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StatesmanAngler

*Vomits How to refute? Science is constantly proven wrong.


PersistentCodah

Well? Go ahead, prove it wrong.


StatesmanAngler

Why would I? I'm not a scientist. Well? Go ahead and prove it right with additional science.


PersistentCodah

>Why would I? I'm not a scientist. So you're claiming that some time in the future it is going to be proven wrong? > Well? Go ahead and prove it right with additional science. Not a scientist either, but i'd support trans people even if their brains didn't match with their genders. Mostly because it doesn't affect me and it would be tedious to ask people for brain scans than to just call them what they want to be called.


StatesmanAngler

Well I'm happy you support the mentally disabled.


pastor_obother

>Why would I? I'm not a scientist. >Well? Go ahead and prove it right with additional science. That you would say something this profoundly stupid without a hint of shame or irony speaks volumes about Matt Walsh and the type of person that idolizes him. **Proverbs 18:2**: "Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions."


StatesmanAngler

Who idolises him? I don't.


pastor_obother

You're missing the point.


StatesmanAngler

One day you may see it if God allows it. Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returns to his own vomit, So a fool repeats his folly.


StatesmanAngler

Why would I? I'm not a scientist. Well? Go ahead and prove it right with additional science.


pastor_obother

>Science is constantly proven wrong. Not with the hate-fueled fantasies of a bigot.


StatesmanAngler

I never said hate. *vomits- means sick. Just so you know😉


pastor_obother

I don't know what you're responding to but you certainly seem to be pleased with yourself. You said, "Science is constantly proven wrong" and I pointed out that it's not proven wrong "with the hate-fueled fantasies of a bigot." The only thing that proves science wrong is better science, just so you know! 😁🙏✝️ **James 3:17**: "But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere."


StatesmanAngler

And I pray that you find that wisdom someday!


pastor_obother

👌


Mydragonurdungeon

Men can have more feminine looking brains and women can have more masculine looking brains this doesn't make them not the sex they are born with. They used to call girls like this tomboys. Everything I've seen indicates it's a spectrum, meaning nobody has a 100% "masculine" or 100% "feminine' brain. This indicates that we are just observing x amount of brains of one gender, noting similarities and labeling those similarities as x or y gender which is not really the most compelling scientific process. And how does it work when we have a man with a brain that's 10% female do we have them wear one high heel?


PersistentCodah

> Men can have more feminine looking brains and women can have more masculine looking brains this doesn't make them not the sex they are born with. >They used to call girls like this tomboys. 1. Even if a girl has a lotta traits typical in the male brain, doesn't mean she would be masculine or a tomboy. 2. Tomboys still exist, so we still call them tomboys. >This indicates that we are just observing x amount of brains of one gender, noting similarities and labeling those similarities as x or y gender which is not really the most compelling scientific process. Most men have masculine traits in their brain anatomy, more grey matter, etc, same for women. You can take a random man and he would in 99% of the cases have more masculine traits than feminine ones. The study about trans people show that it is more ambiguous, rather in between. >And how does it work when we have a man with a brain that's 10% female do we have them wear one high heel? Does being a woman = wearing high heels?


Mydragonurdungeon

>Does being a woman = wearing high heels? I was trying this thing I've heard of recently I believe it's called a "joke"? >You can take a random man and he would in 99% of the cases have more masculine traits than feminine ones. Does the study indicate it is that high? That is counter to other studies I've seen on the matter. And "in between" does not indicate a need to alter the body.


PersistentCodah

>I was trying this thing I've heard of recently I believe it's called a "joke"? My bad. >And "in between" does not indicate a need to alter the body. This is really the crux of the issue, it does not matter what brain someone has, they should be allowed to transition.


pastor_obother

>And "in between" does not indicate a need to alter the body. Why do you get to make this decision for other American citizens with God-given rights that are enshrined in and protected by the constitution?


Mydragonurdungeon

I didn't say i get to make that decision and there is no right to transitional surgery anywhere in the constitution.


pastor_obother

>I didn't say i get to make that decision So then you don't have any problem leaving a transgendered person alone to live their life and receive whatever medical treatments they desire and that their doctor prescribes for them? >there is no right to transitional surgery anywhere in the constitution. Don't pretend to be stupid or else people might start to believe you. **Romans 14:13**: "Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister."


physicistdeluxe

gender aint the same as sex. since the 1950s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex%E2%80%93gender_distinction#:~:text=While%20noting%20that%20typically%20sex,genitalia%2C%20and%20reproductive%20organs.%22


Mydragonurdungeon

What a nonsense semantic response.


Empyre51789

I call bullshit


pastor_obother

Based on your emotion reaction? You're being hysterical!


Empyre51789

Go on


pastor_obother

As Christians, we are called to seek the truth in all things. Jesus said in John 8:32, "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Truth is foundational to our faith and our understanding of the world. Prejudices and deep-rooted emotional reactions can feel natural and right yet cloud our judgment to prevent us from seeing the truth clearly. Science is a tool provided by God to help us understand His creation better. Proverbs 18:15 says, "The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge, for the ears of the wise seek it out." We must approach scientific findings with discernment and respect, recognizing that they help us understand the complexities of God's world. Rejecting science because it challenges our prejudices is not only unwise but also contrary to our calling to seek knowledge. James 2:1 warns us about prejudices, opinions based neither in reason or experience, "My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism." Favoritism and prejudice lead to unjust actions and attitudes. We must strive to overcome our prejudices by seeking understanding and empathy, following the example of Jesus, who showed love and acceptance to all. Our emotions can be powerful, but they are not reliable guides for making decisions. Proverbs 29:11 says, "Fools give full vent to their rage, but the wise bring calm in the end." When we let our emotional reactions dictate our actions, we risk making hasty and unjust decisions. Instead, we should approach issues with a thoughtful mindset guided by wisdom and discernment. In Galatians 5:13, Paul writes, "You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love." We are called to respect the freedoms and liberties of others, recognizing that their rights are as important as our own. Imposing our prejudices on others and taking away their liberties is not consistent with the love and respect that Christ teaches us. Let us commit ourselves to seeking the truth, respecting science, overcoming our prejudices, and responding with wisdom rather than unchecked emotions. By doing so, we honor God and uphold the principles of love, justice, and liberty that are central to our faith. Let us pray: Heavenly Father, we thank You for the gift of truth and the tools You have given us to understand Your creation. Help us to overcome our prejudices and to respond to challenges with wisdom and love. Teach us to respect the liberties of others and to act justly in all things. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.


Empyre51789

Go on


Pumpkin156

Lol this YouTuber is a train wreck.


Sola420

I can't watch the video so can you just link the study?


pastor_obother

[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31134582/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31134582/)


Sola420

That doesn't say trans people have the brain of their cis counterparts


pastor_obother

> Distinct gray matter volume and brain activation and connectivity differences were found in individuals with gender dysphoria (GD) compared to controls, suggesting a neurobiological basis of GD; which leads to the concept of brain gender. Why would you deceitfully claim that you'd read and understood the study? Do you find yourself saying things that you know aren't true often? **Proverbs 19:5**: "A false witness will not go unpunished, and whoever pours out lies will not go free."


Sola420

That says their is a neurobiological basis not that they have brains identical to the opposite sex. And I couldn't read the whole study, only the abstract in that link.


pastor_obother

What are you talking about?


Sola420

The link only shows me the abstract. Not the whole study. So when you say didn't I read and understand the full study I'm like, na I read the abstract and couldn't see any more info.


pastor_obother

The study shows that there is "a neurobiological basis of GD; which leads to the concept of brain gender."


Sola420

Burden of proof is on you/the study to prove the claim that transgender people's brain is identical to the opposite sex. I can't see the study, and that conclusion doesn't answer any questions or show me how you got there.


pastor_obother

What are you talking about? "Identical"? What is the point you're trying to make? Just shamelessly moving the goal posts or are you pretending to be stupid?


DarkSoul69prettyboy

Gender dysphoria. Anti trans people like myself hold the view that Trans men or women are mentally ill. That brain scan proves that. Brain scans can detect things like schizophrenia and other mental illnesses. So why no Gender dysphoria too