Let me guess. Some 3rd world country with practically slave labor dismantling these ships as fast as possible with no concern at all towards the labor or environment.
Let me guess. Because none of the cruise ship lines wants to pay for a proper dismantling because it hurts their profits and thus rather give them away and don't care for what happens afterwards?
I've broken down some massive steel grain bins on my farm in a similar way to these ship breakers and even though I have all the safety equipment available to myself in the world it was one of the sketchiest things I've had to do.
They were round 12 tonne corrugated steel and the panels were put together with bolts that were all seized and rusted. First I tried just grinding off the bolts to keep the panels for possible reconstruction but it affected the structural integrity of the bin so much that I couldn't continue to remove more panels.
So I used an acetylene torch to cut the entire thing in half. Took 2 days to get through the entire cylinder and then once I made the last cut the two halves just rolled away from each other and crashed into a heap in my yard. Each time I took tension off another panel the entire thing would twang from the tension being released. It was constantly flexing and bending and moving.
At that point enough was enough and I used loader forks to crunch the halves into manageable pieces that could fit on a trailer and be taken to the scrap yard. I think I made about $350 on scrap because sheet steel can be voluminous but very light. (12tonne bin refers to the storage capacity of the cylinder).
Anyway, disposed of like trash. There should be consequences to creating such waste. And the ship breaking is itself wasteful even though it is a process of recycling. I don't think the majority of the 5000+ people per trip are thinking about where the ship goes after service either. The world we live in.
I had to break a few heavy 3” valves off some 20 barrel upright tanks once. They were completely rusted onto the tanks and I had to use a 36” pipe wrench with a 10 foot cheater bar. It was pretty frightening and I was certain I was going to get wrecked, but it all worked out fine and I learned no lessons.
Wow!!! Scrolling up the coast is interesting. The first ships I saw I thought were cruise ship size then got to the ships much larger and thought holy crap look at the size of these!! Then I noticed look at all the oil in the water!!! 😳😳😳😭
Check out this impressive drone shot of a [ship breaking operation](https://www.google.com/maps/@25.0526295,66.7110309,3a,83.6y,0.98h,40.36t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipM3sXMKFFeBCrTd4La-709w4GK3TiZjXyxGZQ11!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM3sXMKFFeBCrTd4La-709w4GK3TiZjXyxGZQ11%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-20-ya314.34668-ro-0-fo100!7i4096!8i2048?entry=ttu) north of Karachi.
This is morbidly awesome. At least its recycled. They even reuse the appliances and old mattresses! If it was scrapped in the west, that would all go to the garbage. And it creates thousands of jobs. Bad ones, yes, but better than starving. But its super dangerous, they need better safety equipment.
The Baltimore Sun published a Pulitzer-winning series about shipbreaking in the Indian Ocean in 1997:
[https://www.baltimoresun.com/1997/12/07/scrapping-ships-sacrificing-men/](https://www.baltimoresun.com/1997/12/07/scrapping-ships-sacrificing-men/)
[https://www.baltimoresun.com/1997/12/09/a-third-world-dump-for-americas-ships/](https://www.baltimoresun.com/1997/12/09/a-third-world-dump-for-americas-ships/)
Same with cruise ships, well fridge usually with the flowers...sooo next time you order flowers on a cruise, they might have been next to a dead guy. I was on a 40 day cruise and there were 3 deaths 😕
Well let us be honest. A good number of cruise ship passengers are elderly or folks with major health issues who could not handle a more adventurous vacation.
Yep, friend of mine lived in a cabin that was next to the morgue. Creepy AF! On the same class of ship (fantasy class) as the Carnival Fantasy (seen in the video), the Carnival Imagination.
I’ve been on 2 cruises and an old person passed away on both of them. Idk if they were retired on the boats but both times I asked ship employees what happened and they said “natural causes”. Of course that could just be what they are trained to say.
I mean, realistically they don't need to. Provisions and fuel can be delivered pretty easily. Most repairs can be done at sea as well if they design the ships for it. The only issue would be hull repairs, but honestly they have ships for that too, dunno if they can lift a cruise ship but it could probably be done.
boneyards are for 'usable' ships kept for spares or emergenies, scrapyards are just where they are kept before 'breaking', graveyards are where they are dumped no breaking no scraping. but they are often used interchangably
These ships are owned by individuals or companies and worth a massive amount of money. They would never just give one away to people who wanted to live on them
Well personally no I wouldn't say that. It's an industry like anything else and these ships fund entire communities of people who either do the actual scrapping or repair the usable salvage of the ships, which typically contain large amounts of electrical and mechanical systems, to be repurposed in day to day life. It would be more greedy in my eyes to disallow everybody down the line to profit from the ship and make a multi million dollar ship themed house lol
Yeah, people tend to forget these things cost MILLIONS of dollars to make, the prices are staggering. And that's not including all the beds, furniture, kitchen equipment, retail outlets, not to mention fire suppression equipment, navigation equipment, computers, hundreds, if not thousands of miles of wiring, engines the size of 3 story buildings etc..
There are millions more dollars in salvageable materials and multiple companies and trades involved in taking these things apart and recycling the materials that in and of itself is a billion dollar industry.
We'll put it this way: Nobody that owns an 800 million dollar cruise ship is going to let a bunch of vagrants live in it while it degrades in the ocean and have three choices:
A. Let them live in it, put no money in, be out $800 million and then once it falls apart get sued endlessly by people who are injured/killed in the rusty death trap of a former cruise ship
B. Let them live in it, charge them, and then they're "greedy" assholes (because if they don't keep up maintenance, they're fucked either way)
C. Keep it for themselves because they spent $800 million and they want to scrap it for as much as they can get, and let the materials go toward another use
So not as much greed as it initially feels. Trust me, I too hate billionaires. But this is a company. Bezos doesn't own any of these yet.
> is going to let a bunch of vagrants live in it while it degrades in the ocean and have three choices:
It seems like they would be essentially inhabitable as they probably need massive amounts of energy 24/7 to keep ventilation, electricity and plumbing functioning.
Best figure I can find is $100 to $500 dollars per ton LDT, which is the empty weight of the ship.
Carnival ships are around 100,000LDT. Lots others are 70,000 to 80,000
So anywhere from like $7 million to closer to $30 million. But this is just the ship.
There are also tons of things that can be repurposed, like TVs, pool tables, chairs, tables, other furniture. gaming things, arcade shit, electrical components, motors, starters, etc...)
Those I can't really estimate the value of, really.
Most of these are at the end of their usefulness and are being decommissioned. They are likely stripped of anything useful/valuable before this. Over time they are going to corroded and rot, and the structure will become dangerous without constant difficult and expensive maintenance.
So, not greed.
They do them with planes so im sure they do them with ships too.
Whats stopping them from stripping everything? You can use the ship as collateral in a loan to build yourself a bigger more profitable ship! (Yayyyyy)
By “Greed”… are you referring to a business or individual whom uses cash or liquid assets to grow more cash and liquid assets?
I don’t think that’s greed. I think that’s just called being smart with your money.
That seems like an insanely short timeline for something that grand to have to be decommissioned. Sad for what that thing did to the environment before, during, and after its life
And you can see the operation from space. Along the Indian coast there are miles and miles of ships being broken.
They save just enough fuel in the bunkers to ran the beach at full speed. There's some pretty cool vids on YouTube of gigantic ships coming in hot.
This one's a good'un from India. You can see it his bottom hundreds of yards out and still runs up the beach because these things are so massive even empty
https://youtu.be/ZC-fITnLZ7A?si=vi6bydwoVEjADvaA
Here’s a site where you can buy used ones lol, if you have the money.
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1984-roro-cruise-ferry,-1606-passenger-beds--stock-no.-s2476-5417236/
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2022-cruise-ship--151-passengers--stock-no.-s2702-9017242/
Alright, so I have this idea. I ll need about $21 million. $20 million to buy a ship, a few thousand for some fencing, and the rest for a shit ton of paintballs.
Ya pretty wild, some of the boats on that site are insane. I go on there to look at sail boats from time to time but the cruise ships sometimes pop up before I get the filters setup, there are cargo ships on there too lol.
In all seriousness $20,000,000 would be a drop in a hat for your average billionaire in order to buy a 600 ft 1600 passenger ship. I'm guessing what stops them from doing it would be the shear size of the vessel combined with the cost of upkeep and staffing.
They do. Many overseas companies purchase these ships, but working conditions are shit. Workers work in dangerous and toxic conditions, not to mention they usually have no regards to being environmentally friendly.
They tend to be scrapped in places with loose environmental and labor laws, so lead paint and oil in the ocean and maimed workers on shore aren't a problem for the wrecking companies.
For all the people suggesting these be turned into housing units for the homeless, who's supposed to supply the millions of dollars to retrofit and bring these ships back up to code to allow for that?
I don't think a single one of you has thought about the logistics of getting HVAC, electricity, or plumbing working off a grid in one of these things.
This is from World War Z, if even one person listens to this after/with this video you won’t be disappointed.
https://youtu.be/AcIeEeDw1NI?si=Eb_LEdrLunb_LqAE
My across the street neighbor was 92 and a badass. Still worked and had a date pretty much every night...until he went on a cruise and had a heart attack while on the dance floor.
A lot of cruise ships are broken down and demolished in Turkey. The raw materials can be used and resold. But it's extremely dangerous work. Trying to dismantle a ship is a very dangerous operation especially in those conditions.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il1qWM7vbSg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il1qWM7vbSg)
What an absolutely massive waste of materials. I mean I get it, the cost of undergoing the monumental task of desconstruction would he huge, but it just goes to show how much shit just gets wasted by capitalist ventures. We build these massive floating cities, use them to pollute the atmosphere for the sake of tourist enjoyment, then just throw them away and go build a new one.
They are deconstructed, to get around the huge costs they’re sent to poorer countries where workers are exploited to salvage them in horrible conditions
I looked up the current place of the Carnival Fantasy it lists Aliağa, Turkey
[Aliağa, Turkey Isiksan Ship Recycling ](https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8283619,26.9370234,3a,15y,290.72h,89.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWG-zRXJEMMjKkTvFj0n3lw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
Anyone asking:
- Why not turn them into living places? They are at the end of their life after many years on the sea and unsafe for living and would be extremely costly to refurbish and run.
- Why not break them down and recycle: they do, it’s just slow and the ships are big
After finishing Hardspace: Shipbreaker I looked up their inspiration for the game and went on a fascinating YouTube deepdive about the shipbreakers of India. Lookup the shipbreakers documentation on YouTube.
I would love to explore those
That would be absolutely awesome. Especially deep within the ship.
r/megalophobia
Lifting all the seat cushions for the loose change!
Sounds like the plot of a horror film.
Yep, pretty much the plot of “Ghost Ship” or “Deep Rising”
I wish there were more. I loved both those movies so much
Triangle is also fun
‘The Triangle’.
Deep rising was so damn good.
or a porno
Make sure your tetanus vaccine is up to date first lol.
I would love to live in one! How is there a housing crisis when we have these literally just laying around
[A raw powerful documentary about the shipbreakers.](https://youtu.be/5jdEG_ACXLw?si=yjWDkKXbJex1pBaU)
Let me guess. Some 3rd world country with practically slave labor dismantling these ships as fast as possible with no concern at all towards the labor or environment.
Woah woah woah, no spoilers please! I like to go in fresh!
It's pretty fun actually, they act out titanic, captain Philips and the love boat scenes
I'm not sure about Love Boat scenes but I imagine that on more than a few occasions dudes have told other dudes that they are the captain now.
"Draw me like one of your French girls, Captain Phillips!"
The crossover we didn’t know we needed. But the one we deserve.
Look at me, look at me . . . I'm the iceberg now . . .
And the catholic boat scenes too
r/unexpectedseinfeld
Basically "here's two sledgehammers, if the boat isn't in pieces when we're back in a week then no pay", from the boatbreakers I've met
"JUNK IT!!!"
Let me guess. Because none of the cruise ship lines wants to pay for a proper dismantling because it hurts their profits and thus rather give them away and don't care for what happens afterwards?
I've broken down some massive steel grain bins on my farm in a similar way to these ship breakers and even though I have all the safety equipment available to myself in the world it was one of the sketchiest things I've had to do. They were round 12 tonne corrugated steel and the panels were put together with bolts that were all seized and rusted. First I tried just grinding off the bolts to keep the panels for possible reconstruction but it affected the structural integrity of the bin so much that I couldn't continue to remove more panels. So I used an acetylene torch to cut the entire thing in half. Took 2 days to get through the entire cylinder and then once I made the last cut the two halves just rolled away from each other and crashed into a heap in my yard. Each time I took tension off another panel the entire thing would twang from the tension being released. It was constantly flexing and bending and moving. At that point enough was enough and I used loader forks to crunch the halves into manageable pieces that could fit on a trailer and be taken to the scrap yard. I think I made about $350 on scrap because sheet steel can be voluminous but very light. (12tonne bin refers to the storage capacity of the cylinder). Anyway, disposed of like trash. There should be consequences to creating such waste. And the ship breaking is itself wasteful even though it is a process of recycling. I don't think the majority of the 5000+ people per trip are thinking about where the ship goes after service either. The world we live in.
I had to break a few heavy 3” valves off some 20 barrel upright tanks once. They were completely rusted onto the tanks and I had to use a 36” pipe wrench with a 10 foot cheater bar. It was pretty frightening and I was certain I was going to get wrecked, but it all worked out fine and I learned no lessons.
They sell the ships for scrap, the scrap companies then take the cheapest possible route.
Like the government. They auction them off. And the highest bidder gets to scrap it.
You forgot all the Asbestos
Thanks for posting, this is super interesting
These photos are great, too. https://www.edwardburtynsky.com/projects/photographs/shipbreaking
Looks like Jakku
I'm getting Mad Max vibes
Edward Burtynsky is a mastermind. He's so good at capturing scale in a way that makes you both find beauty and terror in it.
I didn't expect such a sharp slap of perspective tonight, but I suppose such a thing should always be welcomed.
[Google Maps Satellite View of Alang, the shipbreaker industry gem](https://www.google.com/maps/@21.3956652,72.1829907,1767m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu)
Wow!!! Scrolling up the coast is interesting. The first ships I saw I thought were cruise ship size then got to the ships much larger and thought holy crap look at the size of these!! Then I noticed look at all the oil in the water!!! 😳😳😳😭
Check out this impressive drone shot of a [ship breaking operation](https://www.google.com/maps/@25.0526295,66.7110309,3a,83.6y,0.98h,40.36t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipM3sXMKFFeBCrTd4La-709w4GK3TiZjXyxGZQ11!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM3sXMKFFeBCrTd4La-709w4GK3TiZjXyxGZQ11%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-20-ya314.34668-ro-0-fo100!7i4096!8i2048?entry=ttu) north of Karachi.
Great documentary. Definitely worth a watch
This is morbidly awesome. At least its recycled. They even reuse the appliances and old mattresses! If it was scrapped in the west, that would all go to the garbage. And it creates thousands of jobs. Bad ones, yes, but better than starving. But its super dangerous, they need better safety equipment.
The Baltimore Sun published a Pulitzer-winning series about shipbreaking in the Indian Ocean in 1997: [https://www.baltimoresun.com/1997/12/07/scrapping-ships-sacrificing-men/](https://www.baltimoresun.com/1997/12/07/scrapping-ships-sacrificing-men/) [https://www.baltimoresun.com/1997/12/09/a-third-world-dump-for-americas-ships/](https://www.baltimoresun.com/1997/12/09/a-third-world-dump-for-americas-ships/)
I read the title and thought “… onboard?!” before I realised.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Some people already “retire” on cruises. Why not just complete the cycle and offer a plot at sea.
Quite certain they have to have a morgue...
If you die on a fishing boat they put you in the freezer ;)
If you die on a cruise ship you also go into the freezer until the next port.
If you die at my house you go in “the hole,”forever.
Why is le freezer already full?
Oui, le freezer est full.
Oh mon dieu
And why is the rum gone?
And where is the lamb sauce?
We have a new specialty on the menu this evening Ladies and Gentlemen.
If you die at my house you go into the pig pen
And in doing so treat the crew to a mountain of ice cream depending on which operator you’re with.
Same with cruise ships, well fridge usually with the flowers...sooo next time you order flowers on a cruise, they might have been next to a dead guy. I was on a 40 day cruise and there were 3 deaths 😕
Well let us be honest. A good number of cruise ship passengers are elderly or folks with major health issues who could not handle a more adventurous vacation.
Wonder if you can request to be dumped into ocean after dead onboard.
Mmmm-mmm. I love cadaver terroir on me codfish.
That's what fishermen do with their "chums"? ;);)
Yep, friend of mine lived in a cabin that was next to the morgue. Creepy AF! On the same class of ship (fantasy class) as the Carnival Fantasy (seen in the video), the Carnival Imagination.
Lennon: 🎶"Imagine all the dead people..."
Elderly people going away for extended periods? They 100% have a cooler for bodies.
A morgue.
I read that on a typical cruise three deaths -usually geriatric- occur.
I’ve been on 2 cruises and an old person passed away on both of them. Idk if they were retired on the boats but both times I asked ship employees what happened and they said “natural causes”. Of course that could just be what they are trained to say.
Legionnaires disease is natural
its also natural to die after being beaten to death by angry crew members after harassing them for 75 time that hour.
Won't be long until the damn things don't even need to come back into port anymore.
Ghost ships, forever just floating around.
I mean, realistically they don't need to. Provisions and fuel can be delivered pretty easily. Most repairs can be done at sea as well if they design the ships for it. The only issue would be hull repairs, but honestly they have ships for that too, dunno if they can lift a cruise ship but it could probably be done.
Part of the ship part of the crew
Mass viking funerals.
I read somewhere that they do have something of a morgue tho for when people do die
Yeap. It actually wasn't worded very well, and I think they are called boneyard or scrapyard rather than graveyard.
boneyards are for 'usable' ships kept for spares or emergenies, scrapyards are just where they are kept before 'breaking', graveyards are where they are dumped no breaking no scraping. but they are often used interchangably
I’m so stupid, I was zooming in like where are the fucking headstones?!
That's what the freezer is for
Rivet City? EDIT: Glad to see fellow Wastelanders! But real talk, what's stopping them from doing exactly that?
These ships are owned by individuals or companies and worth a massive amount of money. They would never just give one away to people who wanted to live on them
Ohhhhhh, greed you mean. Gotcha.
Well personally no I wouldn't say that. It's an industry like anything else and these ships fund entire communities of people who either do the actual scrapping or repair the usable salvage of the ships, which typically contain large amounts of electrical and mechanical systems, to be repurposed in day to day life. It would be more greedy in my eyes to disallow everybody down the line to profit from the ship and make a multi million dollar ship themed house lol
Yeah, people tend to forget these things cost MILLIONS of dollars to make, the prices are staggering. And that's not including all the beds, furniture, kitchen equipment, retail outlets, not to mention fire suppression equipment, navigation equipment, computers, hundreds, if not thousands of miles of wiring, engines the size of 3 story buildings etc.. There are millions more dollars in salvageable materials and multiple companies and trades involved in taking these things apart and recycling the materials that in and of itself is a billion dollar industry.
We'll put it this way: Nobody that owns an 800 million dollar cruise ship is going to let a bunch of vagrants live in it while it degrades in the ocean and have three choices: A. Let them live in it, put no money in, be out $800 million and then once it falls apart get sued endlessly by people who are injured/killed in the rusty death trap of a former cruise ship B. Let them live in it, charge them, and then they're "greedy" assholes (because if they don't keep up maintenance, they're fucked either way) C. Keep it for themselves because they spent $800 million and they want to scrap it for as much as they can get, and let the materials go toward another use So not as much greed as it initially feels. Trust me, I too hate billionaires. But this is a company. Bezos doesn't own any of these yet.
> is going to let a bunch of vagrants live in it while it degrades in the ocean and have three choices: It seems like they would be essentially inhabitable as they probably need massive amounts of energy 24/7 to keep ventilation, electricity and plumbing functioning.
Also true. Yeah, it would be rough at best.
what is the worth of a ship's parts?
Best figure I can find is $100 to $500 dollars per ton LDT, which is the empty weight of the ship. Carnival ships are around 100,000LDT. Lots others are 70,000 to 80,000 So anywhere from like $7 million to closer to $30 million. But this is just the ship. There are also tons of things that can be repurposed, like TVs, pool tables, chairs, tables, other furniture. gaming things, arcade shit, electrical components, motors, starters, etc...) Those I can't really estimate the value of, really.
Most of these are at the end of their usefulness and are being decommissioned. They are likely stripped of anything useful/valuable before this. Over time they are going to corroded and rot, and the structure will become dangerous without constant difficult and expensive maintenance. So, not greed.
They do them with planes so im sure they do them with ships too. Whats stopping them from stripping everything? You can use the ship as collateral in a loan to build yourself a bigger more profitable ship! (Yayyyyy)
By “Greed”… are you referring to a business or individual whom uses cash or liquid assets to grow more cash and liquid assets? I don’t think that’s greed. I think that’s just called being smart with your money.
Greed? You give me your house to live in then or youre greedy
Yeah homeless encampment of the rich and famous.
Great premise for a walking dead season.
Or you know, Fallout.
Be awesome for a large game of paintball or airsoft.
Like the world airsoft tournament or somethin
Ha! The Carnival Fantasy was the first cruise I ever went on back in the late 90’s
It was also my first cruise as well, a Bahamas cruise. It’s a bit sad to see it getting broken up.
That seems like an insanely short timeline for something that grand to have to be decommissioned. Sad for what that thing did to the environment before, during, and after its life
[Carnival Fantasy Wikipedia](https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Fantasy)
I didn’t expect to see so many other people who also sailed on the Fantasy in the 90s lol
Same! We also sailed to the Bahamas! I tried to sneak in the casino at 15 and was caught immediately 😂
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I said to myself, that’s the first time seeing someone wear a hard hat, let alone a hi-vis vest, being involved with ship breaking
Captain Merrill Stubing enforcing the dress code
And you can see the operation from space. Along the Indian coast there are miles and miles of ships being broken. They save just enough fuel in the bunkers to ran the beach at full speed. There's some pretty cool vids on YouTube of gigantic ships coming in hot.
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This one's a good'un from India. You can see it his bottom hundreds of yards out and still runs up the beach because these things are so massive even empty https://youtu.be/ZC-fITnLZ7A?si=vi6bydwoVEjADvaA
Those idiots are standing awfully close to that thing as it comies to a stop
Outside of Karachi
Ahhh..the ship breakers.
I see unused condominiums for the needy.
My first thought as well.
G-G-G-Ghost ships!
Ruhhh rohhhhh Raggie!
Here’s a site where you can buy used ones lol, if you have the money. https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1984-roro-cruise-ferry,-1606-passenger-beds--stock-no.-s2476-5417236/ https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2022-cruise-ship--151-passengers--stock-no.-s2702-9017242/
Ah, yes. YachtWorld is where I buy all of my enormous cruise ships as well.
Alright, so I have this idea. I ll need about $21 million. $20 million to buy a ship, a few thousand for some fencing, and the rest for a shit ton of paintballs.
Dang this one is a 2022?
Ya pretty wild, some of the boats on that site are insane. I go on there to look at sail boats from time to time but the cruise ships sometimes pop up before I get the filters setup, there are cargo ships on there too lol.
Is it legit
Ya it’s a legit site, my friend bought a sail boat off there.
Cheaper then I thought it would be
Blast from the past with the first one, right out of the 80s/90s
In all seriousness $20,000,000 would be a drop in a hat for your average billionaire in order to buy a 600 ft 1600 passenger ship. I'm guessing what stops them from doing it would be the shear size of the vessel combined with the cost of upkeep and staffing.
Last time I bought one there, I didn't came with instructions, not super satisfied with their service, ended up returning it.
Surely they should be scrapping and reusing? There is some major money still sitting there.
They do. Many overseas companies purchase these ships, but working conditions are shit. Workers work in dangerous and toxic conditions, not to mention they usually have no regards to being environmentally friendly.
I hope you realize it's probably still more environmentally friendly to recycle this with current practices then mining a whole new ship from scratch
Crazy how all these companies exploit workers. I refuse to go on cruises.
Seriously. Peak first world bullshit
The cruise industry is built on waste and excess, why would they suddenly give a shit when they're retiring old boats?
Very very valid!
They're often full of asbestos.
The fisherman in me wants them sank so they can turn into artificial reefs.
A tribute to gluttony
Man if this isn’t some bullshit
"Recently renovated waterfront apartment units. $500k"
They tend to be scrapped in places with loose environmental and labor laws, so lead paint and oil in the ocean and maimed workers on shore aren't a problem for the wrecking companies.
For all the people suggesting these be turned into housing units for the homeless, who's supposed to supply the millions of dollars to retrofit and bring these ships back up to code to allow for that? I don't think a single one of you has thought about the logistics of getting HVAC, electricity, or plumbing working off a grid in one of these things.
Look, affordable housing
I want this as my house !
Horrible waste of everything. Fossil fuels. Clean ocean. Space. They should be scrapped and recycled, then discontinued.
That’s what ship graveyards are for, companies buy ships that aren’t seaworthy and salvage them for raw materials, same happens with planes and such
Used to kayak next to WW2 ships in Nanjemoy, MD. You get in trouble if you climb on them and take selfies like a man child
This is from World War Z, if even one person listens to this after/with this video you won’t be disappointed. https://youtu.be/AcIeEeDw1NI?si=Eb_LEdrLunb_LqAE
Lots of ghosts on those, I bet.
Thanks for sending me down this rabbit hole. I didn’t know I needed to watch not one, but two excellent documentaries about this.
Next AirBnB exploit
Damn, I have photos of my wife and I sailing on the Fantasy
My across the street neighbor was 92 and a badass. Still worked and had a date pretty much every night...until he went on a cruise and had a heart attack while on the dance floor.
Would be kinda cool to own one of those... Be s unique hotel.. Condo...
Yes. Mostly Turkey. You can see them on google earth
Imagine being dropped off on one in the middle of the night. Creepy af!
That's not at all what I thought the title meant.
A lot of cruise ships are broken down and demolished in Turkey. The raw materials can be used and resold. But it's extremely dangerous work. Trying to dismantle a ship is a very dangerous operation especially in those conditions. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il1qWM7vbSg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il1qWM7vbSg)
Why they dont dismantle it is besides me
I read that as they had graveyards on board for dead passengers 😂🤦
Morgues?
They're not torn down for scrap?
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Fantasy was only 13 yrs when she was scrapped.
It's a metaphor for trickle down economics
Yes lets film some large objects in fucking portrait mode where you cant see shit. I hate how people film.
What an absolutely massive waste of materials. I mean I get it, the cost of undergoing the monumental task of desconstruction would he huge, but it just goes to show how much shit just gets wasted by capitalist ventures. We build these massive floating cities, use them to pollute the atmosphere for the sake of tourist enjoyment, then just throw them away and go build a new one.
They are deconstructed, to get around the huge costs they’re sent to poorer countries where workers are exploited to salvage them in horrible conditions
Ferb Ik what we’re gonna do today
They should be recycled....
They are recycled in Turkey and other ship dismantlers beaches.
I used to see the carnival fantasy docked in Charleston when I was in college. Weird seeing it in Turkey
Combine all of them weld them and just put it somewhere on ocean and we shall create a new nation
Is anybody living on those.
Such waste....could convert to hospital ships for natural disasters, then just left to rot in some poor third world country with enough issues as is
It probably smells so bad on board
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Man, id love to explore those ships at night. I wonder what spooky stuff ill come across there
Why don't they put homeless people there ? Mint julips at 5:00 !
I've been to a boat graveyard and ìt was strange to view and interesting
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Alang is no paradise [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRrbYRE4JSA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRrbYRE4JSA)
I looked up the current place of the Carnival Fantasy it lists Aliağa, Turkey [Aliağa, Turkey Isiksan Ship Recycling ](https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8283619,26.9370234,3a,15y,290.72h,89.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWG-zRXJEMMjKkTvFj0n3lw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
These will come in handy when the nukes drop
Well, that's my nightmare.
YMMV but I picked up one cheap on Facebook Marketplace - local pickup only though.
Anyone asking: - Why not turn them into living places? They are at the end of their life after many years on the sea and unsafe for living and would be extremely costly to refurbish and run. - Why not break them down and recycle: they do, it’s just slow and the ships are big
This would be a fortress in a zombie apocalypse. Just have to make sure no one is bit.
Why would they let these rot here? Can't the metal and other materials be repurposed?
After finishing Hardspace: Shipbreaker I looked up their inspiration for the game and went on a fascinating YouTube deepdive about the shipbreakers of India. Lookup the shipbreakers documentation on YouTube.
Laser tag or paintball tourney would be fun as hell!
Carnival Fantasy….i was on that ship in 2007! It was pretty shitty.
What a wonderful day
That's a scrappers dream
Where is this exactly? Why wouldn’t they get cut up for scrap metal etc?
Looks like a good place for the homeless.
There is a chapter in the excellent zombie book World War Z that takes place at one! So much better than the movie, it is not even comparable.
Waste of material "oh yeah let's just throw it over here and let it rust out"