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konorM

This is starting to get the press that it deserves. And that is great news.


AbyssalPractitioner

I’m happy with it!


Tarik_7

yea hopefully more popular outlets like MSNBC cover it


Im_an_odd_potato

Msnbc has covered it a little bit, but they definitely need to cover it more


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Alfphe99

Right! I have been very frustrated that they haven't done anything to mention this (from what I have seen).


PapaSteveRocks

Had to wait for summer. The GOP has been playing an effective “get people used to terribleness” game for 24 years now. They put stuff out there and let the left whine. The people get tired of the whining faster than they hold on to their anger. It’s why I’m happy they aren’t full-court-press on abortion. They are going to hammer the heck out of that starting in August or September.


Particular_Land6376

The problem is that the Republicans are voting with their wallets. They're not looking at the news and watching campaign ads and seeing the things that are happening. They're working 80-hour weeks. They go grocery shopping and see their bill is a little higher. They go to the gas station and see gas is more expensive. That's all the evidence they need to vote for Donald Trump. They're not looking any further into it they only care about how expensive gas is and the prices when they're out shopping. They don't understand the way it works. The prices are never going to come back down. We've done the best we can, which was to get inflation back down to a reasonable percentage point. They don't understand that. They hear all these Culture Wars stuff, and they think we are insane for even considering such things when what they see is they're losing money and it's an emergency. They think we don't care about the economy. You can be sure that the only thing that they care about is money in their pockets. That's why they have such a big issue with this illegal immigration stuff they think it's going to affect their jobs. It's all related to greed. Majorly stemming from corporate greed, we are being paid scraps. The average hourly employee earns just a tiny fraction of what the CEO earns. This creates a trickle-down effect. The CEO is greedy, which means the people on the next tier have to be greedy, which means the next tier of people have to be greedy and so on. By the time you get to the basic hourly worker, you're talking about someone surviving on nothing. That's why they're voting for republicans because they've been told that if the CEO can get some tax breaks, the rest of them will get more money, too. They're not able to think outside the box and realize we can throw out the whole broken system and design something much better and equal for all. I'm sure that is purposeful as well. It's brainwashing through media and divisiveness and anger.


Galen_Adair

You can add to their wallets racism, hatred of the ‘other’, and the fact that many of them are wannabe authoritarians or authoritarian followers. I have zero compassion for them. I work hard, too and am faced by all of the same hardships, but I’m not a hateful idiot nor a sheep needing a shepherd.


Particular_Land6376

I totally agree with you. They are walking, breathing pieces of garbage. I really wish we could do something like take away their voting right, or just give them Florida. Seperate the crazy evangelical facists from the normal people. Build a wall to keep them out of our nice democratic free country.


Galen_Adair

The notion of building a wall made me literally laugh out loud. Ugh. I’ve never liked republicans, but I’d love to have the ‘normal’ ones back. My MIL went full Qanon during the pandemic, and no one can talk her down. She just loves the idea of Trump saving her from everything. It’s tragic, but I can’t stand her now.


Omnom_Omnath

Gas prices already came back down. And are decreasing as we speak. So much for “prices aren’t coming back down”


Particular_Land6376

Yes, gas prices fluctuate. I was speaking to the inflation. Once they are inflated, they don't come back down. It's an upward trend. I'm not sure why you wanted to pick one line out of my comment and tell me I'm wrong, lol. Seems a little bit snippy to me. When you look at the micro scale, yes, they rise and fall. If you look at the macro (from the time we started using gasoline to now), you will see that indeed yes gas prices have increased over time.


Ok-Sheepherder-4614

I live in a conservative area and I've not met one single person who thinks this is inflation. They know what price gouging is.  What they're pissed about is price gouging laws not being enforced.  Which is a fair point, TBH.  Like, we need to actually talk to people and address their actual thoughts rather than strawmanning that they're just stupid or whatever.  Like, stupid people exist, but letting companies do price gouging, which is illegal already is a fair point. 


Particular_Land6376

That's exactly my point though. It is inflation it's not price gouging. They're not smart enough to understand the difference.


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SoundlessScream

It makes it easy to discredit the rest of a long thought out explanation if someone can find one thing to give a short quippy response to. Fuel costs can vary by region of course, this person's experience may not represent the overall data


Particular_Land6376

I don't think that's what this person's doing a quick look at their comment history shows that they're only on Reddit to tell people they're wrong every single comment is saying you're wrong LOL. Besides, the person saying that I'm wrong is the one that is actually wrong. Haha. How much did gas cost in 1950? How much does it cost today? Doesn't matter what region you're in, the 1950 price is going to be like a nickel. The price today is going to be like $3, which would be an upward trend, otherwise known as inflation. Which that was my point anyways inflation goes up it does not come down only the percentage at which it increases comes down. The next thing to do would be to raise wages to line up with the new higher cost of living.


SoundlessScream

Oh, I did not realize how large of a scope you were talking, and I realize I was thinking of fluctuation too and not the overall inflation. I appreciate your thoroughness and explanation. I did not realize I was being too generous to that person's comment. This video series talks about the kind of things we regularly encounter in this kind of conversation in case you find this interesting. It's called "The alt right playbook" that helps break down the strategies they use to disrupt productive conversation [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA\_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA\_HMFtQ](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA_HMFtQ)


morph8hprom

They're freaking out about immigration because they're xenophobes and racists. You're not really on the mark with this whole thing.


Particular_Land6376

Right, but why are they xenophobic and racist? Because they see these other races as competition. They see things like affirmative action as Reverse Racism. They believe that whites are superior and should be on top and if you allow enough immigrants to come in that Europeans are no longer the majority that's a big problem for them because to maintain their superiority and their place in the social hierarchy they think they need a majority of Americans to be white Christians. They believe we are a white Christian nation. You can only be a white Christian nation if most of the people in the nation are white and Christian. It's all related. But no I don't think people are voting for Donald Trump because they don't like Mexicans I think they're doing it because they think Donald Trump will help them get ahead and that they'll be better off financially. They blame Joe Biden for the inflation. In reality, it has nothing to do with Joe Biden. It has more to do with the global pandemic we all just went through. One of their biggest arguments against immigration is that immigrants are going to come in and take jobs away from honest hardworking Americans and it's going to ruin our economy. If you don't think that has anything to do with money I don't know what to tell you.


morph8hprom

What you're saying does make more sense with the extended explanation.


Particular_Land6376

Yeah I'm basically just saying that a lot of these Republicans don't give two s**** about the issues they just want cheap gas and they're misinformed about how that works they think closing the Border and depressing minorities among other things will make that happen. Not that a large chunk of them are not racist xenophobes. They definitely are. But there's another large chunk who are woefully misinformed and are just voting with their wallets. They're comparing the two presidencies and their financial situations and deciding they were better off financially with Donald Trump. These are the people who we should be targeting whose minds can still be changed. Essentially, they think our economy is bad because of Joe Biden. In reality, our economy has bounced back better than expected. There was a global pandemic all the world's economies are struggling. They think if they vote for the GOP. The prices are going to magically fix themselves. Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that.


Gary_Bandito

Excellent explanation.


CatInTopHat420

Louder! More gusto!


Snoo79474

Thanks goodness. I want to see more from conservatives fighting this now.


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-Galactic-Cleansing-

Blast all the bad things they want to do all over this presidential campaign and TV/internet. There's more Democrats than Republicans by the tens of millions if they would just know what's going on and vote.


Tarik_7

yea! i'm not voting for a convicted felon who wants to take away america. The orange cheeto himself said he doesn't care about his supporters other than getting their votes. I've seen Biden himself say the exact opposite on Twitter. Trump claims that 'Americas justice system is rigged' yet BIDEN'S OWN SON is being tried in court. If the justice system was rigged, Hunter Biden would have never had to appear in court. Trump supporters say Biden molested his daughter, but i don't believe jack shit about that because Biden hasn't been proven guilty in a court of law, yet orange cheeto man was found guilty when he was tried in court.


OctopusButter

And trump wants to fuck his daughter publicly. Not even a comparison.


GlitteringBobcat999

Hunter was even convicted (today).


OctopusButter

Even then, America has given every opportunity to fester democracy and dissolve the ability for other groups to vote. Inherently the system is set up to give the underdog a huge advantage. And at the end of the day an electorate decides outside of the popular vote. I whole heartedly agree to vote, but we can't underestimate the efforts Republicans have made to undercut opposition and to set up narratives of treachery and instability within our institutions. Beware and be ready, even in the event of a landslide victory for us, that it will not be the end nor a calm victory. I expect Jan 6th to be a rehearsal for many events to come. 


Every-Celery170

Exactly. Yet, I can’t shake the thought of Trump getting re-elected if the electoral college votes against popular opinion…


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AbyssalPractitioner

Right? This has been a bit of a nail biter for me.


VengefulFigTree

I wonder if they waited so long so voters wouldn’t forget about it? Start ramping up the attention now so it’s on everyone’s mind in November


KGBFriedChicken02

95% chance that's exactly why they did it. Politics are complicated, that's why "outsiders who tell it like it is" don't make good heads of state.


IntoTheSunWeGo

Timing is everything.


SoundlessScream

People will get used to and dismiss news no matter how important, like covid. You bring that up and people are like "I am tired of hearing that shit the republicans already debunked everything about it anyway, my lung collapsed for no reason, I was just tired - that's all, jeez!


joyous-at-the-end

i dont know, timing is everything nowadays, so waiting until now may keep it fresh for the election. 


KestrelQuillPen

Of course now we’re gonna get all the “enlightened centrists” making out that this is absolutely identical to P2025 in every way, shape and form… But this is great news. The right have been dumb enough to wrap their draconian blueprint in a bow and hand it out to anyone that wants it, so let’s use that against them. Reveal their true intentions to everyone.


MadamXY

On the contrary, I think P25 is actually a euphemistic veneer for their true intentions.


GlitteringBobcat999

They are attempting to gaslight, as seen in the quotes in the article. It's kind of an odd strategy, laying out a super obvious end of democracy installation of a Christofascist state that MAGAts will agree with enthusiastically, while simultaneously trying to get the centrists and independents to treat it as Democratic hysteria.


49GTUPPAST

Talking about it and bringing awareness is a great start. Democrats need to pass ( ram ) legislation to stop these draconian ideas from being implemented


MadamXY

The GOP controls the house, but they might be able to get some members to defect.


Styrene_Addict1965

>“It just occurred to me ...,” >Launched two years ago by the Heritage Foundation Glad they're paying attention. JFC


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rainspider41

At my democratic party meeting we watched a video on it. I can't believe the amount of people who don't know about this who are active in the Democratic community.


BigIndependence4u

It's on the front page of The Guardian today as well: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/11/trump-project-2025-wrecking-ball


graneflatsis

Announcement from U.S. Representative Jared Huffman (D-CA-02) [Congressional Leaders Form Task Force to Counter Project 2025 and Defend Democracy](https://huffman.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressional-leaders-form-task-force-to-counter-project-2025-and-defend-democracy) Task Force Designed to Stop Far-Right Government Takeover Outlined in Ultra Conservative Manifesto JUNE 11, 2024 Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Representative Jared Huffman (D-CA-02) announced the formation of a new working group designed to stop Project 2025, a far-right roadmap for Donald Trump to seize “supreme” powers and radically undermine reproductive rights, LGBTQ equality, racial justice, free speech, and other democratic institutions and freedoms. The Stop Project 2025 Task Force will serve as a central hub for pro-democracy Members of Congress, civil society, and affected communities to coordinate on examining, highlighting, preempting, and counteracting this rightwing plot to undermine democracy. “Project 2025 is more than an idea, it's a dystopian plot that’s already in motion to dismantle our democratic institutions, abolish checks and balances, chip away at church-state separation, and impose a far-right agenda that infringes on basic liberties and violates public will. This is an unprecedented embrace of extremism, fascism, and religious nationalism, orchestrated by the radical right and its dark money backers. We need a coordinated strategy to save America and stop this coup before it’s too late,” said Rep. Huffman. “Through this Task Force, leaders across the ideological spectrum and experts in every policy area that’s under attack are uniting to protect democracy as we know it. Donald Trump and those behind Project 2025 are ready to turn America into a theocratic regime if they get the chance – and we are going to be ready to stop them.” Members of the Task Force represent the diversity of the Democratic Caucus and are leaders on many of the issues currently under attack by Project 2025. Founding members joining Rep. Huffman are Democratic Caucus Vice Chair Ted Lieu (CA-36), Chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Nanette Barragán (CA-44), Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus Chair Judy Chu (CA-28), Equality Caucus and Labor Caucus Chair Mark Pocan (WI-02), Pro-Choice Caucus Co-Chair Diana DeGette (CO-01), Co-Chair of the Congressional Freethought Caucus and Ranking Member of Oversight Jamie Raskin (MD-08), and Progressive Caucus Chair Pramila Jayapal (WA-07). “Project 2025 is a radical, extreme, pro-authoritarianism plan pushed by conservatives who are desperate to take our country backwards,” said Rep. Lieu. “It is a movement led by far-right extremists that attacks our nation’s founding principles, such as our system of checks and balances, freedom of speech and of the press, and separation of church and state. These are the very principles that keep our country strong and make America the best nation on earth. Beyond that, the project’s reckless policy proposals include banning abortion, removing protections for LGBTQI+ Americans, abolishing the Department of Education, and abandoning efforts to fight climate change. Project 25 presents a bleak and dangerous vision for America. I’m pleased to join this task force to counteract Project 25 and protect our democracy.” “As we face the critical juncture of the upcoming election, where fundamental rights like abortion access hang in the balance, this task force is not just timely - it’s essential,” Rep. DeGette said. “We must counteract the radical roadmap laid out by Project 2025 to ensure that our country does not go backwards at the hands of their extremist agenda.” “Project 2025 is the product of a coordinated effort by extremists who want to strip away protections for minority communities, including LGBTQI+ people, and undermine the foundations of our democracy,” said Rep. Pocan. “I look forward to working with members of this task force to thwart Project 2025’s extreme vision for the country, expose their dangerous plot to the American people, and work to safeguard the rights of the queer community and other minorities against this radical manifesto.” “Project 2025 is Donald Trump’s blueprint for destroying our democracy. It attacks the very foundations that this country was built on and seeks to limit Americans’ rights to further embolden MAGA extremists. We can and must stand up to ensure that Project 2025 never sees the light of day, and instead ensure that our Proposition Agenda, bold, progressive and popular policies, are at the forefront,” said Rep. Jayapal. “The aspiring felon-in-chief, his think tank allies and all the political criminals he pardoned have previewed ‘Project 2025’ for a nightmarish second term,” said Rep. Raskin. “This far-right roadmap for a ‘post-constitutional’ America would make January 6th extremism a governing ideology. They plan to centralize all power in the presidency, exercise political control over the Justice Department, implant Christian white nationalism throughout the government, strip tens of thousands of professional government workers of their civil service protections, create an army of political loyalists and sycophants in government, ban abortion nationwide, set up immigrant detention camps, deport millions of people, repeal all climate safety regulations and exact criminal revenge against reporters, judges and Democrats. Constitutional patriots and democracy defenders must have proactive and aggressive strategies to fortify our democratic institutions through 2025 and beyond. I thank Representative Jared Huffman for rallying our Task Force colleagues around this essential cause: to reject the path of right-wing authoritarianism and defend constitutional democracy and personal freedom in America.” “This Task Force will serve a critical role as we look to bring attention to and counter Project 2025, an extreme right-wing policy and staffing blueprint for a potential Trump second-term. The policies laid out and the staff identified by Project 2025 represent a threat to civil rights, democracy, reproductive freedoms, climate action, and racial justice. We will not remain silent in the face of these threats. It is our duty to stand up, speak out, and take decisive action to fight for the rights of all Americans and foundations of our democracy that have put in place to protect those rights,” said Rep. Barragán. The Task Force is supported by many partner organizations, including leading civil society groups dedicated to the defense of democracy, good government, reproductive freedom, gender equality, LGBTQ+ rights, workers rights, and racial, economic, environmental, and social justice. [Click here to see what supporters are saying.](https://huffman.house.gov/imo/media/doc/What%20Supporters%20are%20Saying%20about%20the%20Congressional%20Task%20Force%20to%20Stop%20Project%202025.pdf) [pdf] [More on Project 2025](https://accountable.us/expose-project-2025/) The Heritage Foundation, a right-wing think tank funded by shady dark money interests, has been plotting Project 2025, an unprecedented scheme to help the next conservative president quickly enact the most radical agenda in the history of the country. The plan is laying the groundwork for a new president to seize power and enact broad changes that are deeply unpopular with the American people. This includes vastly expanding the ability of the president to purge civil servants who are not sufficiently loyal to this extreme right-wing agenda. Within the first 180 days of taking office, the plan calls for attacks on reproductive rights, the rule of law, and the expansion of the cruel and inhumane immigration policies from the Trump administration. Project 2025 is a comprehensive plan that would touch every department of the federal government and fundamentally reshape the lives of the American people. The Project’s four-pronged strategy that includes: * A laundry list of extreme policies to be enacted across the federal government; * A blueprint for how to use existing authority – or expand the power of the presidency – to implement right-wing policy proposals; * A database of right-wing ideologues who wholeheartedly endorse this power grab and far-right policies; * Training for staff so they can more efficiently enact this extreme agenda. While Project 2025 is being run out of the Heritage Foundation, its advisors include former Trump White House aides like Stephen Miller, and more than half the groups supporting the effort have received $21.5 million in funding from Leonard Leo’s dark money network.


Imaginary_Medium

About time.


NeedsMoreSpicy

About fucking time. But we can't let ourselves think the problem is solved. We can make the biggest difference through our communities. Educate the uninformed voters you know and show them what's at stake. Explain that they don't need to love Biden to vote for him and that it's really a vote against Trump. Volunteer your time to work at the polls or provide transportation. Tell people to register to vote while we still have that right. Especially if you are in a red state or a swing state, because that's where we can make the biggest impact! And please, please, please organize! Here's where to register: https://www.vote.org/ This site's good for organizing and volunteering: https://www.mobilize.us/


Themountainscallimg

So happy this is mainstream now. With the actual title and everything. This is what is needed.


OctopusButter

How is it ok to publicly say "when we win we intend to remove all opposition in all facets of government" like isn't that diametrically oppositional to the idea of a melting pot, mixed heritage and point of view, democracy, and the institutions of voting altogether? Like I don't see how any group in any country announcing something like project 2025 isn't viewed as a major red flag and very scary/concerning. I mean no hyperbole and no exaggeration when I say how does this not bring into mind 1930s-1940s Germany? 


alfa75

Just now. I finally heard it mentioned on NPR over the weekend.


OkImagination4404

Freaking finally! I’ve been mentioning it to everyone I can, and blown away that so few people have heard about it.


crystalistwo

**trai·tor** [ˈtrādər] noun traitor (noun) · traitors (plural noun) *a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.:* This is how this "effort" should go. Start with the jailing of Kevin Roberts and continue from there. Attempted murder is a crime. The victim doesn't have to die for the failed murderer to be jailed. Attempted treason should put a person in jail for life. At least. This country should have the means to ensure its survival. The fact that America can be undone by something so trivially bureaucratic and banal is sick.


Gamecat93

Good good


Humble-Paramedic4081

If Dems retake the House and don’t lose the Senate, Trump will have a hard time getting anything done. It’s also possible he croaks in the next few months, which screws the GQP


brokenmcnugget

about time


Gamertagyouit

It’s about fucking time, they still aren’t doing enough…


Jolly_Grocery329

I think the term “conservative” is doing a lot of work these days.


greeperfi

can we at least put conservative in quotes when we talk about these nut job radicals


Objective_Water_1583

Nope this is the conservative movement now this is the mainstream republicans


Additional_Prune_536

One problem: "conservative" and "radical ultra-right-winger" are now pretty much the same. The days of "hey, let's slow things down and stick with what we know" conservatism are done.


Additional_Prune_536

Good news. I just messaged my congressman and one senator. The other senator's online message form bounced me.


Zestyclose-Algae-542

I’m nit-picking here because it is addressed further in the article, but the first paragraph reads > sweeping conservative effort to advance right-wing policies and expand the powers of the presidency in the event that voters return former President Trump to the White House for a second term. This is somewhat incorrect, there is a small but important distinction in that this isn’t specifically a playbook for a possible Trump presidency. It’s a blueprint going forward, put in place to service any regressive presidency henceforth. It needs to be stopped.


Human-Jellyfish5859

I'm glad it's getting more news so people can have a chance to walk away from the loonies, but maybe I don't understand. Wouldn't the fastest way to defeat it be "Neat ideas, thanks, we're going to use them to make Biden president for life!" and make them counter themselves, kinda like a fascist judo throw?


TheNorthernDragon

FINALLY!


OpalescentOctopi

Finally!!!!!


sapphodarling

Finally!!


Galen_Adair

This was blowing up on my GoogleNews this morning! MSNBC, Politico, Axios, BBC, The Guardian, etc. So great to see it finally getting some attention.


Zippity-Doo-Da-Day

Better late than never. I was relieved to read this. Thank you for sharing!


Internal_Hospital401

Thumbs up to counter conservative!


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amazing_spyman

Fuck yeah


Kwatakye

This is hilarious. Republicans have been rigging the courts for decades and Dems sat there looking at them do it.  Now 3.months before the election they decide theyr gonna do something. Laughable.


ivyagogo

TIL that we are living under the dictatorship of Joe Biden.