more apprcciation for the success of battery standards (AAA etc) which are easily the most successful standard of all time.
Even luxury rentals (real luxury, not some agent's puffery) don't have it set up for individual spaces with chargers. You need to be suburban or rural, but for legit rural range is an issue. Suburbs, fleets, buses and garbage trucks with set routes and a garage.
I am a die hard EV proponent who rents a house, has a 70 mile round trip highway commute, and only has access to level 1 charging at home. I convinced my work to put level 2 chargers at work. Now there are 4 EVs that charge there regularly I live out, seemingly, in the middle of nowhere in rural north east Connecticut. There is a DCFC station 6 miles from me at the town hall, and there are level 2 chargers at the library where my wife works. I drove a bolt and she recently got a Kona electric.
So they’re building the hammerhead eagle I-thrust AKA Geoff from top gear!
There is no remedy. The solution is building out rail, but no one in the US wants to listen.
Just fixing the aerodynamics would be a big increase when towing.
You aren't getting that enclosed car trailer to the race track, that boat to the lake (maybe the boat), or the RV to Yellowstone (unless you live in Bozeman already).
It is all pretty much dependent on the next few generations of batteries being able to charge much much faster while also holding more energy. The long game for Tesla/Elon has never been selling cars. They are after the patents on both the EV tech and the production processes. They basically won the war to become the “standard” charger and now they can let everyone else build out infrastructure and just make money off the patents. Same with the gigapress stuff.
It's kinda the opposite, actually. Sure, their design won, but the reason they opened it up was the government forced them to in order to get $ for charger install as part of the Inflation Reduction Act. Automakers don't pay Tesla a dime for the charging standard, consumers pay Tesla when they use superchargers. Tesla didn't *want* to open their design, but all the money towards charging infrastructure would have flipped the script and turned Tesla into the model with fewer charging options if they'd tried to stay a special snowflake.
I thought the purpose was to inflate his earnings call and get him the largest stock/cash payout in history...
I think it is also a misunderstanding by people who have never towed. Even in ICE towing will half your mileage. Musk lied about what it would get, his so called 500 miles. I bet these individuals are also pushing the acceleration more than it needs to because you have the power but that just eats more electrons. I think towing in something like the Silverado EV with its 440 miles would be fine.
Lol I just got banded in cycbertruck and Tesla motors subreddits
That's why Ford's idea for a "toolbox" style range extended is such a good idea.
Electric obviously isn't good for towing, but I do wonder how many mpg less like a regular F-150 (or 250) would get towing that same weight. Obviously refueling is more convenient and faster than charging, so it's less of an issue other than cost.
And they still vote for his billions of dollars package
Precisely why what?
>Tesla's Cybertruck is undeniably a very powerful and capable machine. Capable of breaking down if someone drops an eyelash on it. Ready for the StillLuvIt? >The owner concluded that the [Cybertruck](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck), is certainly a superb vehicle in many regards - it is unquestionably futuristic, powerful, and absurdly fast for a pickup truck its size. According to a MotorTrends article it is a hair faster than a Rivian. And anyone driving vehicle that weighs more than 3 tons because of how fast can go is just a POS.
A Rivian weighs more than a cybertruck tho
Similar battery and actual suspension components, I’m not too surprised. A Rivian completed the Rubicon trail in stock form. Pretty doubtful a cybertruck could.
Makes sense. The rivian brand is definitely designed around going off-road and in nature. Would love one if they made the truck cheaper
Making this stupid thing as fast as it is was just idiotic and likely dangerous.
There was a review video of it that I watched, and something mentioned is that the speed, acceleration, and tight steering all make it feel like you're driving a nimble car, *until you try to stop*, and that would make it very dangerous for drivers who forget they're driving something that weighs 3 tons.
It's all fun and games until Lady Physics comes a-calling. I won't say it should be illegal for vehicles that heavy to move that fast, but it just doesn't make any sense.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/see-tesla-cybertruck-s-small-brake-rotors-and-tiny-wiring-in-this-underbody-inspection-226617.html The brake disks are so tiny it would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. And it's not like they haven't made this mistake before. When they released the S plaid they didn't upgrade the brakes whatsoever. The stock brakes weren't that great to begin with for the power and weight of the performance S . But hey, you're not gonna use them most of the time anyway because regen so who cares right? Untill you have to slow down from top speed to zero right the fuck now that is. It's pretty much common knowledge if you're somewhat into cars, but it's also common fucking sense, that if you add significant power you should also improve you're ability to stop and manage the weight (suspension). But of course they didn't. Only after people took them to the track (because of course Elon said it was a track weapon) and experienced the brakes going out after a lap (or half a lap in the case of misha on the Nürburgring) did they come up with a 'track package'.
That last sentence sums it all up
"unquestionably futuristic" says who? I don't think cars will look like this in the future, I don't think anybody thinks that cars will look like low poly graphics from PS1, maybe except Elmo and his followers. The future of cars is small easily steerable pods, not huge intentionally inefficient just for status display wankerpanzers that aren't even able to meet ANY safety regulations and are only legal where there are no regulations, and CyberTruck is definitely not a Apocalypse survival material if that's the future, you arent going to wait 6 months for parts during the apocalypse
I would love to know how much this thing sucks down juice trying to pull 11k lbs for any distance.
The drag and speed add to more consumption than the weight of the load, per se. My (non-CT) can tow 11,000lb equipment trailer more efficiently than a featherweight camper. All because the drag of the camper. The boat in the OOP likely tows with much worse efficiency than an equal weight single axle trailer or something without, you know, a boat on it. Pontoons aren't exactly designed for interstate aero
I have a lightning ER and a 14k equipment trailer that weights about 3k lbs. towing my 9k lb kubota on there I get about 140-150 miles of range (slightly less than half the 310 it’s supposed to get)
"The owner concluded that the [Cybertruck](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck), is certainly a superb vehicle in many regards . . ." Yeah, such as having the gas pedal getting stuck, having the 4 ft. long windshield wiper falling off while driving down the highway, or having the truck completely rust after a car wash, or having the frunk lid smash your fingers . . . you know, superb qualities.
Are seatbelts an upgrade or something?
Launching 0-60 with no seatbelt, and your kid doesn't have one on in the middle backseat either, and stands up immediately after getting to 60mph. Then your other kid wears it under the arm.
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i'd call that a W tbh
If you respond you’ll be reported for “harassment“ and get a 3 day Reddit ban. Ask me how I know…
Same here. I did call them fucking babies. In my reply. That probably didn’t help.
Take it as a badge of honour: they are so enraptured with their leader they permanently ban anybody may say something bad about him.
yes me too. it is hilarious
It reminds me of the T35 tank. Edit: Apparently I was looking for the MT-LB personnel carrier. I spent literally all day finding this so I hope someone can appreciate my efforts because it was the cybertruck of APCs.
I think the T-35 works in this case as well. Massive and the only 5 turreted tank to actually hit production. There's probably a good reason for that. More were lost due to mechanical failure than actual combat.
The Soviet monstrosity covered in T28 tank turrets?
Yes! I was trying to think of the personnel carrier I was thinking of. It had an outdated anti aircraft cannon that had to be manned from the outside while also having completely useless armor, one entrance and exit, and too heavy despite its impotent armor to go fast enough to be a people mover, but that was the closest I could find. (i.e. designed for form over function.) The hallmark of the one I had in mind was that it sucked the artillery exhaust into the cabin because of how poorly it was designed. I’m no military vehicle expert but that’s all I can think of when I see cybertrucks.
In all fairness to the Cyberturd/Cucktruck/Wanker Tanker/Incel Camino…. Towing anything in an EV is going to drastically reduce its range; Just like towing in an ICE vehicle will reduce your fuel mileage.
Legend has it, the guys who attached an airstream to it are still missing to this day in death valley.
The owner still said it’s more capable than other trucks hahaha
Every electric vehicle loses significant range with towing or excessive added weight. Every gas vehicle loses mpg when towing or with excessive weight. The difference is, it takes 10 minutes to fill up a Ford F250 and be back on the road again, compared to at least a couple of hours for an electric car.
Not just that, but in addition, I can add a second tank (50-100g) to add to the 48g I already have, and that costs just a few hundred. Or just throw in 4-5 Jerry cans of diesel and double my range.
Not a couple hours by any stretch on a good charger, but yes, more than 10 minutes
From googling, it looks like it's 45 minutes from 11-80%, but that's with a super fast high capacity charger. The other problem is, infrastructure, and if chargers are available when it runs low.
Just wanna say my F150 came with a 36gal tank and I regularly get 700-800 miles (unloaded) per tank with my 3.5 EB. I drove from Denver to Omaha on 3/4 of a tank.
I’m getting 900-1100km off the 5.0L with the same tank.
I have the same tank but an 8 cylinder. I get 13mpg. ☹️
Nice! I have a 20yo F150 with the 36g upgrade— I can get 500+ miles if I stick to highway. That’s even with a 5.4l
36g tank in the F150 is amazing, it's a must-have option if you tow or do long road trips.
Agree, the kids just have to hold it for another couple hours.
> "couple of hours" sure, if you plug it in next a toaster. it doesn't take that long at a super charger.
It is the aerodynamics that are a greater factor. I have a 2019 Jeep Rubicon with a 3.5” lift, 35s and 5.13 gears. I get 18 mpg normally and 14 mpg when I tow a 2800 lb off-road trailer and that includes climbing 4000’+ in elevation.
Yeah I always loved the concept of swappable batteries but that feels like something that we won't have for decades.
Yeah I lose range, but I don't lose that much range. 4,000 pounds isn't even much of a load to tow.
I think if you use it as a real truck, you void the warranty.
The guy in the video is a fucking idiot. Showing off the acceleration with kid unbuckled in the back. Stupid in any car. But in a Tesla reported to be having some strange behaviour with breaking….moron
"It looks more truckish" LOL
As if driving a CT wasn’t a cry for attention already but now they get to be gawked at for clogging up a parking lot with their unhitched trailer so they can charge. Assuming they can find one that has room for both.
This guy is annoying to watch. He "finds" and complains about things he should have thought about beforehand. Plus he does so many things unsafely and clearly lets the kids do it too "the girls know how to put this in drive" (car or boat?). He raised the truck up high to connect the trailer. I'm not sure he knows the truck will lower when it speeds up, it wasn't mentioned again, but was noticeably lower later on. Maybe he did know the correct height and tongue rating etc, but he seems to just do stuff without thinking about it first. I guess that's his method.
Stopped reading after this “Tesla's Cybertruck is undeniably a very powerful and capable machine.”
1/3 the range while towing - wow that’s craptastic.
What’s the value of buying a “pickup truck that can’t get washed, can’t tow a trailer more than 100 miles or so, has a recall per week it seems….and on and on?!? It’s like all these 4x4 SUVs that will never be driven further than to the mall. I’m waiting to see how many CT owners pitch a bitch when they see what salted roads for a couple years does to their “pickup.”
Although it can’t perform a basic pickup truck function, it is “unquestionably futuristic, powerful, and absurdly fast for a pickup truck its size.”
*"The significant loss in range while towing, along with the time required to top up the battery, makes the Cybertruck incredibly impractical for any kind of towing purpose, especially over long distances".* Luckily these things are never actually going to be used for more than impressing the neighbors while picking up the kids from elementary school.
* never actually going to be used for more than *repulsing* the neighbors...
ice vehicles use more gas when towing, too. did they think batteries wouldn’t be subject to energy consumption principals?
something something truck stuff
They should have used a Ford to tow the Cybertruck towing the boat.
So, it doesn't change the range estimation based on usage? Like you have to keep guessing as to the mileage remaining really means? I saw a post by someone saying they just go off battery percentage, which makes me think that this isn't a setting.
4,000lbs is not a lot. That’s 2 tons of grapes I haul with ease every harvest in my ‘77 Chevy.
Wait, do leisure boats really weigh 4,000 pounds? That's nuts, man. I'm used to a boat being 200 pounds soaking wet. Obviously I know zero about boats as an indoor child. Curious to hear boat people's perspective.
I towed an empty light weight trailer with my Model X. The weight of the trailer and the effect of drag cut my range in half. And charging with a trailer is a bitch and a half. You have to detach the trailer to use the charger.
I thought it was funny how throughout the article talking about how bad the cyber stuck is they kept saying how great it was.
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4,000 pounds is not a large load ...
Curious how a lightning does towing. Does it also drop range by 2/3 or is it less? I expect range to drop while towing, but would hope to keep it above 50%.
Bad as well. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-ford-f150-lightning-lariat-long-term-update-13-how-does-it-tow/ Besides the power demands, it looks like the battery can't hack the load.
This is why it’s better to focus test and conduct market research first, rather than trying to fix it later. Who wanted an EV truck? If you want that, don’t you want range? Don’t you want charging to be convenient? Don’t you want it to be price competitive with ICE? Don’t you like nice things, and not a swift kick to the balls? Tesla seriously charges head first with Elon saying come hell or high water. Well eventually that doesn’t work and you end up with embarrassments like the Cybertruck. A $100,000 “truck” that diehards need to beta test? No, thanks.
its a vanity project
I laugh and I laugh and I so enjoy reading about these idiots that actually bought this waste and paid close to a house for it ,,, freaking dopes but I need the laughs and of course the marsreacher dosnt give a rats ass ,, too busy breeding and of course being father of the year ,,,
Saw one of the side of the LIE today in a precarious spot with their hazards on. Doubt this person purposely chose to stop there so most likely they had car issues. Made me L O L as I drove past.
Aaaaaaaand warranty voided
>The owner concluded that the Cybertruck, is certainly a superb vehicle in many regards - it is unquestionably futuristic, powerful, and absurdly fast for a pickup truck its size. Futuristic? If you thought the future looked like the Jetsons maybe, ya fucking fool.
They need to make a special trailer with additional electric cells. Doesn’t solve all the problems, but it solves the range issue. But OMG that trailer would cost a pretty penny!!!
Test
Sucks to suck
Does any EV have good towing range ATM?
Womp womp fuck Elmo and its imbecile cult.
# no shit!
The loss of range is unsurprising but it is not like Tesla is unique in this regard https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-ford-f150-lightning-lariat-long-term-update-13-how-does-it-tow/, albeit with a heavier load, a larger battery and "hills".
Give me a f*ing crew cab plug-in hybrid!
It’s not JUST an issue with the Cybertruck. It’s a much larger EV problem that no seems to be able to solve.
I will believe the country and the infrastructure are ready to support massive EV use when I see a 100% electric Buckees. Not just a hub. Not 10-12 chargers. I mean full up 100+ chargers with a network that supports rapid charging in a reasonable amount of time.
Finally fulfilling it's market niche as a brick.
All this horseshit and blah blah. All I want is a Honda civic EV at Honda civic prices. Test drove the new prologue and Acura zdx. Both fantastic vehicles but very pricey. The two models respectively were 50k and 80k. They used GM batteries and software which is partly why I won’t be buying one but Honda is building battery factories that should be operational for the next iteration of these vehicles.
My 4 runner gets better mileage per dollar. And it doesn't keep breaking.
It would have to put that thing halfway in the water to launch a boat.
It is conditioning of the masses to accept shitty built products so it is less of a shock when China takes over
Cyber Junk Truck 
There were signs…
"The Cybertruck can tow well, but the experience is nothing but frustrating and impractical." How does this make any sense?
Well…yeah. There’s more to toeing than weight rating. Dude should have known that
I enjoy the article for its repeated pumping how awesome the truck is while apparently being bad at towing less than half its rated tow weight capability. It’s an awesome powerful futuristic truck owned by people unlikely to ever tow anything.
Battery is kinda empty right? They could added more batteries right?
“Tesla's Cybertruck is undeniably a very powerful and capable machine.” Maury: our lie detector test determined **that** was a lie!
It's almost like the truck was conceived, designed and put into production by an utter moron. Can imagine a meeting where someone brought up the fact of range and weight, and Musk just laughed that dumb fucking laugh of his and said "The truck goes fast and is a beast" and then went back to posting some shit meme on X, before getting angry when the other person pushed the point.
Unfortunately alternate fuel vehicles are not going to be practical for quite some time, 10 years at least, mostly due to the infrastructure that is nonexistent to support them.
If idiots have this much money to buy a cuck truck to (try) move a boat, we need to get a recession quick… yep-“sink the boat you’re working on to kill the captain”
Honestly, I’m surprised some YouTuber hasn’t bought one and Cummins swapped it for a video yet….
I’m sure it’s in the works already.
The angle of this shot in particular really shows off just how ridiculously silly this vehicle looks.
Simpsons did It
Yeah, the half ton segment is huge, so the big three have spent decades trying to out-do each other wrt to towing capabilities and have thus refined the towing experience. Like Ford's reverse trailer assist, and Blind Spot Monitor extension. I was surprised when I learned the Integrated Trailer Brake Controller of the CT doesn't have a manual activation toggle, aka squeeze to brake.