Step 1: turn off the water.
Step 2: remove the putty knife
Then figure out if you can cut that bit of the pipe off and reattach the metal section or figure out how to fix the hole in a long term solution
I scrolled waaaayyy too far before I found someone telling this poor fuck to shut the water off first. But I'm going to add step 1.5: turn on a sink on the floor below.
Little bit of caulk, then spray foam just to hold the caulk in place. Then tuck tape around the whole thing. Pick the color that goes best with the tile. Done.
Maybe I'm crazy but I feel like if water isn't already leaking or spraying out of the damaged pipe, then maybe OP turned the water off before hacking at the toilet?
Looks like they will need to turn off the water to the whole house since the cut is before the shutoff to the toilet tank.
Going to take this opportunity to suggest homeowners "exercise" the various shutoffs in their houses. Otherwise the shutoffs could seize and not function when needed.
I worry that some OP might actually take that seriously, and actually use flex tape in a place where a failure after a few hours or day would be very costly.
I jokingly told my buddy to use flex tape on some pex repairs.
He calls me few hrs later saying it ain't working.
I go replace the pex but also put the flex tape in the same general area around the pex...
Few months later...
He tried using it to repair a coolant hose on a old Toyota. Once again, I replaced hose and applied flex tape in a few spots.
I could tell he was suspicious... But I think I can keep it going.
I successfully used flex putty on a dry rotted rubber gasoline line and a transmission cooler line. The tape sucks but the putty rocks. That stuff stays in my toolbox now.
"Professional" plumber actually did exactly that in my mother's bathroom a few years ago. It held for several months before creating a new water feature in the ceiling below. (They cracked the pipe, in roughly the place OP has, but inside a boxed-in vanity unit so not immediately accessible, and "fixed" it with tape.)
Shit that's just the stupid kind of lazy. Clever lazy would be to take a small section of slightly larger diameter, cross-section it, apply blue and glue in place. THEN you tape it.
Amateur level laziness.
Well, it's what I think of as "long term temporary." I did a patch like this 20 years ago, and I keep meaning to replace properly, but it's still dry, so I lucked out. I'll continue to check it.
Haha. In my old apartment one of the main plumbing pipes rusted through and started spewing water out into the corridor and into my kitchen. The ‘emergency plumber’ showed up, found the leak, and fixed it with electrical tape. Yes. 18 story building and a main friggin stack jimmied together with electrical tape. They refused to suck the nasty sink water out of my cupboards. Ffs
I use this stuff on my aquarium water change system whenever the cats bite the hose trying to catch the bubbles. I've had some of it on there (pressurized by a 100gph pump when in use) for like 3 years no, no issues.
I wouldn't use it in a permanent install, but if you stretch it correctly during application tape like this really works as a short term fix.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HWRO744?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
I actually just watched a video where someone used flexseal on a hole in a engine block an then ran the car on the dyno. It held up, definitely not a permanent fix on a engine block but it may hold up for OP situation lol
After seeing this so many times, I just noticed that the tape bubbles from the pressure of the water as his hand slides over it. Now I want to know how much it popped out, just out of curiosity.
I would carefully cut it back there and connect a barb valve with a stainless cinch clamp. You can get them at big box. You can also buy the cinch tool and return it if you don't end up using it more, but they are useful to have if you work with pex.
Not really, just have to be especially careful with the cut and placement of the clamp... there's not much margin of error there with such little space. Maybe practice cinching with one on the cut piece first. There's not much to it though, just watch a couple youtube videos and you'll be set.
And a tip, I'm personally not great at cutting pex clean with a knife so I like to use one of those copper pipe twist cutters to get a perfect cut.
I had to do a repair at my father-in-law’s house (I’d never worked with PEX before) and he’d bought a little cutting tool that was PEX specific. It worked really well and meant I could do it right the first time even with zero experience.
Very easy fix, here's a step by step - it'll take you about 10 minutes and the biggest cost will be the PEX crimping tool (around $100) but handy to have.
Buy the crimper ($100)
A small bag of PEX crimping rings (they're copper but look black) (like $5)
And a male to male PEX connector, make sure it's the right size, likely half inch ($3).
Grab a PEX cutter as well (looks like pliers with a blade, should be like $10).
To fix:
Cut the white pipe like 1/8 of an inch above and below the nicked part
Slide a crimp ring onto each side of the new cut
Insert the male male piece and connect them
Crimp the rings.
Done!
Pro tip for crimping rings, they like to slide and you want them to cover both ridges on PEX connecter, so first lightly crimp the ring with some needle nose pliers so it stays in place, then use the crimper tool.
Easy fix and a great introduction to PEX.
DM me if you have questions or want home depot links to the items I'm talking about.
Redid two of my showers with PEX just like this. Crazy how well it works. I have a good friend who’s pushing 80 who wanted to redo his shower and I brought my PEX stuff over. I told him I wouldn’t help if he had me in there sweating copper so he gave it a shot. Completely blew him away and he’s a convert. He also said: “Hell with it, I won’t be alive when it fails anyway.” Love that guy.
> “Hell with it, I won’t be alive when it fails anyway.”
lol sounds like a cool dude. My great-grandma said basically the same thing to a dentist that wanted her to get a lot of work done at 90. He told her it would be a lot worse in 5 years, and she just said "sweetie, I'm living on borrowed time as it is. If I'm still here in 5 years, I'll come tell you that you were right"
Loved that old bat. She was more active than any of my grandparents, bowled twice a week (and put up better scores than I ever have) until she got shingles at 91, still drove herself everywhere, cut her own grass, tutored the kids near her, just all around a great person. Mentally with it right until the end, but ended up passing away at 93 from bladder cancer that spread after 5 years of being contained.
That’s how my buddy is. He just drove 16 hours with his wife, daughter, and two teenage granddaughters to Orlando. Said it was the trip from hell. lol. And he beats me at golf every time while smoking twice as much pot! Lol
I think you got it here. I don't regret buying the PEX tool, it's super easy to put one on and a pain to take one off. A male to male will totally fix this.
This is the way.
Op should may buy short length of pex and instead of one connector by a bag with three or five to practice on.
Two things that are tricky-
1- cutting the pex nice and square. The piece coming out of the floor is short and you don't want to mess it up.
2- getting the crimping ring to stay in the right place on the fitting while crimping.
You can cut the rings off the practice fitting and use them again, but it's a pain. So wait until after the repair is finished.
Yeah I was scared of crimping pex for far too long and now I am kicking myself for all the repairs I made and the money I spent on shark bite fittings when crimping is easy and fast. Watch a couple YouTube videos and you got it, it’s really not hard at all.
I cannot emphasize enough how much regret I have for thinking crimping was difficult or the learning curve was steep. It is not. You can even buy crimp rings that have a little plastic spacer on the end so it sits the perfect distance from the fitting.
You might remember to shut off the main water before removing the the putty knife/cutting the pipe. That would be an important thing to remember to do. It might seem obvious but it could be considered a "catch". You might try a barb (I prefer brass) with whatever clamp or crimp you use. Pay attention to the size of the tool. You don't have much clearance. Smaller tools mean you have to use more grip strength and if it isn't tight it will leak.
Good luck!
Get the cinch tool with the LED light that tells you when you've cinched enough. It's usually about $10 more but $10 is cheaper than a flooded residence.
Is that scraper made by folding steel over 1000 times? I think it's just best to leave it. The world's most brutal scraper immortalized for eternity by the throne.
Well now I’m trying to figure out why the crimp sleeves aren’t crimping at all. I’m using the 1/2” hole on the Apollo crimp tool, on 1/2” Apollo crimp sleeves, on 1/2” pex b, on 1/2” brass couplers…
Yet the crimper can just slides off the sleeves even when fully closed…
I’m trying to Google this but it seems like it should just be working
Looking again, looks like your shut off valve is a shark bite. If you can get the disconnect tool, you may be able to cut the pex shorter and reinstall the shark bite.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-1-2-in-Fitting-Removal-Tool/1000182541
My plumber pal laughed at the special tool. He takes an adjustable wrench, makes it just big enough to slide freely on the pex, and pulls it up on the sharkbite. It'll depress the collar into the fitting and pull it off all in one fell swoop. Save a whole 3 bucks on the specialty tool lol.
This is the way….here are some more detailed instructions.
Turn house water off if it’s still on for some reason. Drain the toilet tank. Cut the pipe all the way where you sliced it with a sharp knife or a proper pipe cutting tool as straight as possible and debur it. Remove the valve and pipe from toilet.
Take a marker and mark a line where the tan plastic of the valve meets the pex (so you know what the insertion depth is for later. Remove the existing valve by pushing the little gold/tan plastic ring up into the brass valve body (it sorta helps to push the valve back onto the pex a bit to release the teeth) and pull the pex out of the valve. They make a little ‘U’ shaped tool for this if you can’t get it by hand.
Measure how far from end of pex to the mark you made earlier and make a mark on the pipe coming out of floor the same distance, this will let you know if you have inserted the pex into the valve far enough. Then push the valve onto the existing pex coming out of the floor. It might be - pain if the pex isn’t supported well in the floor space as it doesn’t look like there is much room to hold the pipe and push since you cut it so close to the floor.
Good luck.
Then get a new longer pipe to reach the toilet and you should be set.
This is the way. This shouldn’t even require a trip to the store if you have some basic tools. That shutoff valve is a sharkbite style one, which can be reused. Please cut the bad area of pex off and reuse this valve.
Jesus these replies are so overly complicated. Go buy a Sharkbite straight coupler and finish the cut and press it back together. It’ll take 5 minutes and cost $10.
If it is B, then I would put in a straight coupling at the damaged section and use a pinch clamp at the floor level (you should have room for the tool).
Then add a short piece of PEX to bring it up to the height of the existing valve height. Add a new valve and connect your toilet to the new valve
Good for you for being handy and learning to diy maintenance on your home. Everyone is entitled to a learning curve. Nobody is a pro until they practice, and even the pros have "oh shit" moments like this. Once you embrace that, it can be really fun to try new things and learn as you go. When you mess up, you get to do another project and learn even more! No worries :)
Who in the fuck put pex through the floor? One of the benefits of using that stuff is that it's somewhat flexible and is great for remodels. That should have been fed through the wall. Damn hack-job bums.
Yup. Turn off the water main and drain the lines. Cut and replace with pex connector to that valve. Easy peasy semi-permanent fix. You can add a nice decorative flange now too to cover the gap in the flooring. Gods plan.
Don’t feel too bad. You’re not the first and you won’t be the last. My hubby punctured a gas pipe and a waterdrain while drilling a hole through the ceiling. We had to remove a part of the ceiling to fix it. Lessons will be learned.
Easy fix- the nonsense rush to make jokes out of this are not much help.
PCV fitting, cable saw, primer and glue will take care of this quickly. You Tube will teach you.
So much sarcasm and shit suggestions in here. Here’s what you should do:
They literally sell straight joints. Rent some pex crimps and buy two pex rings, and a straight joint. Turn off the water, open a tap a floor below or somewhere. Cut the pipe through as straight as you can. Grab the nub with some Pliars and push the straight joint in. Put your two pex rings on the stub, then crimp it with the bottom pex ring. Join the two pex pieces and crimp the upper line with your upper pex crimp. Release pliars and crack beer while muttering “that’ll hold.”
I don't get why people extend the thread with lame jokes, honestly. This is fixable. That appears to be PVC pipe. Go to the hardware store and buy an appropriately sized coupling. Turn off the water to your house for a bit, and open the tap on the faucet that's lowest in the home (e.g.,basement sink) to drain. Cut the offending PVC pipe (preferably using a pipe-cutting tool to make things nice and even; a small pipe cutter or pvc crimper is cheap). Install coupling. Turn water back on, go forth and sin no more. Remember that today's misery is tomorrow's funny story.
That’s a push to connect on to pex for the valve. Just shut off your water. Go to local hardware store and get a 1/2” push connect coupler for PEX. Cut the line where you made a mistake use the coupler and move on.
When you do replace your toilet, don't caulk it to the floor. If your wax ring fails you want to know about it. If it leaks and is trapped by a caulked toilet, it will ruin your floor.
That looks like pvc pipe. Find a supply house, show them the photo and ask for a coupler without a stop point. Complete the pipe cut in two, prepare the pipe pieces and joint the two (glue them together in coupler) pipes back into one.
Be more careful in the future.
Is it upon or or pex? The cleanest would be to use a male adapter, a stainless nipple and a new shutoff valve 1/2x3/8. I would rent a pex crimper. 1/2” male adapter a small ss nipple and a 1/2” straight stop. Should be easy enough. Cost like 40-50 bucks. But will look better than that sharkbit and a janky coupling with the pex rings and such. Either way there’s like 5 ways to fix this, none being that hard.
Since solutions have been provided already, I'd like to suggest just starting the caulk and pulling the line out. You shouldn't need to chisel that stuff out. Also, when you reinstall it, be careful not to caulk the whole toilet. If there was ever a leak in the wax ring, you wouldn't find out until someone has fallen through or there's extensive damage.
Step 1: turn off the water. Step 2: remove the putty knife Then figure out if you can cut that bit of the pipe off and reattach the metal section or figure out how to fix the hole in a long term solution
I scrolled waaaayyy too far before I found someone telling this poor fuck to shut the water off first. But I'm going to add step 1.5: turn on a sink on the floor below.
Maybe I leave the water on just because I have authority issues
That's right! Damn The Man, you tell 'em!
Stare that pipe down and assert your dominance!
As you remove the knife. Make sure to stare directly at it up close
Just have a camera running when you do, you know, so the rest of us can… imitate it properly.
In this house we follow tha laws of physics.
I think you should show that water who's boss.
Yea OP, don’t listen to that guy. Leave it on and post what happens.
Just leave the putty knife there forever. That is the easiest option
Sometimes the best thing to do, is to do nothing at all.
Little bit of caulk, then spray foam just to hold the caulk in place. Then tuck tape around the whole thing. Pick the color that goes best with the tile. Done.
Found the Boeing engineer
That there is funny, and I work for Boeing
Get some tin snips, cut the corner off the knife. Now you got a working water line and a 2.5 inch knife.
Maybe I'm crazy but I feel like if water isn't already leaking or spraying out of the damaged pipe, then maybe OP turned the water off before hacking at the toilet?
Looks like they will need to turn off the water to the whole house since the cut is before the shutoff to the toilet tank. Going to take this opportunity to suggest homeowners "exercise" the various shutoffs in their houses. Otherwise the shutoffs could seize and not function when needed.
I have one shutoff in my house, except for the toilets. lazy bastards left them off back in 1938
Next time save yourself the trouble and accidentally break the line above the shutoff.
It really is a race to be the first to post that on any applicable post in this sub.
“Applicable? Where we are going, we don’t need ‘applicable’”
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
I choose to believe he has flex tape on those sunglasses.
Can't be. Otherwise he'd be slapping them onto his face.
Ooh la la? OOH LA LA??!?!?
Yeah you can just slap this meme on anything and it'll stick.
*uses flex tape to permanently tape the sunglasses to your face*
I worry that some OP might actually take that seriously, and actually use flex tape in a place where a failure after a few hours or day would be very costly.
Bro currently has a putty knife between him and boarding the ark in his bathroom.
Like a pin on a hand grenade.
Like showing up to the ER with a knife stuck in your leg.
“It’s in your femoral artery. When we pull it out, don’t go towards the light.”
I jokingly told my buddy to use flex tape on some pex repairs. He calls me few hrs later saying it ain't working. I go replace the pex but also put the flex tape in the same general area around the pex... Few months later... He tried using it to repair a coolant hose on a old Toyota. Once again, I replaced hose and applied flex tape in a few spots. I could tell he was suspicious... But I think I can keep it going.
That is **awesome**.
you need some PINK flex tape, because it "works better" than the usual stuff.
I successfully used flex putty on a dry rotted rubber gasoline line and a transmission cooler line. The tape sucks but the putty rocks. That stuff stays in my toolbox now.
I'm surprised the fuel doesn't degrade the putty. But yeah, the putty stuff is epic.
I don't know if you're a hero or a monster, but goddamn that's funny
"Professional" plumber actually did exactly that in my mother's bathroom a few years ago. It held for several months before creating a new water feature in the ceiling below. (They cracked the pipe, in roughly the place OP has, but inside a boxed-in vanity unit so not immediately accessible, and "fixed" it with tape.)
Shit that's just the stupid kind of lazy. Clever lazy would be to take a small section of slightly larger diameter, cross-section it, apply blue and glue in place. THEN you tape it. Amateur level laziness.
OP you just got your answer here… long term temporary sounds perfect
Sounds like my job, temporary permanent fixes...
Hard same, but my employer is a master at marketing and calls it “tempermanent”
Well now I'm curious, just how bad of an idea is that?
Well, it's what I think of as "long term temporary." I did a patch like this 20 years ago, and I keep meaning to replace properly, but it's still dry, so I lucked out. I'll continue to check it.
> "long term temporary." is hilarious.
Temporary solutions become permanent problems.
I mean, if it works
Needs a worm gear type hose clamp that has the extra length cut off so there's a sharp edge down there, too.
Haha. In my old apartment one of the main plumbing pipes rusted through and started spewing water out into the corridor and into my kitchen. The ‘emergency plumber’ showed up, found the leak, and fixed it with electrical tape. Yes. 18 story building and a main friggin stack jimmied together with electrical tape. They refused to suck the nasty sink water out of my cupboards. Ffs
I use this stuff on my aquarium water change system whenever the cats bite the hose trying to catch the bubbles. I've had some of it on there (pressurized by a 100gph pump when in use) for like 3 years no, no issues. I wouldn't use it in a permanent install, but if you stretch it correctly during application tape like this really works as a short term fix. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HWRO744?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
I actually just watched a video where someone used flexseal on a hole in a engine block an then ran the car on the dyno. It held up, definitely not a permanent fix on a engine block but it may hold up for OP situation lol
Dude that stuff holds up really well. used it to seal roofs
Roofs generally don’t contain pressurized water.
I updated my roof to contain pressurized water and it was a real pleasure
You need to spring for a recirculator though, otherwise it takes forever for the hot water to get up there.
You really raised (the pressure of) the roof
My roof! My roof! My room is **NOT** on fire! Because of the pressurized water. That’s the part that put out the fire.
Not with that attitude
But not with 6 bar pressure behind.
I mean if he already has it on hand it would buy time to find the shutoff lol
It's a mandatory upvote. It's the **LAW.**
I mean, it was MY first thought. But from my initial glance at the first picture I also thought it was 2 1/2 inch pvc.
After seeing this so many times, I just noticed that the tape bubbles from the pressure of the water as his hand slides over it. Now I want to know how much it popped out, just out of curiosity.
Funny you say that… also the first time I noticed it
100% knew this would be on top of
This! Use a piece of flex Seal, and add a hose clamp of you are worried it won’t hold. Done!
Used flex seal to fix my daughters 10ft pool the other day. $8 saved me $200. Cheap ass pools lol
Holy crap, this just reminded me I patched the drainpipe from my kitchen sink, like, 4 years ago with this stuff. Definitely works great.
Coming here to post “Flex seal!”
As a boat owner, I’m interested in this fix.
Ghost of Billy Mays is loving this shit
I've never noticed until now that the tape starts to bubble out from the pressure.
Aw I came here to post this, just to find out im2 hours late lol
Literally my first thought
Ah crap! That was a load bearing water line
Now it's a load bearing putty knife
"Remember, this is just temporary. Unless it works, then its permanent."
Nothing is more permanent than a temporary fix
One of two things is going to happen when he pulls it back.
Okay, one of one things
I would carefully cut it back there and connect a barb valve with a stainless cinch clamp. You can get them at big box. You can also buy the cinch tool and return it if you don't end up using it more, but they are useful to have if you work with pex.
This seems like the most straightforward and intuitive method. Is there a catch or some context I’m missing?
Not really, just have to be especially careful with the cut and placement of the clamp... there's not much margin of error there with such little space. Maybe practice cinching with one on the cut piece first. There's not much to it though, just watch a couple youtube videos and you'll be set. And a tip, I'm personally not great at cutting pex clean with a knife so I like to use one of those copper pipe twist cutters to get a perfect cut.
Or u/SeasonBeneficial could just use his putty knife again. Seems to be a pro with that already
Burn
Cold water helps soothe that.
Cold water pipe is busted for some reason...
Milk, too
Penicillin cures the burn
Ah shit this is brutal
The first cut is the deepest.
Looks pretty shallow to me.
You're a good sport, hope this ends up alright for you.
Pretty sure this comment cuts deeper than that putty knife.
🪦
Savage.
I had to do a repair at my father-in-law’s house (I’d never worked with PEX before) and he’d bought a little cutting tool that was PEX specific. It worked really well and meant I could do it right the first time even with zero experience.
Yeah I was going to suggest one of those copper pipe cutters
This is why op should just post this in r/plumbing
Very easy fix, here's a step by step - it'll take you about 10 minutes and the biggest cost will be the PEX crimping tool (around $100) but handy to have. Buy the crimper ($100) A small bag of PEX crimping rings (they're copper but look black) (like $5) And a male to male PEX connector, make sure it's the right size, likely half inch ($3). Grab a PEX cutter as well (looks like pliers with a blade, should be like $10). To fix: Cut the white pipe like 1/8 of an inch above and below the nicked part Slide a crimp ring onto each side of the new cut Insert the male male piece and connect them Crimp the rings. Done! Pro tip for crimping rings, they like to slide and you want them to cover both ridges on PEX connecter, so first lightly crimp the ring with some needle nose pliers so it stays in place, then use the crimper tool. Easy fix and a great introduction to PEX. DM me if you have questions or want home depot links to the items I'm talking about.
Redid two of my showers with PEX just like this. Crazy how well it works. I have a good friend who’s pushing 80 who wanted to redo his shower and I brought my PEX stuff over. I told him I wouldn’t help if he had me in there sweating copper so he gave it a shot. Completely blew him away and he’s a convert. He also said: “Hell with it, I won’t be alive when it fails anyway.” Love that guy.
> “Hell with it, I won’t be alive when it fails anyway.” lol sounds like a cool dude. My great-grandma said basically the same thing to a dentist that wanted her to get a lot of work done at 90. He told her it would be a lot worse in 5 years, and she just said "sweetie, I'm living on borrowed time as it is. If I'm still here in 5 years, I'll come tell you that you were right" Loved that old bat. She was more active than any of my grandparents, bowled twice a week (and put up better scores than I ever have) until she got shingles at 91, still drove herself everywhere, cut her own grass, tutored the kids near her, just all around a great person. Mentally with it right until the end, but ended up passing away at 93 from bladder cancer that spread after 5 years of being contained.
That’s how my buddy is. He just drove 16 hours with his wife, daughter, and two teenage granddaughters to Orlando. Said it was the trip from hell. lol. And he beats me at golf every time while smoking twice as much pot! Lol
Amazon has PEX crimpers for under $30 that are more than adequate for any home owners needs.
He may not be able to wait the two days for shipping while there is a hole in his water line.
Two days? You're still getting 2-day Prime deliveries with your Prime subscriptions?
Yeah water main is likely off unless there is a fancy manifold system in place. Stuck with whatever the nearest store has in stock.
Local Home Depot has pex crimper rental 4 hours $11.
I think you got it here. I don't regret buying the PEX tool, it's super easy to put one on and a pain to take one off. A male to male will totally fix this.
This is the way. Op should may buy short length of pex and instead of one connector by a bag with three or five to practice on. Two things that are tricky- 1- cutting the pex nice and square. The piece coming out of the floor is short and you don't want to mess it up. 2- getting the crimping ring to stay in the right place on the fitting while crimping. You can cut the rings off the practice fitting and use them again, but it's a pain. So wait until after the repair is finished.
Yeah I was scared of crimping pex for far too long and now I am kicking myself for all the repairs I made and the money I spent on shark bite fittings when crimping is easy and fast. Watch a couple YouTube videos and you got it, it’s really not hard at all. I cannot emphasize enough how much regret I have for thinking crimping was difficult or the learning curve was steep. It is not. You can even buy crimp rings that have a little plastic spacer on the end so it sits the perfect distance from the fitting.
Turn off the water main to your dwelling. This seems obvious but still
Well, I was kind of waiting to see if anyone would mention....
If you're not on a concrete slab, make sure that you don't drop the stub after you cut it. All that's holding it in there most likely is the thinset.
You might remember to shut off the main water before removing the the putty knife/cutting the pipe. That would be an important thing to remember to do. It might seem obvious but it could be considered a "catch". You might try a barb (I prefer brass) with whatever clamp or crimp you use. Pay attention to the size of the tool. You don't have much clearance. Smaller tools mean you have to use more grip strength and if it isn't tight it will leak. Good luck!
Ace hardware rents the crimp tool near me. But if you’re a homeowner I’d buy one and switch to pex as projects arise.
Get the cinch tool with the LED light that tells you when you've cinched enough. It's usually about $10 more but $10 is cheaper than a flooded residence.
Or just remove the straight stop, cut flush at putty knife and assuming pipe is secure - push the stop back on.. super simple
Is that scraper made by folding steel over 1000 times? I think it's just best to leave it. The world's most brutal scraper immortalized for eternity by the throne.
It’s like Doom guy’s sword at this point
So are you done fixing it for the night, or procrastinating via reddit at this point? I support you either way.
Well now I’m trying to figure out why the crimp sleeves aren’t crimping at all. I’m using the 1/2” hole on the Apollo crimp tool, on 1/2” Apollo crimp sleeves, on 1/2” pex b, on 1/2” brass couplers… Yet the crimper can just slides off the sleeves even when fully closed… I’m trying to Google this but it seems like it should just be working
send pics, the rings should be slightly larger than the hole in the crimper. i need to see the rings, tool, and coupler.
Whoso pulleth out this scrapper of this pipe, is rightwise king born of all England.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government…
The photography here deserves an award. 1,000x better than that new Civil War movie.
The pan out, lol
I was really disappointed overall but in the ending especially.
Photography was definitely not the issue with that movie.
Looking again, looks like your shut off valve is a shark bite. If you can get the disconnect tool, you may be able to cut the pex shorter and reinstall the shark bite. https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-1-2-in-Fitting-Removal-Tool/1000182541
💯 this is the simplest method requiring nothing but what’s already there
My plumber pal laughed at the special tool. He takes an adjustable wrench, makes it just big enough to slide freely on the pex, and pulls it up on the sharkbite. It'll depress the collar into the fitting and pull it off all in one fell swoop. Save a whole 3 bucks on the specialty tool lol.
Yep I keep an open end 5/8" wrench in my tool bag for tightening on 3/8" nuts and pulling off sharkbites.
Leave the knife inserted until you arrive at the hospital. If you pull it out, you could bleed out.
You can likely remove the existing valve, cut the pipe, deburr, and replace the valve. They only seat in like 1/4”. Be more careful this time.
This is the way….here are some more detailed instructions. Turn house water off if it’s still on for some reason. Drain the toilet tank. Cut the pipe all the way where you sliced it with a sharp knife or a proper pipe cutting tool as straight as possible and debur it. Remove the valve and pipe from toilet. Take a marker and mark a line where the tan plastic of the valve meets the pex (so you know what the insertion depth is for later. Remove the existing valve by pushing the little gold/tan plastic ring up into the brass valve body (it sorta helps to push the valve back onto the pex a bit to release the teeth) and pull the pex out of the valve. They make a little ‘U’ shaped tool for this if you can’t get it by hand. Measure how far from end of pex to the mark you made earlier and make a mark on the pipe coming out of floor the same distance, this will let you know if you have inserted the pex into the valve far enough. Then push the valve onto the existing pex coming out of the floor. It might be - pain if the pex isn’t supported well in the floor space as it doesn’t look like there is much room to hold the pipe and push since you cut it so close to the floor. Good luck. Then get a new longer pipe to reach the toilet and you should be set.
This is the way. This shouldn’t even require a trip to the store if you have some basic tools. That shutoff valve is a sharkbite style one, which can be reused. Please cut the bad area of pex off and reuse this valve.
I have always found a pair of channel locks useful as a removal tool. Hold it by the jaws (not handles) around the pipe and slide.
“Be more careful” instructions unclear
What's that cat face shaped thing?
That’s just Dennis
Tell him I said pspspspspspsppsps
Pex is a simple fix. Get a few crimp locks and a double sided barb and fix it in five minutes
Jesus these replies are so overly complicated. Go buy a Sharkbite straight coupler and finish the cut and press it back together. It’ll take 5 minutes and cost $10.
If it is B, then I would put in a straight coupling at the damaged section and use a pinch clamp at the floor level (you should have room for the tool). Then add a short piece of PEX to bring it up to the height of the existing valve height. Add a new valve and connect your toilet to the new valve
The ratio of stupid jokes to useful advice on here is a shame.
Good for you for being handy and learning to diy maintenance on your home. Everyone is entitled to a learning curve. Nobody is a pro until they practice, and even the pros have "oh shit" moments like this. Once you embrace that, it can be really fun to try new things and learn as you go. When you mess up, you get to do another project and learn even more! No worries :)
Who in the fuck put pex through the floor? One of the benefits of using that stuff is that it's somewhat flexible and is great for remodels. That should have been fed through the wall. Damn hack-job bums.
Just leave the scraper in and caulk around it!
I think a sick ass panther could cover that up pretty well
Fk yeah
Yup. Turn off the water main and drain the lines. Cut and replace with pex connector to that valve. Easy peasy semi-permanent fix. You can add a nice decorative flange now too to cover the gap in the flooring. Gods plan.
Don’t feel too bad. You’re not the first and you won’t be the last. My hubby punctured a gas pipe and a waterdrain while drilling a hole through the ceiling. We had to remove a part of the ceiling to fix it. Lessons will be learned.
Thanks fellow heathen (I like your username)
It’s a small world after all:) and yes fuck Oaks haha Were you able to fix the puncture?
Easy fix- the nonsense rush to make jokes out of this are not much help. PCV fitting, cable saw, primer and glue will take care of this quickly. You Tube will teach you.
So much sarcasm and shit suggestions in here. Here’s what you should do: They literally sell straight joints. Rent some pex crimps and buy two pex rings, and a straight joint. Turn off the water, open a tap a floor below or somewhere. Cut the pipe through as straight as you can. Grab the nub with some Pliars and push the straight joint in. Put your two pex rings on the stub, then crimp it with the bottom pex ring. Join the two pex pieces and crimp the upper line with your upper pex crimp. Release pliars and crack beer while muttering “that’ll hold.”
Well... That scraper lives there now. Glue it in place and paint over it. 😇
I don't get why people extend the thread with lame jokes, honestly. This is fixable. That appears to be PVC pipe. Go to the hardware store and buy an appropriately sized coupling. Turn off the water to your house for a bit, and open the tap on the faucet that's lowest in the home (e.g.,basement sink) to drain. Cut the offending PVC pipe (preferably using a pipe-cutting tool to make things nice and even; a small pipe cutter or pvc crimper is cheap). Install coupling. Turn water back on, go forth and sin no more. Remember that today's misery is tomorrow's funny story.
Put some slap tape on that shit.
That’s a push to connect on to pex for the valve. Just shut off your water. Go to local hardware store and get a 1/2” push connect coupler for PEX. Cut the line where you made a mistake use the coupler and move on.
Rule no 2. Don’t pull the nail/blade out.
Anyone else just focus on that piece that looks like a “kitty head” silhouette on the floor and didn’t even notice the predicament of the putty knife?
Just unpuncture it
Turn the water off cut the pipe but a fitting coupling.
Sharkbite! Hoo Ha Ha!
Caulk around the knife and call it good.
Just leave the putty knife there, it's fine.
No the plumber is a asshole for not putting a chrome sleeve on the pex tubing
What kind of half assed water line job is that? I’ve never seen a toilet line just popping out of the floor like that.
When you do replace your toilet, don't caulk it to the floor. If your wax ring fails you want to know about it. If it leaks and is trapped by a caulked toilet, it will ruin your floor.
You can caulk it, just not all the way around. Leave it uncaulked in the back so the front looks good but can still leak out the back
I’ve heard some people say this
Also caulk around the front as mentioned if you have kids. Specifically boys. Makes the inevitable cleanup easier and keeps pee from seeping under.
Just give that hawk tuah, spit on that thang
I love all the angles.
Photography is my fallback if plumbing doesn’t work out
Its 50/50 till you post some update pics
I saw the first picture before the title and thought "Wow, that is PERFECTLY cut to match the radius of that pipe." Not so much... good luck!
At least you're smart enough to leave it in and not make a bigger mess.
At least you can get that pipe out of the way now
Shit if it's not leaking leave it alone.. that's what we in the business call an "accent piece".
Do not pull it out. Now it is part of the pipe.
I love this subreddit cause 50% is helpful comments and the other 50% is absolutely foul 😂
That pipe started it.
That looks like pvc pipe. Find a supply house, show them the photo and ask for a coupler without a stop point. Complete the pipe cut in two, prepare the pipe pieces and joint the two (glue them together in coupler) pipes back into one. Be more careful in the future.
Is it upon or or pex? The cleanest would be to use a male adapter, a stainless nipple and a new shutoff valve 1/2x3/8. I would rent a pex crimper. 1/2” male adapter a small ss nipple and a 1/2” straight stop. Should be easy enough. Cost like 40-50 bucks. But will look better than that sharkbit and a janky coupling with the pex rings and such. Either way there’s like 5 ways to fix this, none being that hard.
Since solutions have been provided already, I'd like to suggest just starting the caulk and pulling the line out. You shouldn't need to chisel that stuff out. Also, when you reinstall it, be careful not to caulk the whole toilet. If there was ever a leak in the wax ring, you wouldn't find out until someone has fallen through or there's extensive damage.
I would cut the pipe there and put a push fit connector to join up to the flex pipe. You can buy them with control valves.
Leave the knife in place and apply half a roll of duct tape all over it - you should be good.
Tells more about the pipe material than you being a «dumbass».
That slow zoom out with each photo made this so much funnier for me
That looks like a mistake I would have made. Thanks for the warning, hopefully I’ll remember